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- Fri, 22 Mar 2019 05:26:54 EST WK70lQyn No.733803
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Dark Souls with ninjas is out.

Anyone else ready to get their asses kicked over and over again?
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GLaDOS - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 08:38:09 EST UcENjjuY No.733810 Reply
Nope, I enjoy the Dark Souls games but I'm not liking this slimming down of the mechanics that they started in Blood Borne.
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Alice - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:09:55 EST 93voU8ra No.733814 Reply
>>733810
It's just a retake. BB introduced new mechanics as well, things they couldn't do in a DS game. Why? Because it wasn't Dark Souls. They are allowed to make other games.
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Spinal - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:52:48 EST xiGHuodJ No.733817 Reply
I loved Soulsborne but I just could never give a fuck about this game. The setting doesn't interest me at all and a fixed protagonist / no classes is a massive, massive strike against it IMO.
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GLaDOS - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:27:08 EST UcENjjuY No.733818 Reply
>>733814
Maybe I didn't phrase it right, what I mean is that there's a clear focus towards certain playstyles which they started in BB but is even more prominent in Sekiro. Maybe it's becoming more complex and polished sure, but at the cost of player freedom in choosing how to build their character and play.

>They are allowed to make other games.
I never said they shouldn't, I just happen to not like them as much.
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343 Guilty Spark - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 12:34:28 EST WK70lQyn No.733826 Reply
>>733818
I agree the lack of build variety is a disappointment, and made me less hyped for it than I was when Bloodborne came out, but at the end of the day I'm interested in playing damn good games, regardless of whether or not they tick all of the boxes on my personal checklist.

And damn is this game good so far. The combat is a significant departure from Souls in a good way, the stealth gameplay is surprisingly well done, and the level design is better than ever with the added verticality. I'd say it's a bit harder than Souls games at this point, but that could be just be me getting used to the new mechanics.
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James Earl Cash - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 18:14:09 EST rnW981Qj No.733839 Reply
Game is fun as hell so far
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Andrew Oikonny - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 20:13:48 EST bDVEN8IP No.733853 Reply
>>733818
The game wants you to think the combat is like BB, when its actually based around carefully pouncing on enemies to shank them. You spiderman around most of the time
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Ickybod Clay - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:16:38 EST rnW981Qj No.733864 Reply
>>733853

Thanks for saying that. I've been playing aggressively, and getting my ass kicked for it.
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Jack Carver - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:49:41 EST F5xUVWD2 No.733870 Reply
Just tried extremely hard on a boss I wasn't ready for for ~3 hours and came close, realized there was another way to go and killed the actual "first boss" in about 30 min. Game rips so far. Great set pieces, movement is fluid, combat is tight, story seems like it's gonna get d e r a n g e d.
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Capt. Olimar - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 02:17:56 EST 1PRipo9X No.733872 Reply
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>>733853
I think this is true up to a point, but especially with tougher enemies that you can't cheese by hiding, you really have to be aggressive and keep the pressure on their posture meter up. That spearman miniboss at the estate, for instance. And speaking from experience, if you're still learning the rhythm of the combat, constantly sneaking around and backstabbing everyone can leave you unprepared when a big fight is inevitable. But yeah, most of the time staying mobile and keeping a low profile is essential. Anyway the combat seems super fun and dynamic overall, I'm having to relearn a lot of Dark Souls habits.

But I do hope they combine the best of both worlds in the future, I miss experimenting with different weapons as well as the more nonlinear structure and character progression of DS
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Ibuki - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 06:13:42 EST H3cEG08e No.733879 Reply
I'm stuck on Genichiro Ashina. I can get to his third phase and then mostly die to his lightning or only having a little hp at that point and not having a chance to heal. Does anyone know if I can go somewhere else first? I've beat Lady Butterfly and that whole area.

Have to say I'm enjoying the game but not really the whole guard break system. It often takes way too long to fill their metre up and it degrades extremely fast. Game is definitely harder than all of the Souls games but not nearly as enjoyable.
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Gabriel Belmont - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 08:07:15 EST WK70lQyn No.733884 Reply
>>733878
Minor spoiler-y tip for this boss: don't use ANY snap peas on this boss until you're 100% confident you can deal with her attacks, because once you run out of them, they're gone, and you can't buy them anywhere afaik. The second phase isn't impossible without them but it's way harder. Reports around of people finding themselves "softlocked" and starting over 15+ hour save files.
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Christopher Belmont - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:13:54 EST WAMLGFs2 No.733886 Reply
I was never a fan of the Souls games for the fact it was so much trial and error about exactly what you had to do in a precise instant in order to progress without dying immediately. I like challenging games that require fast hands and good coordination, but the souls games were often impossibly hard, as in you often have to know ahead of time what lay around the corner.

I guess what I'm asking is, is this game another trial and error festival, or is it remotely enjoyable?
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Duke Beefhammer - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:28:18 EST aOS43GVb No.733888 Reply
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Hows this game compared to Tenchu
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Gabriel Belmont - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:28:48 EST WK70lQyn No.733889 Reply
>>733887
You can buy 3 right after the horseman boss. I found 6 total beforehand, don't know if there are anymore around.
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Jack Carver - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 10:42:06 EST F5xUVWD2 No.733890 Reply
Having a real hard time with spearman miniboss in the reservoir - any tips?
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Porky Minch - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 10:51:36 EST +/p2ZszC No.733891 Reply
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Okay here's my issue with this game...

I picked up RE7, and fucking loved it. Then I picked up MGSV and kinda love it, kinda hate open world MGS that can't live up to MGS3's depth. Picked up DMC5, and kinda hate it for being Tony Hawk's Pro Skater with swords and guns, dunno WTF I was expecting, since that's exactly what DMC has always been. I also just finished watching Berlin Alexanderplatz...

WHY CAN'T I PLAY A GAME WHERE MY CHARACTER DOESN'T GET THEIR ARMS SLICED OFF?! What the fuck? I've never been on this specific a roll of something that isn't even a trope. What's with all of the amputation?
It's like a portent at this point. I feel like I'm going to lose my left arm at any moment.

This game is the coolest Samurai/Ninja game since Revenge of Shinobi on Sega Genesis hands down. That's right. Shinobi 3 isn't as good as Revenge of Shinobi and if you disagree you can suck it and it's a very different, faster game and your opinion is probably completely valid.
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Ibuki - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 11:35:42 EST H3cEG08e No.733893 Reply
>>733884

You don't need them. Just kite all the illusion babies around until they disappear and use one of the pillars to hide behind.
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Gabriel Belmont - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:18:19 EST WK70lQyn No.733895 Reply
>>733893
Worked like a charm, thanks.

