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Psilocybin microdosing

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- Sun, 22 Sep 2019 01:29:30 EST 3Z7u8FUI No.898573
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Has anyone done psilocybin microdosing, or is it a meme?

I've been having severe muscle tension which is resistant to usual treatments, and I think it's likely psychological in origin.

I thought psilocybin might help with psychosomatic issues by jostling the mind-body relationship and allow new energy paths to form... is this complete bro-science or possibly a good idea? And if so, would a large dose be better or worse?
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Emma Brottingforth - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 05:16:26 EST MU5DQUTc No.898580 Reply
try microdosing then if it doesn't help you can try a large dose. you're just dithering.
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Eliza Siffingnadge - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 06:10:01 EST jlcoTZD+ No.898582 Reply
>>898580
Microdosing works for reasons completely different than just coming back 'enlightened' from a trip, and that effect usually diminishes with higher doses
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Emma Brottingforth - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 07:44:23 EST MU5DQUTc No.898585 Reply
>>898582
And yet both might help with muscle tension for different reasons
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Ian Pocklock - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 13:44:38 EST LywZUfmH No.898591 Reply
No, won't work.

Microdosing only works with LSD, and people use it not for the psychedelic effects, but for the stimulating effects of LSD. Basically, microdosing is for rich white people that don't want to snort speed, eat adderral or drink coffee.
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Emma Brottingforth - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 17:09:11 EST MU5DQUTc No.898593 Reply
>>898591
Can you explain the neurochemical reasons behind why microdosing works with LSD and not with anything else?
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Jarvis Chublingdock - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 20:40:48 EST Ev6C3cn4 No.898606 Reply
OP here. Regardless of dose, I'm interested if anyone has experiences with using psychedelics to treat physical pain.
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Graham Cebblecocke - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:50:09 EST LywZUfmH No.898625 Reply
>>898606
Psychedelics don't do shit against pain. Look up cannabis therapy or dissociatives.

>>898608
Not my problem that you're being retarded and are wasting your fucking shrooms.
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Frederick Fanfuck - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 08:22:00 EST fN+fIXKl No.898631 Reply
I've been taking small pins of my cakes over the last couple of weeks when I flush my BRF cakes, so has my gf, and I can tell you micro-dosing absolutely does have an effect and I can feel it in the body. I experience some body tension that's not quite painful but definitely uncomfortable, that I mainly use weed to help, but I liked the way I felt from equivalent of 0.2/0.3 (hard to say exact dose because the tiny pins are so much more potent than fully grown ones).

I'd give it a shot, OP, they're an incredible medicine.
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Graham Cebblecocke - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:13:11 EST LywZUfmH No.898632 Reply
>>898631
That's placebo mate.

Microdosing doesn't work with shrooms. There's no biochemical mechanic that nets you any benefit.
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Graham Cebblecocke - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:03:11 EST LywZUfmH No.898639 Reply
>>898638
You need a threshold dose for the psychoactive components to do shit.

Shrooms have no stimulating qualities like LSD and such, so there's no point to microdosing it.
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Hugh Wenkingold - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:07:58 EST MU5DQUTc No.898640 Reply
>>898639
1) No you don't
2) As per the links in my last post, people on psilocybin microdoses tested against a control on multiple occasions showed changes in their creative process.
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Jenny Cruckleway - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:31:22 EST 7OBsp/5q No.898644 Reply
>>898640
you are aware that placebos are capable of producing measurable differences in human behaviors and physiological states, right?
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Jenny Cruckleway - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:31:55 EST 7OBsp/5q No.898645 Reply
btw i think microdosing is a thing, im just playing devils advocate because that was some weak ass reasoning right there
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Jesus Christ - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:56:14 EST 1+lO5BI7 No.898646 Reply
>>898644
I'm not going to be fucked to read his studies but hopefully their control group would be ingesting some sort of placebo mushroom in order to control for that variable. In most clinical drug trials this would be the case.
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Beatrice Trotwill - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:58:00 EST W+3+E2qR No.898668 Reply
>>898573
technically real microdosing is where you take a little amount and you don't get high, i've done that, but i don't think its as enjoyable as getting a few shrooms and feeling something akin to smoking weed but experiencing psychedelic effects. also no its not bro science just have a good set and setting and a clear intention
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Lillian Clunderhall - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 05:20:49 EST MU5DQUTc No.898669 Reply
>>898644
Yes that's why they control for that when they're doing studies.
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Jarvis Dartham - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 07:56:29 EST fN+fIXKl No.898670 Reply
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>>898632

>microdosing doesn’t work with shrooms

Funny, I remember people saying that about LSD, and now tons of people do it. Microdosing shrooms isn’t as common, but people absolutely do it, and in my personal experience it’s absolutely real. I’m not going to bother citing studies or showing evidence like these other fine people have, but it shouldn’t be hard for anyone observing this conversation to see what’s happening.
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Jenny Savingworth - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:13:09 EST Yzf2kwQX No.898671 Reply
I've microdosed shrooms before, it works.
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Simon Nicklewell - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 14:27:40 EST LywZUfmH No.898673 Reply
>>898670
Microdosing LSD doesn't work either... as in it doesn't do any psychedelic.

