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VR Impressions by Fox McCloud - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:45:20 EST ID:Y896KFXz No.721690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm massively losing my interest in consoles and I doubt switching over to PC to play games with an Xbox One pad from my couch will bring the enthusiasm back.

I've been looking into VR, but while it's still new territory I'm not that confident splashing out on a HTC Vive or Rift and a PC that will support it as I have 0 experience with VR. I toyed with the idea of an Oculus Go for a cheap intro, but there really don't seem to be much anything of interest on the software and app side of things.

What's everybody's impression of VR been so far? Have you got one? Is it gathering dust? Are there any games that make the experience and price worthwhile? Any applications that you've been blown away by? Or is the VR revolution only jump-started trick people into their third copy of Skyrim?
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Juste Belmont - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:09:27 EST ID:Svm5z6HE No.721702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I got the PS4 VR set (as in a PS4 Pro + the VR kit, so about $700) about two months ago and I use it a lot, even though I only have a few games for it. Skyrim VR is, well, Skyrim in VR, it works well enough. SuperHot is nuts but really hard at times. Doom VFR is only really acceptable if you have the Aim controller, and Farpoint is made for it, but manageable with just the DS4. Gran Turismo I haven't played much but hear good things about, I'm not crazy about the drive sims myself and the progression system they shove in your face right off the bat gives me a bit of a bad impression. Driveclub VR is much simpler I feel, and much cheaper.

The game issue is the main one I think, developers are so spread out across different hardware that no one set is definitive yet. I suspect that PC VR is the strongest choice with the most variety in games, but it's also the most expensive in hardware. I opted for the PSVR because upgrading my PC would have cost twice as much and I'm really not a graphics whore so I feel it wouldn't get the use it deserves. I'm hoping more stuff comes out for the PSVR, but I'm really not looking forward to having to pay 60 usd for new games again since they have their own store that is pretty pathetic in comparison to what Steam has on offer.

But that's just consoles, not VR specifically. If you have the cash to splash it might be worth going for it, but it's definitely a luxury right now. If you haven't tried a Cardboard yet maybe give that a go before you drop the cash, it would be unfortunate to find you get motion sickness after spending that much.
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Fox McCloud - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:31:53 EST ID:Y896KFXz No.721704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721702

Cheers! I was toying with the idea of getting a VR system for the PS4, but again, I figured the only games on it are ones I’ve already played and wasn’t that enchanted with without the VR to begin with anyway. I do love Skyrim and Fallout despite their shortcomings, but I really don’t want to play through them again with a headset on.

What’s the skinny with the software/apps on PS4? Can you get some good spacewal, museum walkabouts or any entertaining/educational stuff like that?
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Juste Belmont - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:51:45 EST ID:Svm5z6HE No.721706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>721704
Mm, I feel the PS4 is going to be really limited with their 'experiences' since it all has to go through the PS Store. You don't get the wealth of indie one-shots you get on PC, and the free stuff is usually just demos or 10 minute games (unless you have PS+ which is a paid subscription service and you don't get to pick which games are free each cycle).
I believe it has the Within app and a couple others like that, so your basic VR videos and pictures are a given, I'm not sure there's much edutainment to be found since the PSVR set warns it's not for anyone under 12.

If you already have a PS4 then by all means it's pretty worth it, but to buy the PS4 just for that, well, I don't know. I did have to buy the Aim controller separate which was another 50 bucks, but even only using it in Farpoint, it was worth it. My heart gets pounding and my hands cramp because I'm gripping the gun so tight. I have to sit down after a while just because it's so taxing.

It's not... it's not quite where it can be yet, there are some improvements that can be made, we're pretty far from the endgame on VR stuff, but like I said, if you can afford it and it's something you've wanted for a long time, I think where we are now is pretty acceptable.
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Juste Belmont - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:10:35 EST ID:Svm5z6HE No.721707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you want the calm educational stuff, you might just want a google cardboard to use with your phone, at the very least it can give you a feel for what VR is like, and there are already hundreds of apps / videos / etc. for android that are free.
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Brad Vickers - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:25:38 EST ID:GuHBejpD No.721708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721690
I never played Skyrim before the VR version. Dont forget eith PSVR yiu have Doom and RE7 as well.

