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biggest fuckup of my life

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- Tue, 10 Aug 2021 22:58:17 EST XeIGsD6N No.298388
File: 1628650697683.jpg -(179840B / 175.62KB, 1600x1200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. biggest fuckup of my life
lads i MAJORLY fucked up today. i posted this in /psy/, but since it's also stim related (and really the reason i made this ignorant mistake tbh) i'm posting it here too

i was on APIHP, mostly coming down, and trying to redose 90mg via IM injection. anyways i mixed up my bags, and accidentally unsuspectingly IM'd 90mg of 4acodmt. i am very stupid and irresponsible and thus suffered accordingly. truly the most difficult experience of my life. i had no benzos or antipsychotics to take the edge off of whatsoever and i was stuck in my room the entirety of the trip which felt like a lifetime.

i did the dose at 1pm. i'm not one for heroic doses of psychedelics at all either. i had slight tolerance from 2 trips within the last week, but those were my first time tripping this year period. (13mg 4acodmt + 13mg 4homet via IM, and 20mg 4homet + 200mg K via IM). being tweaked already from the APIHP made me feel like i was dying in the beginning and it took everything in me not to panic.

im done with drugs for a while lads, and i'm beating myself up hard about this stupid fucking move i did.


pic unrelated, MXE and Heroin circa 2013
BIG DICK BOMBA - Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:09:14 EST lHSobMZf No.298460 Reply
just remember it was a mistake. I'm glad ur taking a break from drugs, I think its important for everyone who uses them to step back for a moment, especially if they believe its harming them or causing negatives views of yourself. cut yourself some slack, forgive and show compassion as you might to another person.

Crack pipes

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- Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:59:03 EST R0IZqj1y No.298384
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Any advice on smoking crack out of a pipe? I've always smoked it in a bottle, but the other day I had to resort to using a friend's pipe. The deal is I would put rocks in, heat it up, drag but basically no smoke would come out of my lungs when I exhaled. Feels like I just wasted a gram. What might have gone wrong?
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Clara Snoddale - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:09:47 EST 2DVjUJyn No.298395 Reply
I've no XP in crack-smoking, but I've smoked a bunch of euro-hash from crack-ish smoking utensils because it's the most cost effective material frugal way of smoking it I've found. So these tips are from that perspective, YMMV.

I would wager you simply werent patient enough about the heating, pulling too early. You have to keep in mind pulling drags fresh air through the pipe, lowering the temp. Best to wait until you already see whispers of smoke starting to form, and only pull as softly as you can without letting smoke escape the other way, limiting the temp-decrease to only as much as necessary so fresh smoke is being formed as you breathe in and keep heating.
If you pull too hard too early, the materials might just be loose in there still, and might be pulling stuff into your mouth without noticing (depending on if you break it apart beforehand or just put a nice large crack-nug in there)
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Matilda Meffingnudge - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 04:04:22 EST bjBEGTIV No.298396 Reply
>What might have gone wrong?

You didnt suck your friend's dick?

What is this?

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- Sun, 15 Aug 2021 09:16:50 EST k/cdFM/q No.298406
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This shit is so hard to melt even using a jet lighter, and when using a bic I can't keep it hot enough to stay liquid while slowly inhaling. I'm relatively new to the pipe but this is still odd to me, what I find weirder is that it came from the same bag that I have been smoking. It also cracks back almost instantly.

The gear I got is cut for sure but after the first or second crack back I'm getting a nice spider web with lines coming from a single point. This shit is just acting so odd to me.

Here's a reference after a few crack backs, I don't remember how many just that the shit was being a bitch, but this is after the first hit.
David Fussledune - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:22:29 EST oJn8qtwO No.298414 Reply
yeah it looks alright to me, I don't know what to tell you OP, maybe it's just good dope?
DTMO - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 04:52:17 EST BFEUVLGV No.298441 Reply
Looks good. Appearance is a terrible indicator though. Extremely unreliable. For what it's worth cut gear will smoke up at a lower temp than actual meth. Maybe this is the first bit of real gear in the bag?

