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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Air filters for smoke

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- Sat, 01 Dec 2018 13:43:51 EST dDmAwihI No.174192
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Does anyone here have any experience using use air filters for cigarettes smoke? I'm looking to get one for Christmas for my bedroom which I always smoke in; its not a problem during warm weather as I can open up the windows and skylight to circulate the outside air. I'm not worried too much about the smell as much as I am about the smoke particles itself floating around the room which ends up as dust everywhere.

Plus I have 2 cats which like to stay in my room a lot and I don't want them getting cat cancer because of me smoking. I looked up a bunch of different filters and it seems most filer the smell but not the actual smoke partials since they're extremely small , I might be wrong though. So if any of you guys use these yourself or know of any high quality filters that would be great.

Looking for best tobacco

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- Thu, 25 Oct 2018 01:43:22 EST IF4JMGbX No.174155
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What are the best ryo smoking tobacco and the most expensive, high quality that showed around? And what about ryo style dipping tobacco.
Barnaby Biddleridge - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:30:13 EST te3bsh6S No.174156 Reply
Mac Baren rolling tobacco original choice. Don't know if it's the best, but it's the best I've had.
Caroline Pockbanks - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:43:56 EST huAUtvdf No.174157 Reply
Not really that expensive, but I've heard good stuff about Peter Stokkebyes RYO.

Other uses for cigarettes

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- Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:12:33 EST +MADFByo No.174181
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So I have a bunch of cigarettes laying around and I don't wanna go outside because it's raining nor I want to smoke up my apartment. Are there any other ways of consuming the nicotine from cigarettes? Last time I tried putting them up my upper lip like snus but it didn't really work. I though about steeping them in a tea or something but that's just disgusting, for snorting I guess I would have to ground them up to a snus like consistency. Well I guess I answered myself, but might as well post anyways. So have you ever tried making some nasty cigarette swill?
David Dommerdale - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:30:10 EST FS6XSMhU No.174183 Reply
dont make it into tea, 1 cig will kill your ass
just smoke the shit dont ruin the fucking cigarettes man.
Reuben Dellernuck - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:07:06 EST 6biCAZHY No.174184 Reply
Seconding above, use cigarettes as cigarettes, and get something else for the future if you wanna stay comfy inside. Snus isn't my thing, but snuff is great. YMMV.

Pipe Tutorial: By 420chan for 420chan

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- Mon, 05 Nov 2018 02:28:23 EST huAUtvdf No.174170
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There's many howtos already out there, but this is mine.
This one is locally produced.

So you want to smoke a pipe.

To smoke a pipe, you will need a pipe.
At a first pipe you don't need to (and should not) spend a lot, and might be detrimental to your experience if you're scared of ruining it (you can). And a more expensive pipe does not necessarily smoke better.
Your options,
Corn cob pipe:
  • Very affordable
  • All of them smoke well
  • But not "classy"
Clay Pipes
  • Very clean taste, only taste the tobacco
  • Cannot burn out, can handle being tossed in a fire
  • Usually cheap too
  • Available with stems
  • May have too tight draw
  • Fragile, don't drop it
Cheap briar
  • Varying quality, not necessarily dependent on price
  • It's a pipe.

So you have a pipe.
Now to smoke your pipe, you also need
  • Tobacco (duh)
  • Pipe cleaners
  • Lighter/Matches
  • Pipe tool (for stoking/packing your lit pipe, emptying, etc)
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Graham Nappertet - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 03:23:37 EST 6biCAZHY No.174176 Reply
Yeah, I just found the thought neat, if an interested 420channer could pick up pipe smoking without referring elsewhere except a tobacco shop for the materials.
Tobacco stuff coming up, and also some critical pieces I forgot to mention before.

One important thing I forgot to mention is bite.
If you're lucky you'll smoke a while before encountering it, if not you might bump into it with your first blend.
In short it just feels like.. It's hard to, maybe like a chemical burn or something. Some tobacco just don't agree with us, might be some type of tobacco you're not compatible with, or it might just be that one blend for some reason, might be PH of it not agreeing with that of your mouth, but it's uncomfortable and it'll happen sooner or later.
Sometimes it can be mended by drying it a bit more or less, or sipping very carefully, using a smaller pipe, but sometimes it'll occur whatever you do. If the tobacco still tastes good, save it. It might get better if it gets to sit in a jar some months, and if not you can still mix it with something else in small batches until you find something that combats it. This is also true for tobacco that you don't like so much, maybe it's monotone or harsh. Won't work if the tobacco tastes like ass, then you'll just ruin more tobacco, but if it's just flawed somehow you should save it.

