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I'm a dumb ass.

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- Fri, 10 Jun 2016 19:04:12 EST zwhzKcaA No.77956
File: 1465599852698.jpg -(106264B / 103.77KB, 720x719) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm a dumb ass.
Why won't my shitty bottle crank fully dry out: It's kind of waxy. Seems acidic. Also burns toward the end of evaporation.
Shit Basslesadge - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 19:27:34 EST zwhzKcaA No.77959 Reply
This is the only time this has occurred; Generally I get a nice fluffy white substance that evaporates cleanly, so I'm a bit confused as to what I changed. Under-reduced?

Future LSD Analogs?

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!jmUcEJD43k!!E9WUPA0s - Fri, 29 Apr 2016 05:18:06 EST 7x9SM9m4 No.77870
File: 1461921486846.jpg -(871740B / 851.31KB, 3354x1758) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Future LSD Analogs?
Hey guys, I had an idea for new possible LSD analogs. All important details are in the attached image, I am curious to see what all your thoughts will be on this!
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Charlotte Shakeham - Sun, 15 May 2016 19:41:26 EST +5AM2MwN No.77891 Reply
Does anyone know how these break down in the body? Probably the one that is most risky is the bromine one. LSD is in microgram doses so this probably isn't a risk but the bromide ion does have a long half-life in the body. As a rough estimate, if someone does 800 000 100 ug blots a day for 12 days straight they might run into problems but maybe I'm missing something.
Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Wed, 25 May 2016 21:10:53 EST G8mu3scS No.77913 Reply
Hey Press. Get over here and check out these N-X bonds (where X-Cl,F,Br,I).

I don't think these would be stable at all. Google the stability of chloramine and their reactions. I know mono-chloro-amine hydrolyses into ammonium and chlorine gas. I don't see how these compounds would be stable given the first chance at a proton source and create the R2N-H bond.

If you want to make it a relatively good leaving group and available for adaptation in the body, I would highly recommend an Acetyl or a Tosyl group on that nitrogen. Tosylic acid is toxic to your kidneys but maybe at light concentrations like 1mg in the blood stream, it could be fine.
I wonder if you could make di-tosylic-morphine as a better alternative to heroin................ hmmmmmmmm.............................................

Organobromides are toxic to your liver and endocrine system. However, aromatic bromides are either excreted in your urine, safely or made into HBr and then NaBr which are safe enough in low concentrations. Not of a concern.
Examples: Bromovanilin, Bromazepam
TheDiggityDank !jmUcEJD43k!!E9WUPA0s - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:48:00 EST aNLlWMG5 No.77953 Reply

Thank you for the thorough explanation! I suspected that might be an issue, but I was just not sure if having the nitrogen of the amine group bonded into a more complex structure, as it is in LSD, would alleviate the issue. I have been looking into other potential LSD analogs, and I have come up with a few interesting hypothetical structures. However, I really do not know enough about lysergamide structural activity relationships to know if they would be active or not.

CWE and saturation

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- Wed, 18 May 2016 13:54:30 EST 9YAuxRQ8 No.77896
File: 1463594070164.jpg -(61049B / 59.62KB, 400x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. CWE and saturation
I've been wondering about some thing regarding CWE. The main point of CWE with products containing APAP seems to be to reduce the amount of APAP in the final product since it seems to be more water soluble than I thought it was. Which means the less water you use and the colder it is, less APAP will be in the final product. Which led me to some questions:

  1. Assuming that you have a drug containing Codeine Phosphate and APAP. Could you, in theory, dissolve the pills in say 10ml of water ("One gram [of Codeine Phosphate ]dissolves in 2.3 ml water,", O'Neil M. J. (ed.), Smith A. (ed.), Heckelman P. E. (ed.)-The Merck Index_ An Encyclopedia of Chemicals, Drugs, and Biologicals (1996)) and have some kind of "super concentrated", crystal clear solute of Codeine Phosphate with a ridiculous low amount of APAP? Or would the filter clog up? Or the solution get over-saturated? Which leads me to my next question

2. Both APAP and Codeine Phosphate are soluble in water. I don't understand the mechanics of dissolution completely but would it be possible to not have any 'space' left to dissolve the Codeine Phosphate? Or does it get dissolved first because it's so much more soluble? Or does it work completely different?

