>>174202
To me it looks like the Ohm tobacco is actually just tobacco meant for cigarettes but branded as "pipe" tobacco to hit a lower tax rate. I'd guess the real pipe tobacco has a thicker cut as well? Won't really do good in cigs, needs the larger dimensions of a bowl to keep lit.
You could just take it as a sign to try out pipe smoking. You don't even have to leave the site for basic info, >>174170

>>174203
all of the ones i got are a pretty good cut for cigarette, just not dry enough.
i would try smoking it from a pipe though. can i just use a little glass weed pipe to do it? or should i get a real tobacco pipe?

>>174204
Glass doesn't soak up moisture so I wouldn't think it'd be very enjoyable. I've tried a small (but real made for tobacco) one before and I didn't get much taste out of it, needs the bigger bowl. And weed resin and pipe tobacco really doesn't mix well, is like trying out tea but drinking it out of an unwashed beer can.
A good corn cob pipe is cheap. Clay can be cheap too, but they're more of a dice roll how they'll smoke. Then if you find you like piping you can look into grabbing a better briar one.

Adding some prices for reference;
Cheapest (new) real briar you'll find will be about $20, and it'll probably be a bit sucky if you don't make a good dice roll. $40 for a good one, and once you hit $50+ you're just paying for branding/reputation at that point. Could probably find a good quality preowned one for maybe $20-30 but then you'd have to know what to look out for.

Clay would be about $15, but some have much too tight draw to be usable. As long as you don't drop it it's more weather proof though. Can't burn out since it's clay, so will hold up in strong wind.

Cob would be between $5 and $15 depending on the style/model, but they always smoke well. As long as it isn't a cheap chinese one, those burn out very quickly. Missouri Meerschaum makes really good stuff, I'm not even in America and I enjoy them enough to feel that the import tax was worth it.

All have their good sides, and if one finds themselves liking pipe smoking one would do good to have one of each. A tobacco you'd find bland in one type of pipe might shine in another. The cob is a good start though. Most beginner friendly.

Smoked 2 cigs and did 30mg methadone and 600mg gabapentin. Feeling great as the cigs potentiated my opiate high. Feelsgoodman!

Smoking newport's. Ahhh u love the buzz like I do.

They were out of newport reds, and also the regular american spirits that I get when they're out of newport red so I got american spirit periques for the second time ever, and felt compelled to return to this board and site to post a second time 8 years later that they're kinda not special

>tfw u have cig smokers and dippers around the place
>when u chew

>>174199
I've smoked american spirits. My favorite are the black perique and the lights in the yellow pack. The orange pack is crap. I don't know how people smoke those things since theirs barely any smoke from it. It's exactly like blowing out air and no smoke whatsoever.

You can do that in most countries.
But it's not perfect tobacco, the curing process is different, also it's just 1 kind, every cigarette consists of 2 or 3 types of tobacco, except in canada, where cigarettes taste like shit.
I've smoked home tobacco before and it's really not that great, the flavour is just not there, it tastes very dull and non-aromatic. It's not an enjoyable smoke.

>>174196
You can buy several kinds from the right sites though. If you buy burley only I can understand why'd it be bland.
They kinda banned it in my country though. Still legal to buy whole leaves, but the kind that used to be sold (destemmed) got hit with taxation because it had been slightly prepared, even if it wasn't ready for smoking. Nobody selling the whole leaves domestically. And if customs doesn't think it's "whole leaf" enough you'll still get fined and taxed even though the product is sold as whole leaf, probably why there hasn't cropped up any whole leaf shops after the ban.

>>174197
how would you rate the smokes compared to regular cigarettes?

allow I to make the appropriate gestures and movements to initiate the combustion of thine cigarette, Jacko

>>171558
let me get that for you jacko

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let me jack that for you geppetto

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>>174152
It'll work, I like an occasional clove cig so I've tried that method and it works exactly as expected, another option is to just make your own clove tobacco which isnt hard by any means.
Get some whole cloves from the grocery store, cut the stems off and dump the heads into a jar of your choice of tobacco, you can stop there and still get a good clove smoke but I also like to take a bit of whole cloves, grind them in a coffee grinder, then I mix it with grain alcohol, strain it, dump the shots worth of clove infused alcohol into the jar then set it on a plate to dry, really gives it some extra flavor without having to add more cloves to the smoke. Any of the methods work well enough tbh, so your choice.

