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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

space isnt real

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- Sat, 15 Feb 2020 03:59:26 EST R96HBFUU No.57976
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Space=not real

We are in experiment run by superintelligent AI. Space is a scam, there is also lot of other scams aswell, part of experiment. Wake up and believe your instincts.


Fermi Paradox... why?

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- Thu, 22 May 2014 00:54:34 EST ILYTISHs No.53812
File: 1400734474447.png -(111524B / 108.91KB, 400x325) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Fermi Paradox... why?
Another thread made me start thinking about this. The Fermi Paradox states (thanks, Wikipedia):

>The Sun is a young star. There are billions of stars in the galaxy that are billions of years older;
>Some of these stars probably have Earth-like planets which, if the Earth is typical, may develop intelligent life;
>Presumably, some of these civilizations will develop interstellar travel, a technology Earth is investigating even now, such as that used in the proposed 100 Year Starship;
>At any practical pace of interstellar travel, the galaxy can be completely colonized in a few tens of millions of years.

If that's the case, why haven't we been colonized already, or at least seen evidence of intelligent life somewhere in our galaxy?

My take: either A) Life takes a long time to develop, and somehow, improbably, we're the first planet to develop an intelligent civilization in our galaxy, or at least one of the first. We don't see anyone else because there isn't anyone else to see... yet, or we're all still too far apart.

Or b) Given the size and composition constraints of a planet able to foster and sustain life (as far as we know, "habitable zone," big enough to have an atmosphere, small enough to still be rocky, etc.) and continue long enough for said life to begin to explore the galaxy, the home planet simply runs out of resources before meaningful headway can be made. I think this is more of a slow-death kind of thing where maybe we get to do some exploration within the solar system and maybe a bit beyond for a while, but overpopulation, war, disease, famine, and whatever else causes us to realign our priorities from space exploration to merely sustaining life on our own planet. A civilization that had the foresight to know something like that was happening could theoretically, if they had the goal of galactic expansion from the start, avoid this situation, but the problem is that NO civilization has that kind of 10,000 year plan from the get-go, and they all sputter out right before they could have pulled it off. There's not a textbook on "how to succeed as a species" that gets handed out to a life form when it develops self-awareness, so following the natural progression, they all fail. the ability to extract resources necessary for galactic colonization from anywhere off-planet becomes viable too late in the game to save the species.

tl;dr - We're all gonna die, prolly. Thoughts?
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antipyre - Wed, 01 Jan 2020 06:03:36 EST YepogjB7 No.57951 Reply
>>57448
did you ever read that book "the butlerian jihad" from the son of Frank Herbert
author of "Dune"
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Allan Sandage - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 00:59:44 EST mh8YYYW3 No.57961 Reply
>>57938
Actual OP here.

I've posted in this thread a few times over the years (LOL?), and I pretty much agree with you. Life is probably kinda rare, and intelligent life is exceedingly rare. We really have no idea what other, exotic chemistry might sustain life. I like the idea that we "shouldn't assume we're special or unique," as an approach upheld by most astronomers, but we do keep finding star systems that are vastly different from our own. If our solar system is an oddball, then it stands to reason that life, as we know it, is also and oddball scenario. We might be the one-in-a-gazillion chance where life arises, and while it might be "common" in terms of the vastness of the universe, the odds of us contacting another intelligent species are probably pretty slim.

Like, what if the next closest intelligent species in the Andromeda Galaxy, or even worse, 2 galaxies away? We'll basically never know without some kind of inter-dimensional travel, and we don't know how to do that.

Astrology

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- Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:44:01 EST PkLJZC5m No.57849
File: 1573494241792.jpg -(186877B / 182.50KB, 1024x1024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Astrology
SO i got this new guy at work who is pretty obsessed with astrology, normally I wouldn't really care but he keeps projecting his assumptions on me because of my birthdate which I find pretty annoying I mean, he can believe whatever he want but leave me out of it

Now telling people they're wrong is generally going to create a shit atmosphere and i think quite a few of my coworkers would like astrology to be a real thing, so I want to set some traps. What are some tricky, good questions i can ask him that show he is just connecting dots because he likes to see them connected?

>TL;DR What are some questions to ask astrologists to show they're full of shit!?
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Omochao - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 17:21:48 EST rlRhIq+W No.57957 Reply
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>>57865
>>70414227
What'll you have for the next few weeks or months stranger?
>πŸŒˆπŸŒ™πŸ•›β³πŸ²πŸŽΆπŸ“£
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Allan Sandage - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 00:42:26 EST mh8YYYW3 No.57960 Reply
>>57849
Tell him you lied and your birthday is really a different date. It'll throw him off enough to at least leave you alone, or he'll start making silly hindsight-bias-assumptions about your "new" birthday. At which point, you can tell him you've been fucking with him the whole time and he's full of shit.

