So.. flying saucers are a thing. View Thread Reply Hide Fritz Zwicky - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:35:25 EST eMAv2J9C No.54813 File: 1418510125360.png -(157180B / 153.50KB, 902x770) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAdj6vpYppAand they're powered by laser beams."with 2 to 6 better fuel efficiency to the space shuttle"Just..watch the whole thing, holy shit. >> Johann Encke - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:58:03 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54814 Reply >>54813This video is ancient.Also, I've known this for a long time, they run on the same concept as a solar sail.The object in OP's pic is about the size of a dinner plate. >> William Huggins - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:32:16 EST 5O93DDXg No.54818 Reply >>54814scale testing or not I want to see the results on the full sized model. Launching a bit of mass isn't hard. But launching the larger mass of a fully space ready rocket is another issue. >> Joseph Taylor Jr. - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:43:36 EST eMAv2J9C No.54819 Reply 1 year later (scaled up model)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_9ac-w4DW8Apparently this is considered a "Lightcraft" and it's distinct from solar sails because it's dependent on the expansion of reaction mass to accelerate rather than being accelerated by light pressure alone. not a lot of news on this, probably not a feasible project to "launch satellites into orbit within 10 years"
>> Johann Encke - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:58:03 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54814 Reply >>54813This video is ancient.Also, I've known this for a long time, they run on the same concept as a solar sail.The object in OP's pic is about the size of a dinner plate.
>> William Huggins - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:32:16 EST 5O93DDXg No.54818 Reply >>54814scale testing or not I want to see the results on the full sized model. Launching a bit of mass isn't hard. But launching the larger mass of a fully space ready rocket is another issue.
>> Joseph Taylor Jr. - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:43:36 EST eMAv2J9C No.54819 Reply 1 year later (scaled up model)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_9ac-w4DW8Apparently this is considered a "Lightcraft" and it's distinct from solar sails because it's dependent on the expansion of reaction mass to accelerate rather than being accelerated by light pressure alone. not a lot of news on this, probably not a feasible project to "launch satellites into orbit within 10 years"
Space is interesting View Thread Reply Hide Tycho Brahe - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:11:27 EST R7ksFdp2 No.54798 File: 1418249487586.jpg -(855748B / 835.69KB, 2560x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I really want to learn more about space, /sagan/ but the sheer vastness of the amount of information on the subject is just overwhelming to me. I could spend a lifetime just literally reading about space, different theories, the math involved with space and space travel, how stars work, if interdimensional travel is possible, astral planes... Just all of it. And to be honest it's very humbling but yet it puts things into perspective. We are less than a fraction than a blink of an eye in age to the universe, and we are beyond microscopic because the universe is so vast but yet, it would take millions of years to reach the farthest depths. Maybe I'm over-thinking this but space is just mystifying to me and there's so much to learn and I don't know where to start. >> Caroline Herschel - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:38:40 EST 4HbkLal6 No.54799 Reply >>54798>>where"to start"does it actually matter? I mean, truly? On a cosmic scale, geographically or in size? Duration?Space is pretty fucking interesting man. >> Riccardo Giacconi - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:50:24 EST 9uY/b809 No.54801 Reply Watch Cosmos, new and old. Read books by Sagan, Hawking, Tyson. >> John Bahcall - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:04:55 EST R7ksFdp2 No.54802 Reply >>54801I'm going to start with those, and any other documentaries on like the history channel or discovery cause those are interesting too when they actually play them and not reality tv because everyone on cable is a sellout.
>> Caroline Herschel - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:38:40 EST 4HbkLal6 No.54799 Reply >>54798>>where"to start"does it actually matter? I mean, truly? On a cosmic scale, geographically or in size? Duration?Space is pretty fucking interesting man.
>> Riccardo Giacconi - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:50:24 EST 9uY/b809 No.54801 Reply Watch Cosmos, new and old. Read books by Sagan, Hawking, Tyson.
