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- Fri, 11 Oct 2019 23:55:50 EST c+ot2hXd No.899135
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I fucking can't stand having bad trips. I mean yeah, the lessons learned while integrating can be more life changing than a good trip (from my perspective anyway) During that time while I'm integrating I find I can't smoke weed without being prone to intense thought related to my trip, then a panic attack.

It has been a year since it happened and I just wanna smoke again because it helps with my insomnia. I worry I may never get over my experience propper
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Nigel Trotstone - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:24:50 EST zDROYn6Z No.899136 Reply
>>899135
Why don't you just let go of the experience already? What exactly is holding you back? Fear of having another one? If so, then don't do psychedelics again. If that solution doesn't fix things, then there's probably more at play here than you realize or are capable of admitting. Being able to let go and move on is natural, but only possible once you address, face, and overcome whatever the issues surrounding the fear of this are. Not recovering yet means you aren't finished, so unless you plan on staying this way for a good while, try doing more than just reflecting and do some proactive deep diving and making some lifestyle and outlook changes.
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Esther Sillyridge - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:20:57 EST c+ot2hXd No.899155 Reply
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>>899136
I issue has to do with great sustained emotional abuse. It feels like my mind is split between blaming myself of blaming my abuser. When I try to understand it, it's like I panic and don't know what to do.
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Thomas Sonkinsan - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:18:05 EST Yzf2kwQX No.899158 Reply
>>899157
I vouch for Terence McKenna and Alan Watts personally, but a Tolle is fine too.
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Awe' God !!Bwteoy2D - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:37:10 EST DxcgXT/h No.899297 Reply
>>899158
McKenna just had a nice voice and Watts told interesting stories with a few caveats here and there, but neither had the serenity to soothe and calm your soul in an spiritual crises.

Meditation and sleep is best, after that you just need to be mindful of the thoughts that you choose to entertain and in some cases the environments you subject yourself to as well.
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Oliver Cedgedud - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 17:42:58 EST c+ot2hXd No.899304 Reply
>>899297
I find that Mcenna creates his own sort of 'lore' to the whole psychedelic experience but that's just it. He's just another person experiencing psychs.

I find Alan Watts more relaxing because it feels as if he's explaining and breaking down genuine human folly of mind.
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Basil Dendleman - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 04:10:17 EST FDYa+ECH No.899306 Reply
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>>899304
Terrence was a renaissance man and went into many other things outside of psychedelics. He had such a broad understanding of the world and where it was heading.

Watts is cool, but I vibe more with McKenna. Too bad 70% of McKenna's talks have horrible audio quality.
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Awe' !!Bwteoy2D - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 08:43:15 EST Z7fPppAx No.899311 Reply
>>899304
Yeah, but it's just another satsang, as I said there are nuggets to be discovered simply because of the sources he is digging up, but the man has not integrated the information into a cohesive whole, nor does he really live it or truly understand it. Most of the things he's talking about I though of myself high out of my mind on psychedelics barely reading any esoteric texts. It's food for thought, but it's not structured and Watt's spin on it honestly is a lot less charming than McKenna's. McKenna was an adventurer, an explorer, that's why I love him, Watts had more difficulty seeing just how little and lost he is, which may appear to make him more knowledgeable, but for me it just makes him more arrogant and blind.
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Awe' !!Bwteoy2D - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 08:44:41 EST Z7fPppAx No.899312 Reply
>>899311
McKenna also had an affinity to delusion, but that just goes with the territory, if you are observant eventually it teaches you to be more careful about what you believe and entertain.
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dddd - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:48:00 EST a7izNFt5 No.899317 Reply
>>899135
>>899136
Do you losers actually believe that drugs can help you with your problem? Cringe.
Drugs are to get high and get fucked.
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Awe' !!Bwteoy2D - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 16:50:32 EST Z7fPppAx No.899324 Reply
>>899317
This is how you troll 10 years ago, now it is neither funny, nor worth reading. Put in some effort kid. nb
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Esther Sovingforth - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:26:28 EST zfjBwZnr No.899457 Reply
>>899317
Says the guy that goes on a drug related chat just to call out drug users to call it cringe.
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Edward Nebbleforth - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 17:55:04 EST qEVUh06i No.899460 Reply
>>899457
That guy is the quintessential 18 y/o senior, most likely a 4shit transplant.
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David Herrytot - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 22:07:23 EST jlcoTZD+ No.899466 Reply
I have limited experience but I've managed to get through heavy salvia trips with a complete intent to 'go with it' no matter what happened, this is better practiced with non ego-death trips. What this did for me was turn the theme of trips just into waiting, I didn't who or where I was or anything, but I knew instinctively to wait. Have practiced this on other drugs but not past ego death except salvia
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Polly Pottingman - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:08:30 EST zYXbgV8g No.899469 Reply
>>899135
the sooner you accept "bad" trips the better you will be. I can not say I have had a "good" or "bad" trip. Psychedelics are not to be used like weed or mdma etc. Look up some basic coping mechanisms for panic attacks etc. i found it to be extremely useful. Personally i carry a small object (think inception top) on me during the trip to remind that im in reality.

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