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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 10)
HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Caroline Herschel - Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:36:25 EST ID:VdooM9pB No.53894
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What do you think would happen if highly intelligent, stronger, more powerful aliens made contact with earth right now and told us the meaning of life.
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Friedrich Bessel - Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:40:52 EST ID:/Tm3UOch No.55381 Ignore Report Reply
>>53894
We'd reject that, obviously.
Our meanings are superior anyway.
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Russel Hulse - Thu, 04 Jun 2015 21:57:03 EST ID:415JX8nG No.55382 Ignore Report Reply
The meaning of life is subjective.
The meaning of our lives to aliens could be rather demeaning to our sense of ourselves and I doubt aliens are going to tell us we are to rule the universe or whatever.
I think life has a general role to play in the future of the universe, as it is a natural byproduct of the Big Bang, but I don't think that would even manifest itself through mere biologic organisms. I think a mastery of quantum technologies will have a dramatic effect on the biology/physiology/psychology of humans.
We're still apes, smart apes for sure, I might even argue that we're great apes, but still just apes
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Joseph Taylor Jr. - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 22:21:11 EST ID:9Jg5Dok5 No.55389 Ignore Report Reply
>>55382
Who knows? Lulu Amelu have been created by gods from apes to be their slaves, but they rebelled and evolved

and we may evolve further. or embrace our half-ape nature and be forever as we are now. that is meaning, too.


BOINC Report View Thread Reply
INTERPOL !3mB4iDBpWw - Sun, 24 May 2015 00:38:44 EST ID:kiOQuM9F No.55362
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Hey all

I just got a new video card and decided to fire up the old BOINC to see how it stacks up to the old ones I had. At the zenith of my BOINC days I had x2 5970's doing 4 workunits, one for each GPU, every 1:30-2:00 minutes each. This 7990 that I just got is doing 2 workunits in 12 seconds for the easy ones and 30 seconds for the longer ones, but they have them mixed in with each other. So in the time it took to draw a 3d map of the cosmos in one unit for my old setup if I only counted one card, my new one is doing the work of just over 4 of my old cards in the same amount of time.

Is there still any interest in this now that Bitcoin shit the bed finally? We can start using our unused CPU and GPU cycles again for science if you want to join the team, we have teams for most of the major projects, Rosetta, Milkyway, Primegrid, etc.
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George Gamow - Tue, 26 May 2015 09:03:53 EST ID:0IM2ydyR No.55370 Ignore Report Reply
>>55362
I should stop being lazy and get into this now that you've reminded me.
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INTERPOL !3mB4iDBpWw - Wed, 27 May 2015 23:09:31 EST ID:kiOQuM9F No.55373 Report Reply
>>55370

2 days plugging away at it on and off (not even really trying), I'm already in the top 300 out of nearly 3 and a half million people in recent credit.
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Edwin Salpeter - Mon, 01 Jun 2015 21:31:35 EST ID:lHGvTKQL No.55378 Ignore Report Reply
Cool beans, interpol.

I like to say "boinc" and I like what they're trying to do but my graphics cards sucks balls, so keep up the good work!


The coldest spot in the known universe Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Mike Brown - Thu, 06 Feb 2014 17:29:09 EST ID:KfBom9VV No.52948
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http://phys.org/news/2014-02-coldest-universe.html
>NASA researchers are planning to create the coldest spot in the known universe inside the International Space Station.

>Researchers like Thompson think of the Cold Atom Lab as a doorway into the quantum world. Could the door swing both ways? If the temperature drops low enough, "we'll be able to assemble atomic wave packets as wide as a human hair—that is, big enough for the human eye to see." A creature of quantum physics will have entered the macroscopic world.
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Mon, 18 May 2015 20:13:18 EST ID:1K+dACgX No.55325 Ignore Report Reply
>>55319
Western audiences wouldn't get the reference using any other board, but the philosophy behind ancient Chinese chess aphorisms remains, hence the disconnect between what is seen and what is heard.
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Heinrich Olbers - Tue, 26 May 2015 22:01:17 EST ID:3/OhnWkk No.55371 Ignore Report Reply
No guys, it's my fucking ex girlfriends heart.
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Walter Baade - Wed, 27 May 2015 22:59:37 EST ID:jOF47H5F No.55372 Ignore Report Reply
>>55371
/qq/


the coal of space colonies Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Robert Dicke - Wed, 11 Feb 2015 00:11:33 EST ID:415JX8nG No.55023
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I recently came across a wikipedia article on carbonaceous chondrites, a particular kind of asteroid.
Www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonaceous_chondrite


But what makes these awesome is that they are up to 20% water, contain amino acids (which is very interesting), and sulfur compounds and other biologically useful compounds.