>> John Bahcall - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:04:55 EST R7ksFdp2 No.54802 Reply >>54801I'm going to start with those, and any other documentaries on like the history channel or discovery cause those are interesting too when they actually play them and not reality tv because everyone on cable is a sellout.
high boy View Thread Reply Hide Stephen Hawking - Mon, 08 Dec 2014 02:54:07 EST PCHvbwVp No.54779 File: 1418025247741.jpg -(99472B / 97.14KB, 1024x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Im high off weed and painkillers right now, someone tell me what's up with other life forms in another galaxy..When will we finally come in to contact with another earth like planet? :(i 6 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Edward Barnard - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:30:17 EST H3af7FdZ No.54788 Reply >>54787Lockheed Martin CEO here, most of this money, not counting bonuses, fraud and blow, goes towards killing babies for oil and satanic gratification within the limits of physics, available energy and material technology. Sorry. >> Bernard Burke - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:53:03 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54789 Reply >>54787When you have studied the progress of science and technology for as long as I have, predicting the future becomes an art form.Plus you have to understand that we're on an exponential curve with our progress, not a linear. If it were linearly, it would be hundreds of years, at this rate a quantum AI will invent warp travel in less than 100. It won't even be invented by humans, it will be invented by a machine. >> James Elliott - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 01:15:47 EST Zbe0PVOU No.54792 Reply >>54787If we're going to be the world's greatest superpower, we damn well better have defence at the top of our priorities. Money well spent if you ask me. And as you said, it's advancing our technology at a breathtaking pace. The ISS is the public relations arm of our space program, in case you didn't know.
>> Edward Barnard - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:30:17 EST H3af7FdZ No.54788 Reply >>54787Lockheed Martin CEO here, most of this money, not counting bonuses, fraud and blow, goes towards killing babies for oil and satanic gratification within the limits of physics, available energy and material technology. Sorry.
>> Bernard Burke - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:53:03 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54789 Reply >>54787When you have studied the progress of science and technology for as long as I have, predicting the future becomes an art form.Plus you have to understand that we're on an exponential curve with our progress, not a linear. If it were linearly, it would be hundreds of years, at this rate a quantum AI will invent warp travel in less than 100. It won't even be invented by humans, it will be invented by a machine.
>> James Elliott - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 01:15:47 EST Zbe0PVOU No.54792 Reply >>54787If we're going to be the world's greatest superpower, we damn well better have defence at the top of our priorities. Money well spent if you ask me. And as you said, it's advancing our technology at a breathtaking pace. The ISS is the public relations arm of our space program, in case you didn't know.
Space: The Final Fronteir View Thread Reply Hide Robert Wilson - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:43:06 EST 2gyC10rH No.54773 File: 1417981386115.jpg -(1033163B / 1008.95KB, 4256x2832) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. In1967, The Outer Space Treaty held that everything in the solar system, except Earth itself, is the property of everyone in the world and no one country.What does this mean about future space colonization? Can we not claim areas to develop and utilize? Or will we just disregard this, place weapons and begin star wars for land? >> Mike Brown - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 17:32:32 EST yZpPrhjN No.54777 Reply >>54773That treaty served as a means for big countries to mutually stop each other from doing stupid things during that era.Future agreements, over how sovereignty of space colony functioned, will likely emerge from, how countries will be dealing with artificial islands and floating cities on Earth's ocean in coming era.
>> Mike Brown - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 17:32:32 EST yZpPrhjN No.54777 Reply >>54773That treaty served as a means for big countries to mutually stop each other from doing stupid things during that era.Future agreements, over how sovereignty of space colony functioned, will likely emerge from, how countries will be dealing with artificial islands and floating cities on Earth's ocean in coming era.
who will join my army to destory the moon View Thread Reply Hide Henrietta Levitt - Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:42:16 EST EVyOC35t No.54391 File: 1410727336207.jpg -(127617B / 124.63KB, 640x654) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. jesus fuck I hate the moonlook at it sitting up there and being lazy while I have to work all dayI cant wait until im rich and powerful and can finally deal with the moon...Whats our game plan guys we need to move quick so IT cant stop us 23 posts and 9 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Edwin Hubble - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:19:30 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54692 Reply >>54691Well shit, Piccolo already destroyed the moon. >> Friedrich Bessel - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:25:43 EST wK+Onyuj No.54693 Reply >>54692I guess the light of that event hasn't reached Earth yet. >> Johann Bode - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:58:01 EST 5O93DDXg No.54739 Reply 1417147081882.jpg -(23771B / 23.21KB, 480x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>54693
>> Edwin Hubble - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:19:30 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54692 Reply >>54691Well shit, Piccolo already destroyed the moon.
