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How dangerous is propylhexedrine

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- Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:33:09 EST JRNv+eaw No.295165
File: 1595259189180.jpg -(13426B / 13.11KB, 197x256) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How dangerous is propylhexedrine
Chemically it's almost identical to meth but I can't help but feel like I'm fucking my heart/brain up on it due to lack of research I've found online.

How bad is it really to indulge in 1/4 of a cotton a few times a week compared to someone who takes ADHD meds daily?
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Sophie Hirringman - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:42:24 EST ySNk45ZF No.295361 Reply
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Also, would taking half a kpin or so & a beta blocker like metoprolol help?

Have a good amount of benz to come down after this, not gonna go ham or anything though just gonna take as much as I need function

Here's to never doing this bs drug again, lol
Jack Gibbleridge - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 23:09:23 EST 0/DcaF+o No.295393 Reply
I wouldn't recommend it it's dirty as fuck. Felt worse on my body than coke and speed combined, also almost dropped me for good at one point.
Samuel Hottingnene - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 15:00:56 EST +EOOjhGF No.295402 Reply

Propylhexedrine is perfectly non-toxic, slightly weaker then methamphetamine, and superior in everyway to Dextroamphetamine/Adderall. (More euphoria, longer duration thanks to norpropylhexedrine. Which is it's active metabolite. Propylhexedrine itself is just as active, though.)

You're also taking a very low dose, the average recreational dose is 250-750 mg with no tolerance. (1-3 cottons.) Just be sure to space it out if you're going to eat the cottons. Doing this frequently can cause intestinal blockage.

Withdrawal (What're you doing?)

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- Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:33:17 EST +EOOjhGF No.295401
File: 1596911597590.jpg -(58891B / 57.51KB, 1100x762) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Withdrawal (What're you doing?)
Well /stim/, I currently am withdrawling from Dextroamphetamine. I've been taking high doses of levophenylalanine. (Essential nutrient that metabolizes into dopamine and norepinephrine. Also metabolizes through a different route into phenethylamine, a trace monoamine that has the same biochemical mechanisms as Amphetamine.)

With not much relief. I smoked all my weed 5 days ago, and am very lonely and depressed. I've been through this before years ago, and it's horrible. Morphine withdrawal in my experience is only slightly worse, and that says a lot.

Currently drinking coffee and chain-smoking cigarettes. What're you on/doing? I won't be getting relief for roughly a week. :(

Can adderall permanently shrink your dick?

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- Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:59:55 EST +YZAOduk No.295390
File: 1596826795179.jpg -(31709B / 30.97KB, 352x263) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Can adderall permanently shrink your dick?
I know that it does it temporarily sometimes but have any of you noticed permanent shrinkage over time? And I just take 15mg IR like 4 times a week should I be worried?
Simon Clusslefat - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 19:49:23 EST o23pIvqG No.295391 Reply
Yes it will shrink your dick by approximately 0.2-0.5 inches. This is very well documented in certain patient populations that are vulnerable to stimulant induced vascular constriction degradation.
Nell Hinnercocke - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:39:29 EST NeCXEsDS No.295392 Reply
No it does not and no you should not be worried. You also take very little. Addy makes mine bigger tbh and I've been taking it 16 years now.
Samuel Hottingnene - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:25:15 EST +EOOjhGF No.295400 Reply

The post above is a troll. Amphetamine has no ability to shrink or degenerate your penis at all. It simply just retracts it from vascular constriction. You're perfectly fine.

I've been using Adderall recreationally since I was 13 (25, now.) and my penis has grown perfectly fine.


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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 19:36:09 EST eKe6QIxp No.293547
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Old one stopped bumping.
But we still lay out bumps of something
Booty bumping
Bumping bumps horny

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m - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 02:32:29 EST ncx5wpUD No.295396 Reply
Bump on 45mg oral d-amph maybe ~8hr ago and just plugged 30mg d-amph + 4mg bupe together.

I have a question for you guys. Do you prefer non-pharma meth (specify if it's d-methamp or racemix methamp if you know) or pure pharma d-amph? Specifically wondering in terms of non-IV, particularly for oral and rectal routes. I won't bother trying non-pharma meth as long as I can keep my d-amph doses low enough to not run out of my strip, but I had been wondering about meth's comparison to dex. My one friend who has lots of polydrug experience but doesn't have any physical dependencies (maybe mild to moderate mental addiction to crack/coke) has told me that he prefers oral dex over oral d-methamp and nasal dex IR over nasal d-methamp.


