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How dangerous is propylhexedrine

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- Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:33:09 EST JRNv+eaw No.295165
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Chemically it's almost identical to meth but I can't help but feel like I'm fucking my heart/brain up on it due to lack of research I've found online.

How bad is it really to indulge in 1/4 of a cotton a few times a week compared to someone who takes ADHD meds daily?
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Edward Gabbertare - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:35:10 EST JRNv+eaw No.295166 Reply
>>295165
Should I just quit being lazy and get another ADHD script?

Fuck I already know what you guys are going to say idk why I even posted this nb
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Edward Gabbertare - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:41:49 EST JRNv+eaw No.295168 Reply
>>295165
Also does anybody know why it got taken off the market in countries where it was prescribed for diet/weight loss in small dosages? Was it abused or did they find out it was just fucking terrible for human consumption? nb
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Edwin Lighthall - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:51:59 EST tnh/lPPh No.295169 Reply
>>295165
its not technically meth its the l-isomer of meth its not as strong as r-meth but i guess i am being choosy
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Edward Gabbertare - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:28:53 EST JRNv+eaw No.295170 Reply
>>295169
no u rite, didn't mean to imply they were identical by any means, just similar chemical makeups. & also not tryning to imply meth can't fuck your heart or brain up either
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Isabella Nunkinstock - Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:37:09 EST 4QeJ3S4z No.295184 Reply
>>295169
You are incorrect. Benzedrex isn't meth or an isomer of it. It has a hexane ring in stead of a phenyl ring (same 6 carbons but no dbl bonds). Identical otherwise though.
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William Pittwill - Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:16:01 EST x6loZ0N6 No.295222 Reply
cool thought i was a copy pasta of the vick nasal pray
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m - Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:53:17 EST ncx5wpUD No.295232 Reply
>>295169
You're confusing benzedrex with the other nasal spray that is sometime sold. The other one is yes indeed l-methamp, but I've personally tried it once to compare it to benzedrex dexedrine etc. and l-methamp is absolute garbage. Benzedrex is superior for pretty much any recreational purpose. Maybe if you're trying to lose weight and dont want long term benzedrex use, then yeah low dose l-methamp might be better, but there are healthier options.

I've been clean of amphetamine for like 40 days or so, and during that time I consumed probably like ~5-7 benzedrex inhalers. The most I did was 1.5 inhalers in one day. Anyways, apart from the garbage side effects and weird serotonin release, it pretty much was totally unenjoyable after maybe 2-3 doses, even when waiting a few days between dosages. I'll likely never exceed 1 inhaler dose again though. If your stimulant cross tolerance is too high/permanently fucked to enjoy 1 inhaler or less, then honestly dont even bother.

L-methamp was all the shitty side effects of meth/stimulants without 95% of the positive effects.

If you're nearly 0 tolerance and reading this, soak only half a cotton for first dose. I'd say that 1 full cotton is equal to maybe 20-25mg of dexedrine or 30mg addy in terms of euphoria, but with the physical side effects of like ~50-60+ mg of addy/dex.
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Augustus Sishnod - Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:23:32 EST OC/gGZCD No.295241 Reply
>>295232
I've never heard of this, you just buy it at walmart or something?
does it feel anything like vyvanse?
how exactly do I take it?
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Jenny Hubblestock - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:57:16 EST 7VPM8o+T No.295270 Reply
>>295241
you soak the cotton in an acid (coca-cola) then drink it. don't redose on the same day of consumption or you'll regret it
I'm pretty sure the ld40 for it in mice is like 30 or 40mg and there's somewhere between 100-200mg of that shit in a cotton (idk exactly)
I'm pretty sure it's cardio toxic as fuck and that's why it's not prescribed in low-dosages where it used to be, I wouldn't recommend it
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Simon Macklenodging - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:49:16 EST tudMmjYm No.295272 Reply
>>295270
it's a very dangerous drug to do, but keep in mind LD50 is measured in milligrams per kilogram, and it's much higher than that, 80-85mg/kg in mice, the lowest recorded lethal dose is 65 mg/kg. LD50 is only the dose it takes to immediately kill half of the subjects through any mechanism, it says nothing about organ damage or long-term consequences, which something so cardiotoxic absolutely has, i had a mini stroke on the stuff and i'm really lucky the only consequence i suffered was incomprehensibly painful intractable headaches for a year

https://www.drugfuture.com/toxic/q45-q274.html


unrelated but damn now that i think about it i really don't know how i feel about mad scientists blowing up mice's hearts to find this out
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Alice Drengerfuck - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 19:42:04 EST 7y6nROQA No.295349 Reply
Took the whole thing and had a pleasant experience until the 12 hour period where I couldn't hold ANYTHING in my stomach.

