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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Dutchsinse mentioned the chan websites so I'm gonna post

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- Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:14:28 EST LvZjcpdi No.78972
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR4w0Yy85jA
I've been watching a cool youtube channel about plate tectonics affecting earthquake and volcanoes. Largely from seeing how they can effect the weather and cause massive climactic changes that significantly effected peoples in the far ancient past....anyway he mentioned telling people on the future about it. I don't go to the future anymore because its all porn and you can't have a meaningful conversation, whereas 420chan you can and people here tend to be woke a f as well as baked a f. I am currently ripped and decided to post it here along with an obscure Byzantine meme.
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Katsuragi !/pe1aKvMmQ - Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:38 EST 4Q6JexVr No.79136 Reply
>>78972
All of your chans are ridiculous. Not even funny, bad simulation. I don't like it.

Alternatives...

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- Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:12:19 EST +YUSEic8 No.78910
File: 1510971139080.jpg -(153912B / 150.30KB, 800x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Alternatives...
I've been on 420chan for a long time, and so i ask this with respect. Is there a better place that some of the more serious chemists here talk about things?

Not to hate on 420chan but I feel like there may be better places to discuss chemistry with people who are like minded. Perhaps IRC?
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press !AX.nZBombY - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:08:50 EST urbKaVqv No.78956 Reply
>>78946
are you sure its unregulated and unwatched? that seems suspicious.
in germany we have multiple watch lists, some of which are "volunatrily" followed by suppliers.

id love me some, all youd need would be some hydrogen and Pd, but ill stick with postponing my "mescaline from baking aroma, antiseptic and rc fuel" pipedream for now
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Bombastus Werrywag - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 16:46:24 EST uvAHW/WE No.78963 Reply
>>78956
Yes. It's not specifically banned by anything I know of. He's been slowly taking a few mgs from it from work every every week and throwing it in a pile at his house. I can tell him to sell it on ebay or on his local craiglist, too. Probably among some other research chemicals used for plastics and vinyls as he does that for a hobby in his barren wasteland of a house in my barren wasteland of a town in the giant barren wasteland that is Canada.
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Cornelius Bunham - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:17:09 EST hBAZGxou No.78967 Reply
Learn to speak Russian

Mercury Storage

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- Thu, 04 Jan 2018 19:11:36 EST UniRKo9r No.78958
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sup /chem/

I have a small elements collection and I needed to know about the storage of a small amount of mercury...

I have (attached) glass vial bought from Hobby Lobby for like 2$. I am wondering if it would hold a small amount of mercury. We're talking 5mL maximum, probably less (may fill up an inch of the bottom of the vial). The top glass cork will be wrapped with a few layers of parafilm from my lab. It will be on a sort of "display" shelf, not behind any glass but out of reach to be knocked over. I am more worried about the vapors that could possibly form over time than any spillage.

Any input would be appreciated,
Thanks
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press !AX.nZBombY - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 15:20:50 EST 4D6UnT/b No.78960 Reply
id get a thinner container to let it show more of its shiny toxicity, and maybe get something threaded. doesnt look as chemistry-y but itd be much more convenient

you could store it under mineral oil to reduce oxidation and evaporation

BORN TO DIE //
ORGANO MERCURY IS A FUCK //
i am neurotox man //
410,757,864,530 DEAD CHEMISTS
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Bombastus Werrywag - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 16:42:53 EST uvAHW/WE No.78961 Reply
>>78958
get yourself these
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-13x100mm-Laboratory-Glass-Test-Tube-OD-13mm-Length-100mm-My-Glassware/122740044048?hash=item1c93e07110:g:WakAAOSw4~VZgrKl

and seal the ends using a propane torch. look up "ampoule sealing"

That way you can still play around with the mercury in a fun size. When not in use, wrap the test tube in a piece of aluminum foil coated bubble wrap insert. If the mercury escapes, it'll go right into the aluminum which will make it less hazardous as it's a mercury capture mechanism. For spills, use powdered sulfur. You can buy that on ebay in like 100g quantities.
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Cornelius Dummlelare - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 02:26:09 EST UniRKo9r No.78965 Reply
>>78960
>>78961
Thank you for the replies. I ordered myself some of the shown test tubes and am not sure how long they will take to arrive to me. I currently have a very small amount (barley covering the bottom) held in the glassware shown, with several layers of parafilm and it is being kept outside. I believe this should sufficiently hold until I am able to make ampules.