Obviously you have to compare them in comparable doses. Don't reply saying "meth is 100x better" if you just smoke/snort a fat shard that you didn't even weigh before crushing up and snorting.

Also, how potent is say ~90% pure oral/nasal/rectal d-methamp compared to oral/nasal/rectal d-amph IR? What's the estimated potency of top vendor US domestic DNM d-methamp these days? I know there's a few relatively harmless meth cuts that are WAY more popular to use than 10+ years ago.
DTMO - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 06:00:49 EST 6DtrIZwm No.295397 Reply
>I won't bother trying non-pharma meth
Ok, cool

Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

I'm being hyperbolic, but everything you already know about the dope cycle basically applies here.

It's easy enough to find studies on their relative strengths.
All I can really say from experience with non pharma meth is that dexamphetamine got me rattled at much lower doses than I anticipated when I was a heavy meth user.

From memory of the studies I read the potency isn't vastly different however due to meth's greater lipophilicity it takes effect more rapidly via all routes. It also has a longer duration, less pronounced peripheral/physical stimulation and a less harsh comedown.
Martin Dicklefield - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 07:22:42 EST OgfP8+gV No.295398 Reply
Finally caved to the fuck-off price increase on meth.
Sold my bike for a half G...I paid $60 + 1G for it three months ago. WORTH IT FUCKERS.

Stim Fapping with VR Porn

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- Fri, 07 Aug 2020 00:12:10 EST f/356/8n No.295383
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VR porn is the best porn ever on stims. Way superior to anything else, something about the hyperfocus and hypersexuality. It's so fucking good.

I have amassed a 30tb collection so far.
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Augustus Bonningforth - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 01:51:14 EST ujTEzZy6 No.295395 Reply
orgasms experienced during masturbation are generally more physiologically intense than those experienced from intercourse since masturbation allows the individual to focus solely on their own pleasure. but you're right, greater intensity doesn't necessarily equate to masturbation being more enjoyable than sex.
Wesley Fondleman - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 11:44:33 EST o23pIvqG No.295399 Reply
Sounds like your mind has just been conditioned to enjoy masturbation more than sex. It makes absolutely no sense why you would naturally prefer masturbation over sex when having sexual intercourse is evolutionarily intended to be your primary reason of existence.
Augustus Bonningforth - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 16:43:30 EST ujTEzZy6 No.295403 Reply
did you not read what i said? i wasn't even talking about myself. i was saying in general. i also said this doesn't mean people prefer masturbation. most prefer sex.

Psychedelic effects from Dextroamphetamine

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- Thu, 06 Aug 2020 11:17:58 EST +EOOjhGF No.295381
File: 1596727078669.jpg -(92788B / 90.61KB, 700x700) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Psychedelic effects from Dextroamphetamine
I'm a very experienced drug user, including psychedelic hallucinogens. (Have done plenty of psilocybian mushrooms.)

Anyways, I started recreationally using dopaminergic psychostimulants at the age of 13 (I'm 25.), and always noticed mild psychedelic hallucinogen effects from high doses. (Tracers, deep alteration of thought not unlike shrooms or high doses of cannabinoids, slight morphing of certain images, and mild synthasthesia.)

I've noticed it from both dextroamphetamine, and propylhexedrine. (Propylhexedrine's being more intense as it's a slightly stronger stimulant.)

Neither Dextroampheamine or Propylhexedrine have any binding affinity for Serotonin 5ht2-a, 5ht2-b, or 5ht2-c receptor subtypes. Which is the primary mechanism for psychedelic hallucinogens. (They both do however, both weakly bind to 5ht1a, which just releases low concentrations of Oxytocin etc. and has no psychedelic effects.)

So, I'm curious, how common is this?

I can't wait to try MDMA, which genuinely does elicit psychedelic effects because of my reaction.
Esther Pockworth - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 05:45:24 EST ujTEzZy6 No.295386 Reply
its incredibly common to experience some overlapping effects of psychedelics such as video/audio hallucinations and an altered thought process while under the influence of stimulants. as these effects get stronger they manifest into psychosis.