>> Friedrich Bessel - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:25:43 EST wK+Onyuj No.54693 Reply >>54692I guess the light of that event hasn't reached Earth yet.
>> Johann Bode - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:58:01 EST 5O93DDXg No.54739 Reply 1417147081882.jpg -(23771B / 23.21KB, 480x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>54693
Quantum Entanglement in astronomy View Thread Reply Hide Alan Guth - Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:28:16 EST 415JX8nG No.54724 File: 1416688096228.jpg -(70550B / 68.90KB, 439x310) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I recently read an article where some experimenters were able to entangle light with particles bound by the strong interaction, thereby creating a "ghost" strong force within the group of photons, which don't have color. I believe the researchers alluded that it was like a crystal made of light or something.I don't really understand the process which by entanglement works, but I was wondering if this could have implications for neutrino astronomy?Could neutrinos traveling through the detector be entangled with photons or the particles of some electrically charged medium in order to create measurable events and create an image?Imige is the Super-Kamiokande neutrino telescope 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Walter Adams - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:25:57 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54733 Reply >>54732>quantum uncertaintyActually I'm wrong, it's this.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)Wikipedia has a good example of why.>A standard mercury-in-glass thermometer must absorb or give up some thermal energy to record a temperature, and therefore changes the temperature of the body which it is measuring. >> Joseph von Fraunhofer - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:04:40 EST GHJG01Xm No.54734 Reply >>54732>>54733It sounds like you're talking about quantum teleportation and/or remote state preparation. Problem is, neither allows you to communicate classical bits faster than the speed of light. >> Ejnar Hertzprung - Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:42:15 EST Im3GVW// No.54738 Reply >>54724The problem with neutrino detectors in that the probability of interaction with matter is very low, so you don't detect many of them. Entangling them with photons wouldn't improve that. Entangling them also wouldn't give you any more information, I don't think you could actually entangle them without changing the neutrino destroying the information you want. We can already makes images with neutrinos it just takes a very long time due to low count rates.
>> Walter Adams - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:25:57 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54733 Reply >>54732>quantum uncertaintyActually I'm wrong, it's this.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)Wikipedia has a good example of why.>A standard mercury-in-glass thermometer must absorb or give up some thermal energy to record a temperature, and therefore changes the temperature of the body which it is measuring.
>> Joseph von Fraunhofer - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:04:40 EST GHJG01Xm No.54734 Reply >>54732>>54733It sounds like you're talking about quantum teleportation and/or remote state preparation. Problem is, neither allows you to communicate classical bits faster than the speed of light.
>> Ejnar Hertzprung - Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:42:15 EST Im3GVW// No.54738 Reply >>54724The problem with neutrino detectors in that the probability of interaction with matter is very low, so you don't detect many of them. Entangling them with photons wouldn't improve that. Entangling them also wouldn't give you any more information, I don't think you could actually entangle them without changing the neutrino destroying the information you want. We can already makes images with neutrinos it just takes a very long time due to low count rates.