To me it seems readily apparent that these things could of fueled the formation of life during the earths construction. But if these things brought life to earth, shouldn't we bring them to planets and moons we colonize? I mean, work backwards man.

A cool thought is that the first asteroid we bring to mars will be the beginning of its inevitable terra formation
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Alan Guth - Mon, 25 May 2015 02:59:25 EST ID:415JX8nG No.55367 Ignore Report Reply
Maybe we could build a giant lens in between mars and the sun. Tons of giant sheet like lenses layered over a huge distance, possibly all the way inside mercury's orbit, set up kind of like the death stars planet destroyer. The ones closer to the sun would be a mix of the future lenses and mirrors, concentrating the photons into a series of additional sheet lenses inbetween the sun and mars. The lenses in this part would play two primary functions, further concentrate the sun, and also block protons emanating from the sun, (assuming protons actually move in a straight line from the sun, I have a hunch they don't.)
Of course it would be a massive infrastructure project, be we're terraforming baby. The technology I'm talking about will also be here soon, if not on this scale.
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Bernhard Schmidt - Mon, 25 May 2015 03:36:19 EST ID:YHjXylC8 No.55368 Ignore Report Reply
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>>55367
Objects closer to the thing they orbit have a shorter period, though slower velocity than objects further out.
The interaction between two object's orbits produces 5 areas where technically an object could sit relative to the planet. In practice, objects don't remain there for very long (Lagrange 1 and 2 are particularly unstable) until reactions with the other bodies and the solar wind pulls them out, except for Jupiter, because Jupiter is fucking massive.
Any large sheets put outside a magnetic field in space will function like a solar sail, being pushed back by the solar wind it catches/deflects.
Magnetic sails work the same way, except they use an imbalanced in charged particles captured in a magnetic field to deflect charged particles.
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Alan Guth - Mon, 25 May 2015 11:15:15 EST ID:415JX8nG No.55369 Ignore Report Reply
>>55368
Yeah I thought about that after I posted it, can't just stick whatever I want wherever I want, there are no arbitrary orbits


What if real space is whats outside this reality? Oh God this is driving me nuts Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Mike Brown - Wed, 20 May 2015 02:17:19 EST ID:ipV4Szrg No.55327
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What if this reality (all of its dimensions which are interconnected) exist in a vacuum like we observe outside of the limits of Earth, but on a higher scale?
And what if BEINGS like "angels" or "gods" existed in this "space"?
Could any "being" from this realm ever exist in this new concept of "space"?
What implications does this have on philosophy, on religion, on spirituality, on the meaning of life in general?
If this was somehow proven to be true, what is the purposed of living here on a smaller, obviously now inferior scale?
Is it meaningless to think of such a thing in this life, even if it was real?
Even more importantly does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Tycho Brahe - Thu, 21 May 2015 17:07:26 EST ID:eJc7PJV5 No.55335 Ignore Report Reply
OP next time you're gonna fly somewhere, take the window seat of a plane and watch out the window as it takes off...
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Allan Sandage - Fri, 22 May 2015 11:36:01 EST ID:oFxIIvpQ No.55349 Ignore Report Reply
>>55331

>>55335

You're right.
Don't smoke a pound of DMT your first time, right....
This kinda thinking only leads to one place eventually...
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Arthur Eddington - Fri, 22 May 2015 17:43:29 EST ID:eJc7PJV5 No.55353 Ignore Report Reply
>>55349
Smoking a pound of DMT is stupid... IMO it would be better to take progressively large doses each time, and to space things out. High speed mental re-formatting is fun as fuck but don't give the people at D.A.R.E. the opportunity of using your misuse to give a bad name for DMT