Recrystallizing APAP is a bother to me so by exploiting the great solubility of Codeine Phosphate I could in theory use cold water from the fridge or something. Maybe dissolving the pills in 50ml? Even at 20C this would leave me with 639mg of APAP which is a joke. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol)
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Wed, 08 Jun 2016 16:11:39 EST fcMijPsC No.77946 Reply
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well shit. apparently my version of claydens is too big for 420chan even compressed. a tiny low res pic thats 30mb big is mighty suspicious anyways.

but it shouldnt be too hard to come by
Edward Fanningdodge - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 11:43:00 EST D9t26pna No.77948 Reply
what the fuck is wrong with you

Ant level of consciousness

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- Sun, 05 Jun 2016 20:11:52 EST 92gUf0sA No.77942
File: 1465171912338.gif -(1001210B / 977.74KB, 350x197) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ant level of consciousness
What would it be like to be an ant? Would you "feel" anything? Would you be able to think? Would you know that you're an individual or would you have no free will and just be a little organic robot that does whatever the colony needs?

Theory against science: gravity

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- Tue, 02 Feb 2016 01:26:43 EST vzB5izFF No.77606
File: 1454394403433.jpg -(72701B / 71.00KB, 516x418) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Theory against science: gravity
I have a theory on what could cause gravity that may go against popular science and I was wondering what people may think about it.

Gravity is caused by the sun. It is a condensed ball of molecules that has a reaction happening that need to be fed. It does not burn like a fire because it is an intense chemical reaction, but like a fire it needs to be fed to continue "burning". It pulls matter, including planets, towards it, and as these planets are pulled towards it it is spiraled around the sun, sort of like a toilet flushing. The sun pulls these planets towards it and as they travel towards the sun in a spiral they have a gravity created on them, much like an increase of gravity when you are spun around at a high speed on a park ride or on a astronaut g-force training machine. The gravity of the earth that is created by the sun can also spiral objects towards it, which results in the moon that spirals around the earth (but will eventually will be caught in an orbit and will stay at all times in one part of the earth. Look it up). Perhaps what will happen to the moon will happen to the planets as well, who knows. But this is just a theory that came to my head and that I was wondering what other people thought about.
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Cyril Brookstone - Fri, 06 May 2016 10:27:12 EST 46/eGtv8 No.77881 Reply
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The increase in gravity caused by movement is in fact inertia, and aside from that, their are free agent planets that aren't orbiting any sun and indeed still have gravity.
Nb young einstein do more research before you come up with a theory.
Albert Tillinglock - Mon, 30 May 2016 08:45:50 EST PYwdfvCt No.77933 Reply
This isn't how scientific theories work, theories are based on evidence. This is just some stuff you made up.

LSD and Light Spectrums

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- Mon, 16 May 2016 20:11:19 EST lbU1QW82 No.77892
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I don't understand how during the synth of LSD during a certain part a spectrum of light needs to be present to complete a step.
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Tue, 17 May 2016 17:05:33 EST QpnKQ24z No.77895 Reply
is this some kind of netjester experiment where you try to randomly generate replies?

theres a lot of chemistry that requires certain frequencies of light, but photosensitive chemicals such as lsd require the absence of certain frequencies of light.

you dont need to have certain light in the synth of lsd in order to synth it, you just need to omit certain wavelengths in order not to have it degrade. this kind of shit is why there are a lot of flasks that are made from brown glass.
Ernest Pockham - Wed, 18 May 2016 15:53:33 EST R2l5z5+y No.77897 Reply
Someone I respect said it and I'm like wuuuutt and then I read it as a random post on 4chan so I didn't understand it.

Thanks for clearing it up.
Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Wed, 25 May 2016 20:47:11 EST Ym/MkWsP No.77911 Reply
I believe the synth route calls for a certain wavelength of light in so that you're not working in the dark.
The experimental procedure probably assumes your knowledge of photodegradation and tells you to use x-y spectrum of light because x-z and x-a will degrade it.

