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The Star Wars Battlefront 2 shitstorm by Tommy Vercetti - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 00:41:22 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Not sure if anyone has been following this but this is fucking hilarious.

Basically Battlefront fans are livid at EA right now due to the games absolutely scummy progression and unlock system in the game.

All heroes are locked at the start of the game. That is both for standard and deluxe edition owners. It takes a whopping 60,000 credits to unlock a single hero. Problem is that the amount of credits you earn per match is absolutely pitiful. Someone did the math and to get 60,000 credits you would need to play the game for at least 40 hours to unlock a single hero. That is of course if you get the maximum amount of credits that you can earn in single match.

But hey, EA has the solution to your problems. You can simply buy the heroes if you dont want to grind for them.... FOR THIRTY FUCKING DOLLARS A PIECE.

The Battlefront 2 Subreddit has been in an uproar all weekend over it and rightfully so. News about EA's scummy business practices has made their way to news outlets and the fire started rising.

Then... EA shot themselves in the foot. They decided to respond to all the controversy and give the most bullshit PR answer possible saying that gamers will "have a great sense of pride and accomplishment" when they unlock their first hero. Fans were having none of this whatsoever and started downvoting the comment.

Congrats EA, you now have the most downvoted comment in circlejerk history at over 47,000 downvotes and counting.

tl;dr EA are filthy, greedy, Jews and gamers have had enough

Here was their laughable statement.


>The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

>As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking at average per-player credit earn rates on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable via gameplay.

>We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on circlejerk, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.

>Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can.
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Sgt. Cortez - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 00:52:05 EST ID:BQlJ5yk0 No.710067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710066
Anyone dumb enough to buy EA games in 2017 deserves everything they get. I don't see how anyone can still be outraged or surprised by the depths of their scumfuckery when shit like this has been standard operation procedure for the better part of a decade. Cry me a river you dumb faggots, you knew what you were signing up for when you bought another shitty EA game, and if you're going to keep repeating the same mistake year after year you can't expect the rest of us to do anything but point and laugh.
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Porky Minch - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:05:50 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can't wait for when this looks like sunny days. 2K has announced they will not be making any more games without microtransactions and that they have many new ideas for nickle and diming people with wonderful newspeak that'd make Orwell hurl if he was alive to hear it.


But no, keep telling me how Woman and SJWs are the ones wrecking the game industry.
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Scott Shelby - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:07:32 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.710069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The community manager also drunkenly tweeted that people armchair developers for the outcry lol
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Tommy Vercetti - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:12:53 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol
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Dylan Morton - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:55:50 EST ID:SQa9t6B/ No.710072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710067
Star Wars fans will buy anything. Phantom Menace grossed a cool billion.
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Princess Zelda - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:02:51 EST ID:5jYSFPUj No.710073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That would make sense...if you didn't have to buy them to begin with, and you DIDNT FUCKING CHARGE 30 DOLLARS FOR ONE. IIRC Battlefront 2 (the original one) heroes unlocked for the best players on the team (or something like that). That's accomplishment. Not grinding out fucking coins.
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Yoshimitsu - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:07:55 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710072
>mfw this isn't a joke
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Minsc - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:27:34 EST ID:Hvtlvt4g No.710077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>a core gameplay feature is now removed and sold back to you at 30 dollars a piece
lmao. EA is raising the bar for the whole industry. Take note ubisoft, THIS is how you fuck people.
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Tommy Vercetti - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 04:49:39 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710077
The post now has 131,000 downvotes and its still going down

For comparison. The previous record for most downvotes was 23,000 by a guy who literally asked to be downvoted. The one before that was some response by Jill Stein that got like 15,000
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Franziska Von Karma - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 04:54:19 EST ID:jvX64oZL No.710085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All the same, to be outraged over it? Come on.

Do people know they don't have to buy the game? Looks like a bad game, maybe because of this feature. Maybe don't buy a game you don't want to play. Maybe if it doesn't sell they won't implement features that killed their profits.

But you know, people will probably buy it and pay for the unlocks which means those bitching are a loud, vocal minority.
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Waluigi - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 05:07:19 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.710086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710085
>Do people know they don't have to buy the game?

Except a lot of people do because the core game is a lot of fun. Except now they suddenly find out a really cool feature is locked behind either $30 or 40 hours of playtime.

It's like having to pay 50% extra just to see the final 15 minutes of that great movie you've been looking forward to seeing.
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Cortana - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 05:12:37 EST ID:Y7ZpE6+9 No.710087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710066
The most surprising thing about this is people keep buying EA games. They've not sold anything actually worth the asking price for years.
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Yuri - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 05:34:14 EST ID:m7HcOeuR No.710088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710086
>Except a lot of people do
No, no one HAS to buy any game no matter how fun it is
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Capt. Falcon - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 05:58:06 EST ID:cYqr3fKg No.710090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Crazy how Titanfall 2 was published by EA but had absolutely no pay to win features, everything was unlocked by credits generously given in game, all guns cost the same to buy, no way of spending real money on anything but cosmetics, all DLC maps, modes and the new titan all free.

Then you have this. Fuck EA dice, it's a shame that Titanfall is published by them because I will absolutely buy Titanfall 3 if it follows the same dlc philosophy as 2. Boycott of the rest though, but you gotta make exceptions for favourite games.
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Waluigi - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 06:16:44 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.710091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710088
poor phrasing I guess, but you know what I mean, the point still stands. People want to buy the game, they're upset because a cool part of it is locked behind a money/time wall.

Hell we probably wouldn't be talking about it if it was a few bucks, but $30 for a single character is just bafflingly greedy and delusional. The sad part is that many people will buy it anyway.
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Rikimaru - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:43:37 EST ID:VEln15qh No.710094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710088
People played Battlefront 1, they've seen ads showing these cool features, they expect a full game containing those features.
To buy the game, and then find out you'd either have to put in several work-weeks worth of grinding or pay hundreds more to get the rest of the game is a bait-and-switch.

If an increasing portion of car-manufacturers started charging 10K to have the radiator, half the fuel injectors, and power steering enabled, to tell someone "there's nothing wrong with these business practices, just don't buy those cars, I mean you can still drive it without all those extras" would be absurd.
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Porky Minch - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 08:30:00 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710090
Yeah, and EA sabotaged it's launch to force Respawn to sell to them.
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JC Denton - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 08:52:07 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is why piracy is a thing
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Krystal - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:26:58 EST ID:6fyePEPR No.710097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710073

It still becomes useable to you first when you're doing the best in the game. So the top players get first shot at spawning as heroes.

