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Probably a stupid question, about file sharing/copyright

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- Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:29:56 EST HIePCQq8 No.122580
File: 1573741796733.jpg -(135056B / 131.89KB, 1201x631) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Probably a stupid question, about file sharing/copyright
Given that a file on a computer is essentially just a very large number, can't we work around copyright laws to share a file, by treating the file as an actual integer number, then sharing different numbers, that when multiplied together give us the original number?

So first we split the number(file) into a base and a multiplier, that we host on separate servers. The user can grab the base and multiplier from these two separate servers and use software on their end that multiplies the two numbers together to recalculate the original number(file), without either server actually hosting material under copyright.
So for example if a file, when treated as a regular integer, is 4290450368071, one server would store the base as 48723884, another server owned and hosted by someone else would store the multiplier 88056.41126784966.
Neither would be storing the original file and in the event of a server being seized, the number(file) itself would not be considered under copyright, because while the base could be multiplied by x to create the file SuperHeroMovie.mp4, it could also be multiplied by y to create linux.iso.
A disadvantage to this, would be the requirement for at least 2 servers (likely with +1 extra server to host filenames/metadata and links to the base and multipliers). Another disadvantage is the increased overall bandwidth/storage space required and the extra time for the user's machine to re-calculate the original file. But could a system like this actually work? Has it already been tried?
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HenryPazzledatch.pol - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 13:56:53 EST NEE6nSyu No.122581 Reply
This isn't meaningfully different from distributing compressed or encrypted copies of the copyrighted work. Numbers don't become interesting like this until you get into illegal primes.
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CharlesMurdville.rar - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:23:37 EST Zhg3GjpF No.122592 Reply
>>122580
Move to Canada, music sharing is legal per Supreme Court decision in 2005, ISPs cannot give MAFIAA your IP, they practically encourage ~piracy~ with those cheap cheap FTTH and cable connections.
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James Randi - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 03:24:44 EST skGzqdx6 No.122596 Reply
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>>122581
DROP THAT PRIME NUMBER CITIZEN!
STOP RESISTING!
WE ARE HERE FOR YOUR PROTECTION!
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WesleyTillingfuck.html - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:22:58 EST iVlLvQYS No.122598 Reply
AFIK the law does not care about which technical method is used to store a file.

You could also do this scheme ad-absurdum where to store a megabyte file you distribute it across 8 million machines of which one only stores one bit.
Technically even every single bit would be copyrighted.

Copyright is made for lawyers not IT nerds.
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HughSevingham.fnt - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 04:45:42 EST bzH2p3jp No.122600 Reply
Everything you see on the computer can be converted to numbers and back to what you see. Data is basically numbers.
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HamiltonGungerhall.lnk - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 18:51:34 EST GZ9lN10B No.122761 Reply
>>122598
>Technically even every single bit would be copyrighted.
You can theoretically circumvent this by applying law meant for programming - in the sense that you can only copyright or patent a complete program or feature.
Take for example:

int a;
int b;
int c;
c=a+b;

If Windows were to contain this piece of code, even in a copyrighted or patented context, you could not be prosecuted for using that code snippet... why? because that would illegalize any addition in basically any program anywhere... That goes for any mathematical operation.
Probably a better way could be to use exponentiation as a means of data compression, like 3728^271.5 that could yield the correct number for, say, the Lion King movie - again, Disney could not hold claim to that math formula, as it would hinder anyone using 3728^271.5 for any purpose.

Numbers also can't be trademarked or used as a brand - Intel found that out in the 1990s, and that's why they used the name "Pentium" instead of "586" for their then new series of CPUs.

However, OPs propsal would still not work, since many juristictions have changed their legal wording to instead encompass "providing access to pirated media".
This was what got PirateBay into a legal snafu - a torrent site doesn't host any copyrighted material...
Torrent sites only hold torrent files, which are text files that provide links to "seeders" that hold the copyrighted material in question.
This was why PirateBay was up for so many years, until the Swedish government basically changed their law to target them directly. Since then, other governments have done the same.
So, by providing access, even partially, to a given movie or other artistic piece, would still render you in the firing line for copyright infringement.

Now for the misconception of "illegal numbers"...
Copyright traditionally concerns itself on artistic work - not whether or not said artistic work can be encoded or decoded to a number. So, you may freely calculate the number that makes an MP4 file of "The Lion King" - however it's still unlawful to "consume" (watch/listen to) that given piece of artistic work as a video file, as the artistic purpose of "The Lion King" is to be consumed as an audiovisual experience (aka. a movie).
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KockPix.smpl - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:25:18 EST Nve3U6CB No.122777 Reply
>>122580
Stream the stuff, or upload it to MEGA with a VPN/Proxy on. Then proceed to transfer all of this throughout the web. You can stream, but it is illegal to download this (which illegally obtained, I am assuming).
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WalterDallypurk.dxf - Fri, 22 May 2020 08:24:43 EST dGJJ65IS No.122905 Reply
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>Given that a file on a computer is essentially just a very large number, can't we work around copyright laws to share a file,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

>So first we split the number(file) into a base and a multiplier, that we host on separate servers.
this is the ideal behind compression and file splitting/"Striping" which was popular before internet got gud

>the requirement for at least 2 servers (likely with +1 extra server to host filenames/metadata and links to the base and multipliers).
This is the principle behind P2P download networking (Torrenting)


pic unrelated because im using 420chan as a free hosting to send an image to someone because i have fucking brain damage
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RebeccaPillychurk.lit - Sat, 09 Jan 2021 00:23:46 EST a63nWFau No.123248 Reply
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>>123143
ffmpeg is for video formats conversion, not youtube-dl
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VEVO - Thu, 11 Mar 2021 05:07:24 EST RUjq0+1r No.123420 Reply
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>>123139
Replace youtube.com into youtu10.com (just replace "be" to "10")
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HannahBradgebune.sys - Thu, 03 Feb 2022 06:20:09 EST ETG+e7Kt No.123754 Reply
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>>123732
Like a sumo wrestler, this site is heavy!
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DavidSollynut.drv - Fri, 13 May 2022 23:18:02 EST wosGq1Mh No.123787 Reply
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>>123732
that one is sweet...
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