For example, if one compound degrades in both UV and IR light, you should avoid light sources that are active in the 200-480nm and 650-900nm region. I would probably write the experimental procedure saying "use this cheap light I can find at Home Depot that only emits light at 550-600nm. This is so that you can still fucking see while doing your reaction.

Anyone know of this or anything similar?

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- Wed, 25 May 2016 16:41:28 EST 9AVsKPcg No.77908
File: 1464208888300.jpg -(93151B / 90.97KB, 526x531) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Anyone know of this or anything similar?

I hope this is a good place to ask this. I'm curious to know if anyone has heard of a med called Proglumide &/or is there a way to obtain it or create it or something similar. I think this med originally started as a stomach med but had the side effect of reversing people's tolly to opi's. From what I can remember reading yrs ago, this med worked best if taken for 3-4 days than take a 2-3 day break from it. Ofcourse it's not scribed anymore. This could be of such great help to the countless amounts of people who have to take opi's every day to deal w/pain. I guess we can thank the govmt or big pharma for taking something like this off the market, money is more important.
So my questions are this, does anyone know if this med can be obtained anywhere &/or could this med be created? Would it be possible to create something like it?
Aside from all the common potentiators I can't think of anything that would actually reverse a tolly to opi's, except in a round about way, DXM.
Thanks so much for any input any one is able to provide!

LSD - need assistance

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- Wed, 27 Apr 2016 00:27:38 EST vl+XBlOj No.77866
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I'm sorry for bringing this here, I already posted it on /b/ and /psy/ but you guys seem like you know what'll dissolve and what'll be absorbed in the stomach.
I purchased LSD last week that's supposed to be dosed at like 300ug, I am concerned about the substance on it though. I trust the person who got the LSD to me but he might have unintentionally given me something not LSD.

What I wanna know is if I swallow the "LSD tab" if the other chemicals will dissolve if it's not actually LSD. A friend and long time psychonaut told me I had nothing to worry about if I just swallowed it. Help me out?
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:53:26 EST QpnKQ24z No.77869 Reply
fucking hold it under UV-light at either 254nm or 366nm (i havent tested any other wavelengths)
if the blotter fluoresces it most likely is LSD or a close relative.
25I-NBOMe does not fluoresce under the same conditions.
Phoebe Sibblepat - Mon, 02 May 2016 15:07:58 EST 46/eGtv8 No.77876 Reply
Buy a regent test kit mango. It won't tell if its LSD but it will tell you if its not at least a lysergemid. Most lysergemids are about a physicslly beign as LSD anyways
Nb belongs on /psy/
Charlotte Shakeham - Sun, 15 May 2016 19:32:45 EST +5AM2MwN No.77890 Reply
Isn't LSD really strong and easily absorbable. If you eat and don't just put it on your tongue won't you get really fucking high?

Future and Drug Safety

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- Tue, 10 May 2016 16:22:29 EST SBkA/DrJ No.77882
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Is this the right place to ask this sort of thing?
I'm doing some research for a novel, and I have some questions about the future of drugs. My story is set in 2035. E-cigarettes, driverless cars etc are a lot more common, and as such smoking and alcohol related deaths are significantly less common. As such, what drugs will be more dangerous? Less dangerous?
I imagine some labmonkeys make opiates consumable through vaping. I also imagine some entirely new substances are discovered and there's a resurgence of drug paranoia/phobia as people begin to take these new and strange substances.
What do you think?
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Tue, 10 May 2016 17:43:02 EST QpnKQ24z No.77885 Reply
wouldnt this be a /lit/ thread?

sorry, im a wee bit too tired. nb
Fucking Crollernutch - Tue, 10 May 2016 18:00:51 EST SBkA/DrJ No.77886 Reply
I'm asking /chem/ as it's a question about speculating the future of drugs and drug forms. If /lit/ can talk chemistry to me, then sure.
Barnaby Pickbanks - Tue, 10 May 2016 21:31:19 EST X4ILJZsh No.77887 Reply
I guess the better question is, what sort of drugs do you expect to become more commonly used in the future? Why?

