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The ketogenic diet increases adenosine - Caffeine related

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- Wed, 07 Aug 2019 22:46:00 EST NfYy/AS+ No.291859
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This is an interesting read, keto seems to upregulate adenosine. Caffeine is an antagonist of adenosine receptors. So this suggests to me that keto would be particularly helpful for coffee drinkers/caffeine consumers. High intensity exercise also increases adenosine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769009/
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Emma Nimbleham - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 05:38:29 EST aBrn27uE No.292451 Reply
>>292439
I'm not sure what I was thinking when I made this thread, chronic caffeine usage upregulates adenosine too.
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Ernest Chuzzleman - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 04:30:48 EST o5xna3wX No.292493 Reply
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I want a boost
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John Shittingstock - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 23:47:31 EST OM8bi81d No.292524 Reply
What about keto and stims in general?

Comedown advice for a newbie?

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- Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:25:16 EST K5aLvK4P No.292465
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My friend gave me Lisdexamfetamine pills (Elvanse 30mg, same as Vyvanse I guess) to help with my research and studies. I work at a university math department and this autumn is just killing me. Way too much work on difficult subjects. The pills work wonders: I can maintain focus throughout the day and I enjoy doing what I'm doing even though it can be tedious at times. The problem is that I can't handle the comedowns.

I've been taking 30mg every morning for the past 8 days. I don't redose, I don't use other stimulants, such as coffee, while high. I eat and drink like I normally would, and I take supplements (Vitamin Bs, Magnesium, fish oil). Still, every night when I start to come down I just want to kill myself. I've always been sensitive to stimulants, but comedowns this bad make me feel like I'm doing something wrong. 30mgs is supposed to be a small dosage, but when the effects start to wear off I get teary-eyed, can't think for shit, don't want to do anything, everything feels bland and sad.

I don't want to start taking benzos or smoke weed to take the edge off. The best thing would be to just stop and find a way to manage without any stimulants.
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Phyllis Murddale - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 12:09:55 EST dBYzmxqp No.292483 Reply
>>292465
I feel like you answered your own question a bit there. The only advice I can think of is stuff you've already covered. If you are ok with having a drink of an evening that should do it.
Try not to use it everyday too
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dr. m - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 22:00:35 EST l5nWHER3 No.292492 Reply
>>292465

Definitely don't use it 8 days in a row man. Use it once a week and three times a month at the most, and never, never ever miss a night of sleep in exchange for using stimulants unless there's a hard deadline that can't be avoided.

30mg vyvanse is an extremely, extremely low dose, considering I'm pretty sure 70mg vyvanse either equal to or even weaker than 30mg adderall IR (I'm pretty sure 70mg vyvanse is closer to like 20-25mg addy IR or maybe even a bit less). Not only that, when compared to an equivalent dose of adderall IR or even adderall XR, vyvanse's comedown is a LOT, LOT, LOTTT less severe! I don't mean to gatekeep doing stimulants or talk down to you like drug usage is some sort of contest, but if you can't even handle the comedown from vyvanse, which is basically dexedrine super XR (dexedrine being a smoother comedown than adderall, and the longer/slower the release system, the smoother the comedown as well), you most likely can't handle any other semi-serious stimulants, or almost all stimulants for that matter.

Have you tried ritalin/concerta? It usually has an even worse crash for more people, but everyone is different. Definitely either stop taking it entirely, or do a quick taper over just ~2-4 days maximum to minimize discomfort (not medically necessary).

Stick to mondafinil and its analogues man (except for adrafinil, as it's not good for your liver). Possibly consider various racetams as well. When used daily, stimulants significantly lose effectiveness within just ~2-4 months, particularly in those that don't genuinely have ADHD/ADD. Even before I abused my script (roughly ~9-10 months of daily use as prescribed every time), within ~3 months they had lost between ~30-45% effectiveness depending on the aspect it improved my quality of life. Within maybe 5-6 months, I'd say they had lost ~66-75% of their original effectiveness. Daily stim use is never a good idea, especially in doses above the equivalent of ~20-30mg adderall per day.

