I used to live there.

>>28566
Or you could disregard everything Cyril said because he sounds like a jaded neckbeard from 3rd Ed who's 5 editions behind.

Play for fun. There's no need to make "competitive" lists because it is, at its very core, a *game*. You don't need to play to win and if you find someone who is intent at doing that, don't play with them. Win-At-All-Cost players are cancer and no fun to play with.

I was also surprised there wasn't a thread until now. I play grey knights and hot damn did my guys get nerfed. The new psychic phase and rules seem to have really handicapped my army. My dreadknights seem are out and paladins are better than terminators. At least my squads of interceptors are safe in the new books. Kinda sucks but ive heard lots of different armies complaining so maybe they did achieve the balance they were looking for.

>>28569
I main Guard and I am nothing but pleased by this turn of events.

>>28568
You could even read my whole post. You didn't, you just read a few words and assembled a strawman and it wasn't even because I made a long post, you're a 40k player so that's not an obstacle. You just don't like to admit that GW's model is rather cynical even if the WH40K universe holds a spot in a lot of hearts. Though a few corrections.

>I do not sound like a neckbeard I am a cranky old man
>I am stuck in second edition when you had save modifiers (which they finally brought back) and vortex grenades (everything in the area dies if it's not got a displacer field fucking lol)
>third made some of the biggest changes ever. The difference between subsequent editions is tiny compared to it. Codexs actually carry over between editions now like fuck they would have done that in 2nd and 3rd.
>seriously the stats weren't even the same, the great unclean one was T8 W10. 4+ unmodified save except against force weapons, locational hit tables on tanks "damage" stat on weapons, terminators having a 3+ save but on 2D6...

When I was a kid I had a few friends who played but when you're a kid the person with the most money always wins because they always have cool new units and you don't. So you'd buy a new unit with the hopes of beating them after saving for 3 months and they'd buy 2 more units the next week and back to status quo. If I had more money I'd consider 40K again because I'd be able to splurge some money and get a bit of everything and the games would be down to who picks smarter and players better on the day. Apparently whichever codex just got released is best though.

Being competitive doesn't mean I GOTTA WIN EVERY TIME. It means you can compete, as in put up a fight, be competition and not just a faceroll. If my friends didn't go out drinking for one month they'd probably be able to buy about 4000 points worth of shit for a given army and continue saving up, paying their bills etc. They'd be able to get 1 or 2 of every unit and be able to pick whatever comp they want for a game and once you've got enough money to do that (or to do it over 6 months because everyone needs to make and paint …

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Picked up my first dreadnought ever last week. Looks like they'll be replacing my dread knights. Any suggestions on where to buy twin linked auto cannons for thme? I'm trying not to go through forge world.

>>28556
wish i could, explicitly illegal in my state =(

>>28558
meant to say, right now i'm just starting out at low stakes tournaments (<$100 buy in). I've done well 4 times out of roughly 30-40 attempts so i'm far from a winning player (got 1st once, cashed another time and had 2 final tables). Working on my game by reading up, playing some home games, and trying to spot my weaknesses.

Not really comfortable shelling out a $300-$500 buyin for 1/3 or 2/5 NL cash game at a casino so I'll probably be a tourny player for a while. Really hoping online poker gets legalized in washington but it doesnt seem like it'll happen any time soon.

How is your game?

>>28560
I'd suggest learning short stacking, if you can buy in for 25BB or less you could build roll on those cash games fairly easily, especially if people buyin big and are loose.

As for me still playing 5nl, on a breakeven period atm, trying to study and grind through it.

I forgot the fun of miniatures....

Went from no one to table top with in years, to all my friends realizing how fun it is and now having to run not one but TWO DnD campaigns a week.

BWG

>tfw your friends clown you for playing mtg so you play in secret

Well I was out till 1am last night playing D&D.

DMing for a group. Last session involved a lot of walking around a city fluffing persuasion checks. I let them buy some information off the theives guild in the city because the players exhausted or discarded all the leads I threw at them. I'm a believer that you should always have an obvious solution and maybe a less obvious one to most problems but be ready for the players to come up with something you didn't think up and then go with it because it works. In this case the thieves guild is very powerful and so it made sense they'd know..

