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Bacc off vs Smokey Mountain

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- Fri, 17 Mar 2017 20:37:31 EST pT9qlxcv No.173384
File: 1489797451020.jpg -(64658B / 63.14KB, 607x480) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Bacc off vs Smokey Mountain
Have any of you tried Baccoff fake chew? I tried using smokey mountain the flavor was decent, but the consistency grossed me out with how tea-like and stringy it is. is baccoff more realistic? I'm more into consistency rather than flavor. What types of fake chew have you guys used and liked?
pic is what's currently wearing a hole in my lip
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James Bebberville - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 01:20:51 EST B+O44xSo No.173421 Reply
>>173387
Its a herbal product sometimes containing small amounts of nicotine.
Mostly used to help those quit dipping. I've never tried it myself, but heard its not very effective.
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Clara Mobblesad - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 10:39:49 EST ZE6VtRhc No.173424 Reply
Always thought they were maybe cool but ultimately stupid. If they don't give any kind of buzz (even if not just nicotine) what's the point?

Anyway I quit completely, all the products that try to "wean you off" dip or nicotine in any way are just further psychological barriers in the way of you being able to say "I ACTUALLY want to quit". I didn't bother with playskool excuses to keep the habit alive in some small way. A clean break was the only thing that worked
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Corazón de León !XxZFXH5yTI - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:51:03 EST E0AeL4Xk No.173448 Reply
My dad swore by it when he had to give up 40 years of dipping to get approved for life insurance.

Seemed to work.

Of course he packed a lip of Cope Snuff while walking out of the physical after getting his blood drawn.

No buzz from tobacco

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- Fri, 31 Mar 2017 09:57:15 EST TpPTofLh No.173403
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Has anybody noticed that most cigarettes give no nicotine buzz?

I live in LA but perhaps this happened to you too. Please let me know!
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Gnarly McGoblin - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 19:11:47 EST dakCC59T No.173415 Reply
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To be brutally honest with you, OP, buy a glass bong if you want to get a world shattering buzz every time you smoke.
Smoking tobacco through a bong is the most effective way to consume tobacco. In my humble and lot experience. It fucks you up.It is perverted. You might loose consciousness. You might rolll up your eyes so that one can only the white.
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Angus Pengerdut - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:06:21 EST kqZF4dIa No.173435 Reply
I really don't like missing out on the buzz, so that's why I only smoke strong cigarettes

Unfiltered cigarettes appreciation thread

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- Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:41:16 EST fsZ3vXlg No.173426
File: 1492022476131.jpg -(4360437B / 4.16MB, 4160x3120) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Unfiltered cigarettes appreciation thread
These are the best cigs I've ever had in my life. Honestly blow Luckies out of the water imo. Worth the 8.50 or so seeing as a pack lasts me a little under 3 days as opposed to smoking about 12 regular filtered cigs a day. So savory and packs onr hell of a punch. Whats your guys favorite unfiltered cigs? And hoe much do they cost in your area?
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Clara Greenforth - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 02:14:32 EST dXAmd9PP No.173428 Reply
Also smoking some camel unfiltered
Luckies are good but Im on the same boat as you that camels are so much better
If you can find them the pall mall unfiltered are pretty good but if you're looking for an amazing unfiltered cigarette, Phillip Morris commanders, super hard to find so I would go to a place that can do special orders but even with that they're still almost impossible to find but when you do find them they're some of the best unfiltered you can find
Here camels and luckies and pall malls are pretty much the same price, ranging from anywhere form 8.06 a pack with tax included to a whopping 9.24 with tax at some stations that don't sell them as much

Cigarette slang

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- Wed, 13 May 2015 08:56:54 EST x7PrXBbm No.168531
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What are some of the slang terms you use for cigarettes? we call them "gwaais" (pronounced "gw-eyes")
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Gnarly McGoblin - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 05:40:08 EST ZLVKqxie No.173422 Reply
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In Germany we say "Kippe" or "Zigarette" sometimes "Fluppe". And there is a local saying: "Lipper kotzen nicht!" meaning that I'm not allowed to throw up. Because of my honor.
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Gnarly McGoblin - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 05:52:04 EST ZLVKqxie No.173423 Reply
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>>173389
on a random note:
I might am drunk since 5 days but I am not as dense as this motherfucker.
It was probably me and I have a split personality. fml.
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William Brunderhall - Wed, 17 May 2017 12:03:23 EST FbahJdF7 No.173499 Reply
Haven't been on this board in almost 2 years
The fact that this thread is still going is fucking ridiculous.

