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Struggling to have interests

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- Sun, 23 Feb 2020 01:59:11 EST MLUXGZI9 No.533749
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I used to play guitar regularly. I used to actively study computers. I used to watch anime and what not. Now, I just watch the same three YouTubers, play GTA Online on and off, maybe a different game here or there, and just do whatever my gf wants to do. Kinda just feel like I exist and don't really live for myself. I know that isn't my gf's fault. She isn't really forcing me to be with her or do what she wants. I just don't have any motivation to persue my hobbies. I also don't really have any other friends. It's hard. How do I get out of this nothingness cycle?
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Under Intact - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 03:44:57 EST MLUXGZI9 No.533754 Reply
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>>533750
This guys claims seem, unresearched. ADHD is not created, but rather inherited through genetics. Yes, having endless amounts of instant gratifications is not healthy. Yes, porn addiction is also a problem. But nothing this guy says really adds up to the simple fact that social media, porn, and the internet overall leads to a generalized dopamine addiction. While there are some points he makes that companies do spend millions to make their websites or news outlets to be as mindless as possible to feed you pseudo-information. The idea that Facebook and the internet just hands you depression and ADHD is the most absurd thing. I really only keep Facebook around because my family uses it and I really only find myself on it if I lose concentration because I myself was born with ADHD and I have always struggled with concentration and focus.
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Fanny Clushsidge - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 12:13:45 EST 1SSFeKJF No.533760 Reply
>>533754
Depression can come from a bunch of causes, and there's definitely elements of social media which can trigger episodes or create psychological damage, damage self esteem and values and so on which can lead to depression or worsen/trigger existing issues.

But yeah isn't ADHD a straight up shortage of dopamine?
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Albert Micklefoot - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:18:46 EST MLUXGZI9 No.533763 Reply
>>533760
No, that's closer to depression. ADHD is a chemical change in the head that cripples the ability to focus and cripples your brains ability to process a number of things at a time leading the individual to become frustrated easily. It also causes memory issues. I think it also inhibits proper social function but that could just be aspergers as well.
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Fanny Clushsidge - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 18:38:42 EST 1SSFeKJF No.533764 Reply
>>533763
Did a bit more looking, I did a bunch of reading on it a while back out of interest but my memory was hazy. There's theories that it's partly structural. However the chemical change is in fact a shortage of dopamine. Dopamine is what regulates all that stuff people with ADHD are crap at. They don't have enough and so things like attention suffer. I will say now that I'm simplifying it a bit but if you want in depth science it's worth looking beyond /qq/.

Depression has several definitions and described at least 3 things, so it probably isn't just a straight up shortage of one chemical. However a shortage of dopamine is a frequent symptom. Depression makes you struggle with a lot of stuff and so lack of focus, memory issues, restless leg etc are also symptoms of depression.

Many illnesses, mental and physical have overlapping symptoms.
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Sidney Blimmlebury - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:30:36 EST TVjit2tT No.533765 Reply
I dunno mayne. I lost it all when I dropped out of college the second time and got a normal 9-5 job. Life just looses its luster once you start working. I crave getting home and just sitting down and not doing literally anything but hearing the silence and going to sleep after a glass of soda and that is it, I'm done for the day and sleep 14-15 hours just to not feel like walking death at work. Then when the weekend rolls around I sleep all day Saturday because I'm sore and tired as fuck and Sunday I sit around with a bit of energy and wonder wtf to do, this doesn't feel right not working. Then Sunday ends and I'm too wired to sleep and stay up til 3am and take 2-3 days to reset if I don't down some benzos but I get drug tested so that is risky business.

Honestly, I just sold all my instruments and invested the money and sold my outdoorsy shit and used that money on a better vehicle. I don't have really anything but a computer and a mattress in the floor and a 10 year old vehicle and a ton of money in the bank. Life just sorta burns out for us loners. I guess you could marry your girl and have kids. That seems to be what everyone around me did and tbf it seemed to have worked for them but I hate kids and I'm ugly and fat and don't have a personality to make up for that so, I just probably should take up drinking like everyone else in my situation. That or a quick blast to the ole noggin. I don't have any advice other than it gets far worse when you body starts aging and you can't do shit but just be exhausted from working full time.
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Samuel Punnerway - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:08:47 EST UapYWX45 No.533767 Reply
>>533763
What are you arguing about? If you are able to enumerate the behaviors in your life that aren't serving you (which you just did), then the next step is to determine whether those behaviors are worthy of change and choose to change them. If what you want to do is watch YouTube and smoke pot and jack off all day long then stop torturing yourself with longing for a life that you will never have. You are currently living the life that matches the effort you put in. If you see changeworthy behaviors in your life then you are the person who must change those behaviors, like make a choice today to not do those things. Delete the social media apps from your phone if you have to.
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Rebecca Wogglestutch - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:05:40 EST 1SSFeKJF No.533769 Reply
>>533765
So you sold the things that make you happy, but have money to not need to do that and are unhappy?

Also you don't like your job? I mean don't get me wrong, few people love their job but getting a job that you don't hate, that you like at times or a lot isn't impossible. It's hard but it's worth the effort. You can have a relationship and friends without having kids too. That's hard too but probably easier than having to nurture a fragile needy life form you never wanted to bring into the world.

You probably aren't exhausted from work but are exhausted from depression. And the way you live your life is terrible so no surprise you're depressed. You have no goals, no dreams, you just write off and refuse to try everything. Of course the depression definitely contributes to that. But that is your real problem. You're depressed and living a shitty life. Not that it's impossible not to do otherwise.
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Ebenezer Fenkintark - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 23:57:59 EST G/9ldEjE No.533773 Reply
I think it's time to find a new hobby. I took carpentry courses to spice things up a bit. Made my own computer table before finally finding the desire to explore my old hobbies again.
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Hugh Cruzzlehall - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 00:18:51 EST TVjit2tT No.533774 Reply
>>533769
Well I stopped enjoying doing music so I had 5 grand of music gear sitting and collecting dust so I offloaded it because it got the point where I played so little that I'd become angry when I did play because my skills had become rusty. It just annoyed me at best so I got rid of that shit and bought a decent used car.