I only really played Skyrim and RE7 on it and loved the help out of every second. If I broke down the cost including games, and divided it by hours played, I've spent about $1/hr on the thing and that number will continue to go down.

I bet when you go to the bar for 2 hours you spend about $10/he at least. If you'll use the headset it's worth it. Simple as that.
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Fox McCloud - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:45:04 EST ID:Y896KFXz No.721709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>721706

I'm glad you enjoy it, but I think you might have discounted the PS4VR for me. I think I'm just getting to the point where video games bore me, so augmented AAA titles with a headset doesn't really appeal to me. Like you and >>721707 mentioned, I think I might have to enter into it via Cardboard and them maybe PCVR if I enjoy it.

Truth be told, I'm looking for apps I can enjoy with a few friends while we're tripping on acid, so Space Walks, Museums, 3D painting and those indie one-shots you guys touched on might be the way to go with it. I think anything too game-like with too many in-game mechanics to remember might be a bit too confusing with the LSD and the headset.
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Fox McCloud - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:55:49 EST ID:Y896KFXz No.721710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>721708

Interesting breakdown if value for money is the motivator. My main hobby has moved from gaming to programming music and noise, so it’s not so much a “how much am I spending sitting around” deal as a wanting to get into something a little more cerebral when I’m sat around doing nothing.
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Juste Belmont - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:34:58 EST ID:Svm5z6HE No.721712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>721709
Cardboard and PC are definitely going to give you the most variety in content, and if you just want it as a new experience then the cardboard is a good way to dip your toe in the VR pool. Especially if you want to do it with friends, the cardboard is cheap enough that you can get one for everyone, as long as they have a decent smartphone to run it ( my Nexus 4 still works fine with videos and some of the games, I don't game on it much because I don't have a working bluetooth controller. )

Or you can just pass it around, it is a pretty neat thing even to just look at 360 degree pictures of faraway places.
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Manny Calavera - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:12:34 EST ID:v5bK8HOC No.721724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721712
The plastic form cardboard with cushioned eye rests and a better light enclosure is only $15ish.no reason not to own one in 2018
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James Sunderland - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 20:09:09 EST ID:GuHBejpD No.721731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721710
Ok so like, I mean it sounds like you dont want a nice VR headset then and that you dont like games anymore.

Which is fine. But like, theres are impressions. We don't make money whether you buy it or not so, uh sorry its not for you and you already know it I guess?
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Sly Cooper - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 02:56:19 EST ID:DdRc9eBT No.721750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Get on my level.
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Voldo - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:34:26 EST ID:Yos/Q5eY No.721759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721750
This guy gets it.
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Vergil - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:02:03 EST ID:8NuGb901 No.721762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721750
A withered old man once opined that, after a certain point, technology might as well be magic. And there are some forces that should be left alone, lest we risk losing what truly makes us human. Who was this fool, to say something so bold? Well... some say he went by the name, of Albert Einsteins

Just something for you to ponder before you go any further down this road. Tie that bizarre device to a cinderblock, drop it in the ocean, and forget it ever existed. While you still, have a chance.....
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Professor T. Bird - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 15:12:56 EST ID:fasXcBGb No.721770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721762
Preach brother.
Although the complete quote is
>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
By Arthur Clarke, a sort of scifi philosopher and writer.
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Master Chief - Sat, 16 Jun 2018 01:52:19 EST ID:FeQZdHyN No.721802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was honestly blown away (again) by Skyrim in VR. There's so many little details that you just never notice when playing the game on a monitor, and their world is sooooooooooo big and full of content that it's pretty awesome to experience all over again.