>>174175
Interesting that I stumbled upon this thread now; I just got done smoking my first self made clove cigarette. I don't normally smoke since I switched to vaping a while ago, but ryo clove cigs are good shit. I used a menthol flavored filter for mine cause I'm a sucker for menthol. I separated the heads from the stem and crushed them very roughly because if you leave those mostly intact, they'll make that characteristic popping noise as you smoke them. I used a mortar to finely grind the stems since they won't burn well if you leave them in big chunks. For the tobacco, I used American Spirit with a clove: tobacco ratio of 1:3.

>>174155
Mac Baren rolling tobacco original choice. Don't know if it's the best, but it's the best I've had.

>>174155
Not really that expensive, but I've heard good stuff about Peter Stokkebyes RYO.

>>174155

>>174093
Cannabis, tobacco/nicotine makes me physically ill. Last time I tried smoking tobacco I got nauseous and everything seemed to smell like dog poop.

Friend says he's trying to quit smoking, but so far the faggot still buys Lucky Strikes and he tries to mooch weed off of me for his spliffs every time he visits.

>>174094
That's for the best, is best not to smoke.

I have a need for green, and otherwise I'd smoke everyday. Can't seem to eat it in any amount for effect. Smoke the highest potency Ganja I can buy to keep the number of bowls I need, and the mass of plant I burn, smaller. Always less than 2g per day, my MMJ prescription limit, as I'm not gunning for euphoria.

I hope you find a frequency that is rare enough or an amount small enough that you can enjoy smoking these plants if you should still choose.

>>174052
I didn't know Lucky Strikes came in menthol lights. Must be a European thing?

>>174139
European/asian*

>>174140
Haven't seen them in shops myself, actually. Either they're rare/discontinued or more of an Asian thing.

dont make it into tea, 1 cig will kill your ass
just smoke the shit dont ruin the fucking cigarettes man.

Seconding above, use cigarettes as cigarettes, and get something else for the future if you wanna stay comfy inside. Snus isn't my thing, but snuff is great. YMMV.

Adding:

> cob pipes; all smoke well

Assuming you get a Missouri Meerschaum one, cheap(er) chinese ones and others are said to just burn through.
MM use special cobs grown for pipes, and treat them with plaster to make them more tough. There's untreated ones too, but even them are good as long as you don't smoke them in strong wind.

Maybe I'll make another post later and write up some about what kinds of tobacco and cuts there are.

Nothing really new here but I enjoyed the read. Feel free to post some more on tobacco types. I'm especially interested in flake tobaccos and the differences between Virginia / burley / black cavendish / perique etc. For some reason I have a inclination towards Virginia and against black cavendish but I am not sure why. Probably because my first tobacco was some old ass Capn Black and I just assumed black cavendish was horrible from that point onwards.

>>174174
Yeah, I just found the thought neat, if an interested 420channer could pick up pipe smoking without referring elsewhere except a tobacco shop for the materials.
Tobacco stuff coming up, and also some critical pieces I forgot to mention before.


One important thing I forgot to mention is bite.
If you're lucky you'll smoke a while before encountering it, if not you might bump into it with your first blend.
In short it just feels like.. It's hard to, maybe like a chemical burn or something. Some tobacco just don't agree with us, might be some type of tobacco you're not compatible with, or it might just be that one blend for some reason, might be PH of it not agreeing with that of your mouth, but it's uncomfortable and it'll happen sooner or later.
Sometimes it can be mended by drying it a bit more or less, or sipping very carefully, using a smaller pipe, but sometimes it'll occur whatever you do. If the tobacco still tastes good, save it. It might get better if it gets to sit in a jar some months, and if not you can still mix it with something else in small batches until you find something that combats it. This is also true for tobacco that you don't like so much, maybe it's monotone or harsh. Won't work if the tobacco tastes like ass, then you'll just ruin more tobacco, but if it's just flawed somehow you should save it.

Example, I have one tobacco that's really good, but it's bity whatever I do and it's weak (nic wise), and another that tastes mostly like salty tar and blasts my face off (if that sounds interesting, Old Joe Krantz by Cornell&Diehl). Mixed the two up, now I no longer get bite, the nicotine levels are there but comfortable, and it tastes great. Two tobaccos can be be saved by one mix. Mind you tobaccos don't have to be bad to benefit from mixing, rum rope and a burley flake mixes fantastically, makes packing/smoking easier and makes for a more stout smoke.
Only thing to have in mind is to only mix small volumes, so you don't waste on borked attempts. Mix maybe two bowlfuls at most and write down the ratio, if it was good, mix more then.

