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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Floating colonies on Venus

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- Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:45:02 EST vB+y87GU No.55850
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What does /sagan/ think of this?
I think it's a pretty fucking sweet idea. I wonder what sort of materials you could use that are both light weight and durable enough for a floating Venusian colony. I had an idea that could help with the buoyancy of the thing: non essential parts of the structure (floors and walls) could be made out of brick like objects that are either vacuum hollow or filled with a gas like helium at very low pressure. They would be brick like objects because many could be punctured without jepordizing the integrity of the station. one could also vent waste heat out the bottom and sides to create a bit of thrust.
The only major problem would be in getting people and materials to and from the colony. Then again, I suspect by the time we're in a position to build something like this, navigating the haze of the Venusian atmosphere safely won't be much of a challenge.
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Johannes Kepler - Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:13:19 EST IwAsVtyx No.55867 Reply
>>55866

Humans go places and do things to get stuff. Not just to do it, those emotions are just used to motivate people. Every great explorer was after land, gold, slaves, riches. I want riches. The asteroid belt is where its at.

I wouldn't want to go to Venus, there isn't anything there. You can't land on the surface, no moons, no nothing, bbbbooring. Even in your super-future there will be shit-holes no one will want to go to. Look at the US state of North Dakota, a giant frozen field full of self-destructive Native Americans, up until the last 10 year or so, it was fucking empty because all that was there was grass and nothing. But then fracking happened and then there was an oil boom and then 100,000s of people looking to get rich, and most of those people are blue collar folks with nothing else going for them. The blue collars go loose limbs getting the riches to pipe back to cities to be profits for rich owner of industry.

This is exaclty happening now, SpaceX, ULA, Virgin Galactic.

Given our lives now, i know in 300 years there will be a miserable dick job of 'asteroid miner'. So you didn't go to college and you are a physically capable young person, get your ass to space and go get some stuff.

I'm not folding my arms, I like realistic sci-fi. In your universe, I want magic powers like the force and shit.
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Robert Dicke - Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:00:55 EST vB+y87GU No.55873 Reply
>>55867
>The asteroid belt is where its at.
Well obviously colonization of Mars and Venus and the construction of space habitats would take place within the context of a well established and rapidly expanding space economy. I don't have to tell you that there is an incredible abundance of resources between Mercury and suburban Jupiter. In the midst of taking advantage of this tremendous windfall, it only makes sense to put habitable places where we can. If for no other reason than as a way station and a refuge. (think a stop for fuel or something at a space station orbiting Venus on your way from Earth to Mercury or something)

>I wouldn't want to go to Venus, there isn't anything there. You can't land on the surface, no moons, no nothing, bbbbooring
The most brutal hellscape in the solar system is boring to you? I don't want to insult you or anything, but whaaa? I don't know how any place in our solar system could be considered boring (well, aside from the MASSIVE expanses of literally nothing, but that goes without saying)
>you can't land on the surface
With currently existing caveman tech it's not a very good idea.

>Given our lives now, i know in 300 years there will be a miserable dick job of 'asteroid miner'. So you didn't go to college and you are a physically capable young person, get your ass to space and go get some stuff.
Frankly neither of us can imagine what human societies will look like in three centuries. If neo-liberal capitalism is still the default system, I'm not sure we'll even be around in three hundred years. Anyway, asteroid mining will likely be almost entirely automated. It makes more sense to have a bunch of durable, easy to produce machines hacking up rocks in space, not a bunch of frail bloodsacks who can't function in an irradiated, freezing, vacuum.

> I like realistic sci-fi
Me too. I love Star Wars, but the lore of franchises like Star Trek and Mass Effect is so much more interesting BECAUSE so much of it is plausible.

>In your universe, I want magic powers like the force and shit.
I'm not operating within a magic universe. I'm talking about something that will become achievable within the context of a future space based economy. I see the point in your criticisms. There isn't a direct need for a Venusian colony when you could just have a few ring habitats orbiting the planet. Still, a floating colony could be useful for tourism and scientific research. And when you've got a massive economy and advanced technology, it's inevitable that some people will think "hey, lets do thing."

