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- Fri, 16 Nov 2018 00:56:50 EST lqAw0jNX No.289137
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Is the Teva BRAND NAME adderall and Teva GENERIC adderall (IR) two different pills?

or are they same thing?

I've been taking Teva Adderall (orange pills) for the past year and it hasn't worked at all. I heard today they brand name adderall is available and Teva makes it. I'm wondering if the brand name adderall is a different pill from the orange Teva one I'm taking.
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:00:47 EST 5d96LKlR No.289138 Reply
now look I am too fucking lazy to look this up but generic/brand name makes literally no difference unless you are getting absolutely scammed. I would look at literally every possible factor in existence before considering whether the brand makes a difference. Unless you are getting your drugs off the darknet instead of from your local pharmacy, cause if its from the darknet god knows what you're getting.
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Caroline Blecklelock - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:02:40 EST lqAw0jNX No.289139 Reply
>>289138

you didn't answer the question at all

are there two different teva pills? or is the teva generic the same as the brand name adderall IR? (is it the same exact pill)?
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:06:55 EST 5d96LKlR No.289141 Reply
>>289139
shits federally regulated to be the same shit. so yeah. amphetamine salts from one manufacturer, amphetamine salts from the other manufacturer, other than the binding, if they are different they are doing illegal shit and they probably aren't doing that. i was making a big deal about getting it from the pharmacy for this reason. if it isn't from the pharmacy god knows what's happening, but if it is they'd better be the fucking same or a company is going to get it's ass fucked.
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:16:54 EST 5d96LKlR No.289144 Reply
>>289142
then the only difference will be the binders. which is the inactive stuff. so basically it doesn't make a difference, unfortunately.try taking two of em etc. if you want to see whether they'll do shit, or change what your expectations are. ime threshold level doses of drugs, of any class really, are quite hard to notice. taking above that level has actually helped me notice the doses my doctor has prescribed in the past and make use of my doctor's dosing regimen. or talk to your doctor because you might be in need of something else.
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Caroline Blecklelock - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:23:00 EST lqAw0jNX No.289145 Reply
>>289144

I know this already man.

This is what I want to know:

Can you go to a pharmacy and ask "Can I buy brand name adderall from Teva?" Then the next time to get a refill, you go and you ask "Can I buy the generic adderall from Teva?"

Are those two pills from the two different times the same exact pill? or are they different? That's what I'm asking.
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:23:57 EST 5d96LKlR No.289146 Reply
>>289144
as a side-ramble/backstory on this, my doctor prescribed me a super fucking low dose of diazepam/valium a couple years ago. followed what he said for a year, thought it was fucking useless. played with the dosage myself for a week or two before an apt, talked to him about what i'd found, and he changed my rx to something that really helped me. talking to your doctor before messing with your dose might be best, but at least for my psychiatrist he didn't care much as long as i wasn't abusing it. although perhaps i was scolded slightly.
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:24:37 EST 5d96LKlR No.289147 Reply
>>289145
they are the same pill. you can try asking. if they aren't the same you can try suing.
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:25:48 EST 5d96LKlR No.289148 Reply
>>289145
you can totally ask around for different manufacturers of amphetamine salts. but note that teva is the brand so teva generic/teva brand name makes no sense whatsoever, so ask for a different manufacturer of your ir amphetamine salts.
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Caroline Blecklelock - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:29:16 EST lqAw0jNX No.289149 Reply
>>289147

Hmm...so if it's the same pill and you're asking for the BRAND NAME Adderall (that Shire originally made) and Teva makes it...why the hell won't Teva just say they're making brand name and not the generic one?

doesn't make any sense whatsoever what teva is doing
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Caroline Chengerkedging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 02:17:30 EST 5d96LKlR No.289151 Reply
>>289149
alright i've done a lot of research on how the pharma industry functions and i've literally spent years studying chemistry and biochemistry so maybe that's why shit doesn't seem as obvious to you as it does to me. so i will explain it.