2/10 do not recommend.
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Sophie Hirringman - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:02:22 EST ySNk45ZF No.295360 Reply
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Never use the stuff, just looking to get fucked up to take my mind of all the shit that's going on around me (healthy ik)

Basically I dosed ln, had a good experience, pretty tired / achey today but I still want to dose later tn again

After that I'm good. Is it just cardiotoxic? At all levels? I only soak for 30m a lot of people will soak them for 7-24h

Thx in adv /stim/ fam
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Sophie Hirringman - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:42:24 EST ySNk45ZF No.295361 Reply
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>>295360
Also, would taking half a kpin or so & a beta blocker like metoprolol help?

Have a good amount of benz to come down after this, not gonna go ham or anything though just gonna take as much as I need function

Here's to never doing this bs drug again, lol
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Jack Gibbleridge - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 23:09:23 EST 0/DcaF+o No.295393 Reply
>>295165
I wouldn't recommend it it's dirty as fuck. Felt worse on my body than coke and speed combined, also almost dropped me for good at one point.
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Samuel Hottingnene - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 15:00:56 EST +EOOjhGF No.295402 Reply
>>295165

Propylhexedrine is perfectly non-toxic, slightly weaker then methamphetamine, and superior in everyway to Dextroamphetamine/Adderall. (More euphoria, longer duration thanks to norpropylhexedrine. Which is it's active metabolite. Propylhexedrine itself is just as active, though.)

You're also taking a very low dose, the average recreational dose is 250-750 mg with no tolerance. (1-3 cottons.) Just be sure to space it out if you're going to eat the cottons. Doing this frequently can cause intestinal blockage.
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DTMO - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 23:02:31 EST 6DtrIZwm No.295404 Reply
>>295402
>Propylhexedrine is perfectly non-toxic

Lol.

>Slightly weaker than methamphetamine
>Average recreational dose is 250-750mg

Lol.
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Barnaby Blevingford - Sun, 09 Aug 2020 01:17:56 EST Cey9hj1v No.295405 Reply
>>295402
These DEA agents are just getting lazy at this point
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Julian Casablancas - Mon, 10 Aug 2020 22:38:11 EST tVksoweN No.295415 Reply
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>>295165
How hard is it to get an addy script if i want one. I have a pyschiatrist that prescribed me xans extremely easily 2 yrs ago and explaining to him that i think i have adhd and _insert researched symptoms of adhd here_ were just giving me my social anxiety bc _made up reasons adhd would make life harder_. And when i say he gave me xans extremely easily i mean i looked him up on that website that allows you to see docs and theyre mist prescribed meds, went there and 1st appt within like 10-15 min walked out with a script for 90 xan .25s and jumped up to .5s when i went for my next followup. Basically a non-opiate pill mill
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Julian Casablancas - Mon, 10 Aug 2020 22:43:43 EST tVksoweN No.295416 Reply
>>295415
Should mention i was gonna try obv just using him again bc i havnt been goin or getting xans from him in one year. Also im currently prescribed gabapentin from my general doc rn but my plan was (if they can even see that i have the script) was to explain that i thought my prob was SA but its actually adhd. Im pretty convincing when i want to be haha
Nb
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Ian Sangerford - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:56:43 EST pI2VEnOr No.295540 Reply
>>295165
I'm giving it a try, I cut up a cotton into like 10 pieces, soaked it in 100% lemon juice (which if I'm correct will turn it into propylhexedrine acetate.) I'm not eating the menthol or lavender because fuck that, so, I read a guide on doing an oil separation and using a plastic bag and cutting the corner to make a separatory funnel, did 2 passes of that and now im attempting to evaporate the juice scrape up whatever was yielded (im sure some was lost due to shitty equipment) and throw it in a capsule. I also hear that it has bad vasoconstriction so I'll be taking magnesium with it making sure im hydrated and fed.
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Nigel Shittingfield - Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:42:31 EST tudMmjYm No.295624 Reply
It's known to be significantly more dangerous in recreational dosages than other prescription amphetamines. It has a very strong affinity specifically for adranergic receptors, which is one of the reasons why it's used in the inhalers these days instead of amphetamine, because in addition to being less abusable, in theraputic dosages it's actually safer and has less of a central effect. In dosages required to get significant dopaminergic and serotonergic effect though, the adrenergic effect becomes incredibly dangerous and damaging to the organs