Cheers

I do a lot of cough syrup

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- Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:30:22 EST yfT/VnIi No.78884
File: 1508790622871.jpg -(1441692B / 1.37MB, 2550x3300) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I do a lot of cough syrup
i am artist who does a lot of dissocitatives

dissociatives involve a lot of nonsense
i have no talent in chemistry but i wanted to show you this
this KLSSTR is nonsense (benzene?)

but alas
alchemy is the precursor to chemistry
six rocks can be achemically arranged in a 6grid if you write K L S S T R in sharpie on them
use this knowledge to advance the chemistry my dear friends

P.S.

My dad is a bretty good chemist
https://www.google.com/?tbm=pts
>gregory kaplan
>GE
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Bombadoodle Wolframwag - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:42:53 EST od/nOgRU No.78903 Reply
>>78902
heh, yeah. the attitude here is nice since we're all on some sort of drug. also because memes.

also because you can literally just check this board once a month and be "up to date" with the /chem/. same thing with /other/ and /hooch/ and basically every board... nvm i kinda miss old /chem/, yeah.

Blood sttranded

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- Sun, 05 Nov 2017 15:33:50 EST Wd54ldDh No.78892
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What does blood get like really after large amounts of it leave the body and stay on the ground like in a war-field?
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Phoebe Fanville - Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:21:40 EST xdtGflx/ No.78923 Reply
>>78892
a middle ages era battle field is probably one of the best fertilizer sources nature could have hoped for
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Fucking Dartway - Sat, 25 Nov 2017 00:55:02 EST MdBNaDoT No.78925 Reply
>>78893

I would agree with this. Decomposition, denaturation, and bacterial/fungal consumption would render blood into basic chemicals. As mentioned, full of potassium salts along with sodium/chloride/iron/copper/etc salts. The proteins would be be broken down into various organic chemicals or utilized by the local flora. Any saccharides floating around in the blood would be consumed almost immediately; nature likes sugars.

This is just my own speculation.

I got into University

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- Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:10:13 EST +YUSEic8 No.78765
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So I went back to college recently to pursue chemistry, I just got accepted into a pretty good uni to do Organic chemistry.

Now since i'm not that young anymore I really need to do well and not fuck this up, so since i really enjoy chemistry and need to make this work i've been putting a whole load of effort into making sure it goes well.

Please give me some recommendations for pre uni reading so I can get a head start.

Also share experiences? I did a pretty short and condensed course to get here I learned all the basics during that but i've stilled missed out on a lot of stuff an 18 year old would have done at the college level, so i'm expecting my first week at uni to be a bit overwhelming and full of things i need to learn but then i've heard from a few people that it's like that for everyone no matter how much extra reading you've been doing.
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William Sicklefune - Tue, 28 Nov 2017 11:23:17 EST 6w3Nr5Vv No.78928 Reply
>>78765
Always remember that you're always doing carbohydrates, ie carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, that means no using acids, etc...
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William Sicklefune - Tue, 28 Nov 2017 11:24:52 EST 6w3Nr5Vv No.78929 Reply
I apologize for the spam

Mathematics

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- Thu, 05 Oct 2017 11:42:33 EST +YUSEic8 No.78876
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I'm struggling with the maths of chemistry.

Anyone else hate the maths side of things? I see it as a necessary evil but I still hate it.
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:45:46 EST 4coI32Fl No.78897 Reply
im a bit ashamed to admit it but im still really happy i never had to do quantum physics .

one sort of "trick" that helped me to keep my motivation high enough to actually practice enough to pass was to come up with thought experiments or bullshit problems that required me to use the maths. using the idea work as play to your advantage gets really hard with stuff like a fucking particle on a sphere


a part from that i often find myself thinking "wow thats really interesting, im sure this is a fascinating concept, but id rather leave this to somebody else that actually enjoys this. id rather do retrosynthesis or let a computer do the calculating or eat ass right now

is there a particular area that you are struggling with


>>78890
i remember those by using base ten stuff. you can quickly derive those by messing around with potencies of ten
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Ian Pucklemare - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:47:19 EST +YUSEic8 No.78907 Reply
>>78897
>is there a particular area that you are struggling with
Everything really, it's just i'm pretty fresh to all of this and have spent a long time out of education before going back into it. Things can kind of make sense when i tackle them head on but if a couple of days after that I come across a problem, i'll struggle to actually think of the best way to calculate an answer.

