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>>The fuck do you know about magnetism and gravity? More than you, apparently.
>> Literally every single body in the universe, influences every other one to some degree. Yeah no shit. We can detect the gravitational influence of quasars hundreds of millions of lightyears away, but that doesn't mean they have a direct influence on our lives that's greater than the earth, moon, and sun. The way the constellations affect us is in the way we are aware of them -- what we see of them, and how we interpret that metaphysically. They are a representation of deeper events that has a momentum of its own, which is for example why you may still find you are very much your tropical rather than sidereal sign. The amount of direct physicalistic magnetic and gravitic influence the literal constellations have on us is so small the natural human senses (and even our 'esp' electromagnetic sense) can't detect it.
An Aries solar natal for example is still undeniably a specific phenomena, so there must be a cause that's something beyond the physical location of stars; a metaphysical truth. Thinking astrology is actually about the literal stars and is not instead a spiritual narrative communicated to us through the symbols of celestial bodies is to me kind of a materialist idolatry. It elevates mere matter to divine status; which is backwards from what was originally intended. I have no problem with elevating matter to divinity per se, but you need to include all matter if you do
>>Procession: a number of people or vehicles moving forward in an orderly fashion, especially as part of a ceremony or festival.Uh yeah uh no. So, the point of that being that if you believe tropical astrology is accurate (which I do, more or less) and you're also literate in astronomy, you need to account for those facts (which yes, has been known for a long time, there are plenty of formulations of astrology which account for it, but they aren't the ones popularly used. inb4 vedic sidereal which isn't as useful for the western magickian.)
>>Precession: the slow movement of the axis of a spinning body around another axis due to a torque (such as gravitational influence) acting to change the direction of the first axis.
>>No, they were struggling desperately to leave information for future generationsThe mark of a true holy text is that it will give to the highest and the lowest exactly what they individually need. Yes, they were passing on information, some intended for the outer, some intended for the inner. That's the 'hiding' bit. However, the average level of the human mind has elevated, (even as our spiritual condition has perhaps worsened) so aspects of the 'text' of astrology that were formerly quite opaque to the average person are now the kind of things I think any responsible person preaching modern astrology should be versed on. This is what I meant by it being a 'hidden psychology.' Those who have ears will hear, as ever.
>>Haha YO ddawg learn some science read the literature cause it's quite openly factual that we are effected by magnetic fields.Yeah man, the magnetic fields of the earth, planets and sun. Notice I very carefully said constellations, talking about distant stars. Of course magnetic fields affect us, the ones which we are within, of the earth and sun. But genuine astrology, the interaction between the angular position of the earth viz. the planets/moon/sun, and the outer rim of the zodiac and the subtle correspondence of that with the unfolding of human affairs is a spiritual reality caused by a deeper truth, the seemingly random motions of the actual physical celestial bodies is just like a shadow of that, not the light source itself. i.e. astrology is not the same as pseudo-astronomy, it represents its own discourse of ideas that has largely been snuffed out by the commercialization of astrology. Which is why you both got so huffy about me articulating something relatively uncontroversial among serious astrologers.