Man, not to sound preachy or whatever but I've tried just about all of it. Except love. I don't like people touching me. I've tried the therapy, the drugs, the anti-psychotic cocktails, illegal drugs, hobbies, art, working, saving money, being a materialistic fuck, being a hedonistic fuck, traveling, etc. I've burnt out on life, there isn't much more to do really. What point is it if you don't enjoy any of that shit, the drugs (legal ones) don't work, and you just exist to work at a job?

>Yeah I got a miserable life, but nothing pulls me out of that misery. I've tried all the conventional wisdom, the weird shit, and the pharmacopoeia. Some people are just broken dude.
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Eugene Grandshit - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 07:29:14 EST iWXEys/U No.533775 Reply
>>533774
Yeah if you're this hell-bent on being miserable literally no life experience will convince you life is worth living. You have to decide that it is. It's a choice you make. You're expecting that you'll eventually hit on the right place or the right time or the right set of circumstances that will make you happy, whereas you have to be happy first, then you will enjoy these experiences. You've wasted your time.
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Ernest Hattingchack - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 15:18:24 EST mttQWkrO No.533776 Reply
If you want to look at it through the lens of mental illness, lack of motivation is more of a sign of anhedonia associated with depression than ADD/ADHD, attention issues are characterized more by a strong desire to complete many tasks but an inability to focus on them.

For depressive episodes where anhedonia is a marked feature or the most prominent symptom, non-SSRI antidepressants like buproprion and venlafaxine are indicated. I've taken buproprion 300mg XR for the past year and I can't tell you the night and day difference it made in my ability both to focus and find joy in my studies.

Stimulant medications will definitely help you (buproprion could even technically be considered one), but are much more likely to lead to dependence, since as opposed to ADD which is actually caused by a slower functioning of frontal cortex, your issue has more to do with mood, and the reinforcing effects of stimulants are likely to be much stronger
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Wesley Hammlechedging - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:02:17 EST mttQWkrO No.533784 Reply
>>533782
I minored in psychopharmacology in school. Also personal experience.
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Fucking Sebblebitch - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:11:56 EST jnas4L6T No.533797 Reply
>>533795

he didnt even give advice, he just explained a couple of things
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Ian Dartfuck - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:25:18 EST BzrDQeZA No.533798 Reply
>>533795
Shouldnt have said it so matter-of-factly as if it was incontrovertible or so clear cut but they didnt say anything that was wrong afaik

ADD has nothing to do with lack of interest and IS in fact caused in part by certain areas of the brain functioning slower than normal, thats why stimulants have a paradoxical effect in people who have it, and why low doses help people focus even of they don't, the part of the brain that manages attention, among a lot of other things, is underactive
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Walter Gorryson - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:43:37 EST b1N6OUmP No.533799 Reply
>>533797
>stimulant medications will definitely help you
Fuck you
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Simon Brendlegold - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 21:34:51 EST mttQWkrO No.533807 Reply
>>533799
>but are much more likely to lead to dependence

i didn't mean "help you in life" I meant "help you with this specific issue at the expense of potentially creating different issues" it's completely undeniable that stimulants help with both focus and interest, but I specifically said NOT to use them
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Jack Seddlefit - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 23:00:08 EST TVjit2tT No.533809 Reply
>>533776
>Welbutrin

Man nigga I tried that shit and it made me so fucking constipated lol. Also blurred my vision pretty badly.
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Beatrice Claydale - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 00:45:31 EST r5YRFaQC No.533811 Reply
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>>533809
Wellbutrin caused temporary psychosis in me and seizures. Never had either before or sense then. YMMV
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Ebenezer Dittingham - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 05:36:19 EST oXo9Ddud No.533814 Reply
Just set a certain amount of time for each activity, and really force yourself to stick to it, it's mostly a willpower thing.

1 hour of guitar
1 hour of doing something artistic
1 hour of listening to music
1 hour of doing something w/ your gf

If you just make the effort to put some variety in your life, your days are going to feel much more complete, instead of just 16 hours of just 2 activities. Maybe hold off on whatever drugs you use until later in the day too.

But remember, sometimes it's okay to indulge in just doing whatever, it's good for the brain.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Simon Brendlegold - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 17:12:10 EST mttQWkrO No.533819 Reply
>>533811
that's interesting, the only reason I was on it was because SSRIs throw me into mania, pretty reliably, to the point in a dark part of my life I was able to legitimately abuse sertraline
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Basil Fogglepig - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 01:25:48 EST TVjit2tT No.533832 Reply
>>533819
>Abusing zoloft

I'm actually wondering how in the fuck that is possible. That was the biggest placebo shit I've ever been on. Until I started withdrawing I never knew I was taking anything.
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Augustus Punnerworth - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 17:49:59 EST mttQWkrO No.533833 Reply
>>533832
because like I said it would make me manic, it was like ecstasy but with a much more sinister edge, eventually I had a psychotic break and ended up in hospital for almost a month
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Ebenezer Chocklelig - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 17:54:30 EST ZyAKcTrV No.533834 Reply
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>>533833
Did you do any or see any weird sexual shit while there? Any fingerblasting?? HMMM?
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Augustus Punnerworth - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 17:57:54 EST mttQWkrO No.533836 Reply
>>533834
nah it made me even more incapable of that sort of thing than I already was

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