>>55868
Brah, the sun isn't a rare earth metal.

420

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- Thu, 03 Dec 2015 04:55:36 EST wqEfwqpm No.55837
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Whats in your sky tonight?
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Maximilian Wolf - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 06:58:43 EST wqEfwqpm No.55838 Reply
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we did it boys

Ridiculously large coincidence

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- Sun, 08 Nov 2015 16:45:55 EST D1mxUOc5 No.55796
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So I was playing around on SpaceEngine on my very mediocre PC and came across this view which I thought looked pretty cool so I screenshotted it (the image on the left). A day or so later I was watching SpaceEngine videos on YouTube and came across a video with the image on the right on it. I looked for the coordinates on the video but there was nothing there.

What are the chances of this? I couldn't believe it when I saw it, it's undeniably the same view, the chances of this are miniscule right? Am I the only one absolutely amazed by this?
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Galileo Galilei - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:45:27 EST N+uGi0dP No.55842 Reply
>>55799
lmao coincidences are fun man, see if you can follow a trail of them to some life changing event like Kermit Michael Riggs
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Chushiro Hayashi - Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:09:47 EST IwAsVtyx No.55846 Reply
>>55796

It's almost like.....like.....there is a limited number of planetary bitmaps within the software. And....and....the algorithms used to generate new planetary systems aren't.....perfect?

>Am I the only one absolutely amazed by this?

Seems as if it isn't hard to amaze you, huh?
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Johannes Kepler - Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:43:27 EST IwAsVtyx No.55869 Reply
>>55796

OP, go ask /vg/. Its a game, coded by a human, with errors. hell, the project is freeware written by a handful of people. make a donation at the website and maybe you will get more of the awesome quality this software brings.

"I WANT TO STOP THE EARTH FROM SPINNING" reply

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- Thu, 03 Dec 2015 14:40:23 EST zy6FIvhr No.55839
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so...
if you want to collapse the core your gonna need some VERY STRONG magnets, drills, charges (controlled as fuck as the crust isnt purely solid it has fractures & holes & allsorts which kill miners e.c.t).

First, well need to friends up or kill & impersonate someone "high up", with funds we can become a private interest in the many 'space programmes'. With the severe lack of funding NASA are recieving, they are playing ball to a lot more private interests & with their brains & techonology the charges could easily be places in the least dangerous palces meaning you dont die & can continue your mission).

To bore holes we will have to become frackers, we may need to relocate. The best places would either be the oil fields in asia as that has less crust & population to traverse or the American lands which are heavily fractured & drilled. If we impersonate or friends up the right people we will have access to underground networks, which go deeper than people think & are surprisingly stable. But once we have the licences for that, we will need similar minds to employ who hate things enough not to grass us up for depleting the polarity of the earth & reduction on key natural phases & fields.

With the resources we now currently own, not only do we not have to bury down ourselves, we can send people who hate things more than us & dgaf more than us. Reward their families amply if they get fucked up. That & we have a secure network of illegal activities intent on felling the clouds & allowing our precious shields to wander off into the vacuums of space.

Now you finally have the means to affect the polarity of the earth, you will need to connect the global power network, which there isnt yet. You would have to make one, but with our resources so far this will only take half a life time or so. Dw if you die or me there are plenty of other cunts we can trust. Now with the power, we can safely construct magnets at the entrance to the large bore holes & lower them near the crust before activating. Cables would need to be adamantium alloy as that stands up to even super heroes according to tv & comics so its pretty tough shit.

Now all which remains is for our calculation wizzes to be correct, the hardware not to fault (well have to employ asians & pay them well as were lazy & require cyanide). You now have, as I currently see it, 3 choices... which will be more effective I have not enough time to consider, like ever in my life.... You I recommend you take a shot & flip a coin, yelling fuck yeah.