>>733890
You can sneak around the side like in the tutorial and backstab him so you only have to deal with one HP bar, other than that just bait out Mikiri counters and deflects till his posture breaks. Probably better off coming back to him later with better stats, since he only drops a prayer bead.
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R.O.B. - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:20:17 EST uIHIE5H/ No.733896 Reply
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didn't know how badly I needed this game til I played it. "Darksouls but with ninjas" didn't sound too appealing, but wow this just works. I'm totally immersed in the world they've built already...fuck it's good.
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Capt. Olimar - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:22:17 EST 1PRipo9X No.733899 Reply
>>733890
What >>733895 said (although I dunno if you need to come back later, he's not incredibly difficult once you figure him out), but also, do the counter right after the red icon disappears. Might be obvious but my main problem with him was figuring out the timing on that.

>>733891
>It's like a portent at this point. I feel like I'm going to lose my left arm at any moment.
It's actually gonna be your right arm. That sucker's coming off on June 17th.
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Porky Minch - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:25:38 EST +/p2ZszC No.733900 Reply
>>733890
The trick I've found is to backstab one guy, alert the one who can see you killing him, run away, kill him on the bridge then go back for the backstab on the last soldier.

Then you can backstab fuckboi from the flower garden. And honestly it's still hard with only one health bar.
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Martin Septim - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:47:35 EST zwvOSWpy No.733931 Reply
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Juzou done pissed me off and I need a break. I had him down to only a sliver of health when he killed me. The drunk bastard
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Dr. Ivo Robotnik - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 01:17:23 EST 1PRipo9X No.733934 Reply
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>>733931
Just wait until you get to the one after him. Jesus holy hell.

Pic unrelated because I decided to go elsewhere, but goddamn this game... I hate it but it's also so fuckin good
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Martin Septim - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 01:44:11 EST zwvOSWpy No.733935 Reply
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>>733934
Just beat Juzou. Killed his mob first. Then sneak attacked him and ran and talked to the guy that helps you(I didnt even know he was there the first couple of runs). While homeboy distracted Juzou i threw oil at him and lit him up with flame vent. Made it easy as fuck. I think I just needed to take a break because Juzou wasnt really that hard. And are you supposed to finish Ashina outskirts first? Because as soon as I got the bell I went to the Hirata estate. Bout to fight the old lady,heard shes a bitch
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Edgar Ross - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 06:23:28 EST H3cEG08e No.733941 Reply
Just beat Headless and totally cheesed him. I was having trouble with his teleport and grab from behind move, so I got him to teleport up to the hallway behind where he is located and then I could fight him without worrying about the grab.
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Marc Kai - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 13:11:22 EST 6lTa5Uh4 No.733952 Reply
Does this game have a giant spider? I'll be disappointed if it doesn't
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Jason Fleming - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:00:57 EST rnW981Qj No.733954 Reply
The more I play this game, the more badass it gets. From Software did it again, mane.
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Alexander Romanov - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:04:42 EST 0z+RVgZ0 No.733959 Reply
>>733951
Wow you fucking retarded faggot. Your link didn't work. What the fuck you're posting dead links for, faggot. Wow, you fucking suck dicks.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:18:08 EST QHTBwrJa No.733961 Reply
Fuck that spear guy in the estate, thanks for the tips
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Jason Fleming - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:52:19 EST rnW981Qj No.733965 Reply
>>733957
>>733959

Relax, dudes. Ya'll must be new. It's actually a red dit link. Whenever someone says red dit, it gets changed into "circlejerk."
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Gunther von Esling - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 19:29:55 EST XTkbRuzQ No.733968 Reply
>>733967
Ive been coming on here for like 10 years, and ive never seen a Rehddhit link so I guess thats why. Im still wondering why it took me to chaturbate.
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Rayne - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 20:41:55 EST rnW981Qj No.733975 Reply
>>733968

I thought "circlejerk" just generated dead links. I'm sincerely sorry that happened, though. The real link I posted was just a good way to cheese Lady Butterfly.
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Norton Mapes - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:21:42 EST 1PRipo9X No.733981 Reply
>>733951
I've been trying this but god that second stage is killing me. Last time I think something broke because one of the ghosts failed to despawn and she stopped summoning new ones, which might've make things easier if I didn't keep constantly autotargeting it instead of her. Ugh. I think I'm going to start pretending that my goal is to spread Dragonrot, because ultimately are not humans... the real plague? Makes yuo think.

>>733935
>And are you supposed to finish Ashina outskirts first?
I think it makes sense to go there early to pick up the axe and the flamethrower, but I dunno if you're supposed to finish it in one go since the difficulty ramps up so much with Lady Butterfly and the Ogre feels infinitely easier in comparison
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M. Bison - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 04:57:54 EST DJg5qqEs No.734001 Reply
Initially I was so fucking hyped for this game, despite being disappointed that there would be no customization like in Dark Souls.
But I've read reports saying the story is also pretty linear and not that vague and now I'm starting to doubt the longevity of this game. Sounds like there's no replay value at all if you can just get the whole story from a single playthrough...
Part of the reason I loved playing Bloodborne and Dark souls was because I had watched countless lore videos that came out of a community effort to actually make sense of the fucking convoluted story of the Soulsborne universe(s?).

I'm sure it's fun as hell but I was expecting Dark Souls with ninjas from From.
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Isaac Clarke - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 05:24:19 EST H3cEG08e No.734003 Reply
>>734001

I'm about 30 hours in and still have quite a few bosses/mini-bosses to go and am definitely planning to do NG+ if it is on here to try get all the skills. The story is linear but it's still somewhat subtle in the way From does and definitely does feel like something you still wouldn't grasp all of in just the first playthrough. Definitely seems like replayability here.
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Rayne - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:32:44 EST rnW981Qj No.734013 Reply
The exploration in this game is blowing my mind. There are certain areas that are so easy to ignore, but once you find it, it leads to other places. Shit is kind of nuts.
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Felicia - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:35:06 EST YShfzgns No.734019 Reply
>>734001
>I was expecting Dark Souls

Sounds like your dumb ass fault for being a casual soulsbro who think From begins and ends with one series.
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Seath the Scaleless - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:48:37 EST 5LYJws1L No.734020 Reply
>>734001
They said it from the get-go is going to be a tenchu game, but it just formed into its own ninja game. They never said it was going to be souls game you knuckle head.
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Koopa Troopa - Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:43:04 EST 6VvmZOON No.734023 Reply
>>733888
I've had two friends compare it to Tenchu in a favorable manner so far.
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Trevor C. Belmont - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:14:14 EST vWbQjsP5 No.734026 Reply
Feels like if Blade of the Immortal and Dororo were made into a video-game...
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Marshall Law - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 08:27:50 EST WK70lQyn No.734057 Reply
>>734055
Better stealth, better combat, better bosses, better story, and MUCH better level design. Nioh did have more weapon variety and deeper RPG mechanics though.

Nioh was great, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sekiro.
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James Sunderland - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:45:49 EST XCHiW7gO No.734154 Reply
>>734145

It definitely seems harder than any Dark Souls game. But with Dark Souls, I was able to grind and level up my character to be overpowered for certain bosses, or summon a phantom if I was really stuck. This game forces you to use only your skill. It does seem like you can cheese a lot of the bosses though.
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Cinder - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 17:07:50 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734167 Reply
>>733879
Before beating Genichiro you can complete almost all of Senpou Temple, you can't fight the monkey boss until after Genichiro is dead though. You can also go to Sunken Valley and make it through the gunfort, but then you'll hit a locked door that you can't open till after Genichiro. You might be able to do the entire Ashina Depths before Genichiro, that's the only sequence-break path I haven't tried yet.

