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- Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:10:04 EST c+ot2hXd No.898595
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How can I be certain that other people arn't seeing the same thing I am under the influence of psychedelics?

Is there a logic I am unaware of that could help?
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Albert Fobberlock - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:40:05 EST Yzf2kwQX No.898596 Reply
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Explain more what you mean or this thread will be a shitshow with the final line in the argument being "qualia: we just don't know man" I'm sure.
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Simon Ginkinforth - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:42:42 EST IUgqsTKl No.898597 Reply
>>898595
What about tripsitting somebody for a high dose of /psy/?
Either you'll see what he's seeing, or you'll be sober as a church bell.
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Albert Fobberlock - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:46:40 EST Yzf2kwQX No.898599 Reply
>>898597
Why would it be black and white, the world isn't, there will obviously be some vibrational and frequency overlap from his tripping state into your own EM field. Maybe you'll feel sober, but in your conversations with your tripping friend maybe you two will unconsciously share imagery. If I have to go grab the papers and studies on the legitimacy of psi phenomena....
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Archie Nacklewell - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:50:58 EST c+ot2hXd No.898600 Reply
>>898596
I had a massive panic attack under the influence of psychs and basically;

>see demon that controlls humanity
>this is REAL
>nothing is helping with this sensation
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Albert Fobberlock - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:58:52 EST Yzf2kwQX No.898601 Reply
>>898600
What was the demon's name? What did it look like? What was it doing? If you are under the impression that demons can exist, surely you realize that God is stronger than the demon's, and actually, the demon is God because God is everything (according to Hayzeus) so in reality, God is controlling humanity and the demon is just his puppet he is using to cause fear in you. Don't sucumb to fear, fear is the mind killer. IF you do not fear, you will defeat your enemy with a steadfast heart and calm reserve, if you do not fear that which can harm you, you will be able to tackle your obstacles with a calmness taught by yogis and monks alike. Instead, love your enemy, and wish to turn his fearfulness, which is only an extension of his own fear in his heart, into the love you share for your true comrades.
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Archie Nacklewell - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 19:06:08 EST c+ot2hXd No.898602 Reply
>>898601
Thank you for these words..
Wish I could shake your hand through screen.
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Nicholas Porrylock - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 02:08:25 EST wylgdihl No.898618 Reply
>>898595
People share experiences and visions, and even sometimes the same thought patterns very often when psychedelics are involved. Its very very common.
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Phineas Gungerlit - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 02:13:04 EST m7nL+FtX No.898619 Reply
>>898600
Hey bro, nice dubs. I'm glad you're here. This is a very real vision, and a real reality. I was on mushrooms and I saw a pentagram manifest in the corner of the room (which had become red, btw) and I heard the devil speak through it and he told me i had to kill him. He seemed so sad, like he didn't want to exist. Of course, I was spooked as hell, at the time. The first question I want to ask you is, what do you think you should do about it? Do you intend to act? Do you feel like you can make a difference?

Congratulations on being very in tune and I even want to say enlightened.

I have learned many concepts on my path and I would love to share whatever is helpful, if you are still here. In return, I hope you will share information you have gathered with me :) but you don't have to at all
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Graham Cebblecocke - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:48:53 EST LywZUfmH No.898624 Reply
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Are you all fucking retarded?
This is easy as shit.

Go trip with a mate in a dark room on a low dose of psychedelics. Do not fucking talk. Just write down your visual experiences. DO NOT FUCKING TALK.

Afterwards, compare notes.

There.

YOUR QUALIA ARE UNIQUE TO YOU BITCH! We're all ALONE imprisoned in our fleshy brain prisons and nothing ever leaves.
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Esther Sepperbet - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 08:11:01 EST Yzf2kwQX No.898629 Reply
>>898624
Yeah, maybe your brain is closed off from the world so that's what you experience, but that's not true for everyone.
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Frederick Fanfuck - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 08:16:53 EST fN+fIXKl No.898630 Reply
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>>898619

So shines a good deed in a weary world

>>898624

Depends on how close you are in my experience. When I trip with my gf we have all kinds of syncronistic shit happen and telepathic communication. But I've had complete boners of trips with mates who I've actually known for a long time but just aren't intimate with in that way.
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Graham Cebblecocke - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:16:06 EST LywZUfmH No.898633 Reply
>>898630
BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING TALKING MATE, YOU JUST DON'T REALISE IT.

Hence why I said you should do your qualia experiment on a LOW DOSE. So you absolutely know for sure that you're not talking.

Fucking psychedelics 101, when the dosing gets heavy, trust nothing. Especially your own senses.
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Esther Sepperbet - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:30:13 EST Yzf2kwQX No.898634 Reply
>>898633
Don't listen to this guy, trust the Universe fully. My grandpappy told me so right before he flew to Jupiter on his pet tortoise.
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Jenny Cruckleway - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:16:33 EST 7OBsp/5q No.898636 Reply
>>898619
The devil is king of duplicity. You think he wanted you to kill him because he was sad? You were being tempted, it was a request for you to willingly forfeit your mortal soul you dunderfuck. He can't just take it, you have to choose to relinquish possession of it, and it sounds like you're naive enough to have fucking done it.

Maybe don't trust everything you see, experience, and feel so much, yeah?
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Phineas Gungerlit - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:43:19 EST m7nL+FtX No.898650 Reply
>>898633
Psychedelics show you nothing except what is already there, but in a different form than you usually see it. Therefore, if you are utterly confused as to what is happening, it is not the LSD that cannot be trusted. It is yourself


>>898636
If you were actually the one who was there having the experience, then I'd surly believe everything you say. But you sound like a Christian, and I am a luciferian. Your point of view is very interesting, but it doesn't effect me much. If the devil who controls earth wants me to kill him, well perhaps I will not do all that, perhaps I will find a way to heal this entity instead, if I am able, but first of all, let's get 2 things straight:
My soul belongs to God, and I am not scared of the devil. How could be take my soul? He cannot take my soul, period. The only devil I believe in is the greed of man itself. And I believe to have encountered "the devil," that I must have encountered a conglomeration of this energy.

Second thing: do you think that the devil is the same as Satan and Satan the same as Lucifer? No offense and nothing but love to you, but if those are the views you hold, I do not feel like we are on the same level when we speak. I have gone beyond what I have been told to discover truths for myself. If your idea of spirituality is going to church, reading the Bible (and no other holy book) to learn, and listening to whatever a preacher tells you just because he's a preacher, then I do not feel like I would learn much from a chat with you. If I've been presumptuous or wrong in this then I'd love for you to correct me. But my friend, you should be asking me questions, instead of making statements. You don't know what really happened. You don't know how I reacted to this. And only looking back does this devil seem sad. At the time, I was just scared
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Phineas Gungerlit - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:48:36 EST m7nL+FtX No.898651 Reply
>>898636

By the way, did you know the name Lucifer means Light Bearer? It is Satan who uses duplicity, but not out of malice. The trials and tribulations presented by Satan are to help you grow, IF you can overcome them. The devil, in my belief and what I have seen, is different than both of these entities. I was raised Christian. It was important to open my mind so that I could learn, instead of parroting the same old 2000 year old beliefs that were used to enslave Europe. No offense is intended but I do realize some may be taken so I do apologize and wish you a thoroughly great day. I just like the conversation.

And again, this is what I've found to be true. Would love to hear anyone elses discoveries as always, if they sound legit
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Jesus Christ - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:34:41 EST 1+lO5BI7 No.898683 Reply
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>>898651
Reality is a canvas, it’s what you make of it

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