Sublingual nicotine mints

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- Mon, 21 Nov 2016 22:54:52 EST ZZPcOrJZ No.173106
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So recently I've been crushing these mints and subbing them. It's amazing. Legit nicotine high that lasts ages and no guilt or stigma. Or is there? Does anyone know how bad nicotine itself is for you on a chemical level? Or anything about the bio availability compared to smoking? Going through 20 or 30 mg a day.

If anyone wants a nicotine high without the gross smoking or chew I highly recommend this btw
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Oliver Dellerkeg - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 21:41:07 EST FbahJdF7 No.173524 Reply
>>173175
You're kinda right.
In order to kill you a drop of pure nicotine would have to be ingested, not just placed on your skin.

Before and after nicotine addiction

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- Wed, 01 Mar 2017 15:18:03 EST TyBJP2Da No.173356
File: 1488399483902.jpg -(29034B / 28.35KB, 640x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Before and after nicotine addiction
I'm not a "big fan" of nicotine and tobacco, but I've noticed it helps a lot if I get some anxiety (maybe couple of times a week) or when I have to seriously focus on some scientific texts I'm working on. I'm not addicted to it yet, but I'm thinking of increasing frequency because it feels so benefitical. It seems to increase my focus while caffeine seems to do the opposite. In the past I used a random cigarette now and then, or even a pipe, and these days I'm mostly using nicotine gum and sometimes e-cigar. My question is, if I seriously get hooked on it as result and need it even when not anxious and not working on anything, and then decided to go down in frequency and amounts, has life change in any way? Will I permanently long for nicotine the rest of my life?
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Rebecca Cluckleshaw - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:38:37 EST vTPEcSz/ No.173380 Reply
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>>173372
Update I found digestive support, in combination with apple cider vinegar for HCl production, and green tea for anti oxidants and natural well being.

But yes that is what I was talking about how you described it, sitting in the stomach.

I feel almost normal now, part of the problem was psychosis induced from feeling that way to not want to help myself get better.

I would recommend this to anyone trying to quit.>>173372
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Nathaniel Grandridge - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 17:15:09 EST p/z4eG4W No.173401 Reply
>>173356
Idk where this thread is going, i haven't read any of it. But i must say i smoke like 1-4 cigs a day,

I used to smoke much more, not THAT much more but a good amount more, I think drinking stopped it. Idk unless you are a REAL HARD nicotine addict 1-3 a day will tickle your fancy enough. Any more than that makes me sick,
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Phyllis Semblebury - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:10:20 EST vTPEcSz/ No.173402 Reply
>>173401
I figure its the reason behind smoking that will cause more and more, if the reason continues to escape the satisfaction of nicotine use, then it will require more and more.

menthol

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- Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:44:14 EST LgOel6cO No.173238
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>Like duuude menthols are for like guuurls

Just fuck off with this bullshit
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Nicholas Clammlebury - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:56:13 EST 23/KAOBu No.173393 Reply
>>173359
>Menthols make me kinda nauseous
me too.
why though? I can eat a thousand mints in one sitting and enjoy it all, but after i smoke a menthol i feel kind of bad, little nauseous, kinda like im always about to puke. it doesnt happen with full flavors.
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Angus Pullywell - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 00:25:53 EST kraALMDH No.173395 Reply
>>173391

Either you smoke like a god man, or sit and piss like the rest of the bitches Menthols just treats the gayness in you, it's one of its off label use.
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Thomas Brabberfuck - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:20:52 EST ldcoAwEp No.173396 Reply
They'll be banned completely in EU countries by 2020.

Smoke it up, Fags!

I need to Quit Again

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- Sun, 05 Feb 2017 17:18:41 EST dm2yl6F8 No.173262
File: 1486333121882.jpg -(80448B / 78.56KB, 570x370) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I need to Quit Again
I quit smoking for about a year, and now I started last week.
I already feel like shit. Fuck how do I quit again.
I'm not getting another pack, and I have a stupid vape to deal with withdrawal.
How do I quit besides powering through like I did last time?

>1 year of wasted work
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Augustus Cubberford - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:40:32 EST 41KcP0yY No.173353 Reply
>>173262
I quit, but I occasionally have a cig now and again, 3-4 times a year when I have bad cravings. I let myself have it, don't feel guilty, and then don't have any more for a while. Having a weird sense of guilt about relapses just makes you more addicted IMO
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Simon Bloppercocke - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:00:25 EST pGve9pHU No.173390 Reply
>>173262
You use any other form of nicotine?