A: Start both magnets at the same time in the hope this freezes the movement of molten materials & any magnetic materials will hopefully travel to the magnets, disrupting the orbital flow of the plasma & other materials. This could do nothing & just fuck every electronic ever up & stick us all to the ground via our belt buckles/tear things out of people bodies who have pins or heart tickers e.c.t

B:Slowly start one magnet, so that instead of it just doing nothing but making the world uber magnetic, more... It will slowly start to split the contents of the plasma & magma. Making smooth transition in the orbital flow near impossible. One its up to enough power to start physically vibrating, slanting, fucking the earth. Start the opposite magnet up quick, which I must mention has to be made of a poly material or something stronger, so it dosent get broken by the first magnetic pulls. When the 2nd magnet gets stronger, it will effectively be holding the different magnetic & non magnetic elements of the core at either side, without motion except motion similar to that seen in a centrifuge where the contents of the bottle are forced to the side & the pressure helps mix the bottle.
The earth will now have 0 protection from any foreign anything, waves, physicals & dark matters unknown reactions with events such as these.
Also the earth now has no air, its moving towards the sun & we have no shields up (unless were far ahead in science as what were told, which is obviously true but the point where we can manipulate & shield the entire earth whilst the power is being directed to the magnets, its frankly beyond us as far as I can see. If we stick to primaeval warning logic were either fuqd or gonna be universe nazis, which is impossible as well be isolated by the current powers out there …
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- Thu, 21 May 2015 16:45:28 EST eJc7PJV5 No.55333
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Thomas Gold - Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:13:52 EST Z2XGH5kJ No.55831 Reply
praise the great comet~
comets be praised and comet us some comets sowe cancomet more comets.
also,idig comets and you should too,praise comets!

Relativistic Quandary

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- Mon, 27 Apr 2015 22:50:40 EST 4px0o/Io No.55260
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A field force propagates at the speed of light forever. Suppose this field force causes a quantum reaction when it encounters certain particles. This reaction releases a gamma ray burst in all directions.

Now suppose an observer is sitting in the direction perpendicular to the asymptote of the gamma producing event. {pardon the unwieldiness here is a visual representation: )-> }

Does he notice an increment between detecting the gamma ray, and detecting the field force? Or does he experience it all at once, as an event horizon?
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Fritz Zwicky - Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:00:52 EST Y+TLwE2a No.55814 Reply
>>55260
PLEASE GIVE ME (ZACHARY) A THEORY OR YOUR 2 CENTS ON HOW THIS SCHIZO-AFFECTIVE DISORDER MAKES TELEPATHY POSSIBLE///////////////

Thanks in advanced.
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Fritz Zwicky - Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:44:12 EST Y+TLwE2a No.55816 Reply
>>55260
i believe gamma radiation made Bruce Banner into the hulk. So to answer your question to the best of my ability i'd have to say "Rev up those dicks 'cause i sure am a huge faggot!"

Let us not forget...

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- Tue, 03 Nov 2015 15:53:43 EST Z0dqdxc5 No.55789
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... who started it all.

Star showing signs that could be (probably aren't) alien constructions.

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- Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:00:07 EST ruKNVqHw No.55749
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/10/14/weird_star_strange_dips_in_brightness_are_a_bit_baffling.html

> “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider," Penn State astronomer Jason Wright told The Atlantic, "but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”

Basically Kepler has observed a star with dips in it's luminosity exponentially larger than any planet would cause. Even a Jupiter-sized planet would only account for a 1% drop. But the object or objects observed by Kepler cause a drop of up to 22%, indicating an object or cluster of objects roughly half the width of the star itself.
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Alan Guth - Sun, 25 Oct 2015 08:37:11 EST sky71Ye7 No.55777 Reply
>>55776
Source?!

Man, if this turns out to be alien stellar engineering, it would be fucking nuts!
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Jan Hendrik Oort - Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:09:54 EST ruKNVqHw No.55778 Reply
>>55777

Links below, but it's now moot. The statement from Gerald Harp of SETI about a repeated signal has been removed from the first link despite being present earlier yesterday. And the second link has another statement from Harp claiming his first statement wasn't accurate and there haven't been any signals at all. So we have two conflicting statements from the same man with the second statement confirming the first ones existence despite attempts to erase it.

