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Withdrawal (What're you doing?)

- Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:33:17 EST +EOOjhGF No.295401
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Well /stim/, I currently am withdrawling from Dextroamphetamine. I've been taking high doses of levophenylalanine. (Essential nutrient that metabolizes into dopamine and norepinephrine. Also metabolizes through a different route into phenethylamine, a trace monoamine that has the same biochemical mechanisms as Amphetamine.)

With not much relief. I smoked all my weed 5 days ago, and am very lonely and depressed. I've been through this before years ago, and it's horrible. Morphine withdrawal in my experience is only slightly worse, and that says a lot.

Currently drinking coffee and chain-smoking cigarettes. What're you on/doing? I won't be getting relief for roughly a week. :(
Scourge of the West - Tue, 11 Aug 2020 00:03:52 EST 9qfy2k1X No.295418 Reply
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Aquire cat. Stop talking like a faggot. You stop tweaking and are depressed? No shit.

This too shall pass
Doris Sobblechore - Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:26:11 EST +EOOjhGF No.295442 Reply

OP here. Yay! I found a 30 mg Adderall tablet and am feeling mild relief, also have a small amount of Cannabis now which too is helping.

I haven't had a Benzo script since 2016, thanks to abuse and withdrawal. So that's not an option for me, although they certainly would help.

Tomorrow I'll be withdrawaling again though, and this 30mg dosage isn't much. I normally take 100 mg of Adderall, sometimes 120-140mg because of tolerance. So yeah.

Glad I found some relief!
Doris Sobblechore - Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:40:26 EST +EOOjhGF No.295443 Reply
OP here, listening to the album Twisted by Hallucinogen. It's a psychedelic trance/Goa trance album. Psytrance is all I listen to high.

Especially good on psychedelic hallucinogens.
Albert Mummerville - Wed, 12 Aug 2020 23:49:34 EST 0Hb8gUOk No.295455 Reply
try out some instrumental musics that are not electronic based.
i like psy trance but i also like chopin and some bach songs. it can be crazy intricate and feeling evoking and it feels smarter than drug trance music but i like boh dont get me wrong koan sound is cool and i like ltj bukem
Lillian Wirringham - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:25:03 EST +EOOjhGF No.295529 Reply

OP here. I found one more 30mg tablet in my drawer where I keep my scripts! Took it two hours ago. Not much, considering I normally take around 100 mg. But also on a high dose of Cannabis. Feels good man.

No withdrawal until tomorrow. I won't be getting my Adderall script refilled for another 6-10 days.

Currently listening to psychedelic trance again. I'm also the one that posted the thread about psychedelic effects from dextroamphetamine at high doses. 30mg doesn't produce any though, aside from slight synthasthesia. Feeling the synths from the Psytrance.

Nathaniel Crimmernire - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:19:12 EST f5ItoRHn No.295545 Reply
Dex withdrawal and psytrance... some people 不不不不不不不不不
Molly Maffingdock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 11:45:05 EST +EOOjhGF No.295549 Reply
I have, classic album. No more amphetamine today, trying to relieve the withdrawal with high doses of Cannabis and Gabapentin. Feels pretty good man.

Took 8 grams of Gabapentin with 440mg of Naproxen sodium (Increases bioavailabilty by 15%) and staggered the doses for even more. Gabapentin actually feels better then benzodiazepines. Not as good as stimulants or opiates, though.

Slightly-mildly less euphoric then Pregabalin, it's chemically related successor. I might get that soon for GED. (I fake all my diagnosis.)
Phoebe Crenningfock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:05:19 EST ValTRcOS No.295550 Reply
I think youre nerding out a bit too hard... youre supposed to act cool when you do drugs
Cyril Senkinsit - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:17:51 EST +EOOjhGF No.295561 Reply

OP here, another day without amphetamine. Getting high on Cannabis now and taking Gabapentin (8 grams.) in about 45 minutes. Really relieved the withdrawal, particularly the Gabapentin.

5 more days until my Adderall script is refilled, approximately. Anyways, what're you guys on?
m - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 20:29:05 EST ncx5wpUD No.295562 Reply

That's a ridiculously excessive gabapentin dose. No matter how well you stagger it, the effective BA on fucking 8g gabapentin must be absolute trash, like way below 10%. Its BA % has an inverse linear relationship with total dose consumed, and staggering doesn't totally eliminate that fact. IMO, the max gabapentin worth taking is maybe ~2-2.5g. 2g gabapentin and ~1-2mg pharma xanax would be way more effective (not to mention safe) than 8g gabapentin.

Also, not to be a dick, but stimulant WD isn't even bad. It's just boredom and depression, not like actual acute WD effects like drugs with actually horrible WDs, like opioids, benzos, or harder GABAergics (GHB and analogs, lyrica/phenibut, etc.).

If morphine WD was "only slightly worth," then your morphine dose was frankly a joke or your dependency wasn't serious.

I do suggest you get more Addy and actually taper though. I too quit amph nearly CT (was dexedrine and not adderall but still) at doses, embarassingly enough, at least equal to and likely greater than yours (100mg dex = ~133mg addy, and I was a moron and took up to ~120-200+ ish mg/day sometimes spread out). Even after 45 days with no "relapses" like your 30mg small doses, the depression/anhedonia only improved by like 5% max within 45 days until I just started it again.