Also enemies regenerate posture in proportion to the health they have, the game tells you this. If enemies are generating posture too fast damage their health or don't let them breathe for even a second. Once I got good at Genichiro I could get a deathblow on him in a bit under a minute if he did the right attacks.

So far I've beat the game once and have almost beat it on another save (not NG+) so I can do different quests, collect all the shit I missed, and get a different ending. There are four fucking endings! Once I beat the game on my new save I think I will try out NG+. It apparently gets way harder, you can't increase your health anymore but there is apparently no limit on how much you can keep increasing your attack.
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James Sunderland - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 19:00:31 EST XCHiW7gO No.734187 Reply
>>734167

I did beat him but thanks. I actually did end up doing a lot of other stuff before finally going back to him and was able to get my hp up a bit more. The third phase actually wasn't too bad if you stay really close to him. It was a late realisation for me though that getting their health down affected how slowly their guard-bar diminished.
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Zits - Fri, 29 Mar 2019 04:33:28 EST a1Bkb6gl No.734245 Reply
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>Sekiro the One-armed Wolf 隻狼
It seems likely then that Sekiro (隻狼) is in fact a shortening of Sekiwan no Ookami (隻腕の狼), or one armed wolf.
Gameplay feels like Strider mixed with Bloodborne to me.
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Pimple - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 09:29:44 EST 1PRipo9X No.734303 Reply
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>>734298
I mean I don't think it should have an easy mode, but if there was an option to make bosses and minibosses slightly less brutal... I wouldn't take it, because I am a flawless shinobi warrior with perfect reflexes who will never die even once
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Lu Bu - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 12:08:50 EST rnW981Qj No.734306 Reply
Bruh, Owl's english dub voice is pure sex.
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Razputin Aquato - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 13:02:19 EST XCHiW7gO No.734368 Reply
Normally with the Souls games I would play a 2 hander strength character but playing this has made me want to go back and try parrying everything.
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Amaterasu - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:54:15 EST ON5DvPVH No.734379 Reply
Jesus CHRIST.
Darksydephil just got killed by a chicken.

Has any other Lets Player even managed this?
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Nathan Spencer - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 15:29:32 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734381 Reply
>>734379
Vaati beat it days ago. I'm on NG+2 already. It's not that hard once you learn to play and git gud
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G-Man - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 16:18:26 EST cD+qQIk0 No.734384 Reply
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>>734154

it's not only that but I think a lot of the changed mechanics are put in specifically to trip up experienced souls players. I kind of feel like this would be easier if I'd never played a souls game before as so many of my instincts for approaching areas and enemies are just wrong. In Dark Souls you have to be cautious and slow and wait for your opening but in Sekiro you've got to be stealthy and quick and make your own openings. Not being able to fast roll away from enemies and not having a weak and strong attack has been really tripping me up.

Its great because it feels like playing Dark Souls for the first time in some ways. But it's also really fucking frustrating because it feels like playing a Dark Souls game for the first time.
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Nathan Spencer - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 17:08:14 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734388 Reply
>>734384
I've seen a few streamers misuse Sekiro's charge attack. They think it works like the power attack in dark souls but it does barely more damage than the normal attack, not enough to justify the charge up time. What it's really for is when enemies are holding guard, the thrust attack is a guard break not a power attack.

It's weird though some of the bosses are more dark souls style, like the guardian ape and the demon of hate. Still, another thing that tripped me up is thinking that some attacks were too big and had to be dodged. A lot of bosses got much easier when I realized you can deflect literally any attack, even if it's a massive demon about to punch your face in.
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Kilik - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 04:34:13 EST 6VvmZOON No.734400 Reply
>>734388
The charge attack is also pretty handy for closing the gap if an enemy back-steps.

>>734384
>Its great because it feels like playing Dark Souls for the first time in some ways. But it's also really fucking frustrating because it feels like playing a Dark Souls game for the first time.

Well said.
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Dhalsim - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 06:53:29 EST rnW981Qj No.734403 Reply
>>734379

>Darksydephil

He pretends to be bad at video games. I've been saying this for years.
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Michael Thorton - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 13:51:31 EST 1PRipo9X No.734415 Reply
>>734410
I dunno, suicide-by-chicken seems like a pretty memorable way to go
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Serah Farron - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 14:18:29 EST HVI+6l0i No.734516 Reply
without spoiling, how's the first hour of this game?

I have very fond memories of getting high while playing Horizon Zero Dawn for the first time. those first 2 hours blew my fucking mind.
Monster Hunter World was also amazing after smoking but I purposefully waited until I was 30 hours in because I knew that first hour was a confusing slog.

I only have one chance a year to get high and game. if you had to choose, would you want to experience the start of Sekiro while high or wait until a few hours in?
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The Blob - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 16:16:31 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734519 Reply
>>734516
There are a few good moments at the start of the game but I'd probably wait. The game is hard to learn at first. Once you get a few hours in and start to become familiar with the combat it becomes really rewarding and you get a lot of different areas to explore.
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Liu Kang - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:06:32 EST wU38gR3Q No.734525 Reply
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The main problem with the game is that it barely gives you half an inkling of where the fuck to go and it's not as cohesive an environment as Dark Souls where you see big towers and flying buttresses in the distance and eventually find yourself upon them.

I ended up taking side paths and back doors OVER the intended path, which I still don't fucking know where it is and ended up at the Corrupted Monk Apparition, still one of the last bosses in the game before I'd even found the second fucking boss to kill. I even missed the key to Lady Butterfly's room lol
went straight to the Ashina Depths


I've mastered the basics of the fight but I simply don't have enough health to beat out the ENORMOUS health bar and OUTRAGEOUS posture regeneration. I've even become pretty damn good at countering both the grievous swipes and the thrust, but the goddamn surprise uppercut gets me almost every time. I can deflect it if I know it's coming, but I basically never do.
Anyway that brings me to my essential advice for this game:

The Death Kanji is eyecatching, but....
NEVER FUCKING LOOK AT THE DEATH KANJI.
NEVER FUCKING LOOK AT THE DEATH KANJI.

Look at your opponent's arm, their weapon, their stance. That's the only thing that matters in discerning how you need to counter the grievous blow they're winding up. Untrain your stupid eyes from looking at the flashy red thing or see your guts splattered upon the ground.

NEVER LOOK DIRECTLY AT THE DEATH KANJI

NEVER
FUCKING
LOOK
AT
THE
DEATH
KANJI
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The Blob - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:16:02 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734526 Reply
>>734525
>I've mastered the basics of the fight
Are you sure? I've mastered the basics and I recently beat NG+2 without dying. Once you get quick with your deflects and timing it's not hard to kill bosses without getting hit. If you're having problems with their posture regenerating there are literally two different ways to deal with that. The first (noob) way is to damage the bosses health down low, lower health means slower posture regeneration. The second (better) way is to always be either attacking or deflecting every second of the fight. Once you can do that you can phase bosses like Ashina or Genichiro in about thirty seconds.