I can't believe it's gonna take 40 hours to unlock them. I hope someone didn't incorporate other factors and it takes less time, because the game is really fun and utterly gorgeous in 4K
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Princess Zelda - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:34:23 EST ID:5jYSFPUj No.710098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710097
What I was trying to say was that you didn't have to unlock them to begin with, it was just that you be good then "X has entered the battlefield" and you knew shit was on because you got a chance to spawn as a hero, not unlock THEN try to be best on team so you have a chance of using them.
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Barret Wallace - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:47:24 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.710099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710095
This. I don't have high hopes for Titanfall 3 anymore unfortunately.

Also, this whole thing just sucks. I'm not outraged at stuff like this anymore, which probably says a lot by itself (getting too used to it being the norm even if this is taking it to a new level). Just kinda makes me sad at this point, especially when reminiscing how many dozens of hours of fun I had as a kid with the real Battlefront 2, not to mention with older DICE games like Battlefield 2.
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Krystal - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 12:34:45 EST ID:6fyePEPR No.710100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710098

Yeah I saw what you said...I'm not arguing with you. I was just letting you know that it's still the best on team that get first dibs on a per-match basis. Which is a good feature, better than EA battlefront 1s method where it's a drop that spawns somewhere on the map.

Hopefully they realize this is ridiculous. But it will be kinda cool since I have no life that I could unlock a bad ass hero long before anyone else and feel special for a while.
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Tommy Vercetti - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:02:07 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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EA standing strong
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Four - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 14:51:11 EST ID:a7FGzM59 No.710104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710085
I only Bought SIms4 cause i don't really have any other option. I don't know why nobody ever tried to make one. Plus Sims4 got great mod Support, nothing like Skyrim but you can satisfy all your perverted desires in the game. I would've bought SimCity 4 if there wasn't any better city builder games out there. I don't own any other EA game beside TitanFall2 and i think that was worth it.
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Goemon - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:42:21 EST ID:ZF+PQgNw No.710105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710094
Terrible analogy as you can still play the game fine without heroes at all. All those things are required for you to drive a car safely. lol Pretty much people angry they don't get to play their digital dolls right away without having to pay money.
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Yoshi - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:50:49 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710105
those digital dolls were an essential reason why people cared about this particular game, and they were essential to making the game stand out from the beginning. I didn't even play the ps2 games or plan to play this one, but even I can see that. it was a very basic element of the franchise.

shooting down some guy's poorly conceived analogy doesn't really change that. you talk like some sort of corporate stooge. "lol stop whining and eat your shit".
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Porky Minch - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:12:02 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710105
Fucking hilarious. "How dare they expect to be able to play with the game they payed for without stumping up more cash!"

Fucking AAA shills are the dumbest whales on earth.
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JC Denton - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:10:57 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710105
>why would you be mad you can't play as Star Wars characters in a Star Wars game lol
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Guybrush Threepwood - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 23:39:25 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh man, the ride never ends

>Arcade mode has a timer "you can earn more credits in 14 hours. Pay to reset timer" IN A FUCKING $60 AAA GAME

>Story Mode is blatant false advertising and bait and switch. They advertised that you would play as the Empire trying to pick up the pieces after ROTJ. Hey we get to play the bad guys right? LOL NOPE, cliche as fuck and the main character, Iden, turns on the Empire and joins the good guys.

>amount of credits earned from completing Story Mode reduced from 25,000 to 5,000. THAT WILL TEACH YOU GAMERS TO NOT DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD!

>Achievements that require you to have all heroes unlocked

>There is a heroes vs. heroes mode where its possible to not being able to play because you dont have enough heroes unlocked. For instance, If you only have Vader, Luke and Iden unlocked, and your teammates pick them, you are fucked. No fun for you, pay up nigga!
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Leon Kennedy - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 23:48:12 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710119
As scummy as Activision is, at least there's been subtly and guile with their shit. EA is like a fucking caveman smashing shit with a club.
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Lei Wulong - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:21:19 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710119
I wouldn't even expect horrid shit like that from f2p games
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Four - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:05:35 EST ID:xRK/D+pC No.710123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>We reduced the amount of credits by 75% for characters but the lootbox pay 2 win system stays. Also we love you guys! Thanks for the feedback

I bet this is what it feels like to be in an abusive relationship. They try to push you as hard as they can to see what they can get away with, when you finally start fighting back they tell you they care about you and give you a tiny bit of freedom that was righly yours to begin with only to take it back from you the next time.
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honk - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:52:59 EST ID:W51O2zS3 No.710124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710120
You're welcome.
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Kyle Hyde - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:14:17 EST ID:xceHt6fN No.710139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710085
>Do people know they don't have to buy the game?
This game sits at the crossroads between obsessive Star Wars fanboys that have to buy anything with the label on it, mainstream consumerists who have to buy the hot new thing to fill the void in their lives, and self-identified "gamers" who have to buy anything that comes out of the industry and defend even its shadiest practices against all criticism.

So for a lot of people, no, not throwing their money at this thing was never an option for them. Sadly.
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Guybrush Threepwood - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:20:16 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710139

There are people who are now buying the game because they got what they wanted, which was the hero cost reduced.

There are some who are refusing to buy the game until loot boxes are removed, which will probably never happen.
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Abel - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:02:31 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.circlejerk.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7ctj17/ea_has_removed_the_refund_button_from_their/

It keeps getting worse
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Balrog - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:19:17 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710142
>refund button removed
>>710119
>amount of credits earned from completing Story Mode reduced from 25,000 to 5,000.
>you can earn more credits in 14 hours. Pay to reset timer

ahahaha oh man this is insane. I can't wait to see what they do next.

>>710139
hopefully this is a learning experience for both shady developers and overzealous customers. though it probably wont be. for the time being we've got a funny ass shitshow to watch. Though I suppose I'd be actually annoyed if this happened to a franchise I cared about.
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Bonks - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:22:01 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.710146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710142
my god thats shameful as fuck
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Gannon - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:32:42 EST ID:ZF+PQgNw No.710148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710108
>>710107

>Someone doesn't agree with my manchild opinion
>Must be a shill

K
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Balrog - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:39:17 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710148
>maybe if I call them manchildren they'll stop calling me on my bullshit
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Gannon - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:45:44 EST ID:ZF+PQgNw No.710151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710150
Which part of my statement was bullshit? That they're digital dolls Which they are[/%[ or that people are mad about having to pay money for it [%]Which they are? lol
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Balrog - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:49:51 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710151
every character is a "digital doll". I already told you having actual star wars characters in this game is the whole point of the franchise. it's like selling a mario game where you play as a generic plumber instead of mario and you pay 30 bucks to play as him. it's bullshit, defending this practice is bulshit, and you know this. and if you don't want people to call you a shill maybe you shouldn't talk exactly like one.
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Yojimbo - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:58:37 EST ID:0lHbSUI9 No.710153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710068
The gaming industry was in shit since DLC was created.
Now we have ugly whores like Anita Sarkisian (and many others) who're making tons of money just by acting like an victims, and bringing woman rights into gaming, instead of watching on how many brainless women are working in the porn industry...
We have SJW and LGTB junk communities that trying way to hard to push their agenda.

