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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

What have I got here?

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- Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:58:07 EST SVefPavO No.77797
File: 1459731487924.jpg -(2704061B / 2.58MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What have I got here?
I stumbled upon this bunch of labware from this old dude I've been working for. I'm not sure what all the components are. Aside from basic college chemistry and a couple DMT extractions, I'm pretty much a layman in the chemistry field. But I hope to do something with it, or at least know what its all used for. Any of you science types able to help me identify these?
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Archie Finningtot - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 07:38:18 EST SVefPavO No.77811 Reply
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>>77801
Thanks for the input guys. It looks like i've got a decent setup for clandestine chemistry, its a shame that I probably wont be able to put it to full use. Would some of this be easy/lucrative to sell on CL or something? I have a second separatory funnel and a stand as well that I didn't picture.

I got all this stuff for free, it was just sitting in this guys attic collecting dust and rat shit. If i don't sell it, I'll likely incorporate it into a mixed media art piece, or maybe make molds of some parts and cast copies in ceramic.
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 12:09:50 EST YuS+YrwH No.77812 Reply
>>77811
isnt lab glassware considered drug paraphenilia or something like that in some parts of the us? i cant recall, maybe im just paranoid

check CL and ebay for an idea of how much you can charge.
i guess you could easily get a hundred bucks, maybe more if you play your cards right and arent in a rush. i have no idea how negiotiating on CL works though
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Ian Claydock - Sun, 10 Apr 2016 14:59:36 EST roMD3xgx No.77820 Reply
>>77812

Chemists are witches out to stir up trouble in the public with their evil craft.

I want to see what the poop sees

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- Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:48:51 EST ANui6f84 No.77694
File: 1456346931839.jpg -(20795B / 20.31KB, 500x375) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I want to see what the poop sees
How can I turn shit into enegergy I was thinking like a 3 meter dome, shiphon the shit from the sewer before those basteds that fired me from the sewage plant can get there dirty hands all over it, the pretty much lite the gas on fire and covert a diesel generator to take gas, how would one do that?
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 18:36:42 EST ax6SYN1K No.77698 Reply
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>>77697
that idea seems very familiar. almost as if its been out into practise for decades.
its a great way to put waste to use

also JENKS REAL!
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John Gebberwater - Fri, 08 Apr 2016 02:32:24 EST sIdNWEOq No.77817 Reply
>>77747
That's like one time I splid spot remover on my dog and now he's gone... Lol

substitute

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- Sat, 02 Apr 2016 19:43:27 EST CVyPUaOx No.77791
File: 1459640607157.jpg -(18302B / 17.87KB, 525x521) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. substitute
ok guys what could I use instead of palladium (II) chloride for catalisys?

this chemical is FUCKING expensive
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Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Tue, 05 Apr 2016 02:21:59 EST Ym/MkWsP No.77805 Reply
>>77804
nope. palladium black will not do the trick because it requires an oxidation cycle like the regular inert metal coupling reactions.

looks like you're stuck with palladium chloride or find another method.
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Ru-lover - Thu, 07 Apr 2016 13:52:58 EST XzFsS2/x No.77813 Reply
try to look on alibaba or other B2B, PdCl2 is 5-10x less expensive there than Sigma or other companies. PdCl2 is a well known product and purity is always good even it comes from china.

Reactions with Tosylates

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- Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:51:42 EST YfH8FcVI No.77768
File: 1458895902478.png -(12654B / 12.36KB, 200x154) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Reactions with Tosylates
Out of curiosity, would it be possible to react a primary amine with a sulfonyl group (tosylate specifically) and then subsequently use a base followed by a nucleophilic substitution with, say, iodomethane to produce a secondary amine?
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Ru-lover - Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:15:51 EST 1yz9Gpwk No.77778 Reply
>>77768
Yes you can. The sulfonyl group makes the H more acidic and thus easier to deprotonate. It also locks the nitrogen lone pair avoiding overalkylation.