Example, I have one tobacco that's really good, but it's bity whatever I do and it's weak (nic wise), and another that tastes mostly like salty tar and blasts my face off (if that sounds interesting, Old Joe Krantz by Cornell&Diehl). Mixed the two up, now I no longer get bite, the nicotine levels are there but comfortable, and it tastes great. Two tobaccos can be be saved by one mix. Mind you tobaccos don't have to be bad to benefit from mixing, rum rope and a burley flake mixes fantastically, makes packing/smoking easier and makes for a more stout smoke.
Only thing to have in mind is to only mix small volumes, so you don't waste on borked attempts. Mix maybe two bowlfuls at most and write down the ratio, if it was good, mix more then.

Now, to the tobacco itself.
The two main tobaccos are burley and virginia, and make up most of most blends and mixtures.
Virginia is lighter and sweeter, burley is... Burley. It almost has more presence than flavour, a deep feeling in your mouth. Needs some virginia to open up, give off a pleasant nuttiness. Very satisfying though.
Everything else is there as spice and condiment, but what would cooking be without spices?

Latakia, a smoked tobacco, it's not just simply smoky in flavour but you'd have to smoke it yourself. Generally people tend to love it or hate it, I like it a lot. Makes a blend cooler to smoke, easier to handle. If you've only smoked cigs before you'll be surprised tobacco can taste like this.
Used to be a syrian latakia, now most blends use cyprian latakia instead because the syrian isn't being made anymore. Still some blends that use it on the market though, old stock is available.
Perique is grown and made in Louisiana, pressed and fermented in barrels. Very commonly added to virginia, called VA/PERs in pipe circles online. (Escudo is probably the most loved one, can recommend) Gives pepperiness, a bit of spice, sometimes some fruitiness. The tobacco itself is a kind of burley, but it's been grown there long enough to be kind of its own "thing". Untreated probably wouldn't taste the same as other burley.
As a sidenote related to that, another burley that's been grown elsewhere is Semois, grown in Belgium by a dude. Very special stuff, I'd describe it as a floral mushroom in taste, sometimes when you sip it real slow notes of chocolate come up as well. Almost reminds me of cigars, except I don't like cigars, but I like this. Also a good example of how different tobaccos can be, it comes almost bone dry, and you have to pack it down with all you might so it won't burn like a fuse, but it still draws fine even though any other blend would be packed shut and unsmokable without that kind of force.
There's different kinds of Orientals, which Latakia is one of but it's the most well known and used so it's usually named on it's own, makes sense too since the other ones aren't smoked. Loads of other different ones though, and I haven't…
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Archie Tootcocke - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:07:05 EST 6biCAZHY No.174179 Reply
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You should only dry on a per pipe basis. Not only cause if you overdry you overdry it all, but also cause you don't generally want the same dryness every time, and the tobacco keeps better as is. In general if it feels moist to the touch it needs drying, but it should still be flexible, if it's brittle it's too far gone.
If it's too moist, you'll struggle keeping it lit, and those moments you do there'll be too much steam in the smoke diluting the taste. Might gurgle alot (moisture collects at bottom of bowl/stem, gurgles when you draw).
If it's too dry, it'll burn too fast and too hot, harsh and almost astringent smoke. Also somewhat counterintuitive, might also start gurgling (moisture is released while you smoke, more the hotter the ember).

It all depends on the weather though, if it's a rainy and moist day outside you can still have a good smoke if you let the tobacco get a bit more towards almost too dry since it'll take moisture out of the air and get soggy otherwise.