I can't think of any problems off hand but if one comes up i'll post it here.

>gets really hard with stuff like a fucking particle on a sphere
I did have some problems on this and it was bullshit. Can't the computers do all of this and i'll stick to learning my way around the organic labs.
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Basil Bucklesuck - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:44:13 EST pmYWBMz8 No.78919 Reply
I used to sip whiskey and do chemistry hw when I was going to community college

I somewhat grew to like the elegance of trying to solve a problem with a line of fractions and words that cancel out.

gib stank token plis

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- Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:52:49 EST UwpwKm1P No.78908
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lelbniz
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:07:15 EST Fd7VfiYK No.78909 Reply
>>78908
This can be a good thread. The society itself isn't based around alchemy but to achieve the golden standard through a thought process. Something against the scientific method but still very valid.
It used to be some sort of annoying half-cult but actually provided introspective determination for the members so long as you sign away a bit of your freedom and resources. Kinda like a church or a society of chemists (ACS) that later developed from this structure.

Leibniz's concept of a metaphysical Monad can fit nicely into the school of yestercentury. Something that I have yet to be able to understand fully but can see how it would tie to the alchemical societies back then. He predicted nuclear physics through the destruction of monads (mind to matter "transfer) instead of the more widely accepted concept of indivisible "particles". Though obsolete, it can still be applied today.

We need more metaphysical quantum alchemists today.

Organic synthesis

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- Sat, 28 Oct 2017 09:13:55 EST EfFKvnWj No.78885
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Anyone have any books on organic synthesis. The basics how Synthesis works?

Chemistry is Fucking Crazy

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- Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:54:47 EST UeKrF7rB No.78879
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I'm barely learning about hybridization theory and already it's requiring my fullest attention and focus to keep up with the concepts. Normally I can half-pay attention in anything from anatomy to calculus to history and grasp the underlying concepts with ease. Is it because I can't see the orbitals and electrons so my mind has difficulty making a "mental map" of it? I thought chem would be as easy for me as all the other sciences but it's shockingly complicated. I'm not even in O-chem yet. Will my brain adapt to this new mode of thinking and I will be okay?
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Molly Chindlematch - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 20:03:15 EST JlSfW3Ow No.78880 Reply
tis normal, it's a good sign to study, good luck!

Anhydrous Ethanol/Methanol

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- Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:57:09 EST zsw9I8fO No.78350
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How do I go about using something like this (pic) to make anhydrous ethanol or methanol?
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Henry Cramblehall - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:55:54 EST M7FrGPbw No.78846 Reply
>>78845
its a pretty useful post dont ya think. plus this board is slow enuff
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Betsy Nugglesud - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 15:54:21 EST UoTssc8h No.78878 Reply
>>78381
magnesium sulfate won't take it all the way to 200 proof but it will get you slightly past azeotropic ethanol.

Sieves are easy to use; you don't even need to distill anything, and they can be regenerated by simply putting them in a pyrex flask (or improvised equivalent) and heating with a torch while shaking them up until no more condensation appears at the mouth of the container. They will absorb a little water while cooling but it's not much of a problem unless the humidity is super high or you need ABSOLUTELY dry ethanol. If in doubt stick a coffee filter filled with another drying agent (like mag sulf.) in the opening while it cools, so any air entering is relatively dry. Either way, the sieves will still make ethanol way drier than using MgSO4. They do take a while to work, but all you have to do is dry them out, dump them in, let it sit a few days, then filter off the sieves.

Opium Column Chromatography

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- Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:56:30 EST QGxEeR56 No.78746
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Without calcium chelation, this is the best way to achieve pure morphine from a layer of puddy or otherwise concentrated poppy residue.

A mixture of 9:1:1 DCM Methanol Diethylamine will produce an elution of reticuline impurities at 0.7-0.9, codeine at 0.45, and morphine at 0.2. Other opium oils either elute at 1 and heavier, coloured oils will not elute at all (or under 0.02).