I would also recommend PC for VR (provided you already have a powerful enough PC to run it).
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Peppy Hare - Sat, 16 Jun 2018 02:41:53 EST ID:nVEp8om0 No.721803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721802
Shut up, Todd.
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Kabal - Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:44:01 EST ID:Svm5z6HE No.721809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721802
Little details like what?
Maybe if you're playing on PC and can really crank the grafics but on PS4 I'm not that amazed by all the rocks and snow textures
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Pyramid Head - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 02:21:35 EST ID:jBcb2jiC No.727512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Frame-rate matters, guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv_GQNh9D68
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Mankar Camoran - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 03:47:31 EST ID:CMAOPcJv No.727517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721690
VR is for porn. none of the industry stuff or tech publications will tell you this directly but it's the truth, at least for now.
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Mega Man - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 11:07:10 EST ID:Q1/QXuqK No.727527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I can't shake the feeling that we'll find out VR headsets cause brain tumors or epilepsy in 5 years. It can't be healthy to use one of those things for more than ten minutes a day. Not to mention you're completely unaware of your surroundings when wearing it. If I was a criminal and I saw some fat schmuck vegging out with his headset, I'd break in, knock him out, take the headset, and rob the rest of his apartment.
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Mog - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 11:38:28 EST ID:FJboFaXM No.727529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
VR is for kids
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Vega - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 12:24:19 EST ID:OH/OGlHP No.727532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
VR is for porn kids
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honk - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 12:26:17 EST ID:Byjt8GBk No.727533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727517
>>727527
>>727529
>>727532
Stop fucking samefagging you tiny pile of cunts.
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Sarah Morrison - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 12:52:25 EST ID:kGoHpGn1 No.727535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727527

Look at mr buzzkill here. Oh look, we can't enter the matrix because someone will come in and rob us while we're plugged in.
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Professor Oak - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 13:10:33 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.727536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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VR? Lol.

Silly monkeys haven't figured out hyper-tactile neuro-interface based 6th dimensionality yet. Wew lads.

You're better off slinging shit at each other, why do you even try?
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Earthworm Jim - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:24:27 EST ID:8Gf56vEE No.727538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727536
get a load of this insatiable seeker of ever greater heights of meaningless stimulation, when he could become a monk and will himself out of existence like me. This echo is all that remains, I'm cruising the void while you mortals are getting transdimensionally jacked off with your goofy-ass haptic feedback Oculus cyberzentais or whatever the h*ll
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Sam Fisher - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:27:23 EST ID:7tmkTFoA No.727539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's pretty cool tech but there isn't enough good games for it. It's like the Dreamcast, very expensive and no one worthwhile is investing in it.

There is options of course, PSVR is the cheapest option for good VR but it's still really buggy and there aren't many worthwhile titles.
Google Cardboard is obviously the cheapest of all options, and there are a ton of apps both paid and free. But the quality is obviously the worst.
HTC Vive and the Oculus are the cream of the crop, but fuck is it ever expensive. For one, you need a beast of a PC to get good frames and only then do you have the option to buy the headsets, which are real fucking pricey. There is some cool games for it, but is there enough to justify the upwards of thousands of dollars? Yeah..probably not.

It's still in the gimmick stage. It's the motion controls of our generation, and we all know how that turned out.
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Kamek - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:49:53 EST ID:9/6XSoSQ No.727543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727539
Isn't oculus coming out with a whole setup that is way more affordable than he usual
I just wonder what the quality is going to be like.
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Professor Oak - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 18:24:10 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.727552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727538

Mate if you had actually willed yourself out of existence you wouldn't have fingers made of matter to type out your response.

Please don't tell me you're one of those retarded 'Enlightened' buddhist 5th uploads. Those are trash.
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Andrew Oikonny - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:28:12 EST ID:rLKwEYtG No.727559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>727552

>Mate if you had actually willed yourself out of existence you wouldn't have fingers made of matter to type out your response.

