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Home-made Dynamite / Making A Bomb

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- Wed, 11 Apr 2018 03:23:05 EST ynVJ73wC No.79055
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Hypothetically speaking, I am curious
Having rewatched Fight Club recently what with the home-made dynamite there
How would /chem/ recommend making a bomb, hypothetically speaking?
Asking for a friend. Like, not a huge bomb, but, you know.
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Cyril Dacklefuck - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:24:48 EST MD58KPFF No.79056 Reply
to make ANFO all you need is hydrogen peroxide and acetone. Flash powder would be cool too, but you'd have to buy powdered aluminum. Plenty of guides on youtube.
The hard part is not blowing yourself up while you make explosives.
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press !//CEObOMBY - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:26:34 EST owgnkIMV No.79060 Reply
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>>79056
>not blowing yourself up
and yet you mention acetone peroxide, youre a brave person. F
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David Chemmerdatch - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:22:15 EST 8eK2pPPB No.79066 Reply
easy OP just get a chunk of pure potassium and a glass of water. walk up to that bully at school and drop it in the glass to teach him a real lesson!
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Wesley Birrymutch - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:02:37 EST ynVJ73wC No.79070 Reply
>>79066
Im talking about like what JGL as Hesher throws at the patrol car in his debut scene.
Hesher is a movie that if you havent seen features JGL as an anarchist and arsonist.
I wanna be able to pull off that sort of creation while also possessing the chemistry knowledge of a Tyler Durden.
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press !//CEObOMBY - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:50:36 EST 1c1ca2sB No.79074 Reply
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>>79070
btw, contrary to some cuts of fight club orange concentrate and gasoline do not make napalm.
but then again i havent seen hersher.

hypothetically speaking the most important step would be to procure ammonium nitrate which is the only chemical that could be useful for anybody without the common sense to undergo some training or do proper research. and no proper terrorist is going to ask for advice on a canadian picture board devoted to either eating drugs or enjoying wrestling
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Rebecca Pummerdale - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:42:40 EST eFBmvHtG No.79076 Reply
>>79074
Gasoline, styrofoam, and soap make napalm.

Burns for 30 minutes +
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Reuben Meshworth - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 04:15:10 EST ugeUE0In No.79079 Reply
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>>79074
Heaher is on Hulu right now and is a comedy drama action philosophy movie, starring Joseph Gordon Levitt as Hesher, a squatting homeless metalhead with a van who commits arson and makes his own explosives all in comical fashion while listening to and playing Metallica while befriending a traumatized little boy.
I recommend checking it out with a Hulu free trial if you dont have it. You’ll see the device in Hesher’s/JGL’s debut scene that I am talking about. Packs a bang, not a huge one, and the movie would imply its possible to make even in his position.
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press !//CEObOMBY - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:13:45 EST EMQjI2iS No.79085 Reply
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>>79084
>carrying around a bottle of both nitric and sulfuric acid to mix once you want to make stuff go boom
>not putting (or producing) poor mans napalm in a glass bottle to which to which you can attach a igniter
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press !//CEObOMBY - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:03:51 EST GdZbeHwT No.79088 Reply
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>>79079
any work of art that has a component to it which provokes and uses identification with an actor relies on willing suspension of disbelieve. movies or any art isnt obligated to truthfully represent the reality, sometimes the plot or the message has to stretch plausability. and to be frank, if art had an obligation to represent or rather portray reality it'd be no art at all. it would be a well written or produced document at best. paul klee once said that the purpose of art is not to reproduce what can be seen, but to make visible what isnt.

besides the tangent which can be seen above
when designing any thing you have to concretely define the purpose of your final contraption.
designing a bomb is fairly easy if the only criteria is that it makes a loud sound. in order to truely create something of usefulness and if possible intricate cleverness you have to set somewhat concrete restraints concerning goals, costs and safety aswell as efficiency.

i still havent watched hesher, save for a few clips - i have to add that JGL is a capable actor despite having starred in mostly mediocre roles afaik - and i suspect the scene the OP is refering to portrays a run of the mill pipe bomb. basically highly energetic material within a fairly robust container - as bomby has said - combined with some igniter.

ive given some thought to a few design ideas for incendiary bombs since reading the OP but to be honest i have no proper training in the handling of energetic materials and no reliable intuition for the requirements towards materials used for such a specific task. and allthough i did a tiny bit of half assed sketching, calculating and evaluating - just for curiousities sake - i'd rather not discuss the specifics of bomb makking on a web forum i appreciate and really like hanging aroung at

>TL;DR its a pipe bomb, dont ask for advice on constructing bombs and FFS do ever use bombs against anybody unless you have been forced into a situation that absolutely calls for this kind of terrible actions
>bombs, especially chemical and incendiary bombs, do not discriminate and are hard to employ without the risk of harming people that never agreed to fight and even if you happen to be the most sophisticatedly armed nation thus far you'd still fuck up on the regular
>contemporary terrorism - as seen on the news- is a fucking farce and a terrible joke gone bad concerning what it means to properly influence politics
>you are never anonymous as soon as you talk to anybody, not even on the internets