It's just speed, adderral, ritalin, coffee, meth for rich white kids that don't mind burning expensive LSD for a lil' work advantage.

Silicon Valley is retarded.
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Martin Nummlechick - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:46:41 EST ojGDoPm6 No.898705 Reply
>>898673

More than that, I microdosed for months (700$ per bottle) took 1 drop per day in the morning (about 15 ug) and after about 2 months I started have REALLY fucky ideas.

Like one time I was in a store, some annoying lady was talking to me and I was seriously thinking about stabbing her in the neck. Then this little voice at the back of my head was like "whoa not normal dude!"
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Cedric Snodspear - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:22:09 EST NYw9n0/7 No.898719 Reply
>>898705
I mean, your mind is going to be free to wander to areas it might not have had access to before.

Your brain was likely feeling this before, but now it's surfacing.
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Charles Billingforth - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:54:39 EST IUfz5v9T No.898720 Reply
>>898705

I'm pretty sure wanting to stab annoying people in the neck is normal. I mean, from an existence standpoint.
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Angus Snodham - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:53:17 EST jlcoTZD+ No.898723 Reply
>>898705
Yeah man also do you ever notice how heat causes skin cancer because skin cancer is more likely to develop in summer
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Shitting Honeydock - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:30:24 EST c3gflUrd No.898739 Reply
>>898673
The idea is that while stimulants give a boost to energy levels and productivity, they create a bit of rigidity in the thought process that isn't idea for more creative parts of their jobs. Microdosing is thought to both provide the motivation/productivity boost, but due to it,s nature of connecting various parts of the brain that don,t typically act together, also giving a creativity boost. There was some interesting early research years back, haven't really kept up with it. I'm not really convinced it works, but it's definitely an avenue of research worth exploring

>>898705
IIRC you're not supposed to micro dose every day. There's supposed to be rest days. Don't remember the exact pattern but as a made up example it,d be likeose 2 days, rest 1 day, dose 2 days, rest 1, etc. or whatever it actually is. You definitely need rest days though, otherwise you'll go a bit loony for sure. Neuroplasticity is no joke
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Oliver Forryfield - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:14:49 EST LywZUfmH No.898754 Reply
>>898739
>The idea is that while stimulants give a boost to energy levels and productivity, they create a bit of rigidity in the thought process that isn't idea for more creative parts of their jobs.

I can imagine that's the case. Or at least the intention of LSD microdosers.

If you snort speed at your Silicon Valley job, you probably clean up the entire office from floor to ceiling but do zero coding.
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Basil Sallyham - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:47:13 EST Epnj9OHw No.898755 Reply
>>898625
Microdosing for brain injury. single most effective thing Ive done outside of using cannabis and kratom. Suck my cock like you like it you little faggot.
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Oliver Forryfield - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 23:42:47 EST LywZUfmH No.898758 Reply
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>>898755
That post was so ironic, it made me taste blood.
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Simon Shakehood - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:58:38 EST ZD+9S5vF No.898802 Reply
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I have a friend who used to be a medic in the army, and he had / has some pretty severe PTSD. He says that microdosing helps him function happily and normally in spite of it and it relieves a great deal of his anxiety / negative emotion in general.
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dr. m - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 22:05:43 EST 24/kcJ/x No.898821 Reply
>>898573
I've had mixed results in the past microdosing shrooms, but I generally followed this professor's advice I found online that said to take ~0.1-0.3g of powdered shrooms once every 3 days. If you don't grind up a decently sized amount and then accurately dose/weigh them into capsules or by using a mg scale, then one day's dose might be 2x more than another day's dose.

LSD seems to logically be a more effective candidate for microdosing IMO mostly due to it being both stimulating and having 2-3x the duration, but the dose-response curve for shrooms and LSD seems to be different. While 0.3g might be 1/10 the dose of 3g of shrooms, say 20ug of LSD seems to be slightly stronger than 1/10th the strength of 200ug, at least in my experience. So definitely go a bit lower on the LSD dose your first time microdosing. A good starting dose is arguably between ~5-10ug. Personally I wouldn't exceed 15ug or possibly 20ug for a supposed microdose. IMO 25ug LSD isn't really microdose territory anymore.

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