Heh, shows how much you know, nerd. Get a loud of this twerp!

Do you even subsist in a state of constant communion with the void?
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Astaroth - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:55:56 EST ID:FJboFaXM No.727560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727539
This is why i say VR is for children.

Momma, Papa, i want VR!


Little do they know it's just another scam tech that is yet to actually be of any value.
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Rinoa Heartilly - Sat, 06 Oct 2018 21:56:33 EST ID:I7zy3vGB No.727563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727539
>It's the motion controls of our generation, and we all know how that turned out.
An enduring addition to the toolset of controllers, useful when used sparingly and in conjunction with standard control sets, but obviously not fit for every game?
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Yorda - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 03:54:23 EST ID:FeQZdHyN No.727579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727543
Yeah Oculus is coming out with a standalone VR headset (the "Oculus Quest"). It'll be priced at $399, and my guess (I haven't used it yet) is that it'll end up landing somewhere inbetween current-gen phone VR and PSVR.
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Cole MacGrath - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 05:57:29 EST ID:OyPAbari No.727583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727559
The void is lame. If it wasn't you wouldn't be shit flinging on a drugs chan to get away from it. To aVoid it if you will.
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The Arbiter - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 11:03:27 EST ID:2c5VI5oX No.727589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dont know anyone, myself included, that was really impressed with VR after trying it. Mildly amazing for a couple of minutes then promptly meh.

Its alright, but resolution is poor, field of view is limited, theres an unmistakable feeling of wearing a hefty piece of gear on your face, shit gets sweaty and strains your eyes, while the depth effect is still not realistic due to how everything is in focus at the same time, unlike IRL where the only plane in focus is the one you focus on.

All this will get sorted out in future generations, but right now I'd advise anyone to spend that money towards a high quality standard display, whores, or cocaine.
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Psycho Mantis - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 15:08:03 EST ID:7F8ZmvKG No.727592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727589
>right now I'd advise anyone to spend that money towards a blah blah something something, whores, or cocaine.

don't need ot tell me twice nb
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Cole MacGrath - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:12:35 EST ID:OyPAbari No.727600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727589
I tried it and was impressed with the potential. The tech and capability is there to do something amazing. Converting games made primarily for other forms of play is not realising that potential but I guess it allows them to keep refining the tech until someone is brave enough, or enough headsets exist that it becomes worth making a "killer app" for. Once that happens I suspect we'll see an opening of the floodgates and it might be worth getting.

For now though I agree. Get a main display with a high build quality so you can tilt it flat and bend a whore over it and snort cocaine out her arsehole. Or something Last time I had that sort of money to blow I got a new amp and distortion pedal. I mean I can coax the sludge out all over the house any time that way.
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Cheetahmen - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 18:20:44 EST ID:vebcBt1v No.727665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721690
If money isn't an issue, buy a headset
If you really want one, buy a headset
If you just want to try it out, make a friend who has a headset.

I bought the PSVR for Skyrim. It was an expensive experience, but well worth it to me. Sure I played a few other games but the hours and hours spent in that headset exploring Skyrim were more than worth the price I paid.

All in all based on use, I paid around $1.50 an hour for entertainment. A lot cheaper than going to the bar or an arcade.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 18:22:50 EST ID:bzxmOK8n No.727666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>721690
I just want to get VR to combine the Fallout 4 style base making games to create the ultimate chill spot to just hang out and smoke weed in.
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Fluke Hawkins - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 05:25:38 EST ID:vUQMvqUU No.727676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Resident Evil 7 in VR blew my fucking mind and made me realize the potential VR has. I've since sold my PSVR because the resolution was pretty bad, but god damn if RE7 ever comes to PC VR in super high res, I don't care how much it costs I'm getting it.I felt like I was really in that mansion at certain points. When I smoked weed and played it I started losing touch with reality, it was kinda fucked up. I can only imagine when the graphics are perfected and the experience as a whole is improved...the future is gonna be weird.
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Panther Caroso - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 18:18:04 EST ID:5yMaJwR6 No.727687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727676
Try on a dissociative. Holy hell
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genophyte - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:54:19 EST ID:i2lLZCma No.727731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been eyeing the oculus rift for art and music production.