design your own alien! View Thread Reply Hide Alan Guth - Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:56:03 EST C2T6C64T No.54670 File: 1415904963198.jpg -(725113B / 708.12KB, 2800x3500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. basically just imagine something we could meet in the future. something that evolved somewhere that wasnt earth. or just honorable mentions of someones elses creations. i always liked the elcor of mass effect, the pupeteers of nivens known space, the turlogs of the damned trilogy, the various hive-minded insectoid species of scifi in general and so forth as interesting examples of how a species might develop. not just your standard bipedal humanoid with a weird face. 5 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Henry Russell - Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:32:30 EST sky71Ye7 No.54699 Reply >>54697Nice! Cool and farfetched, though some of them kinda look like pokemons with those bright colors. What's that rigelian alien at the top?>>54679I don't think aquatic species can develop technological civilizations, but there's nothing that stops mollusk-like species to conquer the land. As for AC, if you don't like civ-type games I won't recommend it to you. It is cumbersome and unintuitive. The quotes, movies and text you get when researching new tech was the only thing that kept me playing for as long as I did TBH. The game's hard sci-fi lore is superb. >> James van Allen - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:18:20 EST EHSCkQyN No.54715 Reply 1416554300720.jpg -(62220B / 60.76KB, 516x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I think that aliens probably look like Jeff Goldblum. >> Fred Whipple - Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:09:50 EST 4HbkLal6 No.54722 Reply you can be certain they'll be acetylene welding steel, whoever they are. I wonder what kind of cars they'd drive...
>> Henry Russell - Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:32:30 EST sky71Ye7 No.54699 Reply >>54697Nice! Cool and farfetched, though some of them kinda look like pokemons with those bright colors. What's that rigelian alien at the top?>>54679I don't think aquatic species can develop technological civilizations, but there's nothing that stops mollusk-like species to conquer the land. As for AC, if you don't like civ-type games I won't recommend it to you. It is cumbersome and unintuitive. The quotes, movies and text you get when researching new tech was the only thing that kept me playing for as long as I did TBH. The game's hard sci-fi lore is superb.
>> James van Allen - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:18:20 EST EHSCkQyN No.54715 Reply 1416554300720.jpg -(62220B / 60.76KB, 516x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I think that aliens probably look like Jeff Goldblum.
>> Fred Whipple - Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:09:50 EST 4HbkLal6 No.54722 Reply you can be certain they'll be acetylene welding steel, whoever they are. I wonder what kind of cars they'd drive...
Schrodinger's Cat View Thread Reply Hide Floyd Heywood. R. - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 01:19:03 EST zxyit23m No.54578 File: 1414646343503.jpg -(747347B / 729.83KB, 848x848) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. So, I think it's possible that the cat is both both dead and alive. I think this is explained quite easily by the addition of time--it really doesn't matter. The experiment shows that the cat can exist in both it's living and dead states simultaneously because in one case, one outcome is possible, and in another, the same is true for the other. To an observer, therefore, the cat would both be dead, alive, and any combination or twist thereof. I see no problem with this. It's fascinating really, and illustrates pretty clearly that reality is a function of what can, and cannot happen. Things do, or do not. They also try, because we can imagine them trying. It's all quite beautiful and elegant really. 10 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Stephen Hawking - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:48:39 EST /lSzVChU No.54721 Reply >>54578This is a joke or OP is 10 years old >> Ejnar Hertzprung - Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:51:29 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54726 Reply >>54578To an observer, they would observe the cat being alive for a short period of time until the geiger counter beeped and triggered a mechanism to kill the cat.Real cats are made of too many particles to have such literal duality, and the definition of "alive" is just an assortment of many many different chemical interactions happening on the macro-scale.The Schroedinger's Cat of the experiment is supposed to be representative of a single particle's quantum state, not an actual living cat. >> Anders Angstrom - Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:12:22 EST dRwOcIBL No.54740 Reply 1417407142005.jpg -(973138B / 950.33KB, 2322x4128) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>54578I will preface an delusionally simple and effectively null hypothesis with a fact. This fact is that I am an idiot. Now that I have that out of the way I would like to propose an idea that's bounced in my head a couple times. It is in no way based in fact nor entirely complete logic. I just want to say something with no judgement so that I may allow the idea to be considered by intelligent individuals or at the very least a few stoners on the net.Through the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, the hypercondensed universe at the beginning of time could have been both stable and unstable. Out of that uncertainty one of two realities spurred this one into existence.Thanks for being the only ones to hear this crackpot hypothesis.nb
>> Stephen Hawking - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:48:39 EST /lSzVChU No.54721 Reply >>54578This is a joke or OP is 10 years old
>> Ejnar Hertzprung - Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:51:29 EST ksAXy5yQ No.54726 Reply >>54578To an observer, they would observe the cat being alive for a short period of time until the geiger counter beeped and triggered a mechanism to kill the cat.Real cats are made of too many particles to have such literal duality, and the definition of "alive" is just an assortment of many many different chemical interactions happening on the macro-scale.The Schroedinger's Cat of the experiment is supposed to be representative of a single particle's quantum state, not an actual living cat.
