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Asteroid mining and post scarcity

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- Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:58:44 EST EZOyjhDZ No.57841
File: 1572897524783.jpg -(20518B / 20.04KB, 490x345) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Asteroid mining and post scarcity
Recently there have been increasing mainstream attention regarding space resource utilization.
Like for instance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGosZWBTF7A [Bloomberg]

It mainly focuses on "monetary" benefits and completely misses the point about the broader implications.
The most ignorant is how "in-situ resource utilisation" would work.

My main point is that the level of automation required to fully utilize 16 psyche for instance... (If you don't know about it look it up, in our terms it would make us a Kardashev 1+ civilization all on it's own.)
(Moving things like 16 psyche closer to earth would involve several magnitudes above our current energy budget)
They still seem to think that the civilization that would evolve based on self-replicating machines and space habitats would resemble anything close to western capitalism.

My main point is basically that 16psyche is going to be a choke point in regards to our path towards a space faring civilization. It has more accessible resources than anything else in the solar system and if history is any guide this will mean it will become independent of earth pretty quick.
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Mike Brown - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 21:41:38 EST vLrZZdiN No.57842 Reply
>>57841
we already live in a post scarcity society by 18th century standards. redistribute your computer to a third world as to not subject me to your dictatorship dipshittery masquerading as something more intellectually responsible.
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Caroline Herschel - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:34:56 EST EZOyjhDZ No.57844 Reply
>>57842
>we already live in a post scarcity society by 18th century standards.
Good riddance.
>redistribute your computer to a third world as to not subject me to your dictatorship dipshittery masquerading as something more intellectually responsible.
Maybe I don't want to have to rent my future computing resources from Elon or Jeff. I'd rather have control over my own Von Neumann Probe Swarm, thanks.

I'm not advocating any kind of economic system here.
Just want to point out that it's not even viable to move resources acquired from early asteroid mining to Earth's orbit. And it's pretty delusional to think the economic activity generated will "trickle down" to earth.
All I'm saying it will be like The Expanse, but in reverse... The "Beltas" will be calling the shots.
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Giovanni Cassini - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:36:11 EST 7HuTlPCo No.57862 Reply
>>57844
>The "Beltas" will be calling the shots.
Nah, most of our society is built on the people who produce the value getting little of it. Until they can be independent on their rock they will be exploited. If we can do that then stuff like being accessible won't matter to the same degree and they will not have a monopoly on anything. They'll just be a backwater.

Same as mars really. If earth dies its entire existence will be dragging resources to it. It won't be a perfectly closed system so even if it doesn't grow it will need constant replenishment. Unless we get the magnetic field going and crash a few lumps of ice which is yet another "we can bypass this shit" situation.

Does anybody else agree with me when I say that a black hole is basically a glitch in reality?

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- Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:01:11 EST Kc+YGl6y No.54910
File: 1421607671240.jpg -(104918B / 102.46KB, 700x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anybody else agree with me when I say that a black hole is basically a glitch in reality?
It just shouldn't happen.
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Irwin Shapiro - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:18:59 EST 415JX8nG No.55566 Reply
>>55564
Hey I'm not enthusiastic dick face.
I wouldn't use the phrase "glitch in reality", I don't know why I said that, doesn't seem like it lines up with my line of usual thought or philosophy in general. I was probably drunk
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George Gamow - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:58:26 EST sFc2Gs9d No.55569 Reply
>>55564

I disagree, what he said makes perfect sense. Black holes are impressive by their sheer magnitude, but are simple objects and--given what we know about mass and gravity--are pretty much inevitable. Flowers, on the other hand, are fucking complicated on many levels and its a wonder such a thing ever came to be at all.

Still though, I can wrap my brain around a flower, but I'm pretty sure trying to truly comprehend the sheer pan-celestial magnitudes of mass, gravity and density that is a black hole would be a veritable Lovecraftian experience.
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Dinato - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 22:24:24 EST HeCUPa43 No.57830 Reply
Black holes or worm holes is what I refer to. Is a portal to a unconfined type of reality. Would you go all the way for it?
Watch movies about it man, space dandy is pretty real about it.


WTF is up with barred spirals?