Help an unmotivated loser out

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- Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:00:53 EST hqftNCGp No.77783
File: 1459537253692.gif -(11030B / 10.77KB, 197x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Help an unmotivated loser out
I realise that this board is mostly used for instructions on how to make drugs in your fucking garage, but since this is also a science board I thought that I would ask you brilliant minds for help.
I have a upcoming project, spanning a year or so, that will entail/connect almost every course I am taking. I am supposed to pick something to create, experiment, etc. and present the result to my professor(s) and peers.
I have seen dudes investigate pharmacuticals, tried to treat salmonella by destroying its flagella with enzymes, etc.
What the hell am I supposed to do?
I might be given access to chemicals, but I do not want to make drugs, even though that would be sweet.
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Alice Bicklechot - Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:32:24 EST NPdGYjgm No.77786 Reply
>>77783
Is there anything else than sweet sweet drugs that you are even slightly interested in? Preferably something to do with making the world a better place. Great grades coming easily if you do some shit to help african children or make an anti hangover pill.
Start with something not so specific that interests you, do some investigation and then get closer and closer to your ideea until you are drinking champange from a nobel prize while popping anti hangover pills that help african children.

A. muscaria - complete decarboxylation of ibotenic acid to muscimol

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- Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:28:40 EST ge3zUrSE No.77751
File: 1458232120013.jpg -(80063B / 78.19KB, 511x487) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. A. muscaria - complete decarboxylation of ibotenic acid to muscimol
I have a chemistry related question for you.

I've read in two separate sources that it is possible to decompose all the ibotenic acid in the muscarias to muscimol by boiling it in a very low pH solution (2.7). One source seems to have used HCl to achieve this. I was wondering if this would be possible to achieve using household vinegar or citric acid.

5% household vinegar seems to have a pH of 2.4, but acetic acid has a low vapour pressure, so boiling vinegar would vapourize acetic acid with water. apart from making your house smell, vapourising acetic acid would drive the pH of the solution higher, so you might need to add more vinegar to the pot regularly.

However, attempting the same with citric acid seems to be more straightforward since citric acid doesn't vapourise as readily. You can just add water to the boiling solution to cover for evaporation losses and be fine. Lemon juice is said to have a pH around 2, and you can calculate the pH of a solution from the amount of citric acid you add so it should work.

After 2.30 - 3 hours of boiling, you can just add some sodium carbonate to neutralize the pH in order to make it more palatable, and filter to remove leftover carbonate/mushroom pieces, and drink. I'm pretty certain this step wouldn't alter the structure of muscimol.

The conversion from ibotenic acid to muscimol seems to be dependent on pH, so I think it should be possible, but I don't have enough chemistry knowledge to say or certain. What do you think?

If this works, this could be used as a very easy homemade tek for preparing Amanitas.

Pic related, ibotenic acid converts to muscimol after boiling at low pH.

This is the paper;

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-4159.1985.tb04052.x/abstract

just copy and paste that link to sci-hub.io to get the full text.

and this is a patent on the same topic

https://www.google.com/patents/US20140004084

Learning chemistry online

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- Sat, 12 Mar 2016 03:40:46 EST KCS86o4a No.77741
File: 1457772046410.jpg -(15807B / 15.44KB, 559x327) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Learning chemistry online
Hey guys,

I want to get into chemistry. Can you recommend some good, free online courses or something? Or maybe some book(s) that is good for a self-learner? The site study.com offers a free 5 day trial (afterwards the cheapest thing is $50/month which isn't bad), I will give that one a go. On this other site, alison.com are some free courses of introduction to chemistry, which is exactly what I'm looking for, but it looks like these are only videos, I'd rather have something like videos and presentations/written text so I can re-read it and learn it.. you know, just like in college. Yeah I could make my own notices while watching the videos but fuck that noise, I hate making notices. Any suggestions?
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Hannah Tootgold - Sat, 12 Mar 2016 17:37:00 EST xxs07y/f No.77742 Reply
Kahn Academy

General and organic chem text books. do the practice problems
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Fuck Chondlegold - Mon, 14 Mar 2016 03:11:44 EST hqftNCGp No.77745 Reply
>>77741
khan academy will have all the chem high school courses
only thing is you wont be able to make cool experiments and shit
schools got access to some sweet fucking chems, dude
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Samuel Pibberbutch - Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:16:59 EST ybs70zkB No.77746 Reply
>>77742
thanks man, I'll check it out

>>77745
yeah I know, but I already finished one college and I just started at a new job, I don't have the time right now to start another college. Besides, I don't remember shit from the high school chemistry, so this is a great start for me.


can you id this?

