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Dexedrine/Elvanse vs Speed jacking off

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- Thu, 05 Mar 2020 15:48:05 EST EIPBKowa No.294051
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is Jacking of on dextroamphetamine or elvanse better in any way compared to regular speed ? which one would you use for Jacking of / sex ?
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Shit Sonderhetch - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 19:21:55 EST JZQpn7sN No.294053 Reply
>>294051

That's a very degenerate thing to do, anon.
Not your mom; but your brain needs that energy.
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Lydia Pittstone - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 20:18:49 EST tudMmjYm No.294056 Reply
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>>294053
this OP, if you squander your Vitale Essensees by pleasuring yourself out of Wedlocke there's no way you can get into God's kindome of Heaven

Not like no fap isn't retarded broscience bullshit rooted in the sexual morality of fairy tales and the only people who unironically use the word "degenerate" have IQs lower than their body temperature
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Clara Goodcocke - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 10:28:03 EST o23pIvqG No.294062 Reply
>>294056
It’s called having reasonable levels of self control. Nothing wrong with masturbating for a short period of time, but as soon as it starts to take up significant periods of your day, you have a problem.
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Albert Gevingback - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 11:40:48 EST 7F89jV1v No.294063 Reply
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>>294056
Pretty much all of what i've read about NoFap people is that they aren't concerned about religion or morality so much as that they think it's real science that you become a "chad" if you don't jack off, and that you'll eventually build up so much testosterone or cummies or whatever, that you will waft out tons of hormones that make any woman want to fuck you regardless of how they actually feel about you. They just want to fuck and are incredibly desperate from what I can gather.

The funny thing is that they may be helping themselves anyways (maybe not in the superstitious way they think it will), and It is a bit similar to religious and other sorts of placebo in that sense.
If you read a bunch of self-help stuff and join a self-help based community and get motivated by it and actively start focusing on pushing towards a goal of self-discipline, and you keep on pushing towards that, some sort of gains are a likely conclusion, even if some of your ideas about the bigger picture are just outright wrong.

Like if you read a bunch of Vegan propaganda and then decide to go Vegan, so you start watching everything you eat and
go on a vegan diet plan and what do you know, you start losing weight! Obviously Vegans must be correct about everything they say rather than it just being about watching your diet.
So it didn't really matter if the Vegans were right did it, just that you had something to believe in and were able to use as a crutch ( AKA a "higher power") to achieve your goal.
Learning how to say no to yourself a powerful thing.
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Fanny Cledgehall - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 12:58:29 EST UXHHqVR9 No.294064 Reply
>>294063
Everything in moderation bro. Nothing wrong with having a quick fap before bed, but if you’re spending hours each week just jacking off you’re wasting time you could have been using for something more productive
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Walter Dallermuck - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 02:36:38 EST tudMmjYm No.294075 Reply
>>294063
>you'll eventually build up so much testosterone or cummies or whatever, that you will waft out tons of hormones that make any woman want to fuck you regardless of how they actually feel about you

that's so fucking funny

and yes, obviously like literally any other activity you could possibly do, doing it too much is unhealthy, but a lot of these people continue to just eat like shit and play video games for 10 hours a day and act like they're above it all just because they can find the willpower to do something normal people can do without even trying
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Walter Dallermuck - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 02:42:39 EST tudMmjYm No.294076 Reply
>>294064
I don't masturbate that much because I have almost no sex drive to speak of, but I really fail to see how objectively it makes me a better person that I watch documentaries and dumb sketch comedies instead of porn when I'm on speed.

>using for something more productive

What? You were gonna write a novel instead of rubbing your dick raw? That wasn't gonna happen.
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m - Mon, 09 Mar 2020 16:00:39 EST aOs/prHG No.294090 Reply
>>294051
I'm making a total bullshit "gut" guess here, but my intuition based on previous extensive experiences with adderall IR (basically 75% dextro-amph 25% levo-amph) and pure dextro-amph/dexedrine IR (100% d-amph), is that dexedrine is much better suited for the job, assuming you don't also have viagra/cialis to take/don't want to risk the side effects of those meds.

What I mean is, IME levo-amph (l-amph) is much more vascoconstrictive than d-amph, and agonizes norepinephrine something like ~4x more than it agonizes dopamine receptor sites. So l-amph doesn't effectively increase euphoria, yet it increases HR, sweating, anxiety, again vasoconstriction (the opposite effect of viagra), possibly manic/aggressive behavior, and at high enough levels psychosis. Of course d-amph causes many of these same symptoms, but not to the same degree mg for mg.

The only downside is that adderall/street speed, assuming the street speed isn't heavily cut and the only active ingredients it contains (so assuming absolutely 0% caffeine, 0% meth, 0% various RC stims etc.) is a roughly 50/50 d-amph/l-amph split mixture, tends to provide a stronger physical energy/desire to move or do physical activity than dexedrine, so at lower doses in those with low tolerance, it might be better for sex (not necessarily solo masturbation) than dexedrine, assuming you don't have erection problems with that particular dose of adderall.

That being said, you should know that if you're dumb enough to take amph daily for months or even years (like me), anecdotally both myself and other amph/ritalin daily users I know tend to experience a substantial crash in their sex drive, at least with those two specific stims. At 30mg dex IR (40mg addy IR equiv.) my ex-wife experienced this long before things between us went south, and I have as well, after being bumped from 30mg dex/day to 60mg/day. One male friend of mine in his 20s is scripted concerta (I think 27s XR), and another female friend also in her 20s is scripted ritalin IR, something like 10mg or 20mg/day. They both notice at least minimal to moderate reduction in their sex drive when using more than like 3-4 days per week, but less than when on amph.