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- Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:16:58 EST aGo2dCNY No.57596
File: 1553393818527.jpg -(6845831B / 6.53MB, 6637x3787) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. WTF is up with barred spirals?
Why did all of the material in those two spiral arms lose all of their angular momentum and head for the core at the same time? I bet those two hard right turns those arms tax are separated by 15-20kpc. Since so many galaxies do this, whatever is happening to this one must be pretty common.
Also check out all those galaxies buried in the background, there must be some kinda awesome galaxy cluster back there.
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Joseph von Fraunhofer - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:34:48 EST Yd0hzS4N No.57802 Reply
>>57794
the magnetic field created by any active galactic nucleus should be radially symmetric with respect to the axis of rotation so if barred spirals are caused by active galactic nuclei which are off axis from the host galaxy's rotation by 90ΒΊ or so and the observed probability of off axis galactic nuclei should predict the observed frequency of spirals with bars.
i don't know if it does or not
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 23:11:48 EST 7TrGAQFu No.57803 Reply
>>57802
I've been drinking, so I'm not going to check if your theory is accurate or not... but I will point out that you forgot one thing. You forgot to include the relation of the galaxy to other fields such as those manifesting from other galaxies. (though honestly, I suspect that magnetic fields aren't generated from a source directly, if this makes sense. Think of flowing water. A whirlpool in a stream is not generated by the rocks below it, it's simply directed into this form by them. If this does not make sense, I will respond eventually while not drinking.)

NSFW PICS ITT

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- Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:14:59 EST aGo2dCNY No.57605
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galaxies fucking
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zOMG it spins!

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- Thu, 21 Mar 2019 02:08:39 EST aGo2dCNY No.57582
File: 1553148519011.png -(16747B / 16.35KB, 710x420) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. zOMG it spins!
lets say you were somewhat nearby a rapidly rotating neutron star such that the star's diameter was a significant portion of the distance from the star. Would the star's effective center of gravity be offset towards the approaching limb because of the relative velocities and redshifts of the approaching side versus the retreating one?
If its real, how significant would the effect be? Does the effect imply that the gravity well isn't symmetrical?
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William Hartmann - Tue, 14 May 2019 17:38:07 EST 457vC2+I No.57702 Reply
>>57701
Mhm. That's why I said
>>We model gravity based around a sphere with a radius...
>> ...but this is a simplification
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Urbain Le Verrier - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 01:39:29 EST aGo2dCNY No.57781 Reply
With respect to the receding limb, as the mass is accelerated away from the observer at relativistic speeds, the mass exerts less gravitational influence because of the redshift. The receding limb appears to effectively lose mass as well as getting dimmer and cooler. Could that effective loss of gravitational pull due to the acceleration be considered "anti-gravity" and if so, what potential uses could be made of a propellant based propulsion system in which the propellant reaches relativistic speeds?
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Perseid meteor shower!

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- Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:29:34 EST evrPe8Vs No.51233
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AWWWW YEAAAH.
Anyone else gonna observe this beautiful event?


Incase you haven't heard from AUG 12th to the 13th between 10:30PM and 4:30 AM, The sky's gonna light up with massive fireballs brighter than Jupiter.
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Wilhelm Beer - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:28:30 EST N7xCPuZj No.57491 Reply
Leonid shower's s'pposed to be coming up this weekend, for those who won't have a big honkin' snowstorm gumming up the skies, at least.
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Walter Adams - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:09:46 EST 6xb1mqvl No.57776 Reply
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Anyone going to observe this year's Perseid meteor shower?

Wishing for a cloudless sky.

Earth is Level.

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- Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:29:01 EST hcfmzt0R No.57767
File: 1564273741505.png -(803401B / 784.57KB, 960x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Earth is Level.
Earth is demonstrably level.

God and Jesus are bullshit.

Be woke.

https://www.circlejerk.com/r/Earth_Is_Level
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Earth Is Level - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:33:26 EST hcfmzt0R No.57768 Reply
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The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level regardless of scale.
Water takes the shape of the container, and is always level atop the surface.
Pooled water is always level, and must be contained.

Cup of water is level, bathtub is level, swimming pool is level, lakes are level, all oceans on Earth are demonstrably level as shown to us by laser and many other means in the science world.

If all oceans on Earth are level, how can Earth be a spinning ball? It can't!
And this is why the ball Earth ONLY exists in cartoons and math equations - it does not exist in real life. Welcome to the reality of the globe.


People claim to see a curve from the height of a plane at 35,000ft which is nonsense. That's 5.5 miles high. Nobody has ever measured a curve.
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Earth Is Level - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:34:31 EST hcfmzt0R No.57769 Reply
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Earth is level.