Best stimulant to jack off on

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- Tue, 01 Oct 2019 06:17:36 EST SATG7LJq No.292476
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What's the best stimulant for jacking off? 4-FA, 2-FA, 4-FMA, Speed, 6-APB, 3-FMA etc... I only have experience with speed and yeehoo does it feel good! ... What other stimulants are suited for this antic?
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Lydia Mimmertat - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:13:27 EST FNf/GXcU No.292487 Reply
For me it’s mephedrone, by far.

Haven’t tried many of the analogues, my experiences are mainly with speed, coke and bad Tina. Speed comes second, it’s especially great if you got some GHB. For actually fapping and not just accumulating terabytes of porn on your PC, mephedrone is a lot LOT better than anything else I’ve tried.

Adderall

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- Fri, 16 Nov 2018 00:56:50 EST lqAw0jNX No.289137
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Is the Teva BRAND NAME adderall and Teva GENERIC adderall (IR) two different pills?

or are they same thing?

I've been taking Teva Adderall (orange pills) for the past year and it hasn't worked at all. I heard today they brand name adderall is available and Teva makes it. I'm wondering if the brand name adderall is a different pill from the orange Teva one I'm taking.
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Charlotte Seblingsten - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:40:04 EST IJsz2f3b No.292466 Reply
>>292463
yeah dude back in like 2010 I was eating poppies every day and after a couple months they stopped working

it was weird
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Cedric Benkinbury - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:44:47 EST +m2TUOm6 No.292469 Reply
>>292463
Nope. I’m sure it still works for you, but you may have just developed a tolerance. Try exercising (cardio), eating right, and sleeping 8-9 hours a night.
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Beatrice Honeyworth - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:56:09 EST s8RNJ9VI No.292473 Reply
>>292469

I took a tolerance break already. I took an old pill from an old pill bottle and it worked perfectly as well.

ANYONE GOT THAT NEED FOR SPEED?

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- Mon, 28 May 2018 21:12:50 EST dKCkoX90 No.286563
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BUMP IF YOU GOT THAT NEED FOR SPEED AND POST SPEEDY MUSIC BITCH!!!!!!!

SNORT SNORT SNORT. ahhhhh yaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3iA2w5lIo
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Beatrice Mellerlutch - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:05:49 EST Ovxp0SJm No.292458 Reply
>>290172
siiiick thank you assclowns for uploading all tracks!
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Simon Hupperfoot - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:28:10 EST IJsz2f3b No.292459 Reply
>>289842
I bet that shit would be very very dirty as far as the high goes and probably gross for your body

Speed + Somadril or Benzo

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- Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:05:47 EST 2v4GNcTY No.292452
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How is speed together with benzo or somadril? if consumed the right way so the benzo dont dull the speed effects, how is this combo? I guess it removes any anxiety of the speed ... anyone can tell. Also would you prefer to take somadril instead of benzo for this combo
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P-5 - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:39:34 EST N8YS2fA0 No.292453 Reply
>>292452
How on earth did you manage to acquire carisoprodol in this day and age?
That sounds like a VERY desirable and safe combo; I've never had it myself but it 'sounds' better than benzos to me. Just don't drink more than one or two drinks on it and you should be having a great time.
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David Brapperwill - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:56:54 EST iWFWXy+4 No.292454 Reply
>>292452
You need a few tries to get your ratios right, but then it's fucking awesome. For example I usually take 2mg of clonazepam or alprazolam (with my tolerance it's very light dose, very subtle but still calming) and sniff about 200mg of speed (if it's ok quality, sometimes I need more, ofc I'm talking about street amph, not meth). It gives me nice stimulation and allows to binge for much longer without paranoia setting in. I don't know about soma though, never had it in my life.

Saliva tests for probation

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- Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:58:49 EST VVai6zMO No.292357
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After finally getting like 3 doctors notes and almost having my kidney explode due to a stuck stone. The probation department finally relented (under threat of lawsuit) about making me only drink 16oz of water A DAY (Dr wants 2.5L of urine output, so more then that consumed in water).

Theyre switching me to Saliva tests, which I know have short detection windows... I dont use much (i have legit RXs) and if im ever called suddenly and happen to be dirty ( i test at home ) then I come up with some BS excuse, usually works since ive passed over like 30 tests so far.