cause science Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Georges-Henri Lemaitre - Sat, 09 May 2015 05:30:50 EST ID:PbKyoTEf No.55282
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Maybe I'm just too uneducated of a pleb in the realm of physics to see why this isn't the case, but can someone explain to me why, if we need to adjust our models with something that is 97% at least partially empirically unsubstantiated (dark matter-energy) then why don't we question first if there is some flaw in our model or bias in our thinking?
Thought experiment to exemplify: for the most part, we as biological beings as well as our most advanced instrumentation can detect faster than light particles in only the most abstruse ways; our perception, as is perhaps natural given our evolutionary heritage, is tuned to light. Might the supposition that no (or only special) particles go FTL be an example of circular thinking? Could not the existence of small but significant portions of the universe moving faster than light at any given time, such as ships from interstellar civilizations, or perhaps natural ftl phenomena which is invisible to our photon based instrumentation, account for the observed matter-energy discrepancy (given that an ftl object would disporportionately displace and deflect photons compared to any object moving in normal space, and that, if such ftl worked on means of creating geometric distortions in spacetime such as the Alcubierre drive, produce a net distortion on the observed mass of the universe by the fact of their mass negating local spacetime frames. )
This idea is cobbled together from wikipedia articles, some post-sec hard sciences, watching too much star trek and being turnt the fuck up. If someone more versed in physics can explain to me why there is a very good reason this cannot be the case, I'd very much like to hear it.
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Edwin Hubble - Tue, 12 May 2015 19:14:35 EST ID:RVWMYu65 No.55316 Ignore Report Reply
>>55310
Not exactly. Dark energy is most commonly explained by the presence of a cosmological constant. It's a term in Einstein's GR which falls out in the derivation, Einstein famously used it to fix a relativistic universe to be static when really the equations would predict a collapsing or expanding universe in the presence of matter only. The cosmological constant seems perfectly capable of doing the job but there are concerns with it and particle physics. In a sense the cosmological constant is gravity as we understand it today.

The next idea is to remove the issues with particle physics and set the cosmological constant to zero. It is replaced with modifications to Einstein's gravity at large scales. These other gravitational models can also describe dark energy as it is observed.

The other idea is of course 5th forces like quintessence. These are often harder to test but predictive models of them do exist.

This is why dark energy experiments are so big right now because cosmology has built a bridge to particle physics and the fundamental forces can be tested on the largest scales.
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Daniel Kirkwood - Fri, 15 May 2015 16:17:06 EST ID:AKbZww5z No.55320 Ignore Report Reply
>>55315
I agree, this is a waste of time. This thread has clearly already come to it's conclusions, mostly through just reiterating your own thoughts so loudly that any idea I was articulating got drowned out. For all the shit you know, you are really fucking dumb as a brick and painfully -- dangerously -- narrow minded. If you can't see the circular arguments in your own statements, I feel sorry for you son. Keep worshipping at the scientism altar for as long as you like. Good luck with that.
Nb because this thread was shittrolled into never really discussing the matter of the OP.
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Annie Cannon - Sun, 17 May 2015 19:05:23 EST ID:X4AXKa/R No.55323 Ignore Report Reply
>>55320
Your entire argument is circular as I pointed out. When pressed for evidence all you do is dig the hole deeper and deeper and gradually add insults as sophism fails.


Spacecoach Ignore Report View Thread Reply
James Elliott - Mon, 11 May 2015 03:37:52 EST ID:1ALY54rn No.55304
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Anyone else hear about this idea, I think its pretty clever. Building non-atmospheric water ice/liquid inflatable craft and using the water as a low thrust high impulse engine fuel. This design also, potentially, solves other issues like hull integrity, radiation shielding, self-sustainable life support and maybe even supplying oxygen and hydrogen gases.

http://spacecoach.org/


Why aren't we building a moon base yet? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Bernard-Ferdinand Lyot - Tue, 24 Mar 2015 21:51:23 EST ID:2JDq4Uoe No.55162
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So hear me out guys, getting on the moon is seriously important.

Why is it so expensive and difficult for us to send things to space? It's because of 2 things, breaking free from the Earth's gravity and surviving re-entry into the atmosphere. All of our rockets, satellites, space probes, etc. have to have a massive amount of fuel and ablative armor.
The moon is located in a strategically beneficial spot, right at the top of Earth's gravity well. Once we spend the initial capital to establish a permanent or semi permanent settlement on the moon, the door to space really opens.
We can then design our spacecraft without the need for massive thrust and armor, and wont need to spend nearly as much fuel to get around out there. It doesnt take much to move an object through space, and breaking free of the moon's gravity is exponentially easier than breaking free from Terra. And moving resources from the moon to earth is even easier, just a little push and they fall back to earth on their own. With even a tiny colony on the moon to act as a port of sorts, the trouble of monetizing space mining is essentially solved. Not to mention the insane amount of solar power that can be gotten from the raw, unfiltered power of the Sun.

