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- Sun, 28 May 2017 22:51:16 EST eE+IWTWR No.78666
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I'm looking to start small-scale creation of mdma and lsd. I've got next to no chem. knowledge, and no lab setup yet.

Got any recommendations for reading? Uncle fester and schulgin are the only ones i know of and both are above my pay grade.
What glassware is required? Recommended?
Any recommended materials sources?

Thanks
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Ernest Funkinridge - Mon, 29 May 2017 14:44:35 EST 1k9L2kSO No.78667 Reply
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step 1: buy an mdma cap
step 2: buy an acid tab
step 3: pour the mdma crystals on the acid tab

You have now successfully created mdma and lsd
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Albert Fozzlepid - Mon, 29 May 2017 23:07:10 EST 1SeWUhLk No.78668 Reply
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>What is 2c-b
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Thomas Serrysit - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:49:44 EST 4tmtdVyg No.78677 Reply
I think uncle fester is as basic as it gets.

Get a VPN and google whatever you don't understand.

Also, look up the chemicals you're going to use on wikipedia. Some of it is dangerous and requires thorough knowledge of its hazards. For instance, do not pour water into hydrochloric acid. It triggers an exothermic reaction as the HCl and H2O attempt to reach equilibrium as quickly as possible, and a portion of the HCl will vaporize and become airborne due to the heat released.

Barely a reaction, but a dumbass I know filled his home with acid gas trying to do something he didn't understand with HCl.

Basically, know what you're doing before you do it.
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Thomas Serrysit - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:57:52 EST 4tmtdVyg No.78678 Reply
>>78666

Also, you're probably going to have to learn to purify your chemicals. Like in cleaning cocaine with acetone where you attempt to dissolve the filler while leaving the cocaine behind. Unless you use reagent grade acetone, 99.9%+ pure, you're going to dissolve your cocaine with the excess water in the acetone.

So if you take epsom salt, typically MgSO4*7H2O, and you dry it in an oven to release the H2O coordinated with it, you can generate MgSO4 which will bind to excess water in your acetone while not interacting with the acetone, as the acetone is chemically inert to MgSO4, at least at room temperature. So you take standard grade acetone which has like, 70% water in it that you can get at a hardware store, clean it with dried epsom salt, and you get 99.99% pure acetone with some MgSO4*XH2O gunk that you filter out. Of course you need to know how to properly store your acetone after because it will absorb water from the atmosphere if you leave it exposed.

Anywho, chemistry can be complicated, but it's not hopeless, there's just a learning curve.
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Betsy Dapperwater - Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:59:32 EST 4tmtdVyg No.78681 Reply
>>78678

>70% water

70% acetone. Don't know where my brain was, sometimes it quantum tunnels out of my head.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:20:39 EST Pues0B4h No.78685 Reply
>>78681
You must have a very small brain, then

No but i really do appreciate you using the other thread as meta-humour against yourself. Good job, Dapperwater.
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Nicholas Dunningbut - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:48:05 EST ZYvGRZ+j No.78688 Reply
>>78666
good luck son, md synth is kinda basic but lsd is high grade, due to chem knowledge, lab materials and complex lab ways
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Nigel Cobbledale - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:43:39 EST bcC1iqtM No.78715 Reply
>I'm looking to create lsd
>no chem. knowledge
>no lab

lol ok. im building a space shuttle, dont got any tools tho
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Doris Fovingbock - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:14:31 EST +YUSEic8 No.78766 Reply
>>78688
LSD synth requires some pretty expensive equipment too.
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Doris Fovingbock - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:25:55 EST +YUSEic8 No.78767 Reply
>>78766
Also just wanted to add that I heard most of Dr Festers stuff is pretty dangerous, badly described, plain wrong or outdated with regards to the best methods / accessible precursors.
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Lillian Brocklebury - Tue, 29 Aug 2017 00:43:40 EST hBAZGxou No.78786 Reply
>>78666
study 2c-b
comparably difficult to MDMA but precursors are easier to source
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Lillian Brocklebury - Tue, 29 Aug 2017 00:44:34 EST hBAZGxou No.78787 Reply
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forgot this
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Schepperschop - Tue, 29 Aug 2017 08:27:03 EST 81NLKdBS No.78789 Reply
>>78666
How about you start worrieng about the fungus you might cultivate on your groin?
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Theophrastus Werrywag - Mon, 04 Sep 2017 05:40:52 EST npebQgFy No.78829 Reply
>>78767
fester has a lot of obsolete, inaccurate, and dangerous advice in a lot of his writeups