My question is...do those saliva detox things work? like the mouthwash? Ive heard mixed results with the urine shit...but how about the saliva stuff? Same thing? Pure bullshit? Or different?
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Archie Bardwell - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 23:33:30 EST IJsz2f3b No.292446 Reply
>>292374
honey comb tripe is delicious in a beefy asian soup with lots of fresh flavors you know

maybe you should get some fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

IV crack

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- Sat, 21 Sep 2019 12:59:52 EST fD+/kC3s No.292411
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Why did nobody ever tell me that this is the only good way to consume rock? It's theoretically not much more potent, but the insane rush aside, it lasts WAY longer. I would have never believed anyone who told me that I could make a single 10 rock last longer than a regular coke high. I always was used to rock being a gigantic waste of money that comes down like 10 minutes after you stop smoking, but when I banged it last night I was high for over an hour off a single 10 sack shot. I've banged other drugs before, and aside from the rush, it was just a more potent way to consume it. I hate needles and I've never tried to hit myself and honestly don't want to learn because I don't want the horrible shit associated with chronic iv use, but shit, shooting rock feels like an entirely different drug than smoking it and it doesn't feel like a huge waste of money. I'm no stranger to iv, but why the fuck is it so different when you bang a rock? No other drug I've done has such a drastic difference in high when you shoot it compared to other ROAs. Not saying you guys should bang rock, but smoking it is a total waste imo. Like, I still snort dope even though I've banged it, but I would never want to smoke a rock again if I paid for it or I'd feel like I'm totally screwing myself over as if I decided to take H orally. I never knew I could get high all night on only $30 of rock.
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Ian Sicklebirk - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 00:57:43 EST 3eyIRNoo No.292429 Reply
>>292411
coke is a waste unless you IV it. i agree. this is due to a combination of higher bioavailability (duh) and most coke being cut to shit just like most heroin is cut to shit. meth is often much more pure than coke and black and costs like 1/5th+ of the cost. i love my $10 grams.

>>292413
kek

boof benz

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- Sat, 21 Sep 2019 04:04:09 EST vl/xXhwZ No.292406
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Can I boof benzedrex or will I Top Ten Anime Deaths

how would I extract it so it's not more than 10 ml?
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Rebecca Blackfoot - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:05:32 EST xi133h6u No.292412 Reply
>>292406
Easy. Just add 10 ml of lemon juice or vinegar per inhaler to a ziploc bag with the cotton. One ml of fluid will contain 25 mg of propylhexedrine. In theory you should be able to use it rectally I guess? I used to give myself enemas of vinegar (laced with poppy alkaloids of course) and nothing bad happened to my ass. The only other thing to consider is the drug itself. I know injecting it killed people, maybe because it kicked in so fast by injection? I don't know if that would apply here or not.

My question is, why plug it at all? 10 ml of Benzedrex lemon juice tastes fine in a big glass of lemonade. I like your style though. My Discord is 112029#3689 if you ever wanna share recipes and porn.

Meth users in pop culture

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- Thu, 19 Sep 2019 16:15:27 EST 4LNoc61i No.292389
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I think it's getting more socially acceptable. I just played GTA V and learned that the widely regarded best character is a meth user, Trevor Phillips. I wonder why they make you huff gas instead of smoke meth in-game. They let Franklin smoke weed and Michael drink booze. Doesn't seem fair, but hey, baby steps.

Post any others you're aware of (no, coke/Adderall don't count)
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Fucking Dopperbug - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:21:34 EST 9bHeOEEZ No.292392 Reply
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>>292389
>I wonder why they make you huff gas instead of smoke meth in-game.
cause' they're retards
meth seems to be socially acceptable as a joke for some time now
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Basil Fallerman - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 11:04:14 EST 9Hb/Bgl1 No.292410 Reply
>>292389
I could swear to god in one of the cut-away scenes he is seen explicity smoking a bowl. They obviously didnt allow you to do it on your own terms for some dumb political reasons

stim fap

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- Wed, 04 Sep 2019 01:49:18 EST LluXR6CF No.292226
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smoking shards and snorting adderall and i feel a strong fap coming on. what do you fap to when yr all stimm'd out? post pictures videos anything plx & thank you
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Wesley Clandlenat - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 05:10:11 EST qoKhtLf1 No.292379 Reply
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>>292372
I did say it's a guilty pleasure.
It's just so over the top and silly, my dick needs it.
Nothing like porn that you can fap to while giggling to yourself when it goes too over the top.
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Isabella Buzzfoot - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 07:20:46 EST UpvlAvO/ No.292407 Reply
I used meth for the first time in 3 years last night with my best friend and his fuck buddy. I considered myself straight before tonight but once it kicked in, all bets were off.