Probably just crappy reporting, but backpedaling of this nature happens so often in regards to aliens that a little tinfoil may be permitted. It's up to you what to take from this.

http://www.universetoday.com/122971/seti-institute-undertakes-search-for-alien-signal-from-kepler-star-kic-8462852/
http://www.grenzwissenschaft-aktuell.de/seti-empfaengt-periodische-signale-von-kic-8462852-20151022/
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Alan Guth - Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:32:39 EST sky71Ye7 No.55780 Reply
>>55778
>Awaiting more accurate information about the way the signal before, but from an interview by "UniverseToday.com" by Dr. Gerald Harp from the SETI Institute, shows that it is a "weird periodic signal", " which although potentially natural origin but there is clearly value to examine it more closely. " Besides the natural explanation, so stressed "Universe Today", prefer Harp but also "a distant intelligent source" into consideration.

Google translated it, so sorry for the weird wording. It's interesting though, but a bit surprising that they'd discover a "weird periodic signal" so easily from 1500 light years away just like that. I'm no astronomer or anything though, so what do I know?

About the back-pedaling: I work at a university communication department, and I'd say it's likely to be a journalistic citation error. The paper isn't peer-reviewed yet so there is probably an embargo on details from the SETI study results, which would explain Harp rescinding his earlier statements. As the comment came so early in the publishing cycle of the article they're likely to yet check for errors or anomalies in the study, so making a comment about a detected signal at this point would be very unwise.

Idea for launching small payloads to obrit.

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!lwriJ94kMg - Fri, 25 Sep 2015 22:33:15 EST 3KDKAApy No.55685
File: 1443234795649.jpg -(16847B / 16.45KB, 320x240) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Idea for launching small payloads to obrit.
I've always wanted to build a real rocket that could go to space, but it's far outside of my peasant like budget. So I've thought of what seems like a good idea for a cheap solution to launch vehicles to space.

Use a balloon to lift a small stabilized platform that has a rocket on it. The rocket launches from there into orbit.

And when I use the word platform I don't literally mean a flat launch pad but something that sort of looks like a missile launcher...idk what the technical term for that is...turret?

You could also scale this idea up for conceivably larger loads.
One problem I can see though is when the balloon goes up it would drifts away from the launch site and possibly fuck up your launch.
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John Wheeler - Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:18:27 EST Y//WNNPR No.55743 Reply
>>55742
I believe what they are saying is: this type of flight is not really possible from a simple rocket (unless you happen to have a strong AI laying around and the ability to get it to pilot your rocket, I guess). There are a lot of measurements that have to be taken throughout the flight for numerous different reasons, NASA, et al, have the ability to shine lasers at and from their rockets, along with all sorts of other atmospheric sensors both on the vehicle and on the ground to get very precise measurements which are used during the flight to make sure the vehicle is doing exactly what it needs to be doing at each moment.

A dumb rocket, even one that can generate the speed to get into orbit, is going to have a snowballs chance in hell of actually getting into orbit because it can't make any corrections mid flight; you'd have to get super lucky and have innumerable atmospheric factors be completely optimal for your rockets design for such to work.

Remote piloting or autonomous piloting could be possible if your ship also had the sensors to collect the needed data, but that's far outside of the hobbiest realm.
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James Mother Fucking Randi !lwriJ94kMg - Wed, 07 Oct 2015 00:58:46 EST 3KDKAApy No.55744 Reply
>>55743
Fuck all that I'll just let it dumb fire and land where it may, weather it's on an orphanage or an embassy. I don't care.

Jokes aside I guess you're right about all that stuff though.
I guess this would be really only useful for short sub orbital flights.
You know, like for sending a go pro or small rodent way up there for pictures and science.
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James Mother Fucking Randi !lwriJ94kMg - Wed, 07 Oct 2015 15:52:47 EST 3KDKAApy No.55745 Reply
>>55744
After thinking about this more, if I'm only doing sub orbital flights then GPS data should still be useful and viable since it would still be below all the sats.