Adderall is, as far as my memory holds, a mix of a blend of amphetamine and the mirror of amphetamine (like a certain number of your right hands and your left hands - they are the same shit if you discount the fact your left is a mirror of the right), and they are salts of them. Salts are just a form of a drug where there's some other shit attached to help it do its thing. LIke cocaine is salt, crack doesn't need that shit. but the formula of it being a salt, and the mixture of mirrors of the chemical, that is

THE SAME IN ALL ADDERALL IR

adderall er has some fancy chemistry shit to slowly release it into you.

when a company first patents (thanks capitalism) a new drug/form of a drug (both can be copyrighted thanks to how fucked our system is), it is the only company that can make it. Teva is a company. I get my diazepam from teva. But this patent has expired on both what you are getting and what I am getting. But the patent is on the stuff that actually matters and makes you feel stuff differently, etc. The bindings (stuff that make it the color/shape/whatever as needed) can be whatever the company whats to make. That's the difference it being teva makes. its the stuff that has no difference on what the drug itself is, just how it looks.

its like if you get your brand new iphone in a fancy apple box vs. in a cardboard box. shits an iphone, the only thing that changes is the box.

thats the difference between your teva adderall, and generic adderall, and whatever the fuck else. the patent on adderall has long expired (i hope, i havent looked it up), so theres probably 500 companies making the same shit but in different cardboard boxes.
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Phineas Backlestone - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:41:54 EST 1CqhhddN No.289157 Reply
Nobody makes brand name Adderall IRs anymore to my knowledge.

The history is hazy but Teva basically acquired the rights to brand name, original Adderall IRs but never continued making them. Teva only makes generic formulations which can only be called "bla bla amphetamine salts and dextroamphetamine". I think the only brand names that exist are Addetall XRs and Vyvanse.
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Lydia Chudgekock - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:06:14 EST o9s+u5Qs No.289158 Reply
>>289157
Tevas are great btw. If you don't like them try Sandoz/Eon Labs. Internet placebo nerds generally like them.
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Nigel Wonderwat - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 21:31:16 EST 7AWvojjg No.289162 Reply
I liked the pajeet-aurobindo adderall I had a lot so if they're as bad as people say the good stuff must be bomb.
Meanwhile I'm pretty sure these mallinckrodt dexedrine are inconsistent as fuck. And the pill binders are crumbly garbage, and way too fucking big for the (alleged) dose.
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Jenny Memmledale - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:06:44 EST 91WFoPNx No.289164 Reply
Noob stim user here, does it really make a difference what kind of brand the ritalin is?

This one time by accident I got these blue and white gel capsules full of little white beads and those were the best with the best comedown, but I don't know what they're called.

I have to go to cvs, so whats the best kind? I really hate the comedown of ritalin and so I'll only ever take it when absolutely necessary for study.

Also, since ritalin makes me feel like a no good terrible garbage person would cocaine be a better alternative for studying? Is the comedown any better?
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Frederick Herrychetch - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:10:00 EST o9s+u5Qs No.289165 Reply
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>>289162
>pajeet-aurobindo adderall
I thought they were okay until I read about their pajeet quality control problems. They're probably okay but I'll stay the fuck away from them. Ask your doctor or pharmacist to fill with Teva, the pills are great. The footballs are sweetened, taste great, work great, are pressed pretty hard and you can snap them in half easily. Other companies literally aren't even trying with their boring circular shit. Teva makes the Adderall experience feel like eating candy.

>Noob stim user here, does it really make a difference what kind of brand the ritalin is?
People go hysterical over Adderall generics on the internet. Look it up it's kinda funny, especially the Aurobindo brand. I want to say there's not a big difference but I've read a lot of complaints from paranoid stim users and maybe they're right.
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Cyril Gerringkadging - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:04:33 EST nInklxEy No.289167 Reply
>>289158

Teva is doing absolutely nothing for me....I mean, I'm hungry all the time on the new teva pills. Is this even adderall anymore? and no it isn't tolerance because I took a couple old pills and it worked like magic
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Cyril Gerringkadging - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:07:17 EST nInklxEy No.289168 Reply
>>289137

Btw apparently there is a brand name adderall IR that teva makes. If you look at their official website's catalogue, it's a different pill. It has dp or AD on the back of the pill. It's supposed to be the original formula.
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Nigel Wonderwat - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:33:12 EST 7AWvojjg No.289169 Reply
>>289165
>The footballs are sweetened, taste great, work great, are pressed pretty hard and you can snap them in half easily.
Does this interfere with or enhance their bumpability? That's what was also good about the aurobindos, they were tiny and a beauty to cut up. And bumping these dexies is an ordeal.

>I've read a lot of complaints from paranoid stim users and maybe they're right.
The problem with tweakers is they're already crazy so nobody believes them when they bring up a legitimate issue. But I think that cooking amphetamines, separating the isomers and such, is a pretty messy process so I have no problem believing that these shitty pharma labs are fudging their numbers and saying "close enough."
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Frederick Herrychetch - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:42:34 EST o9s+u5Qs No.289170 Reply
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>>289168
I see what you're talking about and they ARE listed as Adderall®. Never seen these pills available anywhere except fake meth presses.