NASA released images of UFO found with Hubble Scope

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- Fri, 27 Dec 2019 23:57:38 EST yPajA9jf No.57944
File: 1577509058104.jpg -(308361B / 301.13KB, 1080x2280) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. NASA released images of UFO found with Hubble Scope
Hoooold up, are aliens real yall?
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Daniel Kirkwood - Tue, 31 Dec 2019 19:32:15 EST VZ0dB+Ls No.57947 Reply
>>57944
Yes. DOD had a UFO research department until 2015 or 2012 I think. Collaborations occurred between DOD and bigelow aerospace (skinwalker ranch). Nimitz recorded footage of ufo craft flying in the night. All files on DOD UFO research have been declassified in 2017 and NYTimes covered such in early 2017.

high redshift mirrors

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- Wed, 06 Mar 2019 13:31:08 EST wIGiff+l No.57553
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lets say you were able to place a mirror in space out at such a distance that the mirror experience cosmological redshift from your perspective. If you were to shoot a laser beam of some wavelength at the mirror then the light reflecting off the mirror would be a longer wavelength than the originating laser because of the relativistic doppler effect.
what wavelength would the light be when it got back to you after bouncing off the mirror? would it be the original wavelength or would it be redshifted?
if its not the original wavelength then how was energy conserved?
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James Christy - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:57:14 EST JvOVK4Sl No.57819 Reply
>>57817
Jesus Christ did you attempt to complete Operation Glowing Dove on them?
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Jist - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:30:24 EST HeCUPa43 No.57820 Reply
>>57553
Sounds like you fell into some distinction between quatem particals, and what happens with what lies in the scope of a laser pointer .
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Gerard Kuiper - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:23:21 EST KagVVlp+ No.57872 Reply
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>>57817
>i'm permanently banned from all google platforms
I'm just DYING to hear this story.

THE MOON IS OURS BITCH!

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:56:32 EST aTAck/kf No.57760
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WE FUCKING DID IT GUYS HOLY SHIT!!!!
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John Riccioli - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:50:26 EST cC5WUU5t No.57812 Reply
>>57786
Of course you know this means war.
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Karl von Weizsacker - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:49:03 EST 06SA2lBv No.57868 Reply
>>57782

That's intolerant as fuck man, not cool. That flag can be any color it wants

Electric ripple

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- Sun, 17 Nov 2019 00:37:13 EST aGo2dCNY No.57863
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What if anisotropic distribution of matter and the resulting uneven expansion of space creates distortions of our apparent view of the heavens and these distortions make it fundamentally impossible or nearly so to see anything clearly outside the local region.
In that case all of the thoroughly explained and well reasoned cosmologies handed down from the ivory tower of academia would turn out to have been as false and completely made up as Ptolemaic epicycle cosmology. I bet that sure would be embarrassing for all the CDM big bang fans who've been happily assuming that they understand the very origins of our universe down to the first instances to admit that the data they've been looking at is all distorted and that their cosmology is as made up and fake as ones proposed by historic scientific minds of the past.
Gravitational lensing is just an extreme case of the types of distortions that make the illusory nature of what the telescope sees increase with redshift and modern cosmology is based on so many absurd assumptions and oversimplifications that its impossible to take the stuff at face value and very easy to pick it apart.
I'm sticking with my bible until you nerds can develop some cosmology which actually dovetails with reality
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Does astrology fit here

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- Thu, 03 Oct 2019 18:14:25 EST ZRVHlar5 No.57809
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I'm looking everywhere

HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING

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- Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:36:25 EST VdooM9pB No.53894
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What do you think would happen if highly intelligent, stronger, more powerful aliens made contact with earth right now and told us the meaning of life.
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Imasra - Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:37:45 EST HeCUPa43 No.57840 Reply
>>53894
If I was an input for this, I would put arrogance at the absolute top for spieces domanice. It's all a fucking after everything.
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Mike Brown - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 04:02:19 EST vLrZZdiN No.57843 Reply
>>53894
life is such a general word so that is kind of a silly question. given that the technical definition of life is just a bunch of self replicating amino acids it is grammatically stupidly worded hence why the popular book hitchhiker's guide likes to joke about that question.

Asteroid mining and post scarcity

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- Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:58:44 EST EZOyjhDZ No.57841
File: 1572897524783.jpg -(20518B / 20.04KB, 490x345) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Asteroid mining and post scarcity
Recently there have been increasing mainstream attention regarding space resource utilization.
Like for instance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGosZWBTF7A [Bloomberg]

It mainly focuses on "monetary" benefits and completely misses the point about the broader implications.
The most ignorant is how "in-situ resource utilisation" would work.

My main point is that the level of automation required to fully utilize 16 psyche for instance... (If you don't know about it look it up, in our terms it would make us a Kardashev 1+ civilization all on it's own.)
(Moving things like 16 psyche closer to earth would involve several magnitudes above our current energy budget)
They still seem to think that the civilization that would evolve based on self-replicating machines and space habitats would resemble anything close to western capitalism.