We need to do this guys, we're quickly running out of several natural resources, rare earth metals in particular, which we're only just beginning to rely heavily on (theyre used in just about any battery, especially phone batteries and electric cars) and they can all be found in the asteroid belt. The Moon is the answer, and it's right at our doorstep. If we could get there in the 60's with the computing equivalent of a dollar store calculator, then we have no excuses to not go with today's technology.

>TL;DR- fuck solving world hunger or social issues, lets just go to the moon.
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Robert Wilson - Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:39:12 EST ID:hfHw2FxQ No.55245 Ignore Report Reply
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Do you think the "Earth will not be habitable forever, we need to move on" message will get through to the politicians and other idiots? Nevermind the religious nuts who want the apocalypse to happen.
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Walter Baade - Tue, 05 May 2015 09:56:18 EST ID:vRWwm6cm No.55277 Ignore Report Reply
You still have to get all the fuel and stuff to the moon, and assemble it there. May as well just do the same thing with LEO if you're going to space anyway.
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Fritz Zwicky - Thu, 07 May 2015 09:07:36 EST ID:llcsDD25 No.55280 Ignore Report Reply
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>>55277
But that's wrong Walter, it's already there. There's an initial investment of resources sure, but that's true of anything.


sonic booms collide Ignore Report View Thread Reply
James van Allen - Mon, 01 Dec 2014 04:15:48 EST ID:BvXkbDPl No.54742
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what would it be if two sonic booms "collided" into each other?
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George Airy - Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:45:49 EST ID:a5zMFg9h No.55152 Ignore Report Reply
Consider what a sonic boom actually is: a pressure wave.
Matter waves pass through one another unaffected.
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Subramanyan Chandrasekhar - Sun, 12 Apr 2015 17:33:31 EST ID:A9+znK2f No.55226 Ignore Report Reply
>>54742
a sonic boom colliding is redundant because a sonic boom is all ready the over stacking of sonic waves, isn't it?
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Riccardo Giacconi - Tue, 05 May 2015 23:56:06 EST ID:9S1uGKA/ No.55278 Ignore Report Reply
>>55226

But what if two jet planes traveling mach 1+ pass by each other, would the two groups of stacking sonic waves even interact with each other? or like the other guy said and pass through each other.

I for one, hope that they would create a MEGA boom.

the flow chart would be as such
super->mega->ultra->SHIT NIGGA YOU CRAZY


Theories on black holes/universe Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Walter Baade - Sun, 12 Apr 2015 08:39:25 EST ID:g7PRBuUF No.55225
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What are some curious theories on what this all is? Existence in the universe is mind blowing when I sit down and think of what we are really a part of. What are your own theories about what we call 'space' is? Like, what's going on from a bigger perspective? Or smaller?
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Daniel Kirkwood - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:11:48 EST ID:kJab1AwD No.55248 Ignore Report Reply
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>>55225


OP MOST 85% OF THE UNIVERSE IS DARK MATTER/EENERGY. ANDROID WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE NO ONE CAN SEE IT
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Alan Guth - Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:32:10 EST ID:9uY/b809 No.55262 Ignore Report Reply
Am I the only one who thinks we are in the cosmic space turtles dream? Fuck.
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Clyde Tombaugh - Mon, 04 May 2015 10:53:18 EST ID:6YVGyMb+ No.55275 Ignore Report Reply
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I made up a story for school. Where the universe is a gaint being thats further then the 4th dimension and we live like microbes inside of it and only scens this being in a 3th dimensional way . But its on a scale so big we cant understand further than intended,just like microbes we just live our purpose but cant visualise the being where in. And black holes are like a chemo killing microbes or problems that harm the universe.


End of the universe Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Thomas Henderson - Thu, 30 Apr 2015 21:22:45 EST ID:ZJgVev/f No.55263
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I know science doesn't care about our feelings, but tell me of any alternate theories other than everything freezing to death or being ripped to shreds that allows something, anything to keep on going and surviving.

Can we eventually develop the technology that allows us to "jump" to a new, younger or possibly truly unending universe with different laws of thermodynamics to carry ourselves on?