I think it was a bit of a shock to spend 3 hours wandering around shops and bars after the last session was a 7 hour dungeon crawl/goblinoid genocide session. Some of the players are newish and so I'm trying to give them a bit of everything. I'm really regretting letting a new player go druid though as there so many options she just ended up overwhelmed. That and sorc are terrible picks for clueless players.

They've technically finished the current quest but there's cultists and (lesser/least) demons to slay so they're going to clear out the mansion before they head off to their next adventure.

>>28515
Shit get's expensive tho.

>>28506

Izzet before dimir.

>>28527

>booster box opening

dude, why wouldn't you just play drafts

so many upsides, only 'downside' is that it takes time....but the point of the game is to pass the time anyway.........................

>>28561
cracking packs is fun, and if this guy works at a store, then it's his job to crack boxes.............................

>>28563

>fun

or you just have a totally out of control addiction

>>28563
Naaah man im good just splitting a box with my buddy everytime a new set somes out, only runs you like 60$ CDN

>>28387
I think pretty much anything that actually has an ability curve where good and bad is meaningful, the best players have a mix of talent, effort and research with the true masters who understand everything else able to create because they know how their new styles will work with existing ones. If you try hard though and do your research that will usually put you above middle third. You'll be almost out the bump. Without practice and effort you won't even reach that section. Whether you're at the edge of the bulge or past the hump in the normal curve entirely is what talent decides. If you love chess why not just be the best you can?

You know, I've always wondered about the idea of a collectible-card-game/deck-building-type model of Chess where you can build your "army" via point-buy and buy extra pieces ala the classic Fairy Chess pieces like the Grasshopper or the Threeleaper to expand your deck.

Anyone else ever thought of that?

>>28539
Table top games do this, LOTR and warhammer fantasy/40k come to mind

>>28554
Yeah though they're much more open and unbalanced and money grabby, especially GW.

>>28555
Agreed, but I do think there are some work arounds. I mean, you don't technically need the fancy $40 model of a hover tank to say its a hover tank, it just looks cool. Then one can probably pirate the rule set and go to the races.

I do think that the 'indy' boardgame scene is in good shape right now, the model of 'building' something given a restriction then battling it out could work. There is a deck building game called dominion which has melded that mechanic pretty well but it doesn't have what you were talking about (a point bank which you use to purchase an 'army').

If you are good at graphic design and using software, I think it would be sweet to design a game like that and see if kick starter will help you to market. Plenty of games have started out that way

>>28332
watery grave

>>28328

If I could remember it all I would happily post it.

All I remember for a fact is it had this guy: http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/kamahl-fist-of-krosa/

I remember thinking he was awesome and building the deck around him using all kinds of crazy lands, green creature producing cards and different artifacts to get the desired effect. They were all from around the same early-2000s time, if that helps.

>>28117

Trying to build my first EDH deck at the moment, struggling to decide between what to swap between main and maybe at the moment. Help is wanted.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/krenko-bob-mo/

>>28528
anything specific? it looks good enough. just play it a bit and you'll see what's lacking.

>>28332
>>28333
You can, but the combo relies heavily on drawing with Griseldaddy; on top of that, you've got the Gitaxian Probes and the occasional Thoughtseize. Basically, this is one of the few decks that really feels the pain from shocklands. It would still be playable, but at maybe... let's say 60% efficiency, to pull a number out of my ass lol. Honestly, I can't tell you how many times I've gone down to 1-2 life before winning, where a shockland would've meant seeing 7 fewer cards.

Fuck, looking back at that post, remembering how much fun Jeskai Prowess used to be in Modern... I'm still pissed off about the Git Probe ban. It didn't even do shit to Death's Shadow decks, they just evolved into an even more nasty beast, but that card was a linchpin in so many fun, 'tier 3' decks, all of which died with the ban. Like, Modern has become more open at the cost of most of the non-linear stuff being snuffed out; I doubt that Ad Nauseam will be around much longer.

>>28531

>Could you possibly point me in the direction of some information or an article that explains the phasing out of "regeneration" and "land walking"?