Here is a helpful tip
>attack boss until they get a deflect on you
>after deflecting one of your attacks, most bosses only have 2 or 3 moves they will do immediately after, learn the timing of these perfectly and deflect every one
>once they're done their little combo attack again until they deflect you
>repeat a few times
>kill boss easily.
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Liu Kang - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:29:30 EST wU38gR3Q No.734528 Reply
>>734526
>Are you sure?
Yeah, and I've done the math. With only one attack power buff and not knowing any absolute cheese strats or using consumables it's over a 12 minute fight, which is fucking insane. I'm not supposed to be where I am but I've been in a cabin in the woods for the past week with no internet so I couldn't look up where the fuck else I need to go in the mean time. I walked around a bit, actually did Lady Butterfly which was a cakewalk given how punishing my path has been. 3 attempts.

I can actually perfect deflect everything if I have a favorable position in the arena, including the uppercut, but as with every Soulsborne game the real enemy is the camera, and the spinning combo pushes me so far back that eventually I end up pushed up against something and can't see shit, then since the uppercut timing is so much faster than the rhythm of the rest of the fight I get hit because I can't see the
Naginata's position anymore. I can get her down to 20%, if I just do another boss I can finish her.

Apparently I should have read what Divine Confetti did and I would have had a much easier time with it.

But seriously I need to watch other people play this game until I can understand the world layout better. I'm not remotely where I should be at this point in the game.
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Zoe Castillo - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:56:12 EST uH1vzJOG No.734535 Reply
I gave in and bought it, I was going to wait until the price went down like I do for pretty much any other game but I saw it while at best buy and couldn't resist any longer.
Man this game is HARD, and this is coming from a seasoned souls player, but goddamn is the combat satisfying and a complete step away from the souls formula. The whole game is actually, being able to jump, the verticality, and I was worried that the combat was going to remind me of Nioh too much but it doesnt at all, feels completely different.
I just beat General Naomori which I think is the first actual boss of the game and I dont feel like I even dipped my toes into what this is yet.
Any tips for a beginner? Unlocking more training with the undead guy near the sculptor helped a lot in beating the general especially the sweeping attack counter, also the fact that I snuck around him and knocked his first death blow off that way which felt kind of cheesy but also felt like how you're supposed to approach things
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Ridley - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 00:02:40 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734540 Reply
>>734535
Pro tips for beginners:
Mikiri counter is a mandatory skill, get it immediately
Your charge attack doesn't do much additional damage, it's the same as an enemy thrust attack it breaks guards, that's it. Two normal sword strikes do way more damage than a charged thrust attack.
Every attack (other than the perilous ones) can be guarded and deflected, no matter how big it looks.
CONSECUTIVE DEFLECT. There is no cool down on deflecting attacks like there is parrying in dark souls. If an enemy does a flurry of combos you can deflect every single blow and do a massive amount of poise damage, it took me too long to figure this out :( (the cenitpede minibosses basically force you to learn this mechanic and you can kill them in ten seconds if you are pro)
For most enemies you should never dodge, deflect everything
When you get the prosthetic follow up skill, the shuriken follow up attack is amazing
Combat arts mostly suck (the ones that close distance like shadowrush and nightjar slash are okay, whirl wind slash is okay on groups of enemies), especially for bosses. The damage you get in isn't much more than if you'd used that time on regular sword swings.
If you misjudge the timing for a deflect just keep tapping the button, you get lucky with lots of enemies. This can be a bad habit to get into though.
Mid air attacks do significantly less damage, only do them after you get a jump off a sweep attack.
For bosses when they do a perilous attack, as another poster said, ignore the red flashing kanji and look at the boss's movements so you can tell if they're doing a thrust or sweep attack, they mix it up a lot. Genichiro will mostly force you to learn this anyway.
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Gannondorf - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 00:13:00 EST hWiQ7Qng No.734541 Reply
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>>734540
>Mikiri counter is a mandatory skill
Technically not, but I definitely wouldn't go without it. Well timed and well aimed dodge rolls also avoid the attacks that Mikiri counters but you get a big chunk of posture damage and potential counterattack with Mikiri.

>Every attack (other than the perilous ones) can be guarded and deflected
Not true for guard, true for deflection. Corrupted Monk's uppercut slash can only be deflected, there are probably others as well but that's the one I know for sure.

>Mid air attacks do significantly less damage, only do them after you get a jump off a sweep attack.
If you time them right you can get get more quick attacks in, making up the difference. But everything else you said still applies. Don't jump for no reason, it'll bite you in the ass.

>For bosses when they do a perilous attack, as another poster said, ignore the red flashing kanji and look at the boss's movements
So much this.
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Ridley - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 00:21:29 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734542 Reply
>>734541
I consider it mandatory because the window for the mikiri counter is waaay bigger than deflecting or dodging a thrust attack. It's easier to do and does more damage, it's better in every way. Tbh they should have just made it so you couldn't deflect thrusts and made mikiri a base skill but whatever.
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Ryu Hoshi - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 07:04:57 EST ON5DvPVH No.734567 Reply
>>734381
What I meant was, has anyone else been killed by a fucking chicken?
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Zoe Castillo - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 19:46:51 EST uH1vzJOG No.734595 Reply
Couple of questions since i'm getting my ass handed to me. I'm fighting the chained ogre right now who is completely fucking my shit with that grab attack, but i've noticed every now and then a greenish arrow will appear above his head, what does that mean?
I also started that 3 years ago segment and got up to the drunkard boss guy. Should I hold off on that? He seems really hard and very frightening
and how the hell am I supposed to deal with groups of enemies? just cheese it by picking them off with stealth and getting the hell out of there?
I feel like theres a lot about this combat that just isnt clicking with me yet
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Captain Price - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 20:05:40 EST viScSjHS No.734596 Reply
>>734595
>He seems really hard and very frightening

He is but learn his fight well, there are more of those big guys and your skills will serve you down the line.
Keeping your ally alive as long as possible makes it a whole lot easier, but if he dies just focus and learn the fight. It doesn't matter if he dies or not so if you win, sweet.

Make sure you've got your basic prosthetics before proceeding. You wanna have the shuriken, axe and flamethrower thing before you get into the meat of the game.
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Dark Queen - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:04:11 EST HNYPA77y No.734599 Reply
I get the feeling that I would be absolute donkey shit at this game, but I want it so bad. I really wanna test myself against this game even though I bet I'd rage quit a couple hours in and never play it again. But I'll never know if I don't try.
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Captain Price - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:21:16 EST viScSjHS No.734600 Reply
>>734599
If you're willing to go to some darker places of the internet the game is only like 9 gigs or less to download if you want to test the water.