But in the past there wasn't any shit like this, gaming was about having fun.
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Abel - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:19:51 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710153
>gaming was about having fun
It got popular. What gets popular dies.
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Pyrrha Alexandra - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:40:39 EST ID:muBnRfx8 No.710159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710151
Are you serious?

They put a 40 hour gate (in which one must forego other account progression) on content they advertised as being available.

Here's a fact: EA and the other major publishers are up about 40% profits this year
Here's another fact: EA and the other major publishers are shitting all over a long-established value proposition that gaming consumers have been accustomed to.

They're making MORE money and they're also squeezing as hard as possible for more money.
They literally took a free-to-play model and plopped it on top of a full price AAA title. This is unprecendented. They're trying to have their cake and fuck it too.
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Pyrrha Alexandra - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:42:11 EST ID:muBnRfx8 No.710160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710159
Oh also: This kind of shit is what is going to bring the goddamn gambling commission down upon video games.

EA is flying too close to the goddamn sun.
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Kyle Katarn - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:43:32 EST ID:e1C7/hko No.710161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So how the fuck do I unlock vader? I just want to force teabag fools after working all fucking day
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Voldo - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:45:53 EST ID:yApq2r/Z No.710162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710160
That wont happen because big gaming companies are already in the pockets of the ESRB. There was a big push to get games with loot boxes tagged with "simulated gambling" by the ESRB and the ESRB said "nah, nigga, my pockets are phat helping all these companies screw people over"
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Captain Price - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:48:19 EST ID:NZRcklhK No.710163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710153
Are you still mad there's a female? Wtf dude the issue is the company's greed. What does that have to do with your obsession with the Jewish primcess?
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Voldo - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:54:39 EST ID:yApq2r/Z No.710166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The story mode makes no fucking sense whatsoever

>There is planet who is completely loyal to the Empire.

>Iden grew up on this planet

>The Empire decides to destroy the planet to show the galaxy their superiority

>Iden turns on the Empire because of this

What kind of absolutely lazy fucking writing is this? And this story is supposed to be canon? This would be like if the United States nuked Florida to show North Korea our superior firepower.
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Pyrrha Alexandra - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:07:33 EST ID:muBnRfx8 No.710169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710162
The U.S. also doesn't have a national gambling commission.
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Pyrrha Alexandra - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:08:30 EST ID:muBnRfx8 No.710170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710163
>Jewish primcess
Armenian princess.
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Yojimbo - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:11:01 EST ID:0lHbSUI9 No.710171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710170
I have many Armenian friends who can't fucking stand her.
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Jak - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:47:51 EST ID:0z+RVgZ0 No.710177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710153
Fuck off back to the future, Yojimbo. No one likes you faggot. Fucking kill yourself.
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Leon Kennedy - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:54:08 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yep, and right on time, the dumbest among us start braying about "SJWs" and "Sarkeesian" giving full pass to predatory companies, or just straight up telling people to enjoy their shit.

God, I really use to like gaming, I did.
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Lei Wulong - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:58:25 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710178
Seriously though. The worst are the ones who bitch and moan about the fact that people are complaining..
And it's with everything nowadays. Anything that warrants legitimate criticism, you have leagues of people calling people whiners for having any kind of standards in the media they consume. I'm chalking it up to generic internet contrarians, but it surely does have to do with people having shit taste and lacking critical thinking capacity.
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Geralt - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:12:40 EST ID:aZTWqwyy No.710180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710163
No I'm mad there's a marxist
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Yojimbo - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:33:31 EST ID:0lHbSUI9 No.710181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710177
Cry more, homo.
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Balrog - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:50:57 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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god damn it who cloned yojimbo?
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Yojimbo - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:36:17 EST ID:0lHbSUI9 No.710188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710185
Nice to see you missed me, I fucking missed you to, fags.
Give me a huge!
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Death Adder - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:46:49 EST ID:eUVoGiHt No.710190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment. The unlocks are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of selecting initial values based upon data from the Open Beta, Battlefront 2 will go over a typical gamers head. There's also EA's other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch, which are deftly woven into this game development- the game's philosophy draws heavily from average per-player credit earn rates, for instance. The gamers understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate that we'll be making constant adjustments, to realise that it's not just fun- they say something deep about GAMES. As a consequence people who dislike EA truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, that we ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Mat Everett's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, i DO have a Mass Effect tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for appreciative gamers' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
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Lord Gwyn - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:08:01 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710188
you better be the real yojimbo lol
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:41:57 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.710199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710191
The real one died some years ago, from DXM OD.
The curse just lives on
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Professor Layton - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:06:46 EST ID:/XKFYVZU No.710201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710191
yojimbo may have had his faults and his haters but at least he didnt post like this shitbag using his name
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Vic Viper - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 02:00:33 EST ID:BQlJ5yk0 No.710203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710190
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King Dodongo - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 02:45:01 EST ID:Ymt6Zgr9 No.710204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710201
Yojimbo was always a shitbag
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Sheik - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 02:45:26 EST ID:cD+qQIk0 No.710205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710166

>What kind of absolutely lazy fucking writing is this?

who cares; we already got their money!
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Yojimbo - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 02:50:00 EST ID:ZS1Rv8J5 No.710206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710201
Eat my shit

>>710204
Correct
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Sheik - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 02:56:13 EST ID:cD+qQIk0 No.710207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710206

no trip not yojimbo
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Death Adder - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:07:00 EST ID:eUVoGiHt No.710208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710206
Fuck off scum. You're like that little shit in the Italian job who gets what everyone else said they wanted because he has no originality.
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Yojimbo - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:10:58 EST ID:ZS1Rv8J5 No.710209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710208
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Kefka - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:49:44 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710166
Its even worse, because the Empire did it once, and it completely backfired on them. It'd be like if the Empire nuked Florida to show its firepower, after it already nuked Washington and threw the nation into civil war.
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Ebisumaru - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:58:03 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can we forget about wannabe trips and go back to shitting on EA
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Sophitia Alexandra - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:35:38 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.710222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710153