Theoretic Astrophysics

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- Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:09:31 EST 5ViW/6q0 No.55720
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my new theories in the creation of, and ultimate fate, of our universe. As well as what dark energy really is; and POSSIBLY has something to do with where gravity is permeating into our universe from, since it is weaker than it should be compared to the other forces, even though that really wasn't intended to be included with the rest of the theories. I could be totally wrong on all accounts, but I do love the ideas.Here we go! (Keep in mind that we don't know what the inside of a black hole is like, certainly not a 4D black hole.. the 'polar ends' talked about here could give off gravity due to strange possibilities, like space within space... the 4D black hole that is theorized here to give us our 'spacial plane' could also be sitting inside a spacial plane itself, and it's so large that it reaches the maximum edge of its bending - on the outside of the 4D black hole)

BUT ANYWAY AGAIN, here we go.

Outside of our universe it is theorized that energy is being formed and popping out of existence continuously, at the planck scale. It's theorized this is where our quantum singularity came from. Through quantum tunneling, that tiniest of energy became the singularity that eventually birthed our universe. The problem is we don't know why it expanded in the first place, or why there was more matter than anti-matter as for us to have enough matter, a significant enough amount, as to form galaxies and the universe we know. They believe there are infinite universes, or a multiverse, with every possibility of physics realized. But I'm only concerned with our own, and the answers to these questions. Continue to read and you might agree that it is much easier for our exact universe to continuously be recreated with the exact same amount of matter as this one; which would be highly significant if true because that means the physics that produce life would also be eternally renewed, and without much time needed for it to happen in comparison to random universes. And what a pleasant thought that is.
It is my theory that not only does energy at the planck scale pop in and out of existence, but also multiple singularities constantly coming into existence as well. Keep in mind we don't have, what I call, a spacial plane yet. The singularity must first give birth to that plane. But why does it expand and how does it create that spacial plane? We go back to the multiple singularities. For some reason, there are more created of regular matter than anti-matter. First off though it takes a long time for a singularity to come across another singularity, and with no spacial plane yet there would be no gravity to bend it and draw them towards one another for these collisions. But after enough time, there was a singularity of enough matter that came to being through collisions with singularities of likewise regular matter. Eventually it collided with a singularity of significant amounts of anti-matter so that the energy released from them both did something amazing. The anti-matter destroyed as much matter as was its own equivalent, but from the force of it all an unimaginably large black hole was formed and it sucked all the leftover matter back into itself, with none escaping. This is the theorized 4D black hole, published by another scientist; although I'd had the theory months before him - that there was an original black hole that were reside inside. But being 4D adds much significance to my original theory, so I thank him for that. Moving on. The matter sucked into this 4D black hole was smeared across the surface of its inside. So our universe is a 3D plane inside a 4D object, and it is this 4D black hole that is our 'spacial plane' on which matter can bend the plane with its mass, giving our universe the properties we see today. Like a black hole in our universe shooting gamma ray bursts from two opposite ends instead of all directions, so does this 4D black hole similarly have 'polar ends'. While the first singularities were ultra dense, this point in the 4D black hole is even denser. With so much energy and force released from that first collision of opposite singularities, the leftover matter sucked in expanded out instead of staying a singularity at the 'polar end' of the 4D black hole. The matter was thus able to escape its point of origin of the first polar end, and made it far enough that the opposite polar end of the black hole began to pull us towar…
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Robert Dicke - Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:22:31 EST cTrnVs8H No.55735 Reply
>>55733

Why don't you go to school to be a theoretical physicist and then YOU will be that somebody in the field.
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Pierre-Simon Laplace - Sun, 04 Oct 2015 17:54:10 EST N+uGi0dP No.55739 Reply
>>55721
can I ask if this fits along with an idea I had where all the planets are mathematically "flat" but they bend away from you the further you go from them?