But if it really sucks you in, do the right thing, bruh. Fromsoft totally deserves all the moneys they've got coming to them for this masterpiece.
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Vectorman - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 22:22:18 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734604 Reply
>>734595
Honestly the chained ogre is a bitch, I still have a bit of a problem with him. He has three different grabs with different timings to dodge. His dive grab you can jump to avoid. The strategy I found that worked was to bait him into an attack, dodge away, hit him two times, then dodge away. If you're patient and keep that pattern you can mostly avoid damage. Also if you hit him with the fire barrel it stuns him for a bit to get some extra damage in.

For the drunk guy, those enemies are pretty hard. The strategy that I used in my first playthrough was to kill all the normal enemies first. One of the tricks to dealing with groups is to run away and make them get some distance. For example I would backstab one of the shield guys, then immediately run to the far archer and kill him, then run back past the enemies chasing me to the second shield guy (he's slow) and kill him, then try to pick off the last two. Keep moving and don't let them cluster around you. If you maintain some distance and kite them, usually one of the group of enemies will charge you while the others slowly creep up, you just have to rapidly kill the charging enemy before the others get to you. Once you've taken care of all the normal enemies, bait Juzo toward the NPC by the pond and he will automatically aggro. He's way easier to fight with the npc on your side.
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Yuri - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 22:48:10 EST uH1vzJOG No.734605 Reply
>>734604
Yeah I beat the ogre right after I posted that, pretty much doing exactly what you said. I forgot I already got the flame attachment for the arm and it made it relatively easier. I still think his grabs are complete horseshit though they've got some ridiculous hitboxes. Him and the general right after got me up to 4 prayer beads so I was able to get my first upgrade. One thing I can say for sure about this game is when you go 1v1 against stronger enemies, like the general, it really feels like an intense sword battle its pretty amazing. You've got to be both highly aggressive but still on the defense I love it
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Companion Cube - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 03:21:35 EST ON5DvPVH No.734609 Reply
>>734595
Chained Ogre is afraid of fire, so fight him near the bonfire on top of the hill overlooking his spot.
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Samanosuke Akechi - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 05:58:11 EST 6VvmZOON No.734613 Reply
>>734595
If you have access to the Hirata estate then you can find a shinobi tool that makes the chained ogre much easier. Don't feel bad about struggling with the ogre though, I think it's set up to be tough to try and get you used to the general difficulty of the game.
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Captain Price - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 13:25:50 EST viScSjHS No.734634 Reply
>>734609
Fire is also quite good for many encounters where you're going to finish them by health rather than posture. The trick is just hitting them twice in the short burn window without getting smashed.
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Vectorman - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 18:28:05 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734645 Reply
>>734634
or using oil first. If you throw oil at enemies you can inflict most of them with burn in one hit of the flame barrel.
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Lich King - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 16:33:52 EST uH1vzJOG No.734676 Reply
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LADY GODDAMN BUTTERFLY
FUCK THAT OLD CUNT
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Buck Bumble - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 18:36:08 EST aqeMNVi5 No.734677 Reply
>>734676
Uh I missed the area where you get the key to the lady butterfly room and the path I took had minibosses harder than Lady Butterfly.

It was so goddamn refreshing to have a boss I could take down from posture for once. Fuck those butterfiles tho. Honestly snap peas are overrated for this fight though. You don't need them, though they will help you stay on track to take her posture down whereas the health bar would take a bit longer.

The real motherfuckers are the one-two punch of Lone Shadow Longswordsman followed by Snake-eyes Shirahagi like 2 minutes later. Absolute bastards. Apparently an optional path tho if you aren't like me and don't know where the fuck to be.
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Buck Bumble - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 18:43:51 EST aqeMNVi5 No.734678 Reply
>>734677
So I guess the point of what I'm saying is that with all the journalists and whimpy gürlimen asking for an easy mode on supposed behalf of the "disabled" gamers who never fucking asked for it are completely mistaken.

The standard path IS the easy mode. There's a harder one down that hole, past Lone Shadow and Snake Eyes and if you skip bosses on the way there it will fuck you UP.
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Tommy Vercetti - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 21:51:28 EST uH1vzJOG No.734680 Reply
>>734677
where even is the other path? hirata estate seems like a pretty straight shot
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Nights - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 22:07:09 EST aqeMNVi5 No.734682 Reply
>>734680
There's a branch you can grapple to behind the guy who rings the alarm. I was gonna boot up the game and check for you but my save is corrupted now lol.

Time to experience the early game and know what I'm doing for once.
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Tommy Vercetti - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 23:11:02 EST uH1vzJOG No.734691 Reply
Oh my god I just beat Genichiro after doing him like 15 times I didn't even know he had a THIRD fucking phase with lightning and I managed to get him down with one gourd left holy shit my hands are shaking. The ashina expert mini boss guy was pretty fun too, but really easy to manipulate into doing his attacks which made him a quick fight Guess i'm gonna head into the resevoir now
You know what enemies are really annoying are those nightjar guys on the rooftops of ashina castle, especially the flaming ones that divebomb your ass
the flame barrel works great against them though
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Ashley Graham - Sun, 07 Apr 2019 21:39:27 EST PinRtxjv No.734719 Reply
>>733803
Demon of Hatred took me literally five hours.

Now the final boss is a wall I just can't get past. Feels bad man.
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Kazuya Mishima - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 02:30:19 EST aqeMNVi5 No.734743 Reply
WTF? The second version of Corrupted Monk is WAY easier than the ethereal one who takes roughly no significant posture damage ever. What gives. Was I supposed to use an item or some shit?
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Leon Kennedy - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 05:28:34 EST XCHiW7gO No.734748 Reply
>>734743

Ya I really struggled with the first one. I did the "run in, hit, run out" technique and still went through all my heals. Second one, if you're quick enough you can get a deathblow from the branch above where he spawns. It's possible to get a second deathblow too but it's really inconsistent.
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Lance Bean - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 08:47:24 EST 93voU8ra No.734751 Reply
Anyone else keep getting this thread and the Kenshi thread mixed up, and having trouble figuring out what the fuck they're talking about, until, "OH. Oh, yeah. Different game"

This has happened to me at least 5 times
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Krystal - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 13:16:12 EST uH1vzJOG No.734761 Reply
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I almost came.
That was definitely the hardest fight i've done so far, this guys a fucking lunatic and the tracking on his grab attack is nuts. Basically the only way to avoid it is to back step
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Gravelord Nito - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 14:35:27 EST ON5DvPVH No.734762 Reply
Has anyone here dared to ring the RAPE BELL yet?
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Ms. Pac-Man - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:21:17 EST ZOu/8D1Y No.734766 Reply
>>734762
The demon bell at senpou temple?
It just gives you an item that when carried makes enemies more powerful. If you use the item it gets rid of the buff.
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James Sunderland - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:52:06 EST IMq1LVU/ No.734776 Reply
>>734762
Yeah I used it to farm end game materials, mostly fulminated mercury and uh grave wax. I didn't notice it make normal enemies much stronger but it does increase drop rates. Supposedly it makes bosses quite a bit harder.
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Ling Xiaoyu - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:55:29 EST uH1vzJOG No.734777 Reply
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From really had some fun with this boss didn't they
Not only does it throw its shit at you and fart in your face but after you rip its goddamn head off he gets up and uses it as a weapon. I should have seen that coming, having one death blow is always suspect
I'm getting the hang of his first phase but the second is destroying me I never know when its safe to go in for a couple strikes
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James Randi - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 05:24:49 EST s0c/vOV6 No.734784 Reply
I just got this game after never playing a From Software game.