What the fuck does Anita have to do with corporate greed lol

You're a sad lil man, and you're not Yojimbo
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Yojimbo - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:40:11 EST ID:ZS1Rv8J5 No.710224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710222
She bringed the feminism bullshit into the gaming industry, isn't that enough to hate her?
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Lucy Stillman - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:46:23 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.710226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The only non-indie game in the last few months I've heard about coming out that didn't have a slew of pay extra for x shit in it was Wolfenstien.
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Lucy Stillman - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:51:12 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.710227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710224
Do you honestly think there was not a single feminist involved in the development of games or offering a feminist perspective on games before 2012?
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Soma Cruz - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:31:03 EST ID:sHudmuaz No.710228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710227
Yeah it's kinda stupid thinking that Anita introduced feminism to gaming, developer-wise or into the games themselves that sort of stuff was always going on in some shape or form, be it beneficial or not. You can make an argument that Anita and EA have the entire the evils of greed and captialism theme going on whereas the latter is completely blatant in their goals the former we'll never figure out whether it was due to mere incompetence or malice, but the result is the same--it's easy for people to let their emotions and impulses control them and give away money and as long as those people exist, stuff like this will keep happening or at the very least they'll try until it backfires.
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Sophitia Alexandra - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:01:02 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.710229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710224

This is about EA and their scummy business practices you dweeb. And like a useful idiot, you're doing them a favor by drawing attention away from their bad behavior and making it all about the meanie girls who call u names. STFU.
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Soma Cruz - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:24:51 EST ID:sHudmuaz No.710230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710229
what if their scummy business practices involves exploiting victims of harrasment in a half-assed attempt to deflect from their own scummy business practices I don't think that's actually happening it's just a bunch of idiots yelling at each other but can you really put it past EA at this point?
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Yojimbo - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:54:51 EST ID:ZS1Rv8J5 No.710235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710229
EA was shitty since ps3 and xbox360 generation, so it's not a big surprise for me.
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Four - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:02:25 EST ID:yjTHupbK No.710237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710235
EA has been shitty way before that. They used to be the cool cats of the videogame industry, now they're company composed of vampires and ghouls.
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Soma Cruz - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:35:51 EST ID:sHudmuaz No.710242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

tl;dr the dude who said he got death threats may not have worked at EA to begin with. wtf
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Lord Gwyn - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:44:40 EST ID:YeT76UhM No.710243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710242
that's so weird, why would he want to pretend to be an EA employee on twitter?
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Soki - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:59:04 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.710244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710243
$$$ Agent saboteur to displace negative PR in favor of a victim-oriented position which people tend to shy towards regardless of the other things.

It's part of a PR term called "making the outrage outdated," they minorly tweak something that everyone then heralds as them listening and fixing things when the underlying issue is still rampant and festering beneath the facade.
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Soki - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:08:20 EST ID:cMUMHMz+ No.710246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710242
>cvcktaku
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Jack Carver - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:41:29 EST ID:yApq2r/Z No.710247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710243
To change the narrative from "gamers outraged over microtransactions" to "disgusting, gamergaters send death threats to EA over a videogame"
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Kefka - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:58:23 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710247
EA's MO. Remember how every criticism of ME 3 was "homophobia"?
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The Vault Dweller - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:13:30 EST ID:0z+RVgZ0 No.710258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710243
Freelance QA tester really wishes he worked for EA. Typical American corporate Stockholm syndrome.
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Calypso - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:08:43 EST ID:1mIY6N5+ No.710262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I heard it only takes 10 hours of grinding to get a hero now. That's not bad at all.
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Kung Lao - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:27:51 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710247
This is quickly becoming an MO for many organizations.

The new Ghostbusters used this same tactic to dismiss criticism, and so did Star Trek Discovery.

Use a few twitter trolls to change the discussion to horrible people saying/doing horrible things.
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not dayman - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:40:55 EST ID:VwjaDdh4 No.710270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710066
>FOR THIRTY FUCKING DOLLARS A PIECE.
Now I can see why EAs post was the most down voted in Reddits history, shiiiiiit man am I gonna have to mortgage my house and become a Whore just to afford Vader?
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The Vault Dweller - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:31:06 EST ID:0z+RVgZ0 No.710272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710263
I hear STD is actually good, and its all just retarded the future virgins being mad about nothing.
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LeChuck - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:44:11 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.710274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710272
Virginia is the most interesting games I've played all year, but if you listen to that certain corner of the internet it's shit because the two main characters are black women.
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Boogerman - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:07:23 EST ID:m7HcOeuR No.710276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710272

lol no STD fucking sucks and I'm a die hard Trek fan
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Manny Calavera - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:08:16 EST ID:XAua692f No.710277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this still is still just battlefield 1 with star wars skins

>prove me wrong

I don't buy games anymore because of this shit I started reading books instead, just shoot me now
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Kid Ying - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:12:07 EST ID:asjeo4n0 No.710279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710244
holy shit that pic is funny!
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Squall Leonhart - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:57:52 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.710281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710274
No, it's shit because it's a walking simulator with two main characters that are black women.
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Jill Ominous - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:45:07 EST ID:VKCkZNXB No.710284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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People are buying AAA-shit in 2017?

Not surprised.

People who really expected this CoD-reskin with a higher budget and "return to war-zone"-invisible-death-zones
wouldn't be a total ripp-off
must get their brains checked.
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Four - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:04:22 EST ID:M1B1JTm6 No.710288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710281
Whats wrong with having a black woman as a main character?
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Enoch - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 03:02:30 EST ID:Rp853oKe No.710289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710284
it's entertaining because it's a new tier of awfulness we haven't seen yet, though it's in line with things they've done before. and obviously nobody in this thread is really gonna buy the game it's just for gawking at the situation. at least I hope none of you paid money for this.

>>710272
I haven't seen it yet but if it IS bad it's probably bad for completely different reasons than they claim it to be. if you asked those people why it rains they'd say it's because the jews did it.
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Kung Lao - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 03:17:52 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710289
lol, it's a shitty game of thrones knock off. They tried to apply the serialized formula that is very successful with lots of shows, and make it huge budget and super drama with no substance and expected fans not to have complaints. You should try knowing what you're talking about. Every criticism I've read on line is on point. You're basically furthering the exact point that was made earlier, artard. >>710263
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Squall Leonhart - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 03:44:56 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.710291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710288
Nothing, the black woman part was a joke, anon. I thought it was funny that it's even a thing to bring up at all as to why it's bad, when the real reason it's bad is because it is a walking simulator. At least, the internet doesn't take kindly to those.
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Enoch - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 03:58:47 EST ID:Rp853oKe No.710292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710290
are you responding to the right post, or confusing me with another poster in this thread? I don't remember making the point you linked to, and I never made any assumptions about the show beyond that the future probably has some dumbass opinions on it that aren't relevant to why it's bad. you got really confrontational over nothing what's up with that?
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Kung Lao - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:44:10 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710292
No you're just not understanding my point which was that lots of companies nowadays are using attack at character to dismiss valid criticisms.
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General Martok - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:36:39 EST ID:rMKOJURY No.710309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710272
>STD is actually good
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:40:41 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710272
Star Trek Discovery is just that; an STD on the genitals of an illustrious franchise. The Orville is the antibiotic treatment that cures the itch, so to speak.

