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Depression by Augustus Bunnermutch - Thu, 17 May 2018 13:03:34 EST ID:OHp7Bid0 No.524132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I hate the fact that I have a tiny voice inside of me that knows what I should do to get out of my depression, out of my rut of being a miserable, unhappy failure, but I just can't bring myself to listen to it and do the things I need to do to change my situation.

It's like I'm addicted to being in this miserable state. I feel like shit and I feel guilty and ashamed about my behavior and my miserable life, but I just can't bring myself to care enough or feel enough to change it.

I know I'll hate myself for throwing away a big part of my life just because I'm miserable and won't change it.
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Molly Norryfuck - Thu, 17 May 2018 14:27:53 EST ID:Q3TQO9f4 No.524137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Me too, OP. Spending hours on google on how to motivate yourself is just another way to procrastinate
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Molly Grimhall - Thu, 17 May 2018 18:36:04 EST ID:yDKihQN5 No.524140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524132

That’s a lot of acceptance of defeat.

You can do it man. I don’t know how. Everyone is different.

Internally it’s a process. You gotta talk your way out of it, relish victories and learn from mistakes. Maybe a daily routine will help structure you out of it. Maybe some sort of perspective or lifestyle change can introduce enough endorphins to jiggle your way to balance. Perhaps it’s a case of no longer identifying as depressed, a failure etc and to embrace a more neutral mindset. If people are out there self identifying as females, fairies and unicorns - you can identify as a better man than you feel now.

Understanding truly that your mind is a playroom, and that these shitty thoughts are what you “choose” (loosely speaking) to play with is something that helped me a lot.
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Charlotte Pangerdid - Fri, 18 May 2018 06:39:12 EST ID:oCNeJQKN No.524152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i struggled with depression for years and its an uphill battle. im pretty sure im not out of the woods yet and i dont know if ill ever be, but im gonna tell you one thing op, one realization that helped me. depression likes to convince you that it is eating parts of you away, taking something that you can never gain back. that is an illusion. it merely stalls the progress. puts certain aspects under the bed and when you take them out again and brush off the dust, you continue right where you stopped. it doesnt define you. and never will. you are your own person. it also likes to convince people that it is a permanent state. but that is another illusion. brains are much more plastic, than we think. things change and that is a fact. perhaps it is hard to imagine it, but one day, things will change for you. maybe consider professional help. maybe drastically change your routine for a month, do entirely different things, even though it will be very hard. sometimes, throwing yourself into ice cold water really wakes you up and scrambles the preconceptions. but most of all. dont be too hard on yourself. dont expect to win a marathon, because in this state, you are a champion if you even manage to crawl to the starting line. try to feel proud and happy about baby steps, little achievements. i know its hard, i know it hurts like hell and i know its not fair that you have been dealt this hand, but greatest warriors have the most scars and nothing ever came from a life that was an easy one. lots of love your way.
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Kureizi-chan - Fri, 18 May 2018 08:29:11 EST ID:avtEn6L3 No.524155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey OP

Don't conflate sadness and self-esteem issues with depression

It'll work to your advantage, trust me.
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Charlotte Pangerdid - Fri, 18 May 2018 10:19:21 EST ID:oCNeJQKN No.524158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524155 that is like saying dont conflate the pain you feel with the fact that you have a fractured arm. i mean. interesting concept, but how exactly is someone with depression supposed to achieve that mindset? asking unironically, sorry if i sound a little cunty, genuinely interested
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Kureizi-chan - Fri, 18 May 2018 22:36:37 EST ID:3UPVm3Qo No.524164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524158

Depression is a mental disorder, being sad is situational.
You don't need medication for sadness, you need someone to talk to who can help you sort out your feelings.
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Nigel Nicklebanks - Sat, 19 May 2018 01:00:25 EST ID:3A/9rSkO No.524167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524164
Excess sadness disregulates tryptophan metabolism and leads to the onset of MDD (among alllllllll sorts of nasties like future Alzheimers Huntington's and parkinson's, seizure risk, multiple sclerosis risk, and prion disease. Yes, prion diseases and depression are related). You're operating on doctor's logic from ten years ago: it's not an either/or, but both. Your downplaying of symptomatology is slowly killing society. In favor of what, precisely? Your bullshit tough guy beliefs?

