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Why do people have such a problem with piracy? Ignore Report Reply
Kane - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:58:59 EST ID:T6MhRsNG No.734821
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I see all the time on this board "Oh I wish I could play this game but it's too expensive" or "oh I think this looks cool but I'm waiting for it to go on sale" and I just can't even understand that. Just fucking download it from one of the million places on the internet! You weren't going to buy it anyway, so just get it for free! If you really like the game, guess what, you can still buy it and support the developers later! Seriously, how much of a fucking stallion do you have to be to not even consider the option of getting something for free that is otherwise more expensive than it should be? I'm gonna be straight with you: when you spend money on a game, especially by a major studio, NONE OF THAT MONEY GOES TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORKED ON IT. THOSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAID. All of your money goes to the corporate publishers who everyone hates. There is literally no downside to you, the player, for pirating the game, with the rare exception of online multiplayer games. Just fucking do it! Nobody cares, and nobody gets hurt!
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 23:22:03 EST ID:gNBJa0Vj No.734823 Ignore Report Reply
>>734821
ok then
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Saren - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 23:40:56 EST ID:5BB4jY6h No.734824 Ignore Report Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Serah Farron - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 23:47:54 EST ID:K0lo1bml No.734825 Ignore Report Reply
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Who said this board has a problem with piracy?
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Frank Fontaine - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 23:59:10 EST ID:w5O8WO5d No.734827 Ignore Report Reply
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>>734821
Piracy is good and cool.
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Capt. Bannon - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 00:17:43 EST ID:uo28BM46 No.734828 Ignore Report Reply
>>734827
We know. No need to make a thread out of it. The people that want to pirate, do.
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JC Denton - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 00:44:46 EST ID:DOykDSES No.734829 Ignore Report Reply
I only pirate EA and Epic Store Exclusive games.
I mostly buy games from Steam and GOG Galaxy.
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Terenas Menethil - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:23:00 EST ID:cdJrLj9u No.734845 Ignore Report Reply
yarrrr
also buy the games you like to ensure the dev team get to work on something else

but yarrr the epic store has been wonderful for dusting off my torrent-fu :)
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Four - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:16:59 EST ID:Pchzy9GI No.734849 Ignore Report Reply
>>734825
I did. I don’t anymore. The EpicStore shit got me convinced Piracy is the only way.
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Augustus Cole - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 14:33:24 EST ID:IrHSPSUc No.734852 Ignore Report Reply
>>734821
If no one buys the games the publishers stop financing them. I'm not saying that if you're broke and distrust the developer but want to give it a punt don't try before you commit. Because honestly that model might even drive more sales for good games (while punishing the bad).

Buy the good games, don't buy the bad. Pirate the ones you're not sure about before you buy (and/or you don't have a lot of goodwill for the publisher)

>>734829
You even use bandwidth on EA? They're not even worth the time to pirate tbh.

>>734845
In short this guy. I don't pirate but I also buy very selectively now. I can't be arsed with piracy and always have a backlog. If the game is a 110% buy for me I'll wait and see when a consensus I can trust emerges (takes a few days for some games but months for more contraversial ones).

TLR: Fuck you if you need a TLR but also money is the language they understand, make sure you communicate using a wide vocabulary.
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Baraka - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:56:53 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.734860 Ignore Report Reply
Only now that I have a salary am I actually buying games, but even then it's very, very rare and it's gotta be a discount. Up until this point I pirated everything, and I still pretty much do.
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Frank Fontaine - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:36:48 EST ID:w5O8WO5d No.734861 Ignore Report Reply
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>>734828
I'll make sure to pass that information along to the OP.
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Crash Bandicoot - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:15:55 EST ID:IMq1LVU/ No.734868 Ignore Report Reply
Glad to see this thread hasn't yet devolved into the bitchfest it usually becomes. Hooray for piracy! Pay what you want and reform the entertainment industry into a gift economy!
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Tifa Lockheart - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:10:43 EST ID:oj1gpRwk No.734953 Ignore Report Reply
>>734852
Piracy increases sales, according to research published by the industry.
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Rico Rodriguez - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:37:19 EST ID:tugURhRn No.734954 Ignore Report Reply
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>>734821
because you can't play online with pirated games.
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Smithy - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:38:27 EST ID:IrHSPSUc No.734999 Ignore Report Reply
>>734953
Yes because rather than risking money on a hyped but unknown product they try and then end up buying things they'd never otherwise risk. They avoid a few shit titles and reward the better ones. For sales to increase more people must buy. Therefore those pirates are buying.

I'm not saying don't pirate. I think that if you like the game and you're not temporarily super broke if you're on a high end PC downloading games or have a new console or whatever you're not long term broke to that extent then buy it. If you don't into the trash it goes.

I can't be arsed to pirate because it's effort but I think pirates are part of the community I read the buzz of. If people are raving about a game weeks or months after release (depending on it's size and substance) that's more reliable than a review or some first week raving from someone who thinks Kotaku is a good site.