Low yield nukes

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- Fri, 23 May 2014 06:43:15 EST sBVjj75A No.74752
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>The smallest nuclear weapons actually deployed have had yields around 10 tons (like the W54), and have been intended for short range tactical or nuclear demolition use (e.g. blowing up roads and bridges).

>The absolute minimum possible mass for a bomb is determined by the smallest critical mass that will produce a significant yield. Since the critical mass for alpha-phase plutonium is 10.5 kg, and an additional 20-25% of mass is needed to make a significant explosion, this implies 13 kg or so. A thin beryllium reflector will reduce this, but the necessary high explosive and packaging will add mass, so the true absolute minimum probably lies in the range of 10-15 kg.

>The W54 warhead used in the Davy Crockett had a minimum mass of about 23 kg, and had yields ranging from 10 tons up to 1 kt in various mods (probably achieved by varying the fissile content). The warhead was basically egg-shaped with the minor axis of 27.3 cm and a major axis of 40 cm. The W-54 probably represents a near minimum diameter for a spherical implosion device (the U.S. has conducted tests of a 25.4 cm implosion system however).


Low yield mini nukes. And if you're fretting OMG what if these fell in the wrong hands -

they already have. Pic related.
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Charlotte Crevingchadge - Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:32:38 EST G6JxVMCk No.77827 Reply

Might be relevant in the coming 7 days.


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- Mon, 02 May 2016 12:59:32 EST uYoSzwJB No.77874
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Are you going to be flagged if you try to buy pure acetone online? I imagine store-bought nail polish remover has some contaminants.
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Hugh Clettinggold - Wed, 04 May 2016 12:50:49 EST fh+UlChj No.77877 Reply
Drug store "pure" acetone does have a contaminant, it is bitter flavoring to prevent abuse. As far as I am aware, hardware acetone (sold with paint thinners) is pure enough for most.
press !QUHukXEvkY - Wed, 04 May 2016 13:21:51 EST QpnKQ24z No.77878 Reply
many brands of nail polish removers are ethylethanoate and actually pride themselves in being acetone free around here.

what do you need the acetone for? what purity grade do you need?
and most importantly in what quantities? small orders normally are ignored but if you order a volume above the limit you might draw some attention.
Barnaby Fanshaw - Thu, 05 May 2016 00:04:41 EST zsw9I8fO No.77879 Reply
I need it for doing a wash on drugs. It's okay if it's not 100% anhydrous, but it's the bitterants or other nasty stuff I want to ensure isn't in there.

What about acetone off ebay?

Psychadelic Manufacture

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- Sun, 06 Mar 2016 18:22:20 EST njYbfznv No.77712
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So I've been reading up on manufacturing LSD, and it really doesn't seem that difficult. All over the web you find people who have never made LSD saying it's really difficult, you're going to get yourself killed, etc. The equipment you need doesn't seem difficult to obtain or even expensive. Basic lab glassware & chemicals, pressure cooker for autoclaving, nitrogen, darkroom lights, UV lights, chromatography column & plates. Am I wrong in thinking anyone with some organic chemistry lab experience and fungus cultivation experience should be perfectly able to make LSD?

Yeah some chemicals are closely watched by governments (diethylamine), but from what I've read there's multiple ways to synthesize it, and it shouldn't be too difficult.