Hold me, /sagan/.
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Russel Hulse - Sat, 02 May 2015 08:14:19 EST ID:q5dc4YUL No.55269 Ignore Report Reply
>>55267
>Michio Kaku
God I hate that guy
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Charles Messier - Sat, 02 May 2015 20:39:07 EST ID:6TbPsH2/ No.55271 Ignore Report Reply
The fact that anything exists at all is pretty much the biggest - well, it's technically the only problem in science.
Yeah, some scientists say things like "nothingness is unstable" and that may well be true. But if we can't figure out how nothing can turn into something - and why it turned into quarks, atoms, stars, planets, galaxies instead of something entirely different - there's no way we can say what will eventually happen.

But whether we're made out vibrating strings or just condensed balls of energy the only thing you need to know is,
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William Lassell - Sun, 03 May 2015 23:39:59 EST ID:3SVtd7YR No.55273 Ignore Report Reply
>>55271
maybe the collapse of the underlying universe can cause such things,


Don't believe the hype. Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Mike Brown - Fri, 01 May 2015 21:46:57 EST ID:4GGSsMJY No.55266
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My roommates are misinformation masters and even though I know you guys are smarter than this, but they are crafting a masterful troll work about how the ISS is damaged beyond repair. Look for it online. Lives lost money lost. Death on parade. Thy are some fucking idiots.
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Bernhard Schmidt - Sat, 02 May 2015 03:53:51 EST ID:lHGvTKQL No.55268 Ignore Report Reply
>>55266
Thanks for the heads up but I gotta say the ISS is lame as shit, we can do better than that.

How about a spinning ring station tidally locked between our moon and the earth?
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Urbain Le Verrier - Sat, 02 May 2015 13:06:30 EST ID:XJHlYsmW No.55270 Ignore Report Reply
No, ISS is fine.

There was however an ISS-bound Progress cargo ship that got damaged on the way up somehow and is tumbling uncontrollably. That may be what they're thinking of.
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Subramanyan Chandrasekhar - Sat, 02 May 2015 22:34:50 EST ID:ihYE5feE No.55272 Ignore Report Reply
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>>55268
yeah, that would be way better.

I think ISS is situated so that they can ditch it if they want to stop paying for it though.
the ring station would probably stay up a lot longer.

but to be fair it is the most expensive object ever created by mankind and arguably one of our greatest acheivements.


Kind of a dumb question. Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Harlow Shapley - Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:53:14 EST ID:m296zImB No.55048
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To live on another planet would the sun and the atmosphere be exactly like earth's? Or could we survive near a red dwarf if the planet was just at the right distance to maintain earthlike temperatures?
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Kip Thorne - Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:11:17 EST ID:CtuAeZIA No.55237 Ignore Report Reply
>>55233
Dude, I know this is a drug board, but come on here...
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Margaret Burbidge - Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:32:45 EST ID:YHjXylC8 No.55238 Ignore Report Reply
>>55233
Are you the guy claiming solipsism, therefore the Egyptians had advanced understanding of the universe in /b/?
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Harlow Shapley - Wed, 15 Apr 2015 01:23:31 EST ID:415JX8nG No.55239 Ignore Report Reply
>>55232
I guess personally I do actually believe there is a formal point of life in the grand scheme, but that's sci fi stuff. I didn't realize it came out so much, but I still stand by it.
There must be natural rules to alien life, universal forms, just like the formation of mountains. If evolution is dictated by the environment, similar environments should create similar life. We are more related to horses than we are to deer, but similar habitats, similar place in the food chain, and similar food sources created similar animals, at least morphologically.


Nourishment in space Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Arthur Eddington - Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:40:12 EST ID:y7G/p//a No.54944
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We won't be having hamburgers in space.

Or milk or eggs, for that matter. For every cow slaughtered for food there must be an incredible amount of food grown to sustain the cow. In space stations this may not be feasible due to limited space and resources. We'd be better off focusing energy on hydroponics and a vegan diet would probably be necessary in a long term colony or space station.
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42 Years at Bernie's - Tue, 07 Apr 2015 04:51:37 EST ID:0FbY93Uu No.55217 Ignore Report Reply
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>>54944
Sometimes I think Stephen Hawking doesn't even really know anything about space
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William Lassell - Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:08:44 EST ID:vv5qCj4m No.55218 Ignore Report Reply
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>>55052
As a carnivorous man I have never tasted jizz.
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42 Years at Bernie's - Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:11:18 EST ID:0FbY93Uu No.55219 Ignore Report Reply
>>55218
Don't dip the pen in the company ink my man
Have a good day


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