If you use another form it obviously isn't nearly as bad quitting, but a real smoke definitely does the job better. From the tactile sensation down to the "Whole tobacco alkaloids or 'WTA'".

I stopped smoking so much, I mean i am really content on 1-4 a day now. Granted i love a damn smoke, but sometimes you need to just let yourself fiend for one, it will be that much better. I drink a lot and this has surprisingly put a damper on my cig usage. Went from like 4-6 a day to 1-4 a day. Mostly because of nausea and stomach discomfort which leads me to not really want a cig so much.

How much do you smoke? The way i see it is that 1-3 a day isn't that bad compared to people who smoke literally two packs a day (which is nuts to me but they are the true badasses). Cancer doesn't work that way, but i would imagine what i smoke isn't nearly as bad as the two pack a day smoker.

IMO nicotine isn't that hard to quit, it is staying away that is the problem. Your body and mind still thinks "man i want a smoke". So if you don't find yourself to be the person to quit entirely (not telling you to give up btw), smoke less and find another alternative. Get a vape and use that most of the time, limit yourself to 1-2 smokes a day, then eventually give up traditional tobacco entirely. Then , maybe even the vape. Or just go balls out and stop but who wants to do that right?

Retard Smoker Stories

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- Sun, 21 Aug 2016 04:25:57 EST Wjkktdx0 No.172647
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>bum a lucky to a buddy
>tell him to flip it around and light the end with the logo so the gooks can't tell we've been here
>"wouldn't it be bad for you to breath in the burning ink??"
>mfw
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Fucking Grandspear - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:03:53 EST +Ty2xniK No.172933 Reply
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>tripping on nbomes
>on a nightclub at the smokers area
>decide i want a cig really bad
>ask my friend who is also tripping for one
>he gives me and when i go get the lighter with my other hand i realize i already had a lit cig on my hand
>realize i also already had another cig in the back of my ear for later
>mfw i realized all this
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Eliza Migglewetch - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:56:28 EST OuQJ8CI2 No.173165 Reply
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>>172933
>'tripping' on datura
>smoke cigarettes
>they disappear in my hands

Pipe smoking and lung cancer risk bullshit or no?

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- Sat, 11 Mar 2017 23:25:37 EST NW2vb59i No.173373
File: 1489292737518.jpg -(18301B / 17.87KB, 480x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Pipe smoking and lung cancer risk bullshit or no?
Surprisingly, Smoking Tobacco From A Pipe May Have Health Benefits
http://eattheplanet.org/surprisingly-smoking-tobacco-from-a-pipe-may-have-health-benefits/
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Thomas Nombledock - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 05:38:44 EST jibWtxvI No.173377 Reply
Damn that's pretty cool. I've used a pipe occasionally and I fucking enjoyed it. If its gonna make me healthier maybe I should just switch over full time to one.
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Augustus Gebblenore - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 18:29:14 EST 2Jux8C6B No.173379 Reply
pipe smoking is generally a leisurely and stress relieving pursuit. Stress is the biggest indirect killer of them all. Generally pipe tobacco is a more natural and higher quality product than what goes into almost all cigarettes. When smoking a pipe or cigar, the smoke is not usually inhaled, just tasted. Thus there is less of a chance of lung cancer and cardiovascular disease. Still, when I smoke I think about the oral and esophageal cancers... and I'm still breathing in small amounts of second hand smoke through my nostrils.

Vaping tabacco

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- Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:51:08 EST ui7vkize No.173366
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If I used a herb vaporizer for tobacco not like an ecig is that safer and by how much?
I tried googling it but everything was talking about ecigs
Pic unrelated
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Ebenezer Shittingcocke - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:33:08 EST 41KcP0yY No.173369 Reply
>>173366

Tobacco companies actually tried this years ago, it was quite a bit safer but was prone to accidentally combusting the tobacco, it tasted like shit, the device was difficult to use and keep clean, etc.
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Thomas Nombledock - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 05:36:37 EST jibWtxvI No.173376 Reply
>>173369
If there was some sort of tabbaco vape I'd be intrested in that too. But if the tabbaco combusts maybe fucking not. I don't really want the thing blowing up in my face.