Rx stim replacement therapy

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- Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:09:26 EST ZAF4UORi No.298418
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has anyone here had experience, firsthand or otherwise, with switching from illicit, "street"-bought crystal meth to another prescription stimulant(s) with the help of their healthcare provider?
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m - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:43:01 EST F+eTwIBq No.298426 Reply
Yeah, that's why I suggested a dopamine releaser to reeplace a primarily dopamine releaser. So again, concerta/ritalin for ritalin/coke/crack etc., and a form of amphetamine (e.g. adderall xr, dexedrine xr, or even better vyvanse) for dopamine releasers (amph/meth/most major RC stimulants I've aware of).

Naltrexone is a good idea, but frankly you're probably prescribed at least 10x higher dosage than is optimal. Lithium isn't the preferred antipsychotic these days (for good reason...it's literally toxic), but it might be best for you if you've been on it for decades and it works for you.

I assume you're on 50mg naltrexone per day. I prefer no more than 5mg/day, probably between like ~1 or 1.5-4.5mg/day. 2.5mg/day would be fine for most non-opioid users like you. The reason I don't like 50mg/day is because it blocks your dopamine receptors too much, like even "natural" highs from exercise, sex, food, etc. Even 5mg/day will partially block that stuff. If you want to modulate your natural dopamine production numbers without excessively blocking their receptor sites, then something like ~0.25-1.5mg should be good.

You likely won't be able to get a script for doses this low. You'll have to make a volumetric solution with the 50mg tablets. If you want a guide on doing that step by step, just ask and I'll copy pasta one I've written before.

Anyways, ~50mg/day naltrexone will likely block a lot of the effects from both ritalin or amphetamine.
m - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:55:35 EST F+eTwIBq No.298427 Reply

Also, if your psychiatrist is reluctant to prescribe actual amphetamine instead of ritalin, you could specifically suggest Vyvanse by saying it's the most "abuse-proof" version. If you IV/snort/etc. it as an administration route, at best it's got to be converted into actual d-amph by your red blood cells cleaving the lysine molecule off or whatever. Worst case scenario it won't activate at all. You basically have to/should just take it orally. So it's an undefeatable XR mechanism. It also releases much more smoothly than most XR mechanisms (even more smoothly than the laser-bore hole in the end of Concerta capsules).

As long as your insurance will cover it, go with those. Make sure your psychiatrist understands that 70mg Vyvanse (the largest sold in the US) are the equivalent of only like ~20mg Dexedrine XR.
DTMO - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 03:21:48 EST BFEUVLGV No.298440 Reply
Intuitively it seems like replacing drugs with those of like action is the way to go. However the evidence actually suggests that reuptake inhibitors are more effective in substitute therapy for those trying to quit releasers and vice versa.
Why this is I could only guess. Maybe having something that doesn't quite scratch the itch is better in terms of actually staying off street stimulants.

Mixing Stimulants

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- Tue, 10 Aug 2021 11:58:00 EST OUjdnbQ5 No.298383
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does mixing stimulants result in any synergetic effect or is it better to just consume more of one stimulant?
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Sidney Buzzshit - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:09:38 EST jOvJiJPb No.298429 Reply
Never know if you don't try
Sidney Buzzshit - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:12:01 EST jOvJiJPb No.298430 Reply
Never know if you don't try ;)
Are you gonna be a pussy or you gonna drink two 5 hour enegies, half a gram of morish MDMA and hit the Chucky cheese ball pit?
delta cunt - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 01:49:30 EST OUjdnbQ5 No.298438 Reply
>There's additional reasons I'd rather not get into because my post is already quite lengthy.
no keep going anon this is very informative

methylphenidate and alcohol

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- Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:59:34 EST cyMxTtEu No.298428
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what's exactly the effect of this combo? can I add tramadol to it?
m - Wed, 18 Aug 2021 02:17:35 EST F+eTwIBq No.298431 Reply
>what's the effect of this combo?

Basically nothing special. In theory it creates the metabolite ethylphenidate (a previously commonly used tame RC stimulant variant of ritalin), but the literature I remember reading suggested that such small portions would be metabolized into ethylphenidate that it's unlikely to account for more than a few % (under ~5%) of the cumulative, subjective, psychoactive profile of the whole experience.