Jesus christ. I played up to the first actually hard enemys and did so bad I started the wole game over.
Doing better on my second play through still stuck on the first chained ogre and that one gate gaurd you have to kill twice.
The sculptor already has feeble mind......

WTF
Should I just start over?
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Knuckles the Echidna - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:50:58 EST VTsdMV+X No.734804 Reply
>>734786
Yeah when I first saw coin purses at vendors I thought it was pretty stupid since you're essentially buying money but then I realized it's a good way to bank your sen
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 01:06:07 EST bK5KfvBx No.734873 Reply
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Christ, nigga. I was feeling pretty confident going into this game as a huge souls fan.

I feel like it was a sort of meta mechanic to keep enough stuff the same but enough stuff different to specifically fuck with Souls players, in a way that I'm appreciating and enjoying though. Forcing me to git gud at deflecting is awesome. Also I'm a fucking CYBORG, that's awesome.

Anyway, my confidence dropped like a fucking rock once I hit the gatekeeper. It might be just be me but I had a hard tme with that, and having a hard time with the first real boss makes me feel worthless lmao. Now I have to deal with this gay ass bull and it's like on fire, bro.

Also I accidentally killed the guy by that fat fucking drunkard. Can I do anything about it?

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Samanosuke Akechi - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 03:35:28 EST uH1vzJOG No.734876 Reply
>re-exploring ashina castle after getting both ingredients for the little lord
>beat the ogre at the bottom of the castle
>decide to jump in the lake near there because I just got the mibu breathing technique
>theres a FUCKING HEADLESS THERE
>AN UNDERWATER HEADLESS

Jesus christ this game
Also these purple swordsmen guys can eat my ass I hate them so much. That "lone" vilehand fight was a bitch but it seems that as long as you stay on him and be really aggressive he doesn't use his poison punches

>>734873
Little tip for the bull is dont let it chase you, chase it instead, keep trying get around its backside and whack the shit out of its ass. Also firecrackers work well on him if you have unlocked that prosthetic. If you haven't, go back to the gatekeepers arena and there is a merchant there that sells it. Its one of the most useful prosthetics in the game for me
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Master-D - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:45:14 EST YacRuePW No.734885 Reply
>>734873
An effective way to kill the bull is to bait him to charge you, jump away at the last second, hit him a few times in the air, then throw a shuriken as he's winding up to charge again. Rince and repeat. Jumping attacks do almost no damage, so this takes fucking forever, but it's very easy to pull off.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:01:59 EST yNdlHRgY No.734888 Reply
>>734876
>>734885
Hmmm makes sense. He seems to be reacting to being on fire more than my presence, I noticed a lot of his swings don't hit me if I'm up close.

>>734883
Oh good. It was still pretty lame though. I walk around the corner, boss's health bar shows up, and this guy happens to be right in my face. So I panicked and swung and now he's fucking dead like an idiot.
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Tetra - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:21:43 EST TEHUzjBG No.734893 Reply
>>734888

That's realistic. If you were a ninja walking around, looking for a fight as you feel your little hairs tingle, and you turn a corner and theres a nigga there walking at you, he's dead before you can think about it
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Tingle - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:23:33 EST LFPCeVyX No.734951 Reply
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My biggest complaint with this game is its original boss fights are great

However for whatever weird reason this game has A LOT of repeat bosses. if this game ever gets a sequel it needs to borrow inspiration from shit like Okami and Okamiden when creating unique and inspired boss design

Great Ape and the fucking Samurai Jack Season 5 looking mother fucker on Horseback were the best bosses in the game but nowhere near as Eldrich Horror'y as a traditional Dark Souls/Bloodbourne game. Like I am not convinced From Software was trying when they were looking for horrifying boss designs for the game. Where the fuck is Yamata no Orochi
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Ethan Thomas - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:59:02 EST 93voU8ra No.734961 Reply
>>734960
Brazil = Thread Portfolio Guy? This would make so much sense
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Geese Howard - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:12:15 EST HNYPA77y No.734966 Reply
>>734965
If there were separate and independently thinking parts of you, one being the normal person you once were and the other being the mental illness, do you think your mental illness would appreciate being put on display to entertain yourself and others? Seems pretty rude. Put that lunacy away rn.
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Kefka - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 22:33:24 EST XTkbRuzQ No.734971 Reply
>>734965
I didnt think there could be somebody worse than four. Get some help man. Either you're retarted, enthusiastic, or drunk.
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ABIRD - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:02:55 EST RGQSPa4g No.734975 Reply
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>>734965
Wew leddy
So butthurt you had to make a video.
topppest of keks
fuck outta here.
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Mario - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:15:16 EST uH1vzJOG No.734978 Reply
Stuck on Owl at Ashina Castle
Any tips? I saw Tyrannicons video but that strategy is extremely cheesy and i'd prefer not to go that route. I think i'm just gonna have to keep dying over and over until I learn his rhythm but I haven't even gotten him down to one death blow yet. This dude just eats up your posture and if he hits you you can say goodbye to most your health. Also seems like its going to be a long fight because theres very few chances to hit him in his moveset. Theres firecrackers but I feel like I should save those for emergencies and his second health bar
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Balrog - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:48:35 EST FL0qkv/Z No.734980 Reply
>>734965
You should have to single-handedly pay all of what Kirt needs with your mother's money for how often you shipost and clog up multiple boards with your garbage threads.
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Kolyat Krios - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 04:52:23 EST R8xVP9gf No.734988 Reply
>>734978
Hes all about picking your spots. Catch him in the middle of moves, use your shruikens then follow up attack. When he breaks your posture, hes going to go for a grab, so when you lose posture, back up or sidestep. Phase 2 is more of the same, but there is an added gimmick I want you to find out for yourself.

Dont get overaggressive, or he will throw firecrackers to regain control of the pace of the fight. Just parry and the death blow will come faster than you think.
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Mario - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:29:47 EST uH1vzJOG No.734998 Reply
>>734988
I beat him last night and I actually feel like his second phase was easier and quicker than the first, his smoke bomb attack leaves a window for two or three good slashes and the poison you don't have to block or dodge like the shurikens, just run
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James Randi - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:24:33 EST s0c/vOV6 No.735068 Reply
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>>734965
It's funny because he probably does fuck his dog and is embarrassed about it
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:45:32 EST bK5KfvBx No.735082 Reply
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I don't know why this is happening, but monitor punches and chair squeaks make good drum samples.
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Tingle - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:42:36 EST Mgzcu3jG No.735109 Reply
>>735088
This lady fondling the balls has a very yellow arm. Not sure I see the resemblance in skin color. Can anyone explain to me why yellow is used for Asians? I don't see it, doesn't make much sense. Who are the yellow people? They seem pretty much tan
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Mr. Game & Watch - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:49:42 EST Uwi4AhNu No.735119 Reply
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>>735109
At first I wanted to be like, really? Of all the things going on in this thread, this is what you had to chime in about?