We were watching a movie and my girlfriend started to jerk me off under the blankets. My mate started coming up and then got his cock out which I'd never seen before. He asked to sick my sick while my girlfriend touched it and I just gave in and let it happen. I then started to jerk him off, trying to get him hard. We fool around for awhile and keep watching the movie until the other girl arrives.

She gets here and is pretty drunk, wearing a skin tight dress that makes her look so fuckable. Pretty soon and she started jerking my mate off while I was getting jerked off by my girlfriend. The girls really enjoyed it, and me and my friend would take turns touching each other.

We dosed up again and then took things to the bedroom and we paired up to fuck. My mate couldn't get hard and I could see the other girl was getting frustrated. She asked me to fuck her but me and my girlfriend set some ground rules that we wouldn't fuck anyone else as we haven't don't this stuff before.

It was so fucking hot, I was pounding my girlfriend while the other girl looked on submissively, I choked her a bit but wouldn't let her touch my dick.

My girlfriend went to sleep and we carried things on outside on our balcony so she could sleep. I was naked apart from a dressing gown and kept teasing the other girl with my cock. I let her touch and suck it a bit but wouldn't fuck her because it would break the rules. This just made her hornier, so I fingered her while my mate watched, as he still tried to get hard. It was really hot being in the dominant role, my mate was jerking himself silly but was helpless to do anything else but look on while I messed around with his girl.

Won't use meth again for a while, my brain is feeling a bit scrambled now but I'll be right. Keen to explore more stuff sexually now.
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Isabella Buzzfoot - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 07:20:46 EST UpvlAvO/ No.292408 Reply
I used meth for the first time in 3 years last night with my best friend and his fuck buddy. I considered myself straight before tonight but once it kicked in, all bets were off.

We were watching a movie and my girlfriend started to jerk me off under the blankets. My mate started coming up and then got his cock out which I'd never seen before. He asked to sick my sick while my girlfriend touched it and I just gave in and let it happen. I then started to jerk him off, trying to get him hard. We fool around for awhile and keep watching the movie until the other girl arrives.

She gets here and is pretty drunk, wearing a skin tight dress that makes her look so fuckable. Pretty soon and she started jerking my mate off while I was getting jerked off by my girlfriend. The girls really enjoyed it, and me and my friend would take turns touching each other.

We dosed up again and then took things to the bedroom and we paired up to fuck. My mate couldn't get hard and I could see the other girl was getting frustrated. She asked me to fuck her but me and my girlfriend set some ground rules that we wouldn't fuck anyone else as we haven't don't this stuff before.

It was so fucking hot, I was pounding my girlfriend while the other girl looked on submissively, I choked her a bit but wouldn't let her touch my dick.

My girlfriend went to sleep and we carried things on outside on our balcony so she could sleep. I was naked apart from a dressing gown and kept teasing the other girl with my cock. I let her touch and suck it a bit but wouldn't fuck her because it would break the rules. This just made her hornier, so I fingered her while my mate watched, as he still tried to get hard. It was really hot being in the dominant role, my mate was jerking himself silly but was helpless to do anything else but look on while I messed around with his girl.

Won't use meth again for a while, my brain is feeling a bit scrambled now but I'll be right. Keen to explore more stuff sexually now.