Back on topic, apprently the Belgian Gambling Comission is going to start investigating EA for it's shady practices concerning Lootboxfront 2. Oerwatch is also getting caught in the firing line too.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/16/battlefront-ii-belgium-gambling-investigation/
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Quistis Trepe - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:42:43 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710318
And so it begins. Faster then I though, I must say.
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Pinky - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:36:41 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.710323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710318
>Overwatch is also getting caught in the firing line too.
Why? Overwatch's lootboxes only contain cosmetics.
Development costs money, hats are preferable to increased initial costs or a subscription model.
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Quistis Trepe - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:05:58 EST ID:k7Zyo6ll No.710326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710323
Still gambling Blizzard fanboy.
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Sam Fisher - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:22:10 EST ID:y8xxn4On No.710327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710323
Blizzard have always skirted on the edge of legitimacy. WOW never had pay to win but it had a lot of "recruit a friend" schemes that people definitely used by themselves to level their own characters. Which is funny because if you're not into raiding and pvp but care enough to pay loads of money to skip leveling then er... what?
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:26:10 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710323
>Player A gets fancy new cosmetic item
>Player A brags to Player B about how this new item is the tits and they are the best for getting it
>Player B is overcome with jealousy
>Overwatch offers chace to gamble for the chance of receiving the same fancy new cosmetic item Player A got
>Player B sinks a shitton of cash into the gambling system for the chance to acquire said cosmetic item
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Sam Fisher - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:32:05 EST ID:y8xxn4On No.710329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710328
It's not the same as pay to win. It is a bit shitty but I think when you buy a game and then have to pay additional money to gamble for a chance to be competitive at it, that's fucked up.
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Jill Valentine - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:40:12 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710328
Not the same thing. Not to mention F2P games have to make their money somewhere.
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:41:18 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710328
Psychological manipulation for financial profit is psychological manipulation for financial profit, no matter which way you slice it dude
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:42:18 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710329
meant to reply to this guy

nbdp
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Astaroth - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:43:15 EST ID:2kRlL/4+ No.710334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710318
This is an atomic dumpster fire at this point XD

I find those Europeans reasoning bordering a bit on liberal feel goodery with the whole "they might feel social pressure" thing

Buuuuuuut I want EA to get buttfucked as hard as possible so they stop this so that I can have cheaper games
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:44:20 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710331
also, Overwatch isn't F2P

nbtp
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Cage Midwell - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:56:52 EST ID:huUe7tzx No.710336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710272
>>710289
>>710292
>I hear
>I haven't seen it yet

Oh, OK, so I guess you're ju...

>retarded virgins
>the jews did it
>dumbass opinions
>y u mad tho?

People are telling you you're being a faggot because you're calling every critic of the show retarded virgin neo-nazis with dumbass opinions and pretending that's a valid point, you dingus. And all this while you haven't even watched it. And that in response to the point that modern marketing techniques try to make out critics as vile human beings. You're proving Kung Lao's point, and I seriously hope you're just high or something, because it takes some real lack of awareness to act all indignified after the shit you said.

As for the show, that depends on your personal taste. Though, I think your taste is shit if you think it's good, because there's nothing really special about it. Worse, it's got the big ol' Trek name slapped onto the box, but doesn't resemble the old shows in the slightest. It's more like the JJTrek movies, which also did not resemble the old shows. In the landscape of modern TV, it's thoroughly mediocre. Same "dark & edgy" atmosphere and writing, same morally flexible main characters, same lack of any thought-provoking points. Comparing it to GoT is too generous, in my opinion, because GoT is a good product that interstitches its dark moments with moments of levity and humanity. It's balanced. For every Ramsay there's a Tyrion, so to speak. GoT is self-aware.

With STD, it's often that my expectations, that I unconsciously have while watching it, turn out to be better than what's on screen. In my opinion, it has bad writing, bad acting, and bad lighting. Not even kidding, the lighting is noticably bad. The main actress is the shittiest actor I've seen in any of the modern shows I've watched. She's grating to watch, she has zero on screen personality, and occasionally falls back in a thick American accent, despite the character being presented as Vulcan. STD feels like a cheap The Expanse knockoff, and I'd only recommend it to people who are looking for something like that.

And this is what Trek fans are pissed off about. I saw it coming a mile away, because I wasted all my optimism on JJTrek, so frankly I don't care all that much. I've already seen the show that I love, and I can recognize its traits in other products without needing that name on the box. But I certainly don't appreciate being called everything under the sun by the spineless marketing division of this shitshow, or the likes of you, because I have the gall to not gobble up anything with the Trek name on it. This has as much to do with Star Trek as the Spock Helmet.
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Pinky - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:02:03 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.710337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710328
I see nothing wrong here, Player B's willingness to pay shittons of cash doesn't detract from everyone he plays with who hasn't paid shittons of cash by giving him an advantage.
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Razputin Aquato - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:03:13 EST ID:WIXipuvJ No.710338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710336

Do you have the self awareness to see how hard you got trolled about Star Trek in a Star Wars thread?
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Cage Midwell - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:09:25 EST ID:huUe7tzx No.710339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710338
Only dumb mouthbreathers think there's supposed to be a rivalry between two wildly different properties that both happen to have the word "star" in the title. nb.
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:11:27 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710337
see
>>710332
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Razputin Aquato - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:24:40 EST ID:WIXipuvJ No.710341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710339
It's not about any rivalry it's that your rant is in a Star Wars thread on the video game board rather than somewhere else....Like a Star Trek board or something...

DOUBLE NB
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Kit Ballard - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:31:41 EST ID:PFvEU7v+ No.710342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710337
Stupid assholes like Player B are what make this artificial scarcity gambling shit economically viable, which means that the rest of us have to suffer this shit in our AAA games. Without people like Player B we could go back to the good old days of actually getting a finished product for our hard earned money. It absolutely detracts from the experience for the rest of us.
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Cage Midwell - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:37:24 EST ID:huUe7tzx No.710343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710341
That's not what you said.