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- Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:32:49 EST wC5/3Op6 No.76238
File: 1426177969958.jpg -(198139B / 193.50KB, 808x1078) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. can you id this?
saw this written down somewhere
curious to what it is
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Priscilla Huttingtotch - Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:38:54 EST 5P3qbCIv No.77736 Reply
>>76276
The picture is from Finland. "Tarjous pizza" means "cheap pizza" roughly translated from finnish to english.
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Jenny Binnersetch - Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:39:50 EST imwkOt2v No.77740 Reply
>>76273
Maybe it's supposed to be beta-keto-dmt. Like Bk-2cb but with dmt.

Fun chemistry experiments

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- Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:32:27 EST hqftNCGp No.77699
File: 1456788747344.jpg -(117534B / 114.78KB, 474x325) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Fun chemistry experiments
I remember as a kid I used to mix mr muscle containing NaOH, aluminium and water. A strong exothermic reaction occurs by mixing the NaOH and water. Adding the aluminium instantly reacts with the solution and creates hydrogen gas.
Me and my friends had a blast doing it when we compressed it in a regular old plastic PET bottle (get the pun?)

Are there any similair experiments that causes the same kind of explosive result (made from homemade stuff of course)?

I've heard something about El Dorado soap but idk

I can't really make nitro glycerin like that cool youtube chemist because I don't have access to nitric acid, etc.

And no, officer, I am not a terrorist
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:06:33 EST bRQD0jr4 No.77718 Reply
>>77710
ethanol vapours in a bottle.

just put a small volume of pure ethanol in a big container and shake it around, then wait a bit and light away.

you could use other solvents but it wouldnt look as blue. im also not responsible if you blow yourself up.

Predicting NMR

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- Thu, 03 Mar 2016 04:05:56 EST EP6hRsTc No.77706
File: 1456995956620.jpg -(347960B / 339.80KB, 612x700) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Predicting NMR
What does Anon use to predict NMR?
I'm currently using Mestrenova which is a step-up from ChemDraw but still lackluster.
I'm looking for something that doesn't need to run on a server farm but is still decent enough to serve as a guideline when interpreting spectra.

Oxycodone Reactions Summed up Neatly

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!lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:04:57 EST V1Ngvki3 No.77560
File: 1453669497671.jpg -(32885B / 32.11KB, 500x387) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Oxycodone Reactions Summed up Neatly
Okay, so we had a failure with the reactions of oxycodone with a fucked up friend of mine a while back. He had given me some failed hydrogenated species of 14-hydroxycodeinone which was one of the weirdest highs I have ever experienced in my life. I think I took around 25mg of it.
I think that was a weird kappa-agonist with some mu-effects.

Regardless, a few things that make the last thread obsolete are as follows:
  1. 14-hydroxylation of any morphinan requires the double bond at the 7th position for the enol to occur. Otherwise, the oxyacid cannot form the tertiary alcohol due to lack of reactivity.
  2. Acetic protection group seems to be the easiest way to create 14-hydroxy on the morphinan groups. It has the most yield if not starting from thebaine. The next best thing would be an annoying Cobalt (III) salt which I never knew existed. It seems like this unstable salt can be used as a catalyst for codeinone > hydroxycodeinone. But it's really annoying to make.
With no protection, the yield is an atrocious 20%. With the protection, you can get the yield up to 80%.
3. Almost all side reaction waste products are water soluble after basifying. Unless you're unlucky, there is little requirement for columns during these reactions.
4. You cannot avoid hydrogenation if making oxy from cod.