If tobacco ends up bone dry (forgetting a bunch of tobacco in a temporary not airtight container etc), there's things you can do. Alot of flavour wafts off with the moisture, but it being so dry means it'll absorb other flavours better. If you have some nice spirits, rum especially, you can put the tobacco in a sealed container with a shot of it (in a small glass, better effect than putting spirit directly on the tobacco), and the tobacco will wick up moisture and aromas as it evaporates. Using other (still too moist for smoking) tobacco works good as well, aromas that would otherwise disappear into the air while drying it (for smoking) gets absorbed by the other tobacco instead.
Of course you can remoisten with just water also, but then you're not replacing any flavour you lost.
Archie Tootcocke - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 02:01:17 EST 6biCAZHY No.174180 Reply
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Kinda forgot about this, but having a drink to your pipe makes a huge difference. I didn't really start enjoying pipes for real until I did. A standard black tea works with everything, but other stuff might do better / worse depending on the tobacco. I cannot have anything fizzy, even beer, to my tobacco cause it hurts my tounge when combined with pipe smoke for some reason, but if it doesn't for you that's a whole spectrum to try.

Green tea does really well with virginias, the bitter and slightly acidic notes makes for a good contrast really bringing out the sweetness of the tobacco. Will not work with most other tobaccos though, tried it with burley once and it was just bitter stacked on bitter and became too much.

Coffee has been too overpowering for most tobaccos I've tried it with, you need something that really can stand up to it. I suspect a feisty latakia blend with more spice than depth might suffice.

Herbal teas work great too, pic related is almost as versatile as just black tea with milk, done well with every tobacco I've thrown at it.

simple water pipe

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- Sun, 12 Aug 2018 18:35:04 EST MWBj7scv No.174068
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im semi proud of the sheer simplicity of this

if you're like me and want a chill smoke in between burning your lungs

ideally you get a mcdonalds straw, water bottle, ice ice cold water

poke 2 holes one 2/3s down for the straw, one closer to the top which you cover with your thumb as a carb

pull out your filter about halfway out

bite off/ cut out a bit of the filter so its kinda cone shaped at the end so it can fit snugly into the straw

after the filter is in there nicely slide the cig back down and the paper should enclose the outside of the end of the straw and youll feel it nicely bump back against the filter

and viola! mouth on the top, cover the carb, light the cig and inhale a little harder than you would normally, you should see the top of the bottle get white with smoke, release your thumb and there you are!

:) honest to god my lungs feel butter already and this is pretty easy to assemble when you are craving
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Charlotte Buttingmat - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 18:35:53 EST QQmPS9d8 No.174164 Reply
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This is something I made. It's not hard at all. You need a mason jar, some kind of mouthpiece, a downstem, and a bowl that fits the downstem. I've broken this thing many-a-gime, but ive had it with me for 2 it 3 years.
Donald Chump - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:08:47 EST 4TRxeYm8 No.174166 Reply
cool idea man, maybe clean it though? or at least get some fresh water for it..

Favorite dip

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- Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:06:37 EST l2LYKoW2 No.174107
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What's yours?
Molly Shakecocke - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 22:01:57 EST MZ4YcscV No.174111 Reply
Switched from cigs to dip about a year ago. I think my first can was grizzly wintergreen cuz my great-grandfather liked it but my NEXT can was cope wintergreen. Liked the cope so these days I alternate each purchase between cope mint and the wintergreen.
SpeedDreamin' - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 09:06:35 EST rI9e/SIX No.174127 Reply
I have the fondest memories for Kodiak Wintergreen Long Cut, but I love the sting and burn of Klondike Wintergreen Short Cut, too.

I believe I've tried Grizzly Mint Long Cut in 2016 through a guy who bought them off a baseball player who bought them up to sell them off when he came back across the border. $10 tins.

I live in Canada, and we have Skoal and that's about it. I love my American Chew. I hope to settle with one soon.
Charlotte Buttingmat - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 18:27:12 EST QQmPS9d8 No.174163 Reply
Man I love me some southern blend. Anyone ever heard of Black Buffalo? Apparently it's tobacco free dip. I'm gonna try some, but if anyone already has let me know how it is.



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- Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:19:38 EST +Y6qqFWB No.174161
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My apartment used to have a chain smoker that lived in here for 27 years and then died from lung related issues. The smoke smell still lingers, and my skin now breaks out in rashes on and off. I never had sinus probs til now. Am I living in a toxic den? It smells like a bar.
Sophie Bluckledit - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:10:22 EST 9zmVYLXB No.174162 Reply
Have you tried cleaning the place? Repainting the walls? If you can't do it just open the windows a lot.
Man just because the apartment smells like shit there's no actual smoke in the air. So its not like you're getting cancer now. Your skin problems aren't caused by the smell. Bedbugs are far more likely.