Is this the case for you meth users, or is it rare for you guys do effectively use daily for over a year without getting psychotic/fucking your sleep schedule/dying of anorexia? I'd love to hear personal experiences concerning daily/near-daily stim use of any kind (at least say 4-5 days/week without any T breaks) for at least 3 months, especially over 1-2 years, even "weaker" stims such as modafinil or armodafinil.
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Esther Punningweck - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:21:55 EST lEzLHldo No.294095 Reply
>>294076
I definitely think learning things, even passively through documentaries, is a more productive use of time than fapping for hours. And I've written books on speed before. If you're a writer it's not really far-fetched. Lemme know if you're interested in the others: https://austincap.github.io/projects/csa.html

Nofap is one of the stupidest cults in existence though. The funniest thing about nofappers is how they react when you remind them actually having sex also causes you to "lose your life essence". I guess girls hate any guy who gets laid a lot. Weird how quickly they flipped. Wasn't "clean the pipes before going on dates" the standard redpill advice just a few years ago?
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Esther Punningweck - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:28:52 EST lEzLHldo No.294096 Reply
>>294090
For the past 5 years I'll do roughly 3 months on, 1 month off, with a couple 6 month T-breaks in there. My sex drive sober is still higher than average. I'll have wet dreams if I don't jack off daily and I'm 31.
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Edward Brogglebone - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:39:05 EST agXJFVO8 No.294101 Reply
>>294090
I am scripted and use 30mg dextro amp daily and use it as such. To be honest tolerance has definitely grown but it still works fairly well, I put this down to adequate sleep and nutrition and a healthy(ish) lifestyle. I should probably take a break sometime soon but as a busy person this isn't easy.
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Reuben Clittingpadge - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:14:35 EST cKwAakhS No.294107 Reply
>>294076
>I watch documentaries and dumb sketch comedies instead of porn when I'm on speed.
How? stims erode my sense of humor and make watching videos boring for me
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Ebenezer Gegglepat - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:22:50 EST lEzLHldo No.294109 Reply
>>294107
Maybe he's one of those guys with low libido. I could see watching dopamine-inducing comedies going well with that if I couldnt fap. Stims erode my sensor of humor too though. Really watching anything feels wasteful on stims (unless I'm watching porn on a stimfap ofc).
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David Gogglenot - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:29:01 EST lEzLHldo No.294117 Reply
>>294114
Clearly that's not the case because he says himself he doesn't find the way he uses his time productive. God, you nofap simps are so obnoxious.
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Esther Billingbanks - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:15:05 EST o23pIvqG No.294118 Reply
>>294117
>he doesn't find the way he uses his time productive
Maybe I overlooked it, but he said that he watches documentaries. Watching a documentary is a more productive use of time than just watching people have sex...

I'm not even a nofap guy. Everything in moderation. But I see people on 420chan talking about how they spend hours masturbating -- that's just excessive and a total waste of time.
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Hamilton Chubberwed - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 06:08:02 EST vqsP/Ay2 No.294142 Reply
Love marathon STM jacking off sessions. Go with the pharmaceutical. Micro dose every couple hours.
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Betsy Huckleham - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 16:33:19 EST rynGuF2V No.294157 Reply
>>294140
>>294051

I did elvanse without any plans what do on it, I ended up gapping the whole night without coming close to cumming. Was kinda fun but I was super fucked up without sleep.
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Ebenezer Heblingpark - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:02:34 EST Xe8elT30 No.294208 Reply
>>294051
i cum absolute buckets on my comedowns from dextroamph. its basically criminal how good that feels no words explain imagine like ecstasy made for the dick
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Eliza Hoshmuck - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 14:38:17 EST ihh0Ljph No.294219 Reply
>>294208
>its basically criminal how good that feels

in many cases im sure it is.
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Archie Hemmerbanks - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:14:10 EST 9SD/WRaY No.294220 Reply
I've been taking Elvanse 30mg for few weeks. If I take 60mg, I'll almost certainly end up smoking weed and jacking off for HOURS. It seems to enhance sexual pleasure and endurance pretty well.
By comparison, street speed with probably levo and just meth in it does get me horny, but it's less "comfortable" to me which affects my lust a bunch. I get rougher and more intense, but it doesn't last as long and the comedown is crappier.

Dexamphetamine doesn't fully replace what other stimulants can do, but it is one of the comfier[sic] one.
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Albert Serringhall - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 02:28:37 EST tudMmjYm No.294225 Reply
>>294109
i'm not a guy so that probably has something to do with it, i do have a notably low sex drive regardless

>>294114
>>294117
>>294118
I find the use of my personal time productive with-in my framework for viewing the world, but I don't delude myself into thinking that it somehow makes me a better person that I prefer one release over another. I'm saying that if stimulants turn you into some sort of insatiable sex maniac, then it's perfectly reasonable to spend your time masturbating. It's a completely neutral thing. It's no less generative than studying something or appreciating art like I prefer to do. I do occasionally write and play music while on stims and that could technically be considered more productive, but in the scheme of things it's not because I'm doing that entirely for my own enjoyment too.

Like any other easy short-cut to pleasure if you do it too much it can make it so you derive less satisfaction from doing less immediately gratifying activities, but doing stimulants in and of itself is a million times worse in terms of this, but it's also is not an inherently destructive activity.

tl;dr I don't fap but I still think NoFap is stupid as hell

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