If they were available we wouldn't need to argue over generics so it looks like they aren't.
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Frederick Herrychetch - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:53:06 EST o9s+u5Qs No.289171 Reply
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>>289169
>Does this interfere with or enhance their bumpability?
Only use them sublingually/oral but I think so. Tevas contain a lot more "stuff" than plain generics. When I dissolve them in water there's a cloud of insoluble filler that sinks to the bottom.

My second go-to brand is Sandoz/Eon Labs. They disintegrate extremely fucking fast and there's so little filler that it looks like it dissolves perfectly in water. They also work okay I guess. But seriously, they dissolve REALLY fucking fast. Aurobindos leave a chalk-like residue under my tongue. Sandoz practically vanishes.

I actually have a water bottle with dissolved Sandoz pills right now and I honestly can't tell if there's any filler at the bottom. They use a lot of food coloring though. I only dissolved one pill and the water's radioactive blue.
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Cyril Gerringkadging - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:59:12 EST nInklxEy No.289172 Reply
>>289170

I mean, it's on their official website so Teva does make the official brand name Adderall. Not sure why they aren't available...I think you have to get the pharmacy to order them and they're very expensive.
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Matilda Shittingbanks - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:36:09 EST +m2TUOm6 No.289174 Reply
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>>289151
>they are the same shit if you discount the fact your left is a mirror of the right
No. Levoamphetamine (the left-handed isomer) is vastly different from dextroamphetamine (the right-handed isomer).

>its the stuff that has no difference on what the drug itself is, just how it looks
The bindings used directly relate to the bodies absorption rate of the drug. The use of different binders have been shown to cause differences in blood concentration levels.

>i've literally spent years studying chemistry and biochemistry
This is truly laughable.

>when a company first patents (thanks capitalism)
Patents are a product of government... not the market...
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Frederick Herrychetch - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:41:05 EST o9s+u5Qs No.289179 Reply
>>289174
>The bindings used directly relate to the bodies absorption rate of the drug.
I'm not sure it's a big deal. IR pills dissolve kinda easily in water. Your stomach probably only takes a minute or two to pull the whole pill apart. Generics are supposed to have similar bioequivalence to brand name (doesn't always happen though).

But yes, this is why you should use sublingually. Some of the drug avoids first-pass metabolism and any remnants of the pill get broken apart by saliva before it drips into your stomach.
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Ian Sopperhood - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:12:41 EST gnE6t61/ No.289180 Reply
>>289179
Most ingested amphetamine never gets metabolized at all and is excreted unchanged from the body.
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Isabella Fezzleford - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:00:05 EST 3z0dgJgB No.289192 Reply
>>289180
You may be right that first pass metabolism iant significant, but a lot of amphetamine is destroyed by stomach acid. Reducing stomach acidity increases BA in any case IIRC.
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Fanny Bloffinglick - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 10:15:33 EST xvnDn+uF No.290052 Reply
>>289165
>>289165


Seconding Aurobindo. I got them after getting the Mallinkrodt white 20's which fucking SUCKED. there's something up with them idk, but they always make me feel excessively anxious. Never had a problem with Aurobindo.
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Jack Nobberfoot - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:01:42 EST P5FB3UXI No.290054 Reply
>>289137
Use google you bum. Im 99% sure brand name Adderall is Shire.
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Albert Crucklemotch - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:58:35 EST l0xES3DP No.290056 Reply
>>290054
Shire hasn’t made their own adderall for about a decade now. They licensed the rights to it to Teva.
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 18:58:41 EST N8YS2fA0 No.290057 Reply
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If you think that pic related "don't work" then your expectation of what amphetamine does is wrong - these pills are fucking magic.
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Phyllis Dreckletidge - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:07:55 EST s8RNJ9VI No.292463 Reply
>>290057

The adderall in this pic has stopped working for me. Anyone else getting similar experiences?
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Charlotte Seblingsten - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:40:04 EST IJsz2f3b No.292466 Reply
>>292463
yeah dude back in like 2010 I was eating poppies every day and after a couple months they stopped working

it was weird
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Cedric Benkinbury - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:44:47 EST +m2TUOm6 No.292469 Reply
>>292463
Nope. I’m sure it still works for you, but you may have just developed a tolerance. Try exercising (cardio), eating right, and sleeping 8-9 hours a night.
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Beatrice Honeyworth - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:56:09 EST s8RNJ9VI No.292473 Reply
>>292469

I took a tolerance break already. I took an old pill from an old pill bottle and it worked perfectly as well.

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