How to roll any size perfect cigarette in less than one minute.

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- Sat, 21 Apr 2018 04:26:29 EST vkidC5j7 No.173914
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A How Too
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Oliver Hizzlefield - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:51:29 EST /8CV33A1 No.174135 Reply
If anyone has this issue with rolling I kinda got something figured out. I have a really hard time tucking the front piece under the back piece using my thumbs. So what I started doing, when I've prepared it for the final tuck/roll move, is reversing my hands so that my index fingers are on the roll where you would normally have your thumbs and my thumbs are underneath the cigarette. Tuck with your index fingers and roll up with your thumbs. It feels so natural to me compared to the typical method. I can get them very tight and packed.
Ernest Sollybune - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 18:53:22 EST 5ADgq/RH No.174141 Reply

Your problem might be that you are forcing the tuck. Once the cigarette is at the right consistency, the paper should just slide right around it.

Have you ever try indonesian's cigarette?

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- Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:29:57 EST EdEtFWQn No.174109
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Does anyone of you ever try it?

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Nigel Mogglewell - Tue, 02 Oct 2018 07:56:19 EST PqsZnq9E No.174121 Reply
I tried Djarum Blacks a few times a while ago. Probably my favorite thing to smoke looking back. I wonder if they are even still sold here since in Ontario menthols are banned now.
Archie Bunspear - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:56:47 EST 7gkRIzLF No.174148 Reply
Kretek w fishscale coke
Wesley Pinderhood - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:30 EST rI9e/SIX No.174149 Reply
I have not. What makes Indonesian cigarettes special?

swisher sweets little cigars

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- Sat, 23 Jun 2018 01:33:05 EST shNi3ouW No.173980
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anyone ever smoke these? i want to pick some up but I don't know if I should inhale or not. I know on cigars they say don't, but these are small and have a filter so idk what to do.
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Shitting Dartwell - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 02:47:02 EST SZtMaaG2 No.174125 Reply
this, its ghetto but people do it. instead of a swisher buy a black and mild cream or wine
Shitting Dartwell - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 02:50:54 EST SZtMaaG2 No.174126 Reply
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oh shit, wait those are the poorman cigs, i can only vouch for remmingtons and chocolate, vanilla, or cherry
Archie Mannerwane - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:50:36 EST SFrm/AK4 No.174147 Reply
Swishers always taste really dry to me, idk why. If i'm going to buy cheap cigars I'll get a black and mild

Hipster Genetics

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- Wed, 04 May 2016 23:44:50 EST gZfcHylA No.171604
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I've been cursed with hipster genetics and seem to prefer snuff tobacco to any other form. The burn in the nose, the stay of the aroma, the history of it - everything. Just got an order in, picked up Fribourg and Treyer's Seville, Wilson & Co. Best SP, Gawith and Hoggarth's Spartan, and Molens Peppermint.

My favourite has to be the Molens, followed closely by McCrystal's Medicated Mint & Wilson's Best SP.

Pretty fucking obscure, anyone else here snuff?
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Angus Bonderdale - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:17:01 EST yI1miAss No.173827 Reply
For non-white, I really like the heavy English snuffs. Sam Gawith is a particular favorite, especially their London Brown. I wish I could still get it in bulk. The Viking line is good too, especially Viking Dark, though it is quite harsh due to the heavy Virginia presence. For an oddball snuff, Wilsons of Sharrow Royal George is a great one. As for the famous Fribourg & Treyer, nothing they do is as special as the Santo Domingo. For SP, I really like J&H SP no1, but it is harder to find for me now. For menthol, Hedges L260 is simply without peer. I do not care for schmalzers. For a ghee snuff, Dholakia Black has been heavenly, but it is very uneven and I did not like the batch I got a couple of years ago so I haven't tried since. I'm not a big toast guy - the whites satisfy that craving for me. Though you can't go wrong with Sam G's Irish D, it is very sweet. Do not neglect the south african snuffs. NTSU and babaton blue are my favs of this class.
Martha Fankinwut - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:38:27 EST rI9e/SIX No.174134 Reply
Just bought long-term supplies of my favourite tobacco snuffs after trying a few different kinds.