if you don't know how to problem solve and be creative with limited reagents and the generally accepted academic method of synthesizing LSD, it'd be much cheaper and efficient to buy strips off the deepweb
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Lydia Honeystock - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:32:29 EST H2dReURr No.78873 Reply
>>78786
This! Make 2c-b pleeease! Flood the market! Make so much that a dose is a dollar!
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Schepperschop - Wed, 04 Oct 2017 02:13:42 EST xTIigKo1 No.78875 Reply
>>78873
I would appreciate you posting sorry for that post.
Because it is a terrible post.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:13:17 EST R8gNW3ol No.78882 Reply
>>78666
You won't have the knowledge base or resources to synth LSD if this is a start from scratch learn as you (I can't say I've ever looked at this other than from a hypothetical POV).

Fester's Book is riddled with misinfo, dangerous, and outdated but if that lost you I don't know where to point. Also, the name is Shulgin not Schulgin


Look up the Leuckart Route or other reductive aminations (aluminum foil method), to my knowledge, these are common ways clandestine individuals produce racemic MDMA, assuming you locate some PMK.

Like someone else stated this is like saying I want to build a nuclear reactor but have no knowledge in engineering or nuclear physics. Also I'm broke and have no capital.

All in all, would it not be cheaper/easier and a better risk/reward to take advantage of arbitrage in your local market through use of dark places?
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John Chebberspear - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:29:50 EST owjdA4/1 No.79015 Reply
Don't bother, do some legal synths for fun.
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Katsuragi !/pe1aKvMmQ - Thu, 24 May 2018 22:10:39 EST 4Q6JexVr No.79132 Reply
>>79015
I like putting tea leaves into ethanol.
I know, I'm SO wacky, such crazes,.
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Samuel Turveydock - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:45:20 EST zbIVdkqy No.79216 Reply
honestly man you arent gonna be able to pull it off unless you got a lot of money and spare time. no reputable source will sell you their chemicals. best you could do is mdma but mmda would be a better choice and you wouldnt need anything fancy to pull it off. not to mention you can get scheduled starting materials from inconspicuous plants
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John Fozzleford - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 01:28:24 EST DpduscwK No.79227 Reply
>>78666
i dont know about mdma, but i know that an actual lsd synth starting from lysergic acid is actually surprisingly hard. from what i remember, one of the easier ones still required the use of triflouroacetic acid
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John Fozzleford - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 01:28:24 EST DpduscwK No.79228 Reply
>>78666
i dont know about mdma, but i know that an actual lsd synth starting from lysergic acid is actually surprisingly hard. from what i remember, one of the easier ones still required the use of triflouroacetic acid
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Barnaby Clondertit - Mon, 17 Sep 2018 16:48:19 EST ggkjpE8I No.79230 Reply
>>79132

any specific drinks or tea flavors you enjoy? sounds worth a try
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Albert Greenwell - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 23:14:55 EST 9hRNrR6K No.79241 Reply
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Have you even taken Calculus?
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Ebenezer Wovingmet - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 08:11:24 EST P3Ub+nJg No.79286 Reply
total synthesis 2 by strike is a good book for mdma
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James Blythebury - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 17:40:59 EST 9hRNrR6K No.79292 Reply
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If Uncle Fester is above your "pay grade" I can safely assume that you will never make LSD, MDMA or any other drug for that matter and it should probably be thus... because you sound like a moron that's going to hurt themselves and others.
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Martin Worthingshaw - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 04:20:58 EST H2dReURr No.79302 Reply
>>79292
Those books are pretty old and a lot of the ingredients lists have either been put on lists or simply become less available/more expensive due to normal market reasons, such as decreased demand and production and industry standards leading to different choices. It's quite possible that where OP is, the specified list of requirements could be 10x what he actually needs for the synth.
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Jack Blepperlure - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:23:16 EST X7AWx7pQ No.79303 Reply
Follow your dreams I need at least 15,000 barrels
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Polly Goodbanks - Fri, 01 Mar 2019 06:06:24 EST zrV5jqLv No.79312 Reply
OP, first place to start is to understand 'unknown unknowns'.
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