So basically it's just like...getting drunk while on ritalin.

>can I add tramadol to it?

Tramadol is generally not advised to be combined with stimulants. Stimulants generally lower a user's seizure threshold, which increases the risk of seizures from tramadol. If you must take tramadol, please remember to stagger it by 50mg every 15min at the most, preferably every 30min. If you can cut your 50mg dosages in half somehow, then in theory taking 25mg every 15min would be even better. This will increase the portion of metabolites converted into the more euphoric, less "tweaky," and much less seizure-causing O-DSMT.

Helping cocaine comedown to go to sleep

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- Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:18:34 EST AVyHQTiT No.298150
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So i've been doing bumps like all day and i'm ready to sleep. I ate 4 2mg xanax, and 2 30mg mirtazapine to help me sleep but i still feel wide awake. Any tips to help fall asleep after a coke binge?
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Barnaby Gullymeg - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 08:59:10 EST oGLcks4X No.298391 Reply
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Temazepam and midazolam are much better benzos if you just want to pass out. Lyrica/pregabalin is also amazing. I doesn't make you tired, but when you just go to bed after taking huge dose, you will soon be so relaxed that it is almost impossible to not fall a sleep. Also I you can handle edibles, I would recommend having a huge dose combined with Lyrica and sleep is guaranteed. Of course some people just get super paranoid on weed if take eat or smoke it during stim comedown, so be careful with it.
m - Sat, 14 Aug 2021 01:14:52 EST F+eTwIBq No.298399 Reply

Ambien can help if you don't do too much or if it's not too much of the full equation of downers you're taking (e.g. say 2mg xanax, one ambien tablet idk if they're 10 or 20mg or what I can't remember, maybe 10mg).

Personally I refer and recommend lunesta instead of ambien. If a doc is willing to offer z drugs but not benzos, your options are ambien, lunesta, and sonata. I've either never had sonata or took it a few times along with other z-drugs/benzos, but basically sonata and lunesta aren't anywhere near as trippy as ambien.

Lunesta's pharmacology profile is more similar to common sleepy benzos like temazepam without the strong anxiolytic/muscle relaxant effects, or perhaps a duller version of xanax. It's a less specific agonist in terms of the various GABAa receptor subtypes (just like many/most benzos), whereas ambien is rather highly selective towards the GABAa receptor sub-type #1 and possibly #2 (definitely #1). That's the primary sub-type for the sleepiness of benzos. Lunesta/most benzos also occupy/activate at least the receptor sub-types 1, 2, 3, 4, and (pretty sure) 5.

Lastly, sonata has a very short half-life of just 60-90 minutes. After looking it up, Sonata isn't as receptor sub-type specific as ambien, but it's more sub-type specific than lunesta/benzos.

So yeah OP, I'd suggest lunesta, etizolam/real xanax, or perhaps midazolam/temazepam if you could get it somehow.

Legal over the counter stimulant

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- Thu, 22 Jul 2021 17:10:11 EST WFVwF4w/ No.298300
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I'm looking for a legal over the counter stimulant that doesn't show up on drug test and isn't caffeine does that exist?
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Isabella Blatherhall - Sat, 31 Jul 2021 19:09:40 EST RaDWTH31 No.298360 Reply
Phenythylamine and maob inhibitor? its not great but it certainly fucking works. great for nasal congestion too. My go to cold remedy actually along with a babby dose of psudeo and dph
Isabella Blatherhall - Sat, 31 Jul 2021 19:11:45 EST RaDWTH31 No.298361 Reply
also f phenibut is solid and would not show up on a test. I do warn you that taking too much is pretty shit and its like phenibut od turbofied. combine with phenthylamine for extra dopamine fun
Jenny Seffingfoot - Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:03:07 EST jOvJiJPb No.298386 Reply
Hell yeah. Good choice. Eph and especially ECA stack is a nice daily upper. Cheap too. Highly recommend.
Clenbuterol is pretty nice and cheap. At the start you get somewhat decent shakes but you get used to it super quick. Apparently if you combine it with a supplement called "keto" it negates the tolerance effects.
Old school Jack3d and DMAA in general are a really nice middle ground between coffee and amphetamines. I wish I could find a reliable source of bulk DMAA.