But fuck it. I took a sample from the asian girl's arm and blew it up into a color swatch. Does this look yellow to you? To me, it looks a little orange-ish, maybe even closer to tea-colored.

As for the actual reason as to why we label asians as "yellow", it's probably leftover social residue from WWII and our historical need to classify people into primary colors.
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Sonia Belmont - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:36:58 EST 1PRipo9X No.735123 Reply
>>735119
I think those sorts of 'scientific' racial classifications originated more in the 19th century to justify, like, the massive use of coolie labor everywhere, the opium wars, all those famines that just happened to coincide with the British takeover of India, etc. But yeah, WW2 probably did a lot to solidify it.
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Servbot - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:38:40 EST FL0qkv/Z No.735127 Reply
I've only played for about 8 hours now, just enough to get through Hirata Estate and up to Ashina Castle where the world seemingly starts to open up, so I don't have much to add to the discussion so far.
But this game is fucking great, and the only things from the souls series I truly miss in Sekiro are player messages and bloodstains.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:18:46 EST bK5KfvBx No.735129 Reply
>>735127
> the only things from the souls series I truly miss in Sekiro are player messages and bloodstains.
Same. It was a cozy feature.
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Big Daddy - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:40:53 EST uH1vzJOG No.735139 Reply
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>Final boss has four fucking phases
is this a goddamn joke, From

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Baraka - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:31:46 EST IMq1LVU/ No.735147 Reply
I've been attempting a playthrough without ever upgrading health or attack. Wow is it fucking hard, I mean I breezed through NG+4 and this is just destroying me. You don't realize how important those upgrades are until you go without them. I managed to beat Lady Butterfly, Gyobou, and Genichiro, and am currently stuck fighting the Corrupted Monk. Been killing all the minibosses too, most recent being O'rin. I skipped the Glutton guy in the misty forest though, fuck him. All his attacks one shot you and a lot of his attacks will instantly break your posture even if you guard them. Corrupted monk isn't nearly as bad, just has a lot of health. I'm getting used to having to deflect every single attack an enemy makes. Guarding is for noobs.

Also I just wanted to say my favorite boss is Owl in the past. Imo the best boss in the game. The two things he does that really make it for me are how he purposefully disrupts your view with his spirit pet and flash bombs and such. And I think two of his attacks, he will actually cancel his attacks and switch to a different attack depending on your behaviour. One of his attacks he raises his sword up above his head as if to slam it down, and if you just stand there he will. But if you try to circle around behind him, he will cancel it and do a spinning attack. And if you run away, he will cancel it and do a jumping lunge attack. It's fucking brutal, he punishes you so severely for doing anything other than facing him, while he himself jumps all over the fucking place and does everything in his power to trip you up and distract you. He is the true ninja boss of the game.
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Zerg - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:37:46 EST uH1vzJOG No.735246 Reply
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>>735222
I just beat him. I had to look at several strategy videos just to get an idea of how to properly fight this guy.

I think my biggest problem was the first 20 fucking times I tried to face him I was rushing, this really is the kind of fight where you have to be focused and pick your openings carefully, slowly chipping off his health and trying to get every mikiri you can get to build up posture. The final phase, which I only got to a handful of times before beating him, is actually one of the easiest IMO. Its just the third phase but with two more attacks added on, one being the lightning smash which, if timed right, can rip off a good chunk of his health which is why I think its the easiest. I'm starting NG+ immediately and I'm definitely going to try to platinum this bitch since I'm pretty close to getting it anyways. I should have gotten the all bosses trophy but apparently I didn't properly do the giant carp kill, I guess you're supposed to go to the apes domain afterwards and look at his corpse.

I'd give the game a solid 9/10 and I think it rivals both bloodborne and dark souls 1. The combat is so tremendously fun and I feel like if I go back to the souls games i'm going to be able to parry like a madman. My only small complaint is that I wish there was just a bit more variety in bosses, although when you face repeats the game throws a couple curve balls at you, like the two apes, so it doesnt feel like you're just facing the same boss.
Love the game, love it so much.
I hope they release some DLC some day, From has a history of some really good add ons for these games
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:07:52 EST yNdlHRgY No.735247 Reply
>>735246
I feel like the parry window is significantly bigger in Sekiro than it is in Dark Souls. I felt like Dark Souls was extremely unforgiving about that in particular.

This post was edited by Therm0ptic on 17-04-2019 15:08:26
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:14:19 EST yNdlHRgY No.735248 Reply
>>735247
> I feel like I felt like I feel like I felt like I feel like I felt like I feel like I felt like
Sorry.
nb
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:55:47 EST yNdlHRgY No.735303 Reply
>>735284
And you may know more than I do. I'm speaking solely from personal experience and I could never deflect at the right time in Dark Souls so I literally just gave up parrying all together like a fucking faggot.

With Sekiro, on the other hand, I've never really had trouble with it so it feels like it must have been changed to easy mode.
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Garrett - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:00:32 EST uH1vzJOG No.735304 Reply
>>735303
>literally just gave up parrying all together like a fucking faggot
Same. I sort of got a handle on bloodbornes parrying but like sekiro the windows seem to be more forgiving
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Locke - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:55:08 EST IMq1LVU/ No.735323 Reply
>>735304
I think it's because parrying in Sekiro is basically mandatory. As for the accessibility debate, there are some things disabled people just can't do, that's why they are disabled. A disabled person cannot experience this game like you and I do, they just can't. Adding an easier difficulty still wouldn't allow them to experience the game, it'll just turn the game into a walking simulator which at that point they may as well just watch a let's play. I'm pretty against 'accessibility' in games. Plus plenty of ACTUAL disabled people find ways to play challenging games anyway and that's way better. I feel like the people whining for accessibility in games aren't disabled people they're just idiot noobs.

I'm still continueing my Sekiro run with no attack or health upgrades. Currently have something like 24 beads and 5 memories unused. I've killed the corrupted monk and the folding screen monkeys, just got to the guardian ape. Hope some of his attacks don't one shot me.
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Radical Rex - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:49:32 EST y6sr7jqm No.735325 Reply
>>735323
I havent looked through the thread so this may havr already been mentioned... but I see this alot that parrying is mandatory. I dunno if I wanna do a playthrough with no parrying to prove a point or anything but the Shinobi Prosthetic helps a lot and is basically your DnD RPG mechanic of easily doing damage on a boss. In Bloodborne you got the Bell for Gascgoine and Cocktails for BSBeast and that was it. Every boss, every enemy has some sort of trick that you can exploit because of your prosthetic.