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10253890701754068
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-11870-3_6
https://www.psyneuen-journal.com/article/S0306-4530(16)30128-7/fulltext
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159114004048
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/cpd/2016/00000022/00000008/art00003
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028390815302008
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028390816300338
https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12974-016-0517-7
https://www.jad-journal.com/article/S0165-0327(15)30512-7/abstract
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Kureizi-chan - Sat, 19 May 2018 03:29:20 EST ID:josoikgu No.524170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524167

You're hurting, I understand where you're coming from and what it's like to live day in and day out in a state of despair and discontent but listen, you're missing my point.
Your sadness stems from personal issues that are environmental not chemical, any actual medical/chemical reaction is a byproduct of your constant focus on your emotional state, not some neurological condition of its own.
In order to relieve yourself of the pain you have to address the issue(s), such as going back to where it began and working your way through the feelings and attempting to console yourself.
I'm no doctor, I'm somebody who has lived through it.
I suffered PTSD from emotional trauma, but I was able to heal from one bullying episode by finding a person who hurt my feelings on Facebook, I asked them why they would do that to me and they couldn't even give me a real answer and they didn't even remember me.
I checked out the person's FB page and saw that they're a miserable loser who's life sucks and I realized then that the people who ganged up on me weren't attacking me on a personal level, they were just either ignorant or hurting themselves.
Because I faced my fears and confronted the source of my emotional pain I was able to heal, now I never ruminate about that particular issue.
Back then I would have accepted a depressive disorder diagnosis and I have been on medication but I always knew that there was a real way to heal myself, because depression did not truly describe what was my problem.
Idk you and you don't have to accept my message but I will tell you that I believe most of the people here are not clinically depressed they're just sad, and there is a way to heal sadness.
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Nigel Nicklebanks - Sat, 19 May 2018 05:43:29 EST ID:3A/9rSkO No.524172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524170
You're gaslighting and ignoring the message in your quest to 'help'. Depression is a societal issue, not an individual one.
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Martha Figglewell - Sat, 19 May 2018 10:30:00 EST ID:oCNeJQKN No.524180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524170 we still not entirely know with crystal precision the exact cause of depression. its a mixed bag.
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Martha Figglewell - Sat, 19 May 2018 11:06:20 EST ID:oCNeJQKN No.524183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524172 i dig your scientific approach and seeing the bigger picture, but it is still not entirely certain whether it is a societal issue. i mean, partly, sure it is, but there are exceptions to the rule. thanks for spreading scientific information about the issue though, i feel like the general public is misinformed about this shit, good work
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Cedric Cunkinbat - Sat, 19 May 2018 13:02:56 EST ID:WFZ/uYDo No.524184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>524172
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Fuck Chocklestone - Sun, 20 May 2018 00:12:19 EST ID:qMd3DUjJ No.524194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524183
>>524184
>>524180
Appeals to obscurtanism wont change the suicide rates that rise year by year. Blame chemicals in the water. Blame pollution. Blame global warming. Blame anything that isn't you.


Bury your head in the sand. It's what ostritches are good at, and humans too.
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David Bluffingstock - Sun, 20 May 2018 08:04:16 EST ID:aHEi5b5M No.524198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524170
From the sidelines this actually comforted me abit. I've been a mess for almost a decade. Recovery has been spotty and more like hitting your head to concrete wall while your doctor says "don't give up, you've gone a long way". It's a crushing feeling when only given way to get better is to return to the wall and keep hitting. As if I didn't feel pretty damn defeated already. You just showed me another way. Regardless of whether or not it works, it 's soothing. Thanks man.
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Phineas Nicklehood - Sun, 20 May 2018 17:24:13 EST ID:WFZ/uYDo No.524204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>524194
i'm gonna bury my head in your ass
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Nicholas Granddale - Mon, 21 May 2018 05:31:20 EST ID:oCNeJQKN No.524223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524194 what the fuck are you on about?
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Phyllis Brandlefuck - Mon, 21 May 2018 06:12:24 EST ID:3A/9rSkO No.524224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524204
>>524223
Mental health from a family/community perspective or societal death.
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Sidney Sabblehood - Mon, 21 May 2018 17:05:16 EST ID:/pl3Lein No.524237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>524170
>I was able to heal from one bullying episode by finding a person who hurt my feelings on Facebook, I asked them why they would do that to me and they couldn't even give me a real answer and they didn't even remember me.

What was the bullying about, if I may ask? This sounds familiar.


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