It's not going to drop you dead immediately at the dosages you're talking about, but it's certainly an incredibly dangerous drug, much more dangerous than prescription amphetamines. The danger of hypertensive crisis isn't as high in at those dosages, the problem is the severe damage it can do to your cardiovascular and nervous systems, as well as basically every other organ in your body. It could do damage to your heart that might not be apparent for years until you have a heartache and die.

Not to encourage you but to give you a little peace of mind because I suspect you've pretty much already made up you're mind and are going to do it anyway no matter what anyone says, I've done up to two inhalers at a time a couple time before when I did it semi-regularly and didn't die if sudden death is your concern, but that's anecdotal, I feel as though I easily could have. Glad I haven't touched them in almost a year with no desire to.

Especially because while I didn't recognize it as such at the time, my doctor is almost certain that I had a mini-stroke one of the times I did it. I can't remember if I had one or two that time, but I distinctly recall during the peak getting this incredibly painful piercing headache in the back of head like right at the brain stem and for months and months I'd get one every time I stood up too fast or held my breath too long or got excited.

To this day, those headaches are without question the most painful thing I've ever experienced. They only lasted a few minutes to half an hour but they were completely intractable. No painkiller or headache prophylactic had any effect. It felt like I had been shot in the back of the head every time I'd get them.

Here are some good articles about it:
http://www.jodrugs.com/toxicologies/3824-propylhexedrine.aspx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5741979/
https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/research/Propylhexedrine

>>295540
extractions are the best way to do it but still only take it orally, all other routes of administration are known to be incredibly dangerous especially injecting it
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Peese Chenis - Mon, 24 Aug 2020 03:43:43 EST BNInltGP No.295637 Reply
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>>295402
It’s noticeably more cardio and neuro toxic than meth what the fuck are you talking about.

A tweaker bud of mine ended up buying a whole case of them a coupe years ago so he could travel with them and have some sort of crutch. He ended up on a bender (not sure how many), but according to him, he hasnt been exactly the same as he was before and can’t seem to get precisely back there.
I know after he came back the depression was brutal and I couldn’t get him out of the house for like 3 months. There’s a few pretty bad random of tales out there as well of people who got bit by it real good

It releases a bunch of serotonin too unlike meth. Not something you want to binge on if you value your feels and your brains.

It also has a lower permeability of the BBB than meth so greater chance of reacting to receptors outside of the brain.

There’s other reasons too but the shits just a dirty ass chemical compared to Le Sharde. Literally what it has going for it is legality, and I don’t think anybody would be trying to cope like this and say it’s so safe if they werent just trying to justify their rampant abuse of it want to be using it everyday and convincing theirselves that’s not the end of the world.

It wouldn’t be all that bad if people would use it less like meth and more like MDMA. It doesn’t release nearly as much serotonin as mdma, but stacking doses of this and going on benders is a super bad idea
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Lillian Bribberbanks - Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:31:19 EST o23pIvqG No.295639 Reply
>>295637
Exactly. One of my close friends suffered lifelong brain damage after about a year of sustained/consistent propylhexexrine abuse
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Sophie Chicklebanks - Mon, 31 Aug 2020 20:00:21 EST W8V26XZ3 No.295696 Reply
>>295639
Why do so many people insist it's safe though? I literally just ingested half a glass of lemonade with one cotten sitting in it because my friend told me it was 100% only as bad for you as Adderall. Now it's been an hour and i think i might be feeling a come up or it could just be placebo i'll have to wait and see. Definitely not trying it again though
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Edward Sedgematch - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 22:08:43 EST tudMmjYm No.295712 Reply
>>295696
>Why do so many people insist it's safe though