Now, to the tobacco itself.
The two main tobaccos are burley and virginia, and make up most of most blends and mixtures.

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DRYING AND STUFFS

You should only dry on a per pipe basis. Not only cause if you overdry you overdry it all, but also cause you don't generally want the same dryness every time, and the tobacco keeps better as is. In general if it feels moist to the touch it needs drying, but it should still be flexible, if it's brittle it's too far gone.
If it's too moist, you'll struggle keeping it lit, and those moments you do there'll be too much steam in the smoke diluting the taste. Might gurgle alot (moisture collects at bottom of bowl/stem, gurgles when you draw).
If it's too dry, it'll burn too fast and too hot, harsh and almost astringent smoke. Also somewhat counterintuitive, might also start gurgling (moisture is released while you smoke, more the hotter the ember).

It all depends on the weather though, if it's a rainy and moist day outside you can still have a good smoke if you let the tobacco get a bit more towards almost too dry since it'll take moisture out of the air and get soggy otherwise.

If tobacco ends up bone dry (forgetting a bunch of tobacco in a temporary not airtight container etc), there's things you can do. Alot of flavour wafts off with the moisture, but it being so dry means it'll absorb other flavours better. If you have some nice spirits, rum especially, you can put the tobacco in a sealed container with a shot of it (in a small glass, better effect than putting spirit directly on the tobacco), and the tobacco will wick up moisture and aromas as it evaporates. Using other (still too moist for smoking) tobacco works good as well, aromas that would otherwise disappear into the air while drying it (for smoking) gets absorbed by the other tobacco instead.
Of course you can remoisten with just water also, but then you're not replacing any flavour you lost.

ADDING DRINK and STUFFS

Kinda forgot about this, but having a drink to your pipe makes a huge difference. I didn't really start enjoying pipes for real until I did. A standard black tea works with everything, but other stuff might do better / worse depending on the tobacco. I cannot have anything fizzy, even beer, to my tobacco cause it hurts my tounge when combined with pipe smoke for some reason, but if it doesn't for you that's a whole spectrum to try.

Green tea does really well with virginias, the bitter and slightly acidic notes makes for a good contrast really bringing out the sweetness of the tobacco. Will not work with most other tobaccos though, tried it with burley once and it was just bitter stacked on bitter and became too much.

Coffee has been too overpowering for most tobaccos I've tried it with, you need something that really can stand up to it. I suspect a feisty latakia blend with more spice than depth might suffice.

Herbal teas work great too, pic related is almost as versatile as just black tea with milk, done well with every tobacco I've thrown at it.

>>174068

>smoking tobacco out of a ghettobong

a bit excessive don't you think?

>>174068
pls buy a proper acrylic or glass water pipe. They are god mode for smoking tobacco.

Mine is for medical marijuana, and is close to my soul. I call it the ceremonial pipe. It is associated further with my indigeneity in that my cousins down south in North America used water pipes more commonly for their tobacco.
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This is something I made. It's not hard at all. You need a mason jar, some kind of mouthpiece, a downstem, and a bowl that fits the downstem. I've broken this thing many-a-gime, but ive had it with me for 2 it 3 years.

>>174068
nah, i don't like smoking plastic. pass.

>>174164
cool idea man, maybe clean it though? or at least get some fresh water for it..

Switched from cigs to dip about a year ago. I think my first can was grizzly wintergreen cuz my great-grandfather liked it but my NEXT can was cope wintergreen. Liked the cope so these days I alternate each purchase between cope mint and the wintergreen.

>>174107
I have the fondest memories for Kodiak Wintergreen Long Cut, but I love the sting and burn of Klondike Wintergreen Short Cut, too.

I believe I've tried Grizzly Mint Long Cut in 2016 through a guy who bought them off a baseball player who bought them up to sell them off when he came back across the border. $10 tins.

I live in Canada, and we have Skoal and that's about it. I love my American Chew. I hope to settle with one soon.

Man I love me some southern blend. Anyone ever heard of Black Buffalo? Apparently it's tobacco free dip. I'm gonna try some, but if anyone already has let me know how it is.

https://blackbuffalo.com