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/150524883138/re-regeneration-turning-into-indestructible-eot
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/159809322488/is-nonbasic-landwalk-retired-too-or-other

>I''v also seen plenty of white cards with regenerate, so I don't think that is too weird for white.

Those were almost all from before indestructible was keyworded. Those cards would get indestructible today.

>I will get my balanced instant discard, I really want to make it work, but not broken or unplayable.

I don't know if it can be balanced, so I hope you can get it right. At least, you have to raise the cost out of isochron scepter's range. the problem is that even if you can only have 4 of these in your deck, you can abuse the effect many more times than that and prevent your opponent from playing magic. Blue and green can get the card back from the graveyard. Red can copy it when you cast it. Blue can give it flashback, etc. This is the type of effect that, even if you get right in a vacuum, you have to design around every other card around it so you don't accidentally break it.

Aid of the Alchemist is too strong at U. Blue should not be getting three 1/1 creatures on turn one. White gets two 1/1 token creatures for 1W and is the best color at this effect. Blue is the worst, so it shouldn't come anywhere near that (http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/157018334603/any-color-can-create-tokens-but-is-there-a).

>The idea was to give a blue a good turn one board position by sacrificing its later game.

Sacrificing later resources for a boon now is exactly red's flavor. Mechanically, I think the card could still be izzet though (since both care about instants and sorceries and red is good at tokens and the randomness that comes with this effect). I think UR might be a fair cost. {U/R}{U/R} might be be a little too aggressive, and I think this effect doesn't feel right at UU either. Maybe {U/R}R if UR doesn't work (but then it might not even be blue, ha!).

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>>28458
Who the fuck are you? The undisputed custom card creator judge of the world or someshit? These cards aren't real and are meant to be made for fun.

I'll throw any random bullshit in any textbox I damn well please.

>>28548

>are meant to be made for fun.

>>28521

>I try to make balanced cards that follow the pie.

I'm just someone who plays magic and is interested in its design and development, especially as it relates to the color pie. I'm also interested in discussing these things. if you think blue should get a card that circumvents one of its greatest weaknesses, please explain why.

>>28549

>>28548 and >>28521

Not the same person.

>>28550
i know. i'm just pointing out that you were actually trying to make balanced cards and not "throwing random bullshit in the textbox".

>>28536
Oh! Well, he's repeatedly assured us it's a big project for a relatively small team with day-jobs, and even mentioned he did some new art for it very recently

At the very least dude's been updating the bestiary consistently, so if you haven't checked it out in ages ya might as well! The very recent Ectosaur category is great, Ghostbusters-esque DInosaur Ghosts, and I think the Boo Men'd be amazing for filling out a MUGEN fighting game.

Pic sorta-related it's my own DeepStyle of one of the old black-n-white pics with one of the artist's old comic-pics.

>>28537
And dangit, I always forget how shitty my DeepStyles look when thumbnailed, it looks better full-sized I swear.

>>28535
This was probably the right place.

I get the vibe the guy has ideas but it'll probably never become a game because he's got this creepy (but also slightly darkly humourous) world full of hideous monsters in his head but I suspect he spends more time dreaming up new monsters than trying to make mechanics which are adaptable and deep enough to do the variety justice without being an enormous clunky clusterfuck.

>>28540
Well, actually he's not the one devving the mechanics of the TTRPG; it's a different (Again; small and with day jobs; hence why it's taking so long) team called Cat Powered Raygun studios; and they're not gonna have all the monsters from Day 1 to avoid that kinda clusterfuck . He's mainly doing the art n setting stuff; which he's mentioned actually doing some updates to recently for the pics he thinks he coulda done better.

Tho, dude has done game design before; he's got a small scavenger-hunt-y IRL game on his site called Homunculus Nightmare and has a simple combat system for his webcomic Awful Hospital, I trust he knows what he's doing.

>>28542
The only reference to how the mechanics actually work is that they aren't publishing the character sheet. I am very cynical but I do hope they publish it because this sounds like it's part pokemon, part paranoia and some "Build your own shit" thrown in.