Running this column simulation once gave me morphine as light brown needles which drew in moisture and became wet after 3 hours. The second time, morphine did not completely come through as shown on TLC short wave UV light as what I expected to be high amounts of meconate salts along with insufficient methanol miscibility. This was solved by adding an additional 1 equivalent of methanol thereby moving the morphine. This gave darker brown crystals which again absorbed water after 3 hours. Full morphine elution towards 100% in a gradient column gave 2% of brown oils. This potentially allows a column to remove codeine and oils and a methanol flush to remove the morphine with a 5-10% heavy oil contamination.

Will update this thread with more conclusions and projections.
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Aureolus Werrywag - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 00:47:08 EST HizIkIMY No.78839 Reply
>>78837
droopbox it up fam

>>78838
there's some paper here that requires something i can't remember
or you can go with hydrobromic acid in acetic acid solution but that's harder to find.
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Aureolus Werrywag - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 00:53:36 EST HizIkIMY No.78840 Reply
>>78838
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/239738471_O-Demethylation_of_Opioid_Derivatives_with_Methane_Sulfonic_Acid_Methionine_Application_to_the_Synthesis_of_Naloxone_and_Analogues

Also US patent US5071985
A mixture of 3.15 g (10-2 mole) of oxycodone, 28.3 g (3.10-1 mole) of methanesulfonic acid and 2.2 g (1.5.10-2 mole) of DL-methionine are heated to 40° and stirred at 12 hours.
Precipitate with ammonia to 9, extract with DCM. Chloroform column with a methanol gradient. 72% yield.
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Theophrastus Werrywag - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 01:08:19 EST m5AB1YJF No.78874 Reply
Ima just save this here

https://www.google.com/patents/US3137701

https://www.google.com/patents/US3632580

https://www.google.com/patents/US5112975

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo01215a002?journalCode=joceah

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21630508

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7511163

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21630516

https://www.google.com/patents/EP2001891B1?cl=en

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm8011245

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16563682

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm000119i

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25059282

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4053365/

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1021/jm030311v
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Psilocetin

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- Fri, 15 Sep 2017 18:22:23 EST yzU9mG3u No.78851
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How do you properly synthesize 4-aco-dmt
Steps, glassware needed
Proper chemistry explained please
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Thomas Grandbanks - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:08:25 EST hBAZGxou No.78859 Reply
this is basically impossible because psilocin is very unstable and so doing ordinary unqualified idiot garage chemistry on psilocin will turn it into useless polymers. if you freeze-dry the mushrooms, grind them up, extract into water under nitrogen, hydrolyse with alkali for a few hours also under nitrogen, extract into chloroform under nitrogen, and treat this with acetic anhydride and pyridine under nitrogen, maybe you have a chance. but you've probably not even considered that the whole rxn has to occur "under nitrogen" or that e.g. reflux in acid as one dumbass said will tear apart that indole like a dog playing with a soccer ball. furthermore it's not even any more potent than what you started with so you're wasting mushrooms. and if you meant to do the synthesis from scratch, you have absolutely no chance so just read the tihkal entry and sob quietly about your inability to acquire 4-hydroxyindole, oxalyl chloride, dimethylamine, or LAH.
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Lydia Honeystock - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:28:55 EST H2dReURr No.78872 Reply
>>78867
This may sound retarded... but I've been dreaming of a psilocybe gut flora or equivalent. Just imagine it.. whenever you ate too much grain, you'd be tripping balls!

Ketamine

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- Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:01:09 EST VYddMeH/ No.78854
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Can you use a dehumidifier to dry 0.5-1liter of liquid ketamine or would it suck up some of the ket as well (I know of the other methods)

How do you flavour ket.Do you just simply add in some food flavouring liquid while you are drying it ? How do you workout how much to add into it ?
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Archie Blittingmurk - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:01:57 EST +YUSEic8 No.78869 Reply
>>78862
if someone had "vanilla K" i'd refuse to buy... unless i was desperate for K for some reason.
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Eliza Dozzlehall - Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:17:54 EST qV/Fy1Bz No.78870 Reply
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>>78861
I can't even comprehend him writing all of this and thinking it's a good career choice unironically.
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Lydia Honeystock - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:26:05 EST H2dReURr No.78871 Reply
>>78869
What if it had sassafras extract as flavoring?

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