Also, that kitten had a fatal neurological condition, which was what made it walk funny. Triple nb.
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Dagoth Ur - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:37:53 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.710344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Distractions, distractions everywhere.
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:39:09 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710342
Sadly, Player B will always exist due to human nature. And there will always be parasitic scum willing to exploit that for personal gain. The only thing that can be done is identify and call out the fuckers that do it, and either shame them for preying on them in the hopes that they will re-evaluate their shitty practices, or regulate so that it is not possible to prey upon and exploit them
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Pinky - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:50:28 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.710346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710345 >>710342
>Without people like Player B we could go back to the good old days of actually getting a finished product for our hard earned money. It absolutely detracts from the experience for the rest of us.
Why does player B having a hat detract from your experience? It's entirely cosmetic and not having one doesn't put you at a disadvantage.

Player B's hat funds the continued development of the game so we don't need paid expansions, subscription models, or higher upfront costs.

I understand that having player B pay more than other players might be unfair for player B, but that's his choice and since it's to my advantage, why wouldn't I support him being able to make such a choice?
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Gannondorf - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:15:29 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710346
Please just watch this video mate, it'll explain everything so much better and a lot more concisely than I ever could

https://youtu.be/pHSso2vufPM?t=10m13s
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Yojimbo - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:09:13 EST ID:YHBGQHlJ No.710358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One thing I can't understand, why do people keep supporting them?
Stop buying their products, so they finally will go to bankrupt.
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Kung Lao - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:14:09 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710358
They own battlefront
Star wars fans will buy anything
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Jill Valentine - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:16:44 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710358
>expecting normies to do something smart
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Yojimbo - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:25:31 EST ID:YHBGQHlJ No.710362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710359
Are they that blind that they can't see the EA logo on the box?
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Kung Lao - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:40:53 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710362
Average gamers aren't aware or do not care about specific publishers/developers horrible business practice. They really only care if they monumentally fuck up a game, like refund bad.
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Donkey Kong Jr. - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:42:16 EST ID:DtrZYZLP No.710369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710358
That doesn't really matter in the end. Someone in this thread has mentioned it already: They applied the pricing concept of a f2p game on a full price retail game so now ea only has to do what a small portion of their customer base wants because they represent a large portion of their revenue. And yes people with a lot of disposable income who at the same time have a lot of free time at their hands absolutely exist.
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Cammy - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:46:14 EST ID:uRB12+m6 No.710370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710359
>Star wars fans will buy anything

That's what shareholders and business scum were banking on. What they didn't expect was that all gamers like Star Wars, including those who don't like Battlefield/Battlefront and thus when they do something scummy enough to garner attention, they get equally enormous attention.

Why not just play it safe with a normal, already profitable product that looks and sounds fucking magic and will sate the 11 year old boy in all of us long enough to get us addicted to your stupid repetitive battlefield one clone.
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Sweet Tooth - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 20:40:00 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>EA turns off all in game purchases for BF2
Maybe the mass outrage worked.

https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/pre-launch-update?utm_campaign=swbf2_hd_na_ic_soco_fb_swbfii-prelaunchblog-fb&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&cid=42030&ts=1510882749935
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Darkstalker Kaathe - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 20:43:37 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.710374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710373
>for now

The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date, only after we’ve made changes to the game. We’ll share more details as we work through this.
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Cammy - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:49:04 EST ID:uRB12+m6 No.710379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Can I just say it's really fucked up that the quickest way to get to EA isn't through EA or even our government?

Our quickest way to get to EA, our most powerful voice is when we use it to push a sensationalized, fairly spurious caricature of what the problem is via Facebook and Twitter. We can only get at them through European politicians.

What the fuck?

Also Disney got themselves removed from the "Gambling" searches pretty goddamn quick.
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Darkstalker Kaathe - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:32:02 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.710381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710379
Yeah seriously. We know what they're capable of, they're just trying to bolster their launch purchases and it's a facade.

You make a great point though, and that Disney search thing shows you a portion of their pull online.
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G-Man - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:07:14 EST ID:eUVoGiHt No.710382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710338
They were not trolls, and you are missing the point, which is that there is a trend where anyone who voices criticism about products from sizable corporations is branded a racist or bigot. He was pissed that people were parroting views created/promoted by corporate shills, I.E >I hear STD is actually good, and its all just retarded the future virgins being mad about nothing.

>>710373
>purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date
That sad part is that there will be people out there who actually think that this isn't just an underhanded tactic to get people to buy the game before they shift gears back to ass fuck mode.
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Kerrigan - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:23 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got this game for free cause review code.

The best way to describe this would be like if EA cooked up the most beautiful t-bone steak ever. Its perfect. Then they decided to smear shit all over it and serve it to customers. Its a great game absolutely destroyed by this retarded card system which offers shit like increased aiming assist. Good lord.
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Sweet Tooth - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:06:07 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710383
>Increased aiming assist card

...All of my fucks...
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Shodan - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:38:58 EST ID:MaAA1jZ4 No.710387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710383

>increased aiming assist

That actually bothers me more than 40hrs to unlock a hero.
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Hong Yun-seong - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:43:50 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710373
Apparently the Dutch Government are now also getting in on the action:

"According to Dutch news outlet NU.nl, the Dutch Gambling Authority has now launched an investigation into whether games with loot boxes are games of chance."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-16-star-wars-battlefront-2-loot-boxes-investigated-by-belgian-gaming-commission

Don't be suckered in by the token gesture of temporarily removing micro-gambling either btw, they are doing this purely to cover thier own arses while investigations are concluded. No doubt some money is going to chnge hands very soon to make this all go away...
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Quistis Trepe - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:38:56 EST ID:VwjaDdh4 No.710393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710383
if I pay I could get
>increased aiming assists

or the possibility of something that I actually want
how is this not gambling???
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Boogerman - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:39:32 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.710395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710393
>how is this not gambling???