Product sold as "kigelia africana extract/DMAA alternative", what could it be?

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- Wed, 05 Aug 2020 16:14:54 EST WzxryLh9 No.295377
File: 1596658494637.jpg -(18250B / 17.82KB, 194x259) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Product sold as "kigelia africana extract/DMAA alternative", what could it be?
I have used this product for about two years. The effects are the following, from most to least intense: zen-like relaxation, aphrodisiac, mild stimulation, increased discipline/life perspective, nootropic, mild head-high in larger doses

I LOVE this stuff. I use a wide array of substances, stimulants, nootropics, cannabis, herbs, psychedelics. I always look for a balance between relaxation and stimulation. Too much stimulation and I become wired, too much relaxation and I get foggy and useless. I like a good stimulation, and I like a nice relaxation, but the absolute sweet spot is an equal measure of both.

This product does it. I am curious what compound could give these effects. Supposedly kigelia africana contains DMHA, but in such incredibly small amounts that the plant alone or even potent extracts are unlikely to give any effects. DMHA is illegal to be sold as a supplement, yet this website has been running for several years and uses a payment system that requires approval and authentication from my nation's chamber of commerce. What could it this realistically be? It's a crystal that instantly dissolves in water once it comes in contact with it and has a very "fish-like" taste.

Over long-term use I have noticed no side-effects and no development of dependency. The product synergizes very well with all kinds of substances, I have not noticed any negative or unpleasant interactions, my next big experiment will be with LSD in a few weeks (which is why I'd like to be more informed as to what this product really is).
Ernest Brammlemug - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 05:18:17 EST 0Hb8gUOk No.295380 Reply
is this the stuff all those weird seeds in the mail grow into if you plant them?

"Meth" nowadays 🆚 c. Late 90s Glass

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!2iyFNTAIpU - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 10:06:17 EST mjDk8RJs No.295087
File: 1594649177733.jpg -(2213072B / 2.11MB, 4000x3000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. "Meth" nowadays 🆚 c. Late 90s Glass
Anyone else old enough to remember that shit on the West coast of America back in the late 90s called glass? It was the kind of shit you could be up for days wearing your thumbs down on Nintendo after only a few hits from the bowl or a line in the nose.. I stopped by the end of '99 and didn't try again until this time last year and been on it ever since but the thing is that this shit looks exactly the same and everything except for the effects... It's weak af and everyone I know who remembers the old shit says that they feel the same way about it so I know it's not just me. You can eat, go to sleep and fuck with no problem cumming on this shit no matter how much you smoke and it even kind of makes you feel tired sometimes.. Wtf?

I've heard that the reason is due to the precursor of the cooking process and white boys back in the 90s used p2p or some shit while Mexicans import all of the shit today and cut it off top immediately before they even transport it.. What's the deal? Anyone have any insight as to how this shit turned into such a shitty substance compared to the 90s Meth?

Pic related: Typical shit in a "coag"...
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Edward Gashlock - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 03:32:16 EST p7awfRVd No.295269 Reply
Might have been 4-methylaminorex

They used to call it ice or u4eah or some shit maybe glass too. However it is like 3 times as potent as meth and lasts a fucking long long long time. Like 16 hours maybe more. I took some etizolam when I was just honestly tired of being stimmed lol

It is fucking amazing shit though. Only had one opportunity to try it.

Was it rice looking crystals?

Would stimulants help lazyness and fatigue?

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- Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:32:53 EST EwYbjxLi No.295351
File: 1596421973699.jpg -(356014B / 347.67KB, 1200x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Would stimulants help lazyness and fatigue?
I have always had a problem with never getting shit done unless I am forced to. Once I get off work, I just zone out watching Youtube videos because I'm so tired and don't even feel like using much brain power. I don't even feel like playing videogames or reading a book. This causes me to have a large backlog of stuff I plan on doing but never get to. Would stimulants help me get on track and which kinds if so?
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Fuck Churryway - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 02:44:05 EST 0Hb8gUOk No.295371 Reply
i know that if taken for extended amount of time you will start thinning, in my experience and also i looked it up others had same issue and they said THE DOCTORS DIDNT TELL THEM ABOUT IT
but good job with the big hair i stopped taking it because id rather have hair than be on durgs
Nigel Fallerhitch - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 12:13:33 EST 3GYN0w7u No.295376 Reply
So many suggestions, I don't know what to pick. Half of these aren't even stimulants.
Sidney Hollermodge - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 16:43:25 EST WzxryLh9 No.295378 Reply
The thing with using stims to counteract lethargy is not so much which stim you use, but how you use it. You want to change your mindset and lifestyle so that what you want to do on a daily/weekly basis happens on a daily/weekly basis. Stims can help you get off your ass and set that pattern in motion, but you have to watch out that you don't RELY on stims to keep that up.