Quitting decreases your tolerance to other drugs?

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- Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:50:47 EST zDThlp4h No.173046
File: 1477579847996.png -(333147B / 325.34KB, 471x464) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Quitting decreases your tolerance to other drugs?
Has anyone quit before and noticed that after a while, your tolerance to other drugs decreases?

I feel like ever since I started dipping daily, whenever I smoke weed I can't enjoy it as much. Especially considering I usually smoke at night, and nowadays I usually dip at night. If I smoke weed and dip before/after, it measurably kills my high. I googled it and it seems to happen to a lot of other people. Makes sense considering tobacco brings a buzz of its own, so all those catecholamines that could be going towards the weed high are recruited for the baccy buzz.
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Doris Fivingfed - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:43:07 EST TQFJAWve No.173351 Reply
Stimulants in general will reduce the "stoned" feeling, nicotine is no exception.
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George Ginnerbod - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 10:35:38 EST 23/KAOBu No.173355 Reply
>>173351
When i get stoned first and smoke a cig after ive not had one for a couple hours i get 10x as stoned for 10 minutes

Dip vs snus

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- Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:58:57 EST EYQUzEwT No.173283
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Dip vs snus? Which do you like better?
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Cyril Gommlested - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 07:12:21 EST JhSwyzjl No.173292 Reply
Swedish snus is the best thing I've had in my mouth.
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Betsy Duffingnag - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:53:06 EST 41KcP0yY No.173343 Reply
>>173283

Real, imported swedish snus is amazing. American snus is ass.

Making your own snus/dip thread

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- Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:39:31 EST G41XQUl0 No.173229
File: 1484948371128.jpg -(54760B / 53.48KB, 600x762) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Making your own snus/dip thread
Alright, so say I've had half a lb of organic flue-cured dark burley sitting around in my room for about a year now. Bought it off leafonly.com and planned to make my own copenhagen-style dip, but was too lazy and couldn't find a decent guide that explained the basics. I'm wondering:

  1. It's been sitting in an open plastic bag exposed to the air for most of this time. Will this diminish its potency/make it more prone to spoilage or anything? When I got it it was fairly dry (not sure if bone-dry though).

2. What's the minimum I have to do in order to make it dippable? From my understanding, first off, the major difference between snus and [american] dip seems to be that the former is pasteurized while the latter is fermented. So:

2a. can both of those not be interchanged? i.e., fermented, then pasteurized? Or the other way around? Or just one rather than the other? Which is """"necessary"""" for good flavor and freebasing of nicotine? (from my reading, seems fermenting is better on this front, but solely pasteurizing prevents as many TSNA's from developing as a result of fermentation). I found an old guide that seems to promote pasteurizing, then fermenting, but I can't figure it out. The guy also uses multiple different types of bases - potassium carbonate (which I can't locate cheaply), as well as sodium carbonate (easy-just heated baking soda), but also pickling lime (which I bought for dirt cheap on ebay).

Basically I'm just trying to get decent DIY dip (or snus) with the bare littlest of effort required. However I can't deduce what is ACTUALLY the minimum, yet necessary steps, to start with plain (albeit cured at least) tobacco leaf and end up with a few cans of moist, preferably somewhat potent, snuff. Anyone help me out? I'm about to just wash, cut, and dump a bunch of pickling lime to let it ferment for a week and throw one in at this point. I've waited too long and am tired of commercial brands, especially with Cope raising their prices on everything but LC WG/mint recently.
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Nicholas Tillingwell - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 16:29:00 EST G41XQUl0 No.173347 Reply
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Since this topic hasn't gotten any replies, I'll just take an attempt at asking someone to explain very basically what it takes to make nicotine bioavailable from raw tobacco leaves in the first place.

For example in theory I could just roll up the dried cured leaves and smoke them just like that. Right? I guess that works because the nicotine is freebased when burned (maybe)? Which makes it easily absorbable through the lungs.

What about diffusion through the buccal mucous membranes though? What is the simple chemical basis for making tobacco leaf easy to be absorbed through the gums? Is it just raising the pH of the leaf? If that's the case then I suppose just mixing it with an aqueous solution of some alkaline material (baking soda, potassium hydroxide etc) would be an improvement upon literally sticking a wad of leaves in my mouth.

But I guess fermentation plays a role too, perhaps in accomplishing the same end goal of raising the leaves' pH? Can someone correct me or explain what it is that needs to be done to make baccy make me high

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