50th anniversary of this mad cunt's dream coming true

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 11:16:36 EST /X2JLtlU No.57758
File: 1563635796555.jpg -(4889460B / 4.66MB, 2415x3000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 50th anniversary of this mad cunt's dream coming true
DICKS EVERYWHERE

Building Blocks of Life Found on Mars

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- Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:12:35 EST eygzYfFg No.57290
File: 1528413155979.jpg -(198462B / 193.81KB, 945x945) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Building Blocks of Life Found on Mars
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/06/mars-organic-compounds-methane-curiosity-space-science/

>Two landmark discoveries reveal organic carbon on the red planet, shaping the future hunt for life on Mars.

I'm scared guys. This could mean life is common in the universe, which means the Great Filter is ahead of us instead of behind us.

😰😰😰😰😰

Then again, maybe this can show us the Great Filter is already behind us but when it comes to cosmic horror, I'm a half-empty kinda guy.
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Vera Rubiin - Fri, 07 Jun 2019 15:04:05 EST izGRJ+VN No.57738 Reply
>>57731
Even in the case there will be evidence in the geological records.
A layer unusually high concentration of iron compounds and scattered refined metals everywhere. Evidence of mining on the layers below.
I can't come up with a complete list but I've seen somebody do it, perhaps I'll find that again.
In the case of "turn the entire crust into a molten fireball" of course life itself would vanish and the atmosphere would be heated so much that it would be blown away into space.
This would paradoxically make it easier to preserve evidence of our civilization since stuff can't oxidize.

This doesn't mean a large enough chuck couln't do it though. With enough kinetic energy the upper crust could evaporate too and be blown away into space.
It would have to be an extra-solar object though since we are pretty much certain nothing of that magnitude is around as far as we can see.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 15:24:42 EST 9YXtXzja No.57744 Reply
>>57290
We've pretty thoroughly contaminated it already though. Considering that even the exterior of the space stations have microbial life on them, and how impossible it is to irradicate every spore and microbe, the red planet is likely already colonised with lichens, puffballs, and extremophile bacteria. It's going to be a long hard journey to determine if the life we find on mars had existed before our modern arrival, unless we manage to find more complex life forms than bacteria and fungi.
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Fred Whipple - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 20:39:38 EST eygzYfFg No.57754 Reply
>>57728
Throw that meteor hard enough, and there won't be any fossils left. Everything will turn into molten rock.

Evidence of Life on Mars?

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- Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:04:17 EST sojeXM9D No.57606
File: 1553511857280.jpg -(163544B / 159.71KB, 800x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Evidence of Life on Mars?
http://journalofastrobiology.com/Mars5.html
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Bernhard Schmidt - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:45:41 EST HUBAqrsF No.57749 Reply
>>57748

you are stupid. your post about the pyramids being electric power plants was full of evolution denial. i thought you were banned anyway
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Harlow Shapley - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 10:21:51 EST 7rYnqTgm No.57750 Reply
>>57748
Are you the original A wizard?
Because you're still dumb as fuck
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Fred Whipple - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 20:37:44 EST eygzYfFg No.57753 Reply
>>57749
Wow, a fucking racist neonazi the future immigrant is also an evolution denialist. Who would have thought... It's almost like retardation comes in pairs.


1999 kw4 nudes

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- Sun, 26 May 2019 09:40:23 EST vMi3XH8F No.57730
File: 1558878023890.gif -(26482B / 25.86KB, 405x366) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 1999 kw4 nudes
You guys got any close up pics of 1999 kw4? It just sailed by last night over the US. Or was this whole thing just a meme to fuel Doomsday threads on every Chan?

dark matter & string theory

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- Sun, 24 Mar 2019 17:45:09 EST DGSw25sg No.57599
File: 1553463909536.png -(1111416B / 1.06MB, 891x882) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. dark matter & string theory
lets talk about it.
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Edward Barnard - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:38:46 EST f/Tl+D5o No.57742 Reply
After meeting our god I asked about women and he sent me traveling outside to where their creational black crystal resides. I got to know them, then after some time, both collectives let me as a male, and a female from their's, to travel to the central black hole where people reside to learn and get to know everyone. The behavior from the opposite female was so vibrant I couldn't let her near me until her mind was less flippant, so I created a string between us she had to travel up before meeting me. It almost choked her assertive behavior until she understood where I was and we met up the right way.
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Johannes Kepler - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 13:11:48 EST NrYIi9kp No.57743 Reply
>>57742
I did this once but I got a urinary tract infection

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