Some people can do it, some people can't. Long-term stim use has all kinds of effects on your neurotransmission (which are all reversible thankfully) and beyond that tolerance will kick in at any given point.

What you are describing can also be interpreted as minor depressive symptoms. Not saying you are depressed/depressive, but these kinds of situations/feelings are not so much a lack of energy as a lack of motivation. A lot of stims will give you energy, but not the kind of motivation you need long-term. Nootropics could be helpful for you as well, or a combination of nootropic and stim (as a nootropic I can highly recommend Huperzine A in conjunction with something as simple as coffee).

Modafinil is also a stim that is highly nootropic, but it has three common problems: 1. a lot of people experience gut problems with it, 2. even if you take it at like 6 or 7am it is likely to keep you up past 3am, 3. it "runs out" at a given point, it's kind of like tolerance but in the sense that what makes it such a standout drug is just gone, you still get stimulation but that X factor is just gone at one point

Although nothing to mess around with if you don't know what you're doing, but still worth mentioning is central nervous system stimulants. DMAA/DMHA and their alternatives will do a good job of "upping" everything, giving you a bit of motivation, stimulation, relaxation. Some people can use this stuff for decades, some people develop heart/liver problems, so I don't particularly recommend them, but they might prove useful if you're desperate and nootropics and stims don't do a good job for you.

The very ultimate last recourse is psychedelics, but these have the potential to radically shift your perspective of who and what you are, what humanity is, what life is, what existence is. If you have broader problems and an overall disconnect between what you want/seek out of life and what is demanded of you, and you suffer some amount of "mental anguish" over it, you can get some perspective with psychedelics. They will show you what is going wrong where and why exactly you lack the motivation. In an ideal scenario, they will motivate you to start on your issues right away, in a good scenario, they will give you insight that you can apply long-term, and in a bad scenario you suffer an uncomfortable experience that can potentially traumatize you if you don't integrate it in your perspective of reality.

Hope this is of some use to you.

RIP stimlion

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- Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:41:18 EST 54xma3GW No.295230
File: 1595605278349.jpg -(215534B / 210.48KB, 720x1280) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. RIP stimlion
Heard from multiple sources that she passed on from suicide. (heroin overdose)

Figured anyone here that was in touch with her that has fallen out of touch deserves to know. She's been through alot following up to this and changed quite a bit but months ago I'd consider her a good friend and she was a good person that ended up going down a good path and then a shitty one. Ended up in a psych ward not too long ago and ended up on some medication that really fucked with her head more than anything. Depression took hold and behold, the news I heard from a couple people more in contact with her than me on discord.

Not sure if this is the proper way of going about a post informing of someone's death but I've also never had to either.

RIP to that crazy and cool mafk, despite the mistakes she made when I wasn't in contact that I wouldn't have approved of, she was an awesome friend before it all. It really sucks what she was getting into leading up to this and none of her weird pony friends gave a fuck but whatever. It is what it is
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Hannah Cunnerdore - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 17:39:47 EST REMZWiIl No.295368 Reply
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You don’t speak for the entirety of the site. A ton of people did hate SL yes and some are even making jokes about the passing in here. Stim did have a few close friends though and a lot of people liked to read about the crazy adventures whether fabricated or not.