Economics talk here: Piracy isn't the same as theft and the fact that pirating does not deny the ability to sell that unit to someone else, there is marginal cost to the producer means we have the unique opportunity to decide if the good is worth the price based on the value it gives you rather than a less complete information set based as hype. This transaction has better information and so is essentially better economically than traditional purchasing. It's not viable for many goods but for a lot of digital products it is. It won't take quickly under our current political mode because of big businesses, but that mode is not sustainable. If pirates have kept honest then it means this model may become acceptable in future regardless. Even if it's not, buying a good that's worth the money is a good economic decision.

I buy a lot of music, way more than the average person. I listen to almost all of it A LOT before I buy. This is because music, particular good relatively independent shit has already transitioned to this model. So that's a good sign.
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Caius Cosades - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 14:09:12 EST ID:Mz5DvYKJ No.735002 Ignore Report Reply
>>734821
Because it's basically theft and stealing makes Jesus sad unless it's from EA[/spoiler] and most of them I was planning on getting anyway. A few exceptions I have made are Prey from 2006 and Cryostasis, neither of which are sold on Steam, and testing several iffy games like MoO4, Stellaris, and Dawn of Andromeda all of which I deleted after trying them. I honestly might get DoA eventually despite it not being a good game. Stellaris was just a total letdown. I have no idea why so many people love it except I'd imagine it's the same GSG often poltard type of crowd who like Paradox games and otherwise have never played a 4x. I mean ffs Stellaris looks and feels like an indie game. I've also pirated Plague Evolved because I already paid for it at least once and I agree with you that people who pay for the same game multiple times across platforms are retarded. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to pirate the apk etc files Shadowrun because I bought it and the cocksuckeds then pulled it from mobile stores and didnt give me my money back.

Otherwise I pay for games partly to own them and have full functionality and partly because I want to support most of the companies so they keep making games I like. If everyone pirates and nobody buys then this means all the worst garbage I hate will keep their demand meanwhile demand for games I love will drop and I already play niche games. Lastly
>stallion
Gb2the future faggot
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James Sunderland - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 14:44:10 EST ID:Dk77LuKa No.735009 Ignore Report Reply
>>734954

...yyyyyyeah you actually can.
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Caius Cosades - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 14:51:15 EST ID:Mz5DvYKJ No.735012 Ignore Report Reply
>>735009
Depends on the game. If you get caught doing that shit on steam (which you probably eventually will) you'll get a VAC ban and be locked out of all your games iirc. Most of the people who get caught are caught trying to play their pirated shit online.

...not that it matters even because most if the games I play are singleplayer anyway. I still haven't even played XCOM EU or XCOM2 online. And sadly while I want to play Fallout Tactics I know that game is so old I'm never going to find anyone unless I set up a direct connect with a friend.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 22:14:03 EST ID:gNBJa0Vj No.735031 Ignore Report Reply
>>735012
VAC bans are for a select few Valve games only, specifically for catching cheaters in CS go and shit.

valve will never ban an account over piracy, mostly because they'd have a hell of a time proving it and revoking the license on all the games a player owns would invoke one hell of a potential law suit.
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Four - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 23:00:54 EST ID:E6sNZaY6 No.735033 Ignore Report Reply
>>735031
I got a VAC ban for using an aimbot in Call of Duty:Modern Warfare once. Took a long while to ban me too. I used to just jump in the middle of a map, right click mouse and headshot everyone. People used to massage me about the cheat and I’d give it to them. Must’ve got at least three people banned alongside me.
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Primordial Serpent Kingseeker Frampt - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:11:33 EST ID:Ym89Yl0z No.735155 Ignore Report Reply
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>>735031
>thinks Steam won't ban his account for pirating their games

lol.
with that attitude you deserve losing your whole library.

Can't wait for the next
"waaaah. Steam killed my account of 200+ games because a friends of mine used a pirated game and now I am buttfucked. Boho halp."

*grabbing popcorn*
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Cortana - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:24:09 EST ID:wDdNHAID No.735157 Ignore Report Reply
>>735155
I use steam exclusively because some cracks require it. Literally never bought a game or even installed a free one.
My account is fine. If they dont bother to ban me I doubt they would ban someone with 200 games.
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Dirk the Daring - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:53:36 EST ID:ZeiNUwqN No.735159 Ignore Report Reply
>>735155
I've been playing pirated games through Steam for years and know a shitton of other people who do and we're all fine. None of us have ever been banned

>VALVE KNOWS

Okay but they don't act on that knowledge so does it matter
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 08:43:15 EST ID:gNBJa0Vj No.735161 Ignore Report Reply
>>735155
See you in Spacewar shithead
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Andrew Oikonny - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:19:54 EST ID:93voU8ra No.735162 Ignore Report Reply
>>735159
Don't understand this, you literally have to load Steam to play it? Never encountered this. Just load the EXE? The cracked DLL bypasses the need to load in Steam, no?
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Dirk the Daring - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:39:48 EST ID:ZeiNUwqN No.735163 Ignore Report Reply
>>735162
Depends, if you want to play online you do need to load Steam, because there's still some authentication fuckery at play


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