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- Fri, 17 Jan 2020 23:41:50 EST Q2er1WFU No.57963
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This is probably pretty dumb or has already been proposed but what if large masses move space along with them?
I've had the idea after stirring my coffee, noticing that if you didn't know about the coffee you'd wonder why the cream won't stop rotating.
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James Christy - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:57:22 EST Q2er1WFU No.57964 Reply
>>57963
On the left we see what galaxies should look like according to our understanding of gravity, on the graph, distance to the center and velocity. On the right is what we observe. They should flung apart at this speed.
In my allegory the coffee is space and the galaxy is the cream.
The more I think about it, tho more sense it does make.
Someone please tell me im wrong to get my small troubled mind a little ease or tell me where to pick up my honour and glory.
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Thomas Henderson - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 06:12:35 EST i9bBRhbc No.57965 Reply
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>>57964
But if I stir the coffee strong enough all off the cream goes to the outer skirts of the cup? Or is it the center?

Idk, IIRC large masses don't really move spacetime around them, they just "deform" it, thus causing gravity.

I'm at least as dumb as you on the subject tho
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Thomas Henderson - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 06:12:35 EST i9bBRhbc No.57966 Reply
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>>57964
But if I stir the coffee strong enough all off the cream goes to the outer skirts of the cup? Or is it the center?

Idk, IIRC large masses don't really move spacetime around them, they just "deform" it, thus causing gravity.

I'm at least as dumb as you on the subject tho
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Heinrich Olbers - Wed, 29 Jan 2020 20:40:48 EST EZOyjhDZ No.57972 Reply
>>57969
If you poke into a piece of cloth and twist it it will follow that and make a spiral pattern. The harder you poke the more friction and the more it will be affected.
And space is a little bit more like jello in that regard.
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Johan Galle - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 07:18:09 EST /rWGv48K No.57974 Reply
nigga you got a 50% black matter existance and you can feel the dual you touching urself like a mirror and you use the higgs field to call things in2 existance
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Annie Cannon - Wed, 08 Apr 2020 12:27:17 EST 0faxo4BS No.58041 Reply
>>57975
>they have instead modified Newton's laws of gravity.
>let's change the known laws of physics, so we can be right

I'm pretty dumb and might be wrong, but that just seems pretty stupid
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Harlow Shapley - Sun, 19 Apr 2020 02:46:33 EST n+7z5RVF No.58050 Reply
>>58041
I'm absolutely talking out my ass here because I did not and almost certainly won't check out that sciencedaily.com link, but aside from my ignorance on that point, I'm sure I don't need to remind you that adjusting the model to fit the data is exactly how science is supposed to work and that multiple models can support the existing data and yet make predictions that differ, sometimes radically, between the models.
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Johann Encke - Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:02:02 EST iJcoyZ+q No.58052 Reply
Dark Matter is weird
The Universe works in weird ways
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Edward Pickering - Thu, 14 May 2020 21:13:32 EST R+NnEwcz No.58065 Reply
>>58050
I wanted to say something negative about your post, but my tolerance is gone apparently and I think you are probably right here... though I suspect that whatever the greater topic is, you are likely wrong. Though, the point of science is to always get praised when you find out you are wrong, before someone else finds that out first.
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Edward Pickering - Thu, 14 May 2020 21:14:37 EST R+NnEwcz No.58066 Reply
>>58052
Dark matter is just a numerical placeholder to keep models working for unrelated tasks.
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Henrietta Levitt - Fri, 29 May 2020 12:46:30 EST X5wvlBRg No.58080 Reply
>>58066
i have better matter promise. extra dimensions are real pockets deep
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Urbain Le Verrier - Thu, 16 Jul 2020 23:18:01 EST zhzC7ZYp No.58117 Reply
>>57963

This is true, they actually just voted on this down at Science HQ
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Riccardo Giacconi - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:05:15 EST 1EE90yn1 No.58120 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Tycho Brahe - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 02:20:08 EST 1fA9YPd3 No.58212 Reply
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>>57963
>On the left we see what galaxies should look like according to our understanding of gravity, On the right is what we observe

It's kind of like a car traveling doing 30mph and hitting a wall, vs two cars going at each other at 30mph. The two cars' speed both driving towards each other will the impact seem like its 60mph, and thus will seem to be moving faster. On the edges the stars aren't under as much gravity from each other so they're slowly making they're way until they're feeling each others' gravity more and more to increase the velocity.

>I have no idea if this is right, I'm just pretty high. I was a total burnout in science classes, but I wish I wasn't lol
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Jan Hendrik Oort - Mon, 21 Feb 2022 08:53:05 EST VRP03RAU No.58268 Reply
The mass of energy making up the Galaxy had spinning inertia during it's original conception, and it's simply maintaining it's own momentum. It's a single system in that it shares the same mathematical/energetic origin and the evidence of this is obvious by observing it moving as one mass. The picture on the left is a basic misunderstanding of cosmology and physics. It is looking at the stars around the Galaxy as mere debris and studying it as of the center mass of the Galaxy should be effecting this external debris.

I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about, but I highly doubt this is a real debate in the way it has been presented here.
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