>"ESRB does not consider loot boxes to be gambling. While there’s an element of chance in these mechanics, the player is always guaranteed to receive in-game content (even if the player unfortunately receives something they don’t want). We think of it as a similar principle to collectible card games: Sometimes you’ll open a pack and get a brand new holographic card you’ve had your eye on for a while. But other times you’ll end up with a pack of cards you already have."

https://www.destructoid.com/loot-boxes-aren-t-considered-gambling-claims-esrb-466512.phtml

It's kind of a gray area really.
Then again the game is explicitly designed around essentially rolling the dice for a chance of getting in-game advantages against other players. Whereas in collectible card games rare cards don't automatically confer an advantage when playing.
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Claire Redfield - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:10:20 EST ID:LwyRcsev No.710397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710395
This is the biggest bullshit ever
Wtf seriously this is retarded
nb cause I'm never buying or playing this game but I'm still upset for all the people who bought the game without knowing this shit, but either way fuck everything
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Naija - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:39:34 EST ID:/Jlv+LZY No.710399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710388
I really hope lootboxes are cracked down on, they are gambling by definition. I'm sick of seeing the "but you get something no matter what" argument, if slot machines still gave you 10c back if you didn't match any lines, it would still be gambling... I play gacha games, pull rates are extremely bad, I've seen people spend thousands of dollars and still not receive the banner item. You're gonna tell me it's not gambling just because that person received some useless shit instead. Personally, in these games I play I'm f2p because I don't support bad business practices, and I work on trying to get developers to change their habits to a more consumer friendly model, by giving things like guaranteed pulls.
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Sweet Tooth - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 06:04:32 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710399
I don't see how they haven't cracked down already. Maybe it's just been under the radar but it HAS to be coming to their attention by now. The massive amounts of money going to gaming-gambling.
Idk, maybe since gaming is a huge industry, they give it a little leeway. But considering that it's using psychology to manipulate people who are often children, it will be looked at soon. I wonder if there's a change.org petition or something.

Actually there is, and this petition has 46k out of the 50k signatures that it requires. I know, petitions are dumb and ineffectual, but I'm signing this just out of principle. Something should be done.

https://www.change.org/p/entertainment-software-rating-board-esrb-make-esrb-declare-lootboxes-as-gambling
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Brucie Kibbutz - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:32:10 EST ID:qrQ+rwdC No.710403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710395

Someone clearly hasn't played Magic in the past decade. Decks with more mythics > than decks with less.
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Grayson Hunt - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:14:54 EST ID:z5TM7w3m No.710404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710403
Magic doesn't seem as predatory as the lootboxes though and I think that's really why they (lootboxes) need to be regulated. I mean ideally they wouldn't need to be regulated but evidently we can't have anything nice ever

I'm not sure why I think that because a pack of cards is really not too dissimilar to a lootbox, I suppose it might all be in the presentation.
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Scorpion - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:52:20 EST ID:XnDcyfMm No.710405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710399
>in these games I play I'm f2p because I don't support bad business practices, and I work on trying to get developers to change their habits
The best way to achieve that goal is to not give them your patronage at all.
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CRAPCOM !SNGay1lkXQ - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:11:08 EST ID:VeIaNXXy No.710407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710404
Well, if you get cards in a pack you don't want, theoretically you can trade or sell them. Save for the few games that support it on Steam's marketplace, that's not an option with lootboxes.
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Cloud Strife - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:15:11 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.710408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710404
Selling ingame advantage against players who haven't paid is far more predatory than superficial cosmetics, whether they're sold directly or in the form of lootboxes.

>>710349
Yes, publishers tend to be greedy as fuck and increased profits does not necessarily translate to increased development budgets (see FIFA/Madden), but their willingness to exploit various tools don't make the tools themselves inherently exploitative.
Lootbox systems don't have to contain ingame advantages that are basically unobtainable without paying.
TF2's lootbox system revitalized the game, allowing it to be developed years after release.
DLC doesn't have to be a completed game chopped up such that a player finds they suddenly have to pay extra to play integral parts of the game.
Company-run servers don't have to shut down a few months after the next edition is released.

The issue isn't the lootbox, it's the predatory way some companies implement them.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:52:31 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.710411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710066
Seems like they backed down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xm_kq8Sxzs
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CRAPCOM !SNGay1lkXQ - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:23:16 EST ID:VeIaNXXy No.710414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710411
Meaning, this stuff will come back in 1/2 months when the heat has died down, with further adjustments to the in-game economy, and sycophants will spout "we won!" as they pre-order the next $100 turd.
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Cloud Strife - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:52:12 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.710417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710411
It's a trap.
Once they have people's money from launch sales, EA will have no reason not to resume fucking the dumbshits who paid EA $60 to be fodder for people who paid EA even more.

EA stated that they would re-implement the "accelerated" experience once they re-balanced it.
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Thunder Hawk - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:29:33 EST ID:KXtc4TPX No.710431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/11/17/wall-street-is-freaking-out-as-ea-caves-again-to-social-media-outrage-over-its-star-wars-game.html

"This change is not expected to have a material impact on EA’s fiscal year 2018 financial guidance."
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Four - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 17:30:23 EST ID:K1BtQSqP No.710433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710411
The only thing that will force EA and all the other publishers to change is if someone forces them to. The Belgium Gambling commission launching their own investigation is a step in the right direction but its just not enough. And i honestly don't think it will ever be enough, not with the kind of money they make. Its going to be like the Mobile game scene. Every time you buy a game with Loot boxes in them, you help spread the cancer. The Normie doesn't give a fuck though, he never fucking did. Once something gets popular like video games did, its all over for us. TF2 and their fucking hat garbage literally ruined videogames.
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Hanzo Hattori - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 20:25:25 EST ID:HitiQ5Ab No.710441 Report Quick Reply
>>710433

Vote with your wallets. Boycott EA and other scummy publishers. Sure you'll be losing out on a few games, but they're losing out on the only thing they care about; Money.
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Terenas Menethil - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 22:32:59 EST ID:iV9DMnDa No.710447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710284
"WE GET IT AND THATS IT"- Bruce "EA" Greene
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Jago - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 00:51:57 EST ID:H9eOXleJ No.710451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710408
>The issue isn't the lootbox, it's the predatory way some companies implement them.
And the people who buy into lootboxes make that predatory model possible. Without the lootboxes and the idiot whales that buy them, these companies couldn't get away with this shit. Because of your lootbox systems and your "Player Bs" out there, the rest of us have to deal with all those other problems that you mentioned. The system and the buyers together make this a successful business model and thus ensure companies can get away with selling an incomplete product and dicking 99% of their audience. They make this state of affairs possible, which is why the Player Bs of the world absolutely are responsible for detracting from the experience for the rest of us and absolutely deserve our scorn.

This isn't a difficult concept.
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Duke Nukem - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:07:21 EST ID:6VaMJWZY No.710455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710408

What he said
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Sgt. Cortez - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 03:27:38 EST ID:G896i3R5 No.710459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2005) is a really fun game. $10 and endless replay value. The modding community made so much content that it's almost impossible to have all of it on one hard drive.

I don't understand why anybody wants to play the new Battlefronts. I don't understand why so many people are so invested in this when almost none of them have even played the original games.