Idiot brain sleep

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- Mon, 09 Aug 2021 06:27:52 EST AqbHkPp2 No.298380
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>Have responsible day
>Plan on taking stims in the morning
>Take a valium and practice good sleep hygiene
>Excited about morning/next day
>Racing thoughts, cant sleep
>Get two hours sleep even though im not stimmed
>Wind up stimming on almost no sleep for no fucking good reason

Every time. Fucking idiot brain doesn't realize I'm trying to take care of it and keep it from dying quicker
Priscilla Buzzforth - Mon, 09 Aug 2021 07:27:18 EST 82OGhzx6 No.298381 Reply
Are you me? Try to exercise more and take melatonin, sometimes works but yah i could take 10 valiums and still get the racing thoughts, just more relaxed racing thoughts. i hope you get to hit the sweet spot soon dude
Polly Tillingson - Mon, 09 Aug 2021 08:46:45 EST AqbHkPp2 No.298382 Reply
Thanks bro. I got about 3 hours, took 40mg of 2fma, so im in the sweet spot now :)

Im more worried about the inevitable muscle aches that come from lack of sleep, but that comes later... right now im feeling good.
Nice thing about this shit is the crash is more of a gradual decline, like after 14 hours im always ready to sleep even without any aid.

Dexamphetamine IV dosage

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- Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:26:14 EST 1NqbfZuq No.298376
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So I'm wondering what a solid dose of dexamphetamine IV'd is.
I realise that Dex is only 30% more bioavailable via IV than orally. I always use wheel filters cos otherwise banging pills is retarded.i was gonna go with 100mg as I was previously a heavy meth user and typically injected 150-200mg at a time.
Is 100mg too much or not enough? I considered banging 200mg but the logistics of getting it into a single shot would be much harder. I consumed about 80mg orally the other day and that was pretty good, but didn't get me quite where I wanted to be, plus I like injecting.

Ok, that done with, how much do I shoot?
Shitting Blythespear - Mon, 02 Aug 2021 00:53:22 EST o23pIvqG No.298377 Reply
have a friend who had a stroke after IVing 200mg. Tread lightly. All of that at once can seriously fuck up ur heart
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- Wed, 28 Jul 2021 17:16:14 EST cpVI3P9a No.298331
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I get so much anxiety from amphetamines that I cannot do anything, it's like a persistent sense of dread sadness, and it completely disables me
How do I overcome this? benzos? I really do need the energy and focus capacity uppers provide
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Nell Chunnerdock - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:43:47 EST M0E5JJI7 No.298337 Reply
remember a-pvp, better than addys
Hamilton Blonderlodge - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 23:14:32 EST abAwiASC No.298338 Reply
Lol that shit is nuts when you dose too high/much.
One of my favourite trip reports is written by a dude who went completely psychotic and believed he was selected for "DARPA" Agency. Usual schizo shit but well recounted tale stim psychosis

Chain Smoking

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- Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:01:33 EST +EOOjhGF No.296990
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Hello /stim/, how many people here chain smoke on their psychostimulants? I'm on Adderall, and I seem to smoke every 30 minutes. Been coughing up a lot of phlegm lately, so this definitely isn't good. It just feels so good, though.

I live a very laid back life, just basically live off of government agencies financially, take recreational drugs, and that's about it. I'm a complete recluse.

Been taking Adderall with other drugs lately, smoking, drinking coffee, and listening to metal.

Here's a thread I created in /m/:https://boards.420chan.org/m/thread/457082/heavy-metal

About heavy metal in general if anybody's interested. I also listen to Psytrance/Goa trance when on psychedelics.

So, yeah, I know chain smoking is a common thing on stimulants. But I really need to stop. I smoke Marlboro Black's (100s), which are real mediocre cigarettes.
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Speeddreamin' - Wed, 10 Feb 2021 23:26:54 EST 0S+NhQUk No.297161 Reply
Likely dopamine-related activity of nicotine annd serotonin-related activity of harmalas probably linked to amphetamine-related correlation to polydrug use to find potentiative and complimentary combos.