Like those old drawings of a series of flat disks on top of each other but there are 4D ways to transition from any disk to any other disk without having to go through them (going around planets after they appear sphere like due to distance bending)

I tried

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- Sun, 27 Sep 2015 23:01:19 EST NCcXgNdu No.55692
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✓ Overcast
✓ Too late to set up tracking
✓ Sensor needs cleaning
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Viktor Ambartsumian - Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:29:43 EST 9+WA5MM9 No.55725 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Margaret Burbidge - Sun, 04 Oct 2015 06:22:01 EST UwTIku3P No.55737 Reply
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>>55692
>Using ✓s instead of s
Ban this heretic
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George Gamow - Sun, 04 Oct 2015 12:53:54 EST NCcXgNdu No.55738 Reply
>>55717
Satellites would only appear to move in one direction. It was probably some high altitude aircraft or weather balloon.

In the year 2069

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- Thu, 01 Oct 2015 01:09:01 EST WHXsRUFD No.55722
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If humans are going to build a city on the moon this century it should definitely be done in 2069, if they do it in 2068 or 2070 instead it will go to waste.

It'll go down as a historical fact until the end of time that the City/Colony was founded in 2069. IMO Earth's Moon is the most romantic spot in our galaxy so it might as well be associated with 69ing.

Becoming a multiplanet species, breaking free from nations.

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- Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:52:15 EST P+fSJ1RL No.55648
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I want to start a discussion of becoming a multiplanet species. Weather that be on Mars, or one of the many Earth sized exo planets. for those let's assume a way to use the Alcubeirre equations has been invented To me moving out of our home planet is an inevitability. What I'm not so sure on is our penchant for clinging to imagined borders.

What is it going to take to break free from that? I could see Mars ending up being its own nationality so to speak. From a governance stand point I can see the practicallity, each planet will mostly be responsible for running it self. The alternative or events leading to that style would be akin to the Roman empire becoming too big to manage.

So yeah, general ideas, hopes, anticipation for how things will be. Discuss becoming a multiplanet species and the evolution of governance that will soon follow.
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!qCv3kE3pMI - Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:27:37 EST M7NMNbPp No.55675 Reply
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gas vapor fed plants and printed meals, who wants to go there when being there is "there"?

p.s. nanana
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Daniel Kirkwood - Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:09:14 EST P+fSJ1RL No.55676 Reply
>>55675
It sounds like a dim prospect. But with enough off hours with allowances for extra activities and maybe even EVAs for no O2 worlds. Could be fun, might be covered by shitty mega corps, but those involved will have to know that they signed up to head a new place to live. They get to forge a new planetary culture, even one day claim sovereignty. The galaxy is a large place and likely hard to govern.
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Bernard-Ferdinand Lyot - Mon, 28 Sep 2015 00:42:00 EST AlxomEpB No.55698 Reply
>>55673
Might not be a corporation though. It could be ideological or some psudeo religious movement.

First telescope

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- Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:34:55 EST 6SPuxxpR No.55682
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Hello, I'm looking for some advice for a first time telescope buyer. I was thinking about buying the Celestron 76mm Firstscope as its not to expensive and if I find that if astrology is not for me it's not really a big loss. Any advice or other telescopes would be great thanks.
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Allan Sandage - Sat, 26 Sep 2015 04:08:14 EST NCcXgNdu No.55686 Reply
Dobsonians are going to be the best bang per buck. The larger the aperture, the more light gathering capability it will have. Plan to spend several thousand dollars for astrophotography minus the SLR or CCD to take pictures with. The mount is almost more important than the scope here. A heavy GOTO mount (equatorial pref) with tracking capability is important for taking long exposures although you can take many shorter exposure images and stack them in Photoshop. Store bought refractors are generally garbage. If you really want to go that route Explore Scientific makes some nice refractors. Newtonians are a different story. My nephew's other pop bought him a store bought Celestron Astromaster, and although the mount could blow over like a leaf, the optics on the scope were pretty good. Dobsonians are Newtonians on a lazy Susan like bottom mount with two forks. You can get a large aperture here for comparatively very little cash. The only downside is that it doesn't really lock in place. Besides refractors and newtonians, there are catadioptric cassegrains. These are reflectors like the newtonian, but they are compact and expensive.

tldr: the AstroMaster 114EQ is $200 at opticsplanet.com
Eyepieces cost $50 dollars. Don't start off with a scope that costs the same as an eyepiece.

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