Best stimulant for jacking off / sex

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- Fri, 20 Sep 2019 13:04:35 EST GFVv6Rli No.292402
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Whats the best stimulant/drug for sexual activities? I've heard 4-FA/2-FA are good but are they even better than regular speed for jerking off ... ? 5 meo mipt is supposed to be very sexual too . 4 mmc and 6 apb are candidates ... 2C-B also ... Whats the best sex experience you've had with what stimulant?
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Eugene Fashsture - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 20:20:40 EST +m2TUOm6 No.292403 Reply
>>292402
How about just enjoying natural sober sex you fucking degenerate.
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Phoebe Gipperlock - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 00:31:14 EST 3eyIRNoo No.292405 Reply
mdpv is called perv powder for a reason. i've never been so horny in my life. i'd say this is best candidate for jacking off, not so much for sex unless you start off by having sex and then switch over to fapping your tictac sized dick for another 10 hours after. you remember the story of that guy who stole his neighbors goat, neighbor called the cops, cops entered guys home to this dude dressed in womans bra and panties fucking a dead goat carcass with blood all over the place? however, i am very weary of what we categorize as research chemicals and any new products that have brief human consumption history. i dont trust those impossible burgers for instance.

we already have a list of the 'best' street drugs. we fully understand the risks, we understand the side effects, and they seem to have a lot less extreme health risks associated with them from occasional to moderate use.

meth/adderall are the go to. pretty similar and equally effective for long fap/fuck sessions. just dont do too much. taking a hit of weed can help when youre struggling to get fully hard or finish. sometimes you need a breather mid fuck to pack a bowl. i also like to mix in a downer like alcohol or a benzo to reduce heart rate which is increased from stimulants, weed, and physical activity. it also helps reduce muscle cramping.

Is it the caffeine or something else? (semi long post)

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- Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:04:28 EST 3vmzDLyz No.292383
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So I used to use speed pretty frequently when I was about 17 til I was 20. Always pure oharma d-amp or German speed paste from the net. I'm 24 now and haven't touched any sort of amphetamines in about 3 years. However, I went thru a pretty heavy caffeine use when working a job that required me to be there at 5am til 4pm. After I quit that job, I did well to not get myself that deep into a caffeine routine. I quit smoking/vaping nicotine and caffeine this spring. Since then, any time I have a cup of good string coffee (it's a treat myself kind of thing or when I REALLY need it) I end up like severely depressed and borderline suicidal about 4 hours after drinking it. I won't lie, it's almost akin to a rough comedown off of mixing meth and Mdma. It's so fucking bizarre. Green Tea & Chai Tea don't do this in the same dosage.
tl;dr
>is there something in coffee that isn't in tea that could potentially send someone into a major bout of depression and suicidal ideation?
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Cedric Cluddlespear - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:18:12 EST 3vmzDLyz No.292386 Reply
>>292385
I'm gonna go with probably the first option. I'm severely depressed and working on making my life better but it's hard in my position. I wouldn't say I'm more or less depressed than when I was a regular caffeine user but this definitely didnt used to happen.
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Milhouse - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:51:20 EST ZCuodLJP No.292387 Reply
>>292386
It's hard for everyone to see the progress they are making, you can't see the forest from the trees. Just keep working on bettering yourself and fighting depression and slowly but surely things will fall into place. Not saying bad things won't happen, life is full of adversity but you control how you react to it.
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Fucking Dopperbug - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:18:35 EST 9bHeOEEZ No.292391 Reply
>>292387
>but you control how you react to it
yeah but when it comes to depression it seems to be out of our control, I guess the only thing to do is try to better yourself and wait it out, it should resolve itself on it's own eventually

any protips for keeping your nose clear?

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- Thu, 19 Sep 2019 00:22:33 EST 2LYQe/LU No.292375
File: 1568866953521.jpg -(79517B / 77.65KB, 940x646) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. any protips for keeping your nose clear?
i rail 3-fpm erryday but its clogging up my nose and i'm no expert of this stuff so idk if it would help to like crush the HCI up more, or angle my straw differently, inhale quicker or slower.

i do use saline sprays to sort of clear it out. for those of you that snort stuff daily, how do you keep your nasal passages clear/nose from getting blocked? (other than the obvious things like cutting back, blowing your nose, etc)

i know railing stuff everyday isn't good but it is what it is.
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Martin Himmerforth - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:28:14 EST 8jEzWM0u No.292384 Reply
I use Benzedrex before (actually using it as intended) in addition to saline spray before and after. Works for me, but I don't snort anything very frequently

Keep in mind that Benzedrex can have rebound effects and make your nose more stuffy if you use it more than 3 days in a row. Maybe take a break from nasal and try rectal, oral, or sublingual

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