I realized this person had a lot of issues and probably mentally illness and emphasized. I wouldn’t say we were close but we were cordial and had only had positive interactions. Not everyone here is a sociopath.

stim high

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- Tue, 04 Aug 2020 15:17:25 EST z88FV85v No.295366
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I get a really nice feel good high when I use but lately I've noticed as the day goes on I start getting intrusive thoughts with an increased sense of anxiety and paranoia. Thinking about past memories feel more dramatic. When it gets night I also see minor psychedelic visuals like shape distortion. All these things make the end high feel like a mini bad trip. You just feel completely tired. I think I'm just gonna quit though, using doesn't feel fun anymore. Feels more like I'm wasting time now than when I was actually enjoying it.
Emma Trotstone - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 16:23:23 EST iSMzDGuq No.295367 Reply
That's basically par for the course with stims. Once the happy chemicals go away and your brain starts going back to baseline things feel kinda shitty. Your best bet is to either drink liquor, take benzos, or use some kind of opiate or sedative to knock yourself out before you have to deal with the comedown.

How stupid is doing stims on probation

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- Fri, 03 Jul 2020 03:47:07 EST pJIHVaOi No.295020
File: 1593762427840.png -(286393B / 279.68KB, 613x589) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How stupid is doing stims on probation
N anyone of you on probation?
I have probation(where i have to show up at my prob.officers office every couple of months to show that im ok and to talk to her, but in the legal docents it is stated that they can, at any time of the day, knock down my door to check on me.
But i want to go fast, what do you think, how bad of an idea is tailing so e shit?
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George Mommlebury - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:35:46 EST klHhwZrU No.295354 Reply
if they ask couldn't you just say "I did take use a nasal decongestant could that have something to do with it? I think it was called benzedrex" and claim it was a false positive
Jenny Hepperhuck - Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:02:44 EST o23pIvqG No.295365 Reply
Probation doesn’t fuck around. You’re an absolute idiot if you try to get around the terms of your probation. Think about the type of people they deal with everyday. Do you think they are really going to believe that you took an over the counter medication that caused you to test positive for meth? Lmao.

Calm Music for Stim Time?

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- Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:59:53 EST 1qZy5CPC No.295227
File: 1595595593865.jpg -(45489B / 44.42KB, 640x786) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Calm Music for Stim Time?
A started taking amphetamines a couple months ago to facilitate my work as a writer and editor. Not related but it's been going pretty well. I've kept to using no more than twice a week and only on two occasions did I accidentally take an overlarge dose which kept me from being productive (nothing bad happened, I just got too fidgety and distracted...what I am taking doesn't seem to produce euphoria even at higher doses). I am looking for tips on what to listen to while working and stimmed. Normally I listen to classical music (Chopin and Dvorak mostly) or Jazz (a wide variety). But when I'm stimmed, even at a fairly low dose, I've found these kinds of music makes it all feel too much. It's too frantic or dynamic or whatever and the effect is that I feel anxious or over-stimulated. Any tips on simple, calm background music to listen to while working and stimmed?
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Jack Brommledock - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 21:15:49 EST s3jF+Ywm No.295350 Reply
Music in general gets like this for me on adderall, especially if I'm focused on doing something else instead of listening to the music, but only if I've not been using it "correctly". That is to say, if I've been sitting in the same spot for 3-6 hours at a time without getting up and moving around, taking breaks, eating, drinking, and getting a little exercise of at least some kind in. Taking too much adderall makes the effect more pronounced. Try any of those suggestions.
Phyllis Fudgeken - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 10:20:35 EST CVmVoemt No.295359 Reply
oldschool instrumental hip hop mixes, doesnt even have to be oldschool as long as there is zero vocal

Meth prices skyrocketing

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- Tue, 21 Jul 2020 22:30:55 EST 8tG85Mmq No.295187
File: 1595385055001.jpg -(88625B / 86.55KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Meth prices skyrocketing
tfw meth is $500/g in Australia
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Simon Macklenodging - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:54:26 EST tudMmjYm No.295273 Reply
extreme isolation and insanely fucked up drug laws almost on par with South Asia except for the death sentences and extrajudicial killings
Ernest Facklebanks - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:29:45 EST OgfP8+gV No.295284 Reply
Went from 30/g to 400 flat in Canada. Down to a stable 250 on last quote. DNM hovering around 70..but I think we're in a new reality here. I quit altogether..most people switched to crack lmao
DTMO - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:33:21 EST TH6uSTKk No.295352 Reply
Yes to one, not so much to part two. I believe the usual routes by which bulk pseudoephedrine or meth itself enter the country are having issues at the moment. Due to border closures law enforcement has also been able to better control the supply of drugs between Australian states.

Even locally produced drugs tend to be quite expensive by world standards, which is something I don't have a great answer for.

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