In summary, unless you want to follow the method step by step on the erwoid page that summarises Codeine > Oxycodone, you won't produce nearly the same results with the available chemicals.
With no protection, you could easily achieve a 20% yield of oxycodone from codeine.

He's also currently working on a more efficient method to oxidise codeine to codeinone (hopefully using bleach and vinegar), a more efficient method to hydrogenate, as well as a better peroxy-acid to put the 14-hydroxy group on.

Pic related. Artefacts. We need those 1900 German artefacts that tell us how to morphine.
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Bombastus !lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:44:30 EST sqhxA+9X No.77686 Reply
>>77685
Yes and it turned me gay. Successful I'd say might do it again one day.
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Ian Begglestone - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:47:37 EST VuOwbgQK No.77687 Reply
>>77686
Ok if your really gay then where did you hide your gay gold?
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Henry Pombleson - Tue, 23 Feb 2016 14:20:24 EST uPn+UTf4 No.77689 Reply
>>77686
How did u purify that shit from the rest of the chemicals lmao

VM&P Naphtha

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- Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:15:21 EST u4vCvpNb No.77376
File: 1447866921478.jpg -(91226B / 89.09KB, 720x900) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. VM&P Naphtha
What exactly is VM&P Naphtha? You most likely know it's used for the extraction of DMT, but it's not really accessible if you don't live in America.
Some guides say you can use basic paint thinner. Is that true?
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Ebenezer Sunderwill - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:48:38 EST cKZnkWSj No.77682 Reply
>>77681
Those Dutch Madrasas can't possibly be any good at teaching science, I thought that all European schools tought was pansy social awareness crap?
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Bombastus !lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:57:33 EST Ko/zFYye No.77683 Reply
Hahaha I huff paint thinner
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Phyllis Moblingbodging - Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:01:20 EST TtNn9wfR No.77702 Reply
>>77682
Go fucking kill yourself you fucking the future cocksucker.

New, Novel, Potent Opioids

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!lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 17:39:55 EST ElYFdcKO No.77619
File: 1454625595580.png -(9820B / 9.59KB, 372x408) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. New, Novel, Potent Opioids
Thants (our br/opi/ in Canada) has recently nodded off W-18, which is a totally novel opioids that hasn't seen street time. So /chem/ might as well talk about it.

The current method of synthesis is outlined in patent no. US4468403
>A mixture of 1-phenylethylpiperdylidene-2-(4-chlorophenyl)sulfonamide (1.17 g, 3.11 mmol) W-15, 90% fuming nitric acid (3.0 ml) and concentrated nitric acid (2.0 ml) were stirred vigorously for 4 hours at 25° C.
Preparation of 1-phenylethylpiperdylidene-2-(4-chlorophenyl)sulfonamide is not outlined, unfortunately. But it's pretty easy to figure it out as it's a straight chained molecule.

So uhh ya. W-18. Talk about it. It's legal everywhere except in Sweden right now. I guess that is a thing. It was discovered by Knaus back in the 80s who was a pretty sick guy who liked opioids. He's had a lot of work doing shit like that. Here's some condensed reading:
http://chemistry.mdma.ch/synthforum/about635.html

W-18 is the 18th item on his patent list: http://www.google.com/patents/US4468403
It includes up to 35 different, unscheduled, and very potent, novel opioids that do not rely on the morphinan group. Check em.
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Emma Turveyford - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 12:52:53 EST p0QLwGpF No.77669 Reply
Hi bombastus sorry to bother but did your oxycodone synthesis tek work?
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Bombastus !lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:03:46 EST 4ppVjZXo No.77672 Reply
>>77669
a few friends of mine and me got together a few years ago and made something like 5g and split it evenly. That was a sweet adventure.
That binge and subsequent withdrawals made them almost all give up opioids after that. Which tk did you talk about?
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Lydia Picklock - Thu, 07 Apr 2016 17:59:34 EST IsDQAl0D No.77814 Reply
>>77619


okay well i have experience with butyrfent. all i have to say is be prepared to poke yourself full of holes if IVing. the highs are so cracky that they will have you compulsively redosing every few hours, effectively turning you into a pin cushion until you flush the sheet.

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