Now I'm back to a more "responsible" dose of 45-60mg dex/day (~60-80mg addy/day, which is still absolutely not a healthy or responsible dose long term, fml). Going back to like 30mg dex is really important, even if I don't feel much from amph anymore.
Rebecca Seshgold - Wed, 19 Aug 2020 10:44:09 EST +EOOjhGF No.295572 Reply

OP here. Well, firstly, I have a high tolerance to Gabapentin. I'm prescribed 3.6 grams per day for GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder.), which I don't really have. Also, you should study your neuropharmacology, 1-2 mg of Alprazolam would produce a much weaker effect then 8 grams of Gabapentin, which is heavily intoxicating.

Staggering the dose also actually does preserve the bioavailability, significantly. Not to mention Naproxen. Additionally, Gabapentin is a severely underrated recreational drug.

It's very close to the euphoria of Pregabalin, and all of Pregabalin's psychoactive/euphoriant effects can be applied interchangeably with Gabapentin as well. Contrary to common belief. I've been using Gabapentin for 7 years. It produces intense euphoria, tracers, and MDMA empathetic effects (Although, milder.) very similar to Pregabalin.

Learn your shit, asshole.
Rebecca Seshgold - Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:20:23 EST +EOOjhGF No.295573 Reply

OP here, also, 4-5 more days until I get my Adderall script refilled. I'm prescribed 60 mg a day for treatment-resistant depression. Not ADHD. But I normally take 100mg with no tolerance, 120-140 with a tolerance. So my script runs out.

Currently on a high dose of Cannabis and Gabapentin, again. Which is what I use to relieve withdrawal.

In response to the asshole, my morphine withdrawal was actually quite severe. I had been using Opium Poppy Pods for a year, and stopped cold-turkey due to issues with my family. I was severely dysphoric, had the shits and vomiting, accompanied by mild psychosis. Severe Psychostimulant withdrawal unmedicated is almost as bad, in my experiences and my opinion.

I also have gone through Benzo withdrawal, to the point of having full-blown hallucinations and mild seizures. Which is why I don't take them anymore.
Rebecca Seshgold - Wed, 19 Aug 2020 13:03:28 EST +EOOjhGF No.295578 Reply

OP here, I'm also the one that posted this thread: https://boards.420chan.org/stim/thread/295381/psychedelic-effects-from-dextroamphetamine

I really do, and enjoy it quite much. Goes great with Cannabis or Shrooms. Speaking of which, I'll also be getting a large supply of Psilocybian mushrooms on the day I get my Adderall script refilled from a close friend of mine, at a low price. (Been friends with him since I was 7-8 years old.)

Really looking forward to taking Dextroamphetamine with Cannabis and Shrooms. Will be listening to more psychedelic trance.

I also posted this thread on /psy/: https://boards.420chan.org/psy/thread/904678/psychedelic-music

Just to share some of it.
m - Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:22:24 EST ncx5wpUD No.295582 Reply
No, I didn't suggest gabapentin OR xanax. If you pay attention, I suggested that 2-2.5g gabapentin AND pharma xanax would be more effective than megadose gabapentin alone.

And yeah, sure I'm sure if you just take a big enough dose then it might work, but look at the estimated BA %, staggered or not, for fucking 8 grams of gabapentin. It's a massive waste. An alleged 10 or 15% BA boost by generic Aleve doesn't magically make my previous statements untrue.

>actually went through respectable opi WD via pst/ppt

Fair enough. We've both experienced those horrors. So why, then, would you ever mock the pain you, I, and many others have went through during PPT/PST by incorrectly suggesting that amph WD is remotely comparable? We both know it's not.
Wesley Shakeway - Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:00:10 EST iDCqvgTU No.295585 Reply
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Dextroamphetamine withdrawal is easy. You get really tired and sleep a lot for a couple of days to a week, and then things are back to normal. It's really not as bad as opiate withdrawal or benzos withdrawal, the latter of which can be literally life threatening..
Frederick Fuckingway - Thu, 20 Aug 2020 09:38:47 EST +EOOjhGF No.295589 Reply

OP here. Oh, alright, sorry man. Yeah, well for some reason it's pretty bad for me. It might be my brain chemistry or something. Hope I don't have dopaminergic neurotoxicity, which starts at approximately 105 mg of dextroamphetamine with no tolerance. (Much higher with tolerance.)
Frederick Fuckingway - Thu, 20 Aug 2020 09:57:50 EST +EOOjhGF No.295591 Reply

OP here. However, I still disagree with you about Gabapentin's bioavailability at 8 grams. I've taken lower dosages (1.5 to 4.8 grams.) with the same potentiation techniques and the effects are a lot milder. So yeah, and 4 more days for my Adderall script! Yay!
Cyril Goodfoot - Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:22:23 EST PTtsxGfe No.295594 Reply
Yep. It's no different from meth withdrawal especially if you do equivalent amounts.
Esther Sashgold - Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:17:44 EST +EOOjhGF No.295641 Reply
>>295401 OP here, got my Adderall prescription refilled today! Also got a large amount of Psilocybin mushrooms from a very close friend of mine. Just ingested 100mg of Adderall with 3 grams of moderately-highly potent psilocybin mushrooms. Going to ingest a moderate-high dose of Cannabis as I peak.

Not feeling anything yet, although it's only been 10 minutes. Yeah!
Jack Climmerville - Thu, 27 Aug 2020 07:13:43 EST q0VRVkqW No.295650 Reply
That sounds like the most unfun anxiety filled trip ever
Hope you turned out ok
Cornelius Nuckletetch - Thu, 27 Aug 2020 17:53:55 EST HALduR/k No.295658 Reply
>That sounds like the most unfun anxiety filled trip ever
This, shit dude sometimes stims are too much for me on their own.

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