In my own opinion, nicotine has a sinister relation to signalling stress-relief without doing so necessarily, and amphetamines drive up cortisol release in the body

Cigarettes always tease "more, more", and amphetamine tends to solidify "stick to/pay attemtion to this one task (hyperfocus)... You smoke more 'cause the body wishes to treat amp side effects?? I know the feel

Hedda Trotlock - Sun, 07 Mar 2021 19:25:57 EST xdygfRJ2 No.297377 Reply
Check out the band ISIS, especially the album Panopticon. Great metal to travel into a trance with, pretty progressive so perfect for heightened focus.
Martha Gunkinwill - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:08:04 EST cpVI3P9a No.298336 Reply
just tried this, didn't feel anything beyond the usual buzz
you probably just felt the effects of oxygen deprivation and a high amount of nicotine at once


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- Wed, 02 Sep 2020 11:32:54 EST HViVe14f No.295720
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Will 4f-mph help me study? Is the comedown bad? How do I cycle it without getting addicted? I feel really tired and dont get anything from the work I put into it so I want something that boosts my mental productivity.
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Esther Nicklehall - Tue, 20 Jul 2021 04:11:26 EST 050Bl5Gc No.298274 Reply
I've been using 4f-mph on and off since then and the extreme comedown anxiety is basically gone, I just feel a little lethargic but still kinda wired afterwards. I miss the racing, paranoid thoughts I got the first few times. Even though it was "bad" it still made me feel alive in a way that I haven't in years. My head just feels so empty these days, it's hard to even think at all.
m - Tue, 20 Jul 2021 04:21:13 EST F+eTwIBq No.298275 Reply

Oh wow. Granted I only got a sack of 4f-mph once and it was ~3-6 years ago, but the comedown wasn't any worse than ritalin IR or focalin IR for me (which IMO have shitty comedowns as is). It worked fine/good...for being a solid ritalin analog. It's one of the less "messed with," off shoot analogs, and it's had a decent history in terms of track record.

>how to not get physically dependent
physical dependence on hard stims is basically a meme unless you're an idiot and have taken like ~100-150+ mg of pharma d-amph/day, some 24hr periods maybe 200mg+.

What you likely actually care about is tolerance, yeah? If so...

>how often to take without rapid tolerance over the long-term, e.g. next ~3-10yr

Once every 7-10 days, max 3x/mo. Anything more than 2x/wk is just done. I've ruined stims for myself from daily use. I've never even had MDMA, but between my crazy d-amph tolly and low dose SSRI use, I'd likely not even feel anything significant. Don't be a dumbass like me.

DTMO - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:28:47 EST Vrgx0VAN No.298328 Reply
>Physical dependence on hard stims is basically a meme

I agree and I was smoking a good few points of meth a day for a couple years there. Yeah you feel shitty and lethargic and maybe cranky and depressed for a while but compared to drugs that cause real withdrawal it's pretty minor.
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free meth ???

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- Tue, 27 Jul 2021 06:35:37 EST GZ8zUWF8 No.298326
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yooooooooo i haven't been here in years and y'all ain't gunna believe this

so i dropped my phone in a pool the other day, sucks i was being an idiot, got the sim card out and went to the phone store the day after. i go right before rush hour and lucky me no one was at the store. i walk right in and i see something strange on the floor. now i've done meth a bunch throughout my life, enough for it to haunt me in my dreams to this daybut i don't rly anymore bc of all the badmind shit, i'm not some lost idiot wasting my time blowing all my poverty wages on drugs anymore and last few times i was absolute idiot and smoked til i got brain zaps for a week and swore it off. it's been 4 years since i last had it and as ya know, once an addict always an addict (and it's like under 1.4g so like it'd have to do somethin crazy to rly fuck myself up w it)

t's not bad either def some iso shit but hey free drugs..... at the phone store lol
who wanna hit?
Charlotte Cleblinggold - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 06:38:28 EST GZ8zUWF8 No.298327 Reply
sorry this is linguistically fucked i can feel my face

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