cope. it's much easier to get than any other stim
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m - Thu, 03 Sep 2020 20:12:06 EST IF9DSJfg No.295730 Reply
>>295696
It's not super safe, definitely worse for you than an equivalent dose of adderall/dexedrine/even meth, but it's not absolutely horrible for you. The trick is to only use 0.5-1 cottons at a time, and only 1 cotton per 24hr max (I've done up to 2 cottons in 24hr, 100% not worth it). Then you wait at least 2 weeks between half cotton doses, or 1 month between 1 cotton doses.

It's the chronic repeated use/high dose usage/not sleeping, drinking, or eating alongside using that's so bad. If I didn't hate how much benzedrex feels with a high permatolerance to addy/dex, and I didn't already have a dex script, I'd probably take 0.5-1 benzedrex cottons once a month.
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Alice Grimridge - Sat, 05 Sep 2020 16:50:58 EST wFwcgE2s No.295746 Reply
>>295165
a quarter cotton a few times a week, lol, try 2 cottons every couple days....
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Hedda Gackledale - Sat, 05 Sep 2020 17:40:49 EST Hpaogs7S No.295747 Reply
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i just took two cottens soaked in lemon juice and that's my standard dose

makes me fap like 12 times in one day and unable to sleep at night

i do dxm on the reg too which i think is worse for you but

the comedown is no fun off benzedrex i reccomend having some weed to ease that tenfold

i'm also a hentai artist and it makes draw dem big titties pic related
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Reuben Sullerkeck - Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:32:21 EST BIJ3X0Tn No.295768 Reply
>>295165

Well I probably have the most experience...I'm a long term drug addict been addicted to every drug but meth at some point. Now I'm chillin' no illegal drugs because jail is hell and I'm functioning good on Benzedrex 3-5 days a week. I don't fiend for it at all and i use it for fap marathons since life is pretty blah right now.

But yeah I've been doing this shit 6 months now 3-5 days a week and I'll take up to 5...yes 5 at a time. My tolerance has slowly gone up obviously but this stuff is shady considering the vascular rebound effects it has. I'm being a fool by doing this shit still but I mean I have no issues from it besides my face flushed and dick blood rush up some. It's nice for jacking off but besides that meh.

I don't plan on taking it much longer but I've had a really good quarantine basically jacked it away. The fact that I can't catch a felony picking this up, it's ready available and it's not a hardcore stim, it's "strong" enough to do the job satisfactorily. But yeah vascular side effects effect everyone different!
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Reuben Sullerkeck - Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:37:05 EST BIJ3X0Tn No.295769 Reply
>>295768
Btw I'm on 7 different medications I got put on when I got clean from heroin and xanax so I'm able to use them to tweak the vascular restraint or w/e it's called. Clonidine and propranolol help big time. Seroquel also just knocks me out when I'm ready lol
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Betsy Buzzdock - Tue, 08 Sep 2020 15:51:36 EST GDNkon6l No.295779 Reply
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>>295165
Tried that stuff a few times and even with lemon and cola the taste made it not worth it. Got the CNS stimulation but no focus or euphoria. Interesting to see some people getting actual study drug type effects from it. Maybe I didn't take the right dose or something.

>>295747
Nice. I like the big titties and thighs.
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Matilda Cudgefoot - Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:42:06 EST Hpaogs7S No.295792 Reply
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>>295779

Thanks! Here's one I did cus I'm actually more a frequenter on /dis/

Also One thing i do, is boil the lemon juice a little bit, so some of the product does evaporate, then immediately add cold water to cool it down. but what i gain is the knowledge is that its cleaner. then I add alcohol like rum or vodka, just a splash, and salt. the end mixture is a warm lavender + vodka + salty + lemony ugh drink, but it only lasts a short while and tastes very clean.

I don't bother trying to add oil anymore,(too much work and you lose product)i used to do it to get rid of the lavender, and I'm a guy, and it's been stated clinically that lavender lowers testosterone, but I just figure I'mma sweat or pee it out eventually.

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