/speed induced rambling

has anbody noticed that SWIM is also an acronym for 'someone whos is me'?
i spologize for any typos and errors
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press !//CEObOMBY - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:08:37 EST GdZbeHwT No.79089 Reply
>>79086
you are right about a molotov cocktail with a high viscosity fuel having piss poor reach. itd be the euialent of flinging a flaming loogy

my basic idea was to use a primary exposive to get a good spread and using a finely dispersed, fool proof igniter - perhaps white P ? - or atleast a secondary fuel to compliment the shitty napalm in order to get a reliable ignition
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Lillian Chaddlehall - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 03:42:51 EST f0f0u15W No.79096 Reply
>>79088
well fuck man, I never said I wanted to become a fucking terrorist or use this knowledge against anybody. Calm down. I’m just trying to learn and aquire some wisdom here that a couple role models of mine seem to portray and have as characters I relate with. Art, in a decaying society, if it is true, must also reflect decay; and unless it wants to break faith with its social function , art must also show the world as changeable. These particular works of art portray decay in the sense of anarchism, while showing the world as changeable.
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press !//CEObOMBY - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 04:22:59 EST owgnkIMV No.79097 Reply
>>79096
my previous post also serves as a PSA about the dangers of liquid ecstasy
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press !//CEObOMBY - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 04:28:40 EST owgnkIMV No.79098 Reply
>>79095
yeah pipe bomb, plain old oxidizer such as ammonium nitrate with a fuel, potentially coarsed to a certain grain size to ensure faster reaction inside a threaded pipe .
for extra points fix a layer of nails to it.
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Bombastus Werrywag - Sat, 12 May 2018 02:38:57 EST +BoDDLT6 No.79100 Reply
>>79098
opium pipe bomb
astus


>>79089
BREEEEAAAAAKING THE HAAAAAAABIT

Anyway, OP. You're going to have to specify what type of bomb you are looking for. Anti-material: something that can drill through armour first then explode
Anti-personnel: lots of shrapnel
Area denial: big explosion
Incendiary: the only one that's /chem/ related tbh
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Shitting Murdman - Fri, 18 May 2018 00:16:38 EST sDRmz2Sh No.79107 Reply
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Looks like too much work for me tbh.
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Eugene Woddleson - Sat, 25 May 2019 11:40:10 EST jeo0aiJd No.79423 Reply
>>79107

Dude, fuck going through nitroglycerin or processing it once you've made it. Alfred Nobel's brother died developing dynamite, and he was an expert on nitroglycerin

Better to fuck around with the nitrocellulose/nitrostartch mentioned in that image. I would go with the starch, because i think you can dissolve starch in water which would be better for nitration.

As for nitration, remember that nitric acid isnt something you'll find in the wild, but nitrate salts are basically everywhere
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James Randi - Mon, 27 May 2019 06:45:23 EST 0ZtUa/pQ No.79424 Reply
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Ok op here's my ultimate guide.

First got to new mexico and utah.
Buy a geiger counter.
And a metal detector.
Walk around old nuclear testing sites until both units go off at the same time.
Congrats you found a bit of a nuclear bomb fragment.
Do this for a year
Buy a centrefuge from north korea on the deep web.
Refine into nuclear material.
Build C4 with passing chemistry knowledge aquired from 420chan elite anarchist agents.
Wrap nuclear material with C4 in perfectly shperical and perfectly shaped and timed ball.
Put inside metal casing.
Attach detonator cable.
Move away from blast zone (atleast 10 feet should be good)
Detonate

A slightly simpler set ups is to order severa thousand uranium pellets of Amazon.
Refine with your north korean centrefuge.
Cast into two bullets.
Buy the two highest powered rifles you can find.
Weld the barrels together.
Load nuclear bullets.
Fire.
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Henry Clazzledock - Tue, 28 May 2019 18:59:56 EST QiRUncgI No.79425 Reply
>>79424
Each one of those bullets would have to weigh 16.5 lbs in order for them to reach critical mass upon colliding with each other. And that's if they were inside a neutron reflector. There's a reason tactical nukes never got smaller than a shoulder-mounted launcher.

As for the C4 charge, you'd be lucky to achieve a chain reaction with nuclear materials so polluted by plastic explosive. You'd end up making a pretty gnarly dirty bomb though, so I would definitely get farther away than 10 ft...
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James Randi - Wed, 29 May 2019 13:13:22 EST 0ZtUa/pQ No.79426 Reply
>>79425
Why so big?
I thought they just have to be a certain mass to size ratio and contain enough nuclear matter per cubic centimeter (purity?) to work.
So in theory couldn't they be any size and still work?
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Eugene Dorringlock - Wed, 29 May 2019 19:20:12 EST QiRUncgI No.79427 Reply
>>79426
>>I thought they just have to be a certain mass to size ratio
Not quite. The ratio is important (anything that isn't your fissile material that is a component of the mass is going to actually increase the mass needed, because what is needed is sufficient space for a chain reaction between the fissile material) but there also is a bare minimum amount of mass necessary for the chain reaction to become self-sustaining. Hence the 'critical mass,' which is different for every radioactive element. You can fudge it a little bit using various techniques (hence the neutron reflector), but you're not going to be able to ever make a self-sustaining reaction using 10 lbs of uranium, for example, no matter what tricks you use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_mass
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 20:57:28 EST YrZS8xAH No.79434 Reply
as long as you can source nitric acid, anything is possible
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Hamilton Cluckleket - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 03:27:56 EST eHid2DsS No.79438 Reply
>>79434

mix your cornflakes with milk, then wait until they are very soft

I'm going to skip the next step because the FBI are watching this connection, but you'll figure it out
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:26:43 EST taPIkFWF No.79443 Reply
>>79440
honestly if you need me to tell you that nitric acid is required for safe pyrotechnics, then you probably didn't plan to survive in the first place.............

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