Also, why don't we see more pure psilocybin and mescaline? That seems VERY easy to extract. No worrying about decomposition and acquiring/synthesizing watched chemicals. Just get yourself a sox & column?
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Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:37:37 EST b/5qTt5E No.77863 Reply
No. Hypodermic LSD is not a thing. Otherwise the dealer I know who handles all his LSD without gloves would be tripping fucking balls every time he dropped it on the papes.
It was hypothesised that he was handling a lot of it (which he was) and ate some finger food without washing his hands and tripped off that.
press !QUHukXEvkY - Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:41:53 EST QpnKQ24z No.77864 Reply
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he wrote a book about his most famous discovery and all his over research into psychedelics. really recommendable, its a light read and not to heavy on the chemistry side.

would you say that the guy would be hesitant to admit improper technique? back inna day youd still operate a pipete with your mouth or smoke in the lab
perhaps he doesnt remember, which seems plausible after a huge trip.

im very sorry for being a nuissance and a smartass, but it should be transdermal. hypodermic would imply that it was shoved under the skin instead of passing through it on its own.
isnt touching blotters detrimental to their shelf life? not like you should screw in a different light bulb everytime you handle them but gloves arent that hard to come by.
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Tue, 26 Apr 2016 19:53:53 EST uObvI0JQ No.77865 Reply

I've heard a theory that he dosed himself purposefully and lied about it in order to protect his reputation as a research chemist.

Purifying deshcloroketamine

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- Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:23:52 EST oFyUnb48 No.77859
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So I got 10g of deschloroketamine and it's a bit weak. I'd like to purify it further and I'm wondering what you folks would recommend doing. I'm taking ochem now so I know a little bit but not much about this type of stuff, I know with mxe folks just did an acetone wash and I'm wondering if that would still be a good idea for this, or what. No idea what the impurities would be unfortunately, but I doubt it's cut likely just a shitty synth (got it from china). Thanks

Lab equipment value

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- Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:03:17 EST 5P3qbCIv No.77852
File: 1461016997388.jpg -(99067B / 96.75KB, 960x577) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Lab equipment value
How much would be a reasonable price to ask for a set of reagents and chemistry equipment listed below:
>Round bottom flasks: (one neck) 1000ml, (three neck) 250ml, (two neck) 100ml, (one neck) 50ml
>Flat bottom flasks: (one neck) 1000ml, 250ml, 100ml, 50ml
>Handheld vaccuum/pressure pump
>120mm Buchner funnel with fine glass frit
>Plastic volumetric flasks: 250ml (x10), 100ml (x10), 50ml (x10)
>Hotplate with magnetic stirring, in new condition
>Glass gas washing bottle
>200mm Vigreux condenser colum
>200mm Liebig condenser
>60mm glass petri dishes
>100mm plastic petri dishes (x10)
>2ml glass vials (x20)
>120mm glass mortar and pestle
>150mm glass funnel
>125ml separatory funnel
Also there is a bunch of adapers, erlenmeyers, thermomethers, distilling joints, tubing for condenser, stoppers, glass tubing, different size magnets for stirrer, clips for stoppers etc.
Most of the joint sizes are 24/29 and some 24/40.

There is a plenty of reagents but shipping them to a country where they or most of them might be suspicious of even illegal is too much of a hassle. Where I live all of the chemicals and glassware are legal and bought from chemistry companies' outlets. The only one I suppose would be okay to sell abroad is:
>1g lab grade (merck) 10% Pd/C (stored in an amber glass vial)
Then about the reagents... there is something basic like:
>Formic acid
>c. HCl
>Glacial acetic acid
>Drying agents
etc. etc.
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:18:26 EST xFG0CGS+ No.77853 Reply
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what country do you live in?

if you live in germany or austria id recommend selling the glassware on ebay. that normally gets you an okay price, though you might have to bundle up the smaller stuff. you could compose "destillation sets", and sell the bigger flasks seperately.
depending on the brand you could get a hundred quids upwards for the hotplate

as you said, selling the reagents would be too much of a hassle
but if youre in europe id like to know who sold you the Pd/C.
id give you ten bucks for the Pd/C unless its still factory sealed.
Cornelius Pedgewell - Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:50:28 EST De32qNxz No.77854 Reply
Just look up comparable stuff on ebay, but your most valuable piece is propably the 1l flasks because of hipster appeal and the stirrer.
All the other stuff i have seen for under 50eur
Selling reagents is not worth the trouble, no matter where you are, if its really legal theres no way to make a profit.

Id keep it tho, put it in storage and wait until you can use it again. Anyone who owns such a collection wont give up on the work forever, not for a woman.

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