Does the new game even have modding tools? Why does the multiplayer component even matter?

You people beg for garbage you don't care about, pay for garbage you don't care about, and then complain about how trashy it is. The original Battlefront community was rabid about Battlefront 3 being released - you know, the actual sequel to the original games. Battlefront 3 was exactly what we wanted. It was going to be a bigger, better, and visually enhanced version of the games we already had. This is what the original Battlefront hype was.

I have no fucking clue why so many people care about this new game. I really have no idea. The 2016 game was complete fucking horseshit - why did you guys want another one? You're really surprised that the Art School rejects at DICE, combined with the EA Profit beast would release a subpar generic shooter with Pay-to-Play elements? Seriously?

Strip away the PtP and the crappy progression and you still just have a shallow multiplayer art project shooter that exploits the brand name of a dead rotting horse corpse for monetary gain.

Fuck all of you.
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Chun-Li - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 03:50:09 EST ID:KGrL0MnJ No.710461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710441
This.

Pirate their games, tell Normies to pirate their games, and then when they do the Normie thing of "BuT pIrAtInG iS bAd!!!" tell them about all the shitty business practices that go on in the game industry and tell them that AAA publishers absolutely do not deserve anyones money ever.

Here's an idea: Get good, verified clean, easy to install versions of pirated AAA titles then spend that $60 you would have done on blank CDs/DVDs/USB Sitcks (enough to hold all the game data) and then start leaving piles of them around where gamers and normies who game congregate. Obviously don't leave any personal information or anything that can link you to anything about this anywhere near the discs, remember according to the law this is still illegal.

Fuck you AAA publishers, you wanna stick your dick in my wallet, I'm gonna stick mine in your bottom line. 🖕
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The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 03:56:41 EST ID:eUVoGiHt No.710463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710459
Bro almost all of us didn't give a shit about the last or current attempt at BF, we knew it was going to be garbage. We're mostly here to witness the shitshow of EA fucking people harder than they ever have before. What people do care about is vulnerable individuals being manipulated into loosing money to an organization that does not give a fuck about them, and yes, when an individual is not smart enough to realize they are being manipulated it makes them a vulnerable target.

I know it's frustrating to confront the notion of just how stupid people can be, but you shouldn't let that diminish your empathy for them, or let anger twist your mind into an apathetic justification that these vulnerable people deserve what they get, for you not caring only serves to strengthen the power corporations like EA have over their prey, because if good people who see through the manipulation don't care for those being exploited, then there is nothing stopping companies like EA from continuing their despicable practice.
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George Stobbart - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:36:32 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710459
>you people
I agree with all that you said, you should've made this post in 9fag or lelddit or some other normie site
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Mileena - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:54:09 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.710475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710459
How many people in here do you actually see talking about the game as if they bought it?
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Sgt. Cortez - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:11:29 EST ID:G896i3R5 No.710482 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710463
>>710474
>>710475
I finally vent my frustrations about something in a clear and coherent way - but I end up lashing out at the sweet gentle souls of 420chan. I'm sorry guys, I should have actually read the read.

nb
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Nightmare - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:57:11 EST ID:7tmkTFoA No.710488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lol you guys remember when EA would release a patch that made Battlefield 2 worse? And then they would release a patch that made the game great again..and everyone was happy for a while..and then two months down the road they would release another patch that would break the fucking game again and everyone would grab their pitchforks and go crazy at EA
That was 11 fucking years ago...before DLC, before microtransactions, before garbage AAA releases. This was back when DLC was known as expansion packs .EA still fucking up big time

Still, to this day this is the only BF2 I know and love. Fuck Star Wars
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Nightwolf - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 15:04:34 EST ID:HRSqBJ1H No.710495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710488

I remember that the EA in-house built patch installer for 1.3 reformatted my hard drive. It actually broke the hard drive of one of my friends.
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Tingle - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 15:49:23 EST ID:sHudmuaz No.710499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710495
wtf, not even the free memory bloated grindfest korean mmorpgs I play managed to make an installer that fucked up my computer that much
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Leon Powalski - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:38:16 EST ID:NGrsnIY8 No.710506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710495
I remember buying bf2 back in the day, but none of the patches would fkn run on my computer. My only experience with the game was lonely bot matches and other unpatched servers where everyone is a fucking dolphin with speed hacks. Apparently I really missed out :(
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Kerrigan - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:12:06 EST ID:LwyRcsev No.710508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710506
Me too :(
Me and my friend would spend hours switching off on the couter just getting shit on by everybody
Remember the Special forces expansion with the grapple hooks and flashbangs, c4ing enemy jets just as they take off, being that one camping asshole at the top of the crane, knifing people, Goddamn it it really brings me back.
The music, ahhh, so good
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Albert Wesker - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 03:33:48 EST ID:A+muwGLM No.710540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
EA ruins everything......
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Four - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 04:02:06 EST ID:+zAW+cgs No.710545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710540
Its not EA, Its the Normie. The Normie ruins everything he touches.
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Kit Ballard - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:49:55 EST ID:+pM3+RAI No.710578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
News has come out that EA fired the director of the Plants vs. Zombies series because he objected to having Pay to Win mechanics in his game.
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Lord Grazel - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:49:11 EST ID:F8Y5VUf/ No.710601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710578
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Kessler - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:36:47 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.710629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710578
EA deserves all the bad things that happen to them
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GLaDOS - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:51:58 EST ID:kce9VnKQ No.710630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710545
No, it's EA. "Normie" is just a retarded term people use to reinforce a stereotypical sense of otherness in people who don't like the same stuff as them.
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Lemming - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:58:29 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.710631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710545
Did normies ruin Rick and Morty for you? Is that why you're so angry at the normies?
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Nightmare - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:21:15 EST ID:+VmIBtgA No.710635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>710631
He's still angry that the Normies dealt the Anglo-Saxons such a decisive ass-whipping at Hastings in 1066.
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Four - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:36:42 EST ID:RrtLyFYN No.710638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710630
I only use it to describe people who like things only because they're popular now. The same people who used to make fun of you for playing games, suddenly are totally ok with playing games just marketing convinced them its 'Normal'. They never cared, they just do whatever everyone like them does. Now that VideoGames are bigger than ever, everything will turn into shit. Mark my words.
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Princess Farah - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:41:45 EST ID:H9eOXleJ No.710640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>710635
The Normie conspiracy is alive and well, fellow travelers. They crushed and seized control of the beautiful Anglo-Saxon civilization and they'll do the same to the video game industry. Protocols of the Elders of Rouen. Open your eyes, sheeple!


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