My main point is basically that 16psyche is going to be a choke point in regards to our path towards a space faring civilization. It has more accessible resources than anything else in the solar system and if history is any guide this will mean it will become independent of earth pretty quick.
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Mike Brown - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:41:38 EST vLrZZdiN No.57842 Reply
>>57841
we already live in a post scarcity society by 18th century standards. redistribute your computer to a third world as to not subject me to your dictatorship dipshittery masquerading as something more intellectually responsible.
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Caroline Herschel - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:34:56 EST EZOyjhDZ No.57844 Reply
>>57842
>we already live in a post scarcity society by 18th century standards.
Good riddance.
>redistribute your computer to a third world as to not subject me to your dictatorship dipshittery masquerading as something more intellectually responsible.
Maybe I don't want to have to rent my future computing resources from Elon or Jeff. I'd rather have control over my own Von Neumann Probe Swarm, thanks.

I'm not advocating any kind of economic system here.
Just want to point out that it's not even viable to move resources acquired from early asteroid mining to Earth's orbit. And it's pretty delusional to think the economic activity generated will "trickle down" to earth.
All I'm saying it will be like The Expanse, but in reverse... The "Beltas" will be calling the shots.
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Giovanni Cassini - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:36:11 EST 7HuTlPCo No.57862 Reply
>>57844
>The "Beltas" will be calling the shots.
Nah, most of our society is built on the people who produce the value getting little of it. Until they can be independent on their rock they will be exploited. If we can do that then stuff like being accessible won't matter to the same degree and they will not have a monopoly on anything. They'll just be a backwater.

Same as mars really. If earth dies its entire existence will be dragging resources to it. It won't be a perfectly closed system so even if it doesn't grow it will need constant replenishment. Unless we get the magnetic field going and crash a few lumps of ice which is yet another "we can bypass this shit" situation.

Does anybody else agree with me when I say that a black hole is basically a glitch in reality?

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- Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:01:11 EST Kc+YGl6y No.54910
File: 1421607671240.jpg -(104918B / 102.46KB, 700x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anybody else agree with me when I say that a black hole is basically a glitch in reality?
It just shouldn't happen.
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Irwin Shapiro - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:18:59 EST 415JX8nG No.55566 Reply
>>55564
Hey I'm not enthusiastic dick face.
I wouldn't use the phrase "glitch in reality", I don't know why I said that, doesn't seem like it lines up with my line of usual thought or philosophy in general. I was probably drunk
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George Gamow - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:58:26 EST sFc2Gs9d No.55569 Reply
>>55564

I disagree, what he said makes perfect sense. Black holes are impressive by their sheer magnitude, but are simple objects and--given what we know about mass and gravity--are pretty much inevitable. Flowers, on the other hand, are fucking complicated on many levels and its a wonder such a thing ever came to be at all.

Still though, I can wrap my brain around a flower, but I'm pretty sure trying to truly comprehend the sheer pan-celestial magnitudes of mass, gravity and density that is a black hole would be a veritable Lovecraftian experience.
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Dinato - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 22:24:24 EST HeCUPa43 No.57830 Reply
Black holes or worm holes is what I refer to. Is a portal to a unconfined type of reality. Would you go all the way for it?
Watch movies about it man, space dandy is pretty real about it.


WTF is up with barred spirals?

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- Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:16:58 EST aGo2dCNY No.57596
File: 1553393818527.jpg -(6845831B / 6.53MB, 6637x3787) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. WTF is up with barred spirals?
Why did all of the material in those two spiral arms lose all of their angular momentum and head for the core at the same time? I bet those two hard right turns those arms tax are separated by 15-20kpc. Since so many galaxies do this, whatever is happening to this one must be pretty common.
Also check out all those galaxies buried in the background, there must be some kinda awesome galaxy cluster back there.
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Joseph von Fraunhofer - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:34:48 EST Yd0hzS4N No.57802 Reply
>>57794
the magnetic field created by any active galactic nucleus should be radially symmetric with respect to the axis of rotation so if barred spirals are caused by active galactic nuclei which are off axis from the host galaxy's rotation by 90ΒΊ or so and the observed probability of off axis galactic nuclei should predict the observed frequency of spirals with bars.
i don't know if it does or not
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 23:11:48 EST 7TrGAQFu No.57803 Reply
>>57802
I've been drinking, so I'm not going to check if your theory is accurate or not... but I will point out that you forgot one thing. You forgot to include the relation of the galaxy to other fields such as those manifesting from other galaxies. (though honestly, I suspect that magnetic fields aren't generated from a source directly, if this makes sense. Think of flowing water. A whirlpool in a stream is not generated by the rocks below it, it's simply directed into this form by them. If this does not make sense, I will respond eventually while not drinking.)

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