>> Anders Angstrom - Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:12:22 EST dRwOcIBL No.54740 Reply 1417407142005.jpg -(973138B / 950.33KB, 2322x4128) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>54578I will preface an delusionally simple and effectively null hypothesis with a fact. This fact is that I am an idiot. Now that I have that out of the way I would like to propose an idea that's bounced in my head a couple times. It is in no way based in fact nor entirely complete logic. I just want to say something with no judgement so that I may allow the idea to be considered by intelligent individuals or at the very least a few stoners on the net.Through the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, the hypercondensed universe at the beginning of time could have been both stable and unstable. Out of that uncertainty one of two realities spurred this one into existence.Thanks for being the only ones to hear this crackpot hypothesis.nb
When a wise man points at the moon, the imbecile examines his finger. View Thread Reply Hide Sammy Delorian - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:32:18 EST dc3WfPuZ No.54703 File: 1416421938641.jpg -(59045B / 57.66KB, 640x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Matt Taylor lands a module on Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko, some 300 million miles from Earth.Some imbecile monkeys bully him because of his shirt.Over the last few days, we have learned that mankind can chase down a comet speeding through space at 34,000 mph, but resisting the outrage machine, kicked into high gear over a trifle, is completely beyond its powers.who the fuck let these ape-women bully this man who set a great new step in space-discovery?!Stupid, shit-flinging femtards! 10 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Tadashi Nakajima - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:29:11 EST n1ifNqo9 No.54718 Reply >>54714>Scientists used to wear suits and tuxedos. This dude is making a joke out of the profession by wearing crap like that. I think pandering to business-culture would be a bigger joke. I mean how sad would it be if you spend decades letting your boss tell you how to dress, until you finally get to the top of your field and realise that you still have to let the audience (who honestly don't care if you live or die) tell you how to dress? >> Robert Dicke - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:00:52 EST yZpPrhjN No.54719 Reply 1416592852921.gif -(232796B / 227.34KB, 612x3671) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>54712>In my opinion the first two tweets had a point, but then everything got blown way out of proportion and now some crazies on both sides of the argument are just doing what they do best. It's simple: Society is utterly insane. >> Robert Dicke - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:48:08 EST yZpPrhjN No.54720 Reply >>54703>When a wise man points at the moon, the imbecile examines his finger.If you update that it'll be:When the modernist techno-futurist points at the comet, the postmodern structuralist examine the glove.(Also, I really really should be focusing on my work instead of web surf.)
>> Tadashi Nakajima - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:29:11 EST n1ifNqo9 No.54718 Reply >>54714>Scientists used to wear suits and tuxedos. This dude is making a joke out of the profession by wearing crap like that. I think pandering to business-culture would be a bigger joke. I mean how sad would it be if you spend decades letting your boss tell you how to dress, until you finally get to the top of your field and realise that you still have to let the audience (who honestly don't care if you live or die) tell you how to dress?
>> Robert Dicke - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:00:52 EST yZpPrhjN No.54719 Reply 1416592852921.gif -(232796B / 227.34KB, 612x3671) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>54712>In my opinion the first two tweets had a point, but then everything got blown way out of proportion and now some crazies on both sides of the argument are just doing what they do best. It's simple: Society is utterly insane.
>> Robert Dicke - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:48:08 EST yZpPrhjN No.54720 Reply >>54703>When a wise man points at the moon, the imbecile examines his finger.If you update that it'll be:When the modernist techno-futurist points at the comet, the postmodern structuralist examine the glove.(Also, I really really should be focusing on my work instead of web surf.)