Wilsons of Sharrow Best SP 4x medium tins
McCrystal's Original and Genuine, 1x Large tin
2x 10g bottles of Rustica snuff, or Rape, from South America, scented with lovely chacruna. Absolutely love the stuff.

Have a bunch of Toque Rustica left... Acquired taste, taste acquired.
Still have to try to find an Indian White Snuff when money allows.

Have a sample of Oden Double Mint White Snus, want to see what the hype is about with all the "White" swedish Snus types. Have to buy some clean tobacco for all the deadly tastes for American cigarettes and Chew I'd like to try before I die.

Congratulations, I played myself

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- Fri, 05 Oct 2018 21:03:49 EST z24edMbd No.174136
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>"hey let's mix it up and get camel blues instead of menthols"

Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:18:56 EST ofAKRBuh No.174137 Reply
I don't understand why these are so popular.
I'm also surprised that it seems like the lights/golds/blues of cigarettes seem to be the most popular.
Bart fart - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:28:26 EST azP5PqTk No.174143 Reply
The real camel cigs are not bad. Camel blues however were very disappointing even when i was a total noob smoker i could not get a good throat hit off it.

Nicotine alone and getting it on

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- Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:41:19 EST PoRmfjPJ No.173886
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I know cigarettes cause atherosclerosis which can permanently shrink your erect member, and I know nicotine is a vasoconstrictor that can temporarily shrink it/make it hard to get it up, but can nicotine alone, no smoke, permanently shorten my erect member/permanently make it hard to get it up like other stimulants such as vyvanse or are the effects just temporary?
Priscilla Fanforth - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:19:51 EST ckuKGZ8t No.174108 Reply
If u really fear that dude, than find someone else cuz if u know you kno
Samuel Grandbury - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:11:56 EST Z6gexajy No.174112 Reply
nicotine on it's own has the same effect, but I doubt it's permanent damage, you'd be surprised how much shit can be undone with absence of drugs that caused it and proper medication or treatment in general
Martha Fankinwut - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:31:23 EST rI9e/SIX No.174133 Reply
Unless your smoking is decreasing your oxygen intake, the effects of vasoconstriction should wear off, fortunately. Give it a month before you can better expect your part to do its part.

Trouble sleeping

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- Sun, 23 Sep 2018 09:02:09 EST ACSyRKdm No.174113
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I'm on an MAOI and vaping I figured here is the better choice.

I have chronic insomnia I take melatonin for pretty well, but when I vape I end up going to sleep at like 3-4AM, and if I have even one drink and it can screw over my ability to sleep. I assume it's just stimulant effects and maoi because I'll chain-vape as the day goes on and even two drinks 5 hours before bed will screw me up that night.

I thought this morning to try diphenhydramine, since it has anticholinergic effects. Any ideas other than to stop vaping?
Buttchugejuice - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:47:41 EST Jfn9Yjuf No.174118 Reply
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Literally nicotine releases more than choline. It causes adrenaline and noradrenaline to be released so really stopping vaping is the only way to stop getting energy and lack of appetite. I personally just recently switched my addarall to dextroamphetamine to avoid too much adrenaline and noradrenaline as I already have an eating problem. Maybe since i take amphetamines the stimulation from nicotine is rather laughable in comparison so maybe that's a cure for it XD
Buttchugejuice - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:50:52 EST Jfn9Yjuf No.174119 Reply
Look up Nessbits Paradox maybe being too high will make you drowsy. From what I've gathered online you literally cant die from vaping because you get sick far before the ld50. If you have a heart condition I would possibly avoid nesbits paradox highs
SpeedDreamin' - Wed, 03 Oct 2018 09:23:00 EST rI9e/SIX No.174129 Reply
Are you drinking caffeinated beverages?
That may be it.
Otherwise, what do you fill your time with while vaping? It's possible you're still too interested in doing it than sleeping, deep down in your brain.

Nicotine vaped is not as wakeful as chainsmoked cigarettes once you have a tolerance.

That's partially why truckers are seen smoking cigarettes so often.
Good luck getting to bed. Talk to your doctor, ask about pregabalin for sleep.

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