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I said read the Bible because he's talking about Judeo-Christian ideas which he apparently only has a superficial opinion of, like so many people who hate it.
It's easy to pull ideas and context and twist things around or just listen to hypocrites who spout on about religion and claim to be representative of it, yet who don't seem to actually follow what it tells us to do by any means.
Or they'll be indulgent in a life of sin, without remorse or any attempt to really clarify their hypocrisy to themselves or surrender to the Lord or embetter themselves.
If you read the Gospels and still tell me that the Lord is vindictive and petty then you miss the completely miss the point and never reach past a superficial understanding of how you are wrong and how God is good and that you are unable to understand his way.
Now, you may not even thing that's something truthful, but the concept of the religion is based on this sort of surrender, so don't try and tell me about the religion if you never understood that and just thought it was all about you and your superficial sense of comforts and all that.
So many unconnected religions are about this sort of surrender to a higher power and understanding than our own, and realizing that we don't understand it through our simple human nature and our own earthly desires.
Take the example of Hinduism if you are just too angry at Judeo-Christian believe to even attempt to understand it. In Hinduism, ones Darma is their very personal relationship with God, and we may all be at different levels and places of our spiritual journey, or in a different sort of relationship at this point in terms of actually trying to experience and comprehend God and our nature. So maybe we all need to be broken down in different ways in order to come to understand and supplicate to God, not in words or superficial sentiments, but in complete honesty and deep truth within ourselves and without the hypocrisy of pretending like we understand it but actually just trying to fool ourselves and God even if we do have faith, or at least to come to at one point experience a loving relationship with God (even if we are still imperfect, but willing to accept greater responsibility for our actions and try to perceive the greater perspective than our own earthy based one that is just focused on ego and comforts and concepts such as personal pride and honor rather than forgiveness and love and supplication to the greater truth and good that is beyond us)/
As I mentioned in my previous comment, what if reincarnation is real? And what if our suffering is only a speck of existence in a cycle of many many lives. Lives that at the end will result in our soul being purified, in order that we may finally come to not be thrown out by a truly loving and omnipotent and omnipresent existence such as that of God.
Just as how it is so hard for so many of us to understand parenting until we are in those shoes, and think that our parents just want us to suffer and that they hate us. In reality, that suffering is often beneficial to our growth. It was never about suffering itself, but about the growth that comes as a result of enduring and in being broke down time and time again and given the chance to rebuild our humility and understanding from more mature points of view.
Maybe you'll need to be broken down a million times before you finally "get it", but that doesn't mean God is petty or vindictive or unloving, but rather the opposite, and even more loving than a parent in that God may be unwilling to allow you to give up on this struggle, just as God may refuse to give up on your give up on you,
I also don’t personally agree with all Judeo--Christian perspectives and ideas, but if that’s the perspective that the OP wants to argue from, then we can argue about that from the philosophical standpoint and what we have perceived been able to receive from the doctrines that relate back to the ideas he is espousing.
My base argument here is really if God really does exist, and is all good and also entirely omnipotent as we are told to believe in these doctrines, then it logically follows that we may not be even better capable of comprehending all of the reasons for this existence is the way it is.
Maybe through surrender to God we could come to a better understanding of this, or at least finally experience a spiritual relief beyond our human senses, in the surrender to, and acceptance and humility of the things such as our personal relationship with God, things we may never be able to understand from the human perspective in this existence alone. User is currently banned from all boards