I already have a kinect that I use the fuck out of with native instruments reaktor and a myriad of failed 2dlive experiments
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Kit Ballard - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:06:49 EST ID:V7b26ALC No.727733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Moss and Super Hot are really good games if you do get one. My roommates and i played the fuck out of Super Hot. He bought the PS4 one with Skyrim bundled with it.
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Nick Havoc Parker - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:10:34 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.727735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>727676
>but god damn if RE7 ever comes to PC VR in super high res, I don't care how much it costs I'm getting it

What if I said One million dollars???
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Zerg - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:24:53 EST ID:5yMaJwR6 No.727748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727733
You have it mirrored on a monitor so the other people can see?
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Zerg - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:30:55 EST ID:5yMaJwR6 No.727749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>727731
Looks like you can do a lot of fun shit with a Kinect and music, had no idea. Makes sense.

This webm isn't amazing but it does demonstrate that it's probably a fuckload of fun.

I used to have fun making music with a Wacom tablet. Good times.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:11:05 EST ID:bzxmOK8n No.727753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727749
The idea is kind of the same as whats been used for years. The Kinect is basically a controller, and most controllers can be used to be mapped to a generalized midi controller. From there you can use it to control knobs on the x or y axis in analog. Or you could have some digital style on or off effects triggers with a button press much like a guitars foot pedals. Or set up specific notes to button presses, or use shoulder buttons for pitch blending. If one wanted to they could use guitar hero or rock band controller in a DAW and make music with them, or even the fucking Donkey kong bongo thing.
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Dr. Klein - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:25:34 EST ID:PZsoj7x9 No.727754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727735
And what if I said RE is a barely mediocre series with an unimaginative plot and gameplay features that, any other game that has them, has done better.
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Nemesis - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:05:35 EST ID:uo28BM46 No.727756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727754
If you said that id say, ''Take some shrooms, and try again.''
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:17:08 EST ID:bzxmOK8n No.727758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>727754
>unimaginative plot
In one game alone you have a rich family who discovers some genetic shit during the 1700's who then grows into a giant business, that leads to the current twin leaders to experiment on their father when he almost fucked the company stock value up, turning him into a eyeless monster of tentacles and poisons, hidden away in an antarctic base, and that experiment lead them to refine the gene shit some and test it on the female twin, leading the male twin to grow up into a transvestite who thinks he is his own sister.
Say nothing of the fucking zombies.
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GLaDOS - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:08:44 EST ID:dzxOdbCO No.727765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727754

RE 1 and 2 are treasures. RE7 is definitely not mediocre. It's an homage to all different kinds of horror balled into a short and sweet little game. It's not perfect by any means but "barely mediocre" is a bit harsh.
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Gruntilda - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:19:36 EST ID:jBcb2jiC No.727796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Imagine jump-scares with VR goggles on..
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Q-Bert - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:27 EST ID:ximGHp1i No.727805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727765
I dont know how anyone can complain about RE7. Especially after the absolute disappointment 5 and 6 were.

7 was different in a good way. If you want the same old thing go get your n64 and keep playing the same old thing.
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Nana & Popo - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:53:09 EST ID:Vl39hK5W No.727826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>727805
Or just wait for RE2make and you can play the same old thing, but shiny and new.
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Jessica Tandy needs candy !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:58:11 EST ID:NbwRH3xR No.727846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is a serious joke question but can I duct tape my 4th generation iPhone to my head to work like a cockulusrift? My thought is that I can use the camera instead of my eyes so I could put a solid steel plate over my face so that I don't get shot in the face


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