In terms if difficulty, this one honestly felt the most fair to me. O never got that pissed at dying, I always knew I would eventually get it.
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Lee Chaolan - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:08:21 EST IMq1LVU/ No.735327 Reply
>>735325
Yeah I really like that each boss has an item/prosthetic weakness, well most of them. The corrupt monk basically get's destroyed by the lazulite axe (that does a snap seed effect when you use it). Some bosses I really think you wouldn't be able to kill without deflecting though. The two centipede minibosses require you to learn consecutive deflects and I don't know how you would do those bosses without deflecting them. Some bosses that do quick combos too (Genichiro, Ishin Ashina) would be really hard to do without deflections. Oh and then there's that samurai miniboss in the Ashina castle dojo who only does the Ashina cross, you pretty much have to deflect him to.

I suppose in theory you could do the entire game without deflects if you used some cheese shit at some points, but I don't know why you would. The game isn't build to not deflect things, quite the opposite some bosses/minibosses are purposefully built around requiring you to deflect.
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Sweet Tooth - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:19:45 EST o/10Saau No.735333 Reply
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Sekiro needs more customisation options.
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Jame Soloman - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:28:13 EST FL0qkv/Z No.735334 Reply
>>735333
There's five other games if you want to fashionsoulsborne (and Nioh if you need a weeb fix), I'm fine with how Sekiro is.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:27:26 EST bK5KfvBx No.735335 Reply
>>735324
Yeah this is really nice. That's what was so discouraging about it in Dark Souls that I just gave up. I suppose it makes sense it would be that way since it's so much more fundamental to the combat in this game. Speaking of, I thoroughly enjoy the combat in this game, but it's still so hard for me to remember blocking speeds up recovery instead of letting your guard down.

>>735333
Honestly I would like some color selection or something at least, but not every game has to have every feature, it just has to be the creators' vision. It reminds me of a few years ago when people would complain every time a game wasn't an open world sandbox game.

Now I'm not that far into the game but what I really would like to see is prosthetic upgrades similar to how Boss' souls could become unique tools.
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Yoshi - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 03:43:50 EST vPJEZeJr No.735344 Reply
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>>735333
Ninja Gaiden Sigma had unlockable outfits for NG+ like pic related. It's pretty modest and simple compared to the main outfit, but it felt so rewarding because it was proof that "yeah, I beat this shit".
I wish Sekiro had something like that.

>>735335
>blocking speeds up recovery instead of letting your guard down
motherfucker! I'm approaching the end-game and I forgot this too.
in Dark Souls it was the complete opposite.
why From?
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Lee Chaolan - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:32:07 EST IMq1LVU/ No.735359 Reply
>>735344
I didn't find holding block ot restore posture very useless until I tried my no-upgrade run.

Even on NG+4 holding block isn't helpful most of the time. When your posture does break, most attacks you can recover and roll out of before being hit. Some bosses I actually let break my posture on purpose because I know it's a safe attack and it resets your posture.

Also protip: your posture will NEVER break if you get a deflection. If you deflect every attack you can keep your posture bar full and be fine.
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Goomba - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:07:33 EST fn9MIBY7 No.735362 Reply
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Man NG+ is easy as shit so far I only played a couple hours yesterday and I'm already at mibu village and haven't even died yet
Apparently you can get different bosses near the end game depending on the choices you make so I'm excited for those. I never got the chance to fight Emma the first time around and only fought Owl at Ashina Castle, not Owl Father. I think there's another Isshin fight too
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:19:47 EST 7mvVzPyQ No.735363 Reply
>>735344
Yeah this is one of those things where I felt like it was a sort of meta mechanic specifically to fuck with souls players.
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Edgar Ross - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:01:34 EST JAfM/azk No.735387 Reply
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I'm considering playing either this or Nioh, what do you guys recommend and why?

Ruroken put me in the mood for oriental blade shit
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Four - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:15:30 EST OWgeNOs7 No.735389 Reply
>>735387
Get Nioh. You can probably get it for half the price of Sekiro maybe even more.
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Carl Johnson - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:32:43 EST fn9MIBY7 No.735392 Reply
>>735387
I've played both.
While Four is right about the price and Nioh is a good game Sekiro is just so much better in all aspects. Nioh is a wannabe souls game, a good one, but it lacks that Fromsoft polish. Sekiro has a better atmosphere, more fun gameplay and a better story and characters
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Jack Rex - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:47:19 EST FL0qkv/Z No.735393 Reply
>>735392
Agreed
I'm really looking forward to seeing how Nioh 2 will be, since it won't be in development hell for fifteen years or however long the first one was. And since they mostly nailed the combat imo, they'll be able to put more focus on the things that were really lacking in Nioh 1 such as enemy and level variety.
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Crash Bandicoot - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 14:03:03 EST uH1vzJOG No.735395 Reply
>>735393
Yeah that was one of my biggest complaints with Nioh and seems to be the same with everyone that played it. Sekiro is guilty of some repeat bosses but nowhere near as bad as nioh, you even have to go back and do certain areas several times in one playthrough with not much changing. Seems like all the variety went into the weapons and armor.
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Zero - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 14:35:36 EST XTkbRuzQ No.735399 Reply
>>735395
Sekiro will probably drop to 20 in like a year. Most fromsoft games do. I get a feeling sekiros going to be a GreatestHits game like bloodborne.
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Clyde - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:22:42 EST fn9MIBY7 No.735448 Reply
Man, owl father is fucking hard. Are you kidding me with that distraction owl in the second phase? It's so cheap. Literally flies across your screen to block your view of shit
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Hope Estheium - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:35:54 EST R8xVP9gf No.735451 Reply
>>735448
I love that move. Every time he does it I laugh especially when he dashes through the smoke to do his cheeky bomb throw
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Hope Estheium - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:36:57 EST R8xVP9gf No.735452 Reply
>>735451
Oh. Youre talking about the other fight.

My statement still stands for His first fight
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Nathan Spencer - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:08:59 EST AOieOv6E No.735524 Reply
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I just killed best girl... nooooooooooooo
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Kung Lao - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:56:46 EST Zj1+4dMG No.735527 Reply
>>735525
nigga, wtf did they tell you about posting anime. thats why you go your own board.
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Bad Mr. Frosty - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:06:26 EST XTkbRuzQ No.735528 Reply
>>735527
Eh I give him a pass. At least its not a sarcastic anime girl
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Gray Fox - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:42:02 EST I+d0TStq No.735530 Reply
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>>735528
Nah this nigga spends 3 hrs a day compiling unrelated faggotry to append to his shitposts. Will never deserve a pass for anything.
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Four - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 12:46:19 EST NmIRzIal No.735531 Reply
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>>735527
Actually nobody said anything to me I decided to stop on my own. But hey, maybe if you threw a big enough tantrum you might actually get me banned. Good luck.
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Bad Mr. Frosty - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:02:22 EST XTkbRuzQ No.735537 Reply
>>735531
You really dont remember when your anime pics got changed to cute animals?
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Mr. Game & Watch - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:36:11 EST QZS4MoNv No.735551 Reply
>>735531

you're either the least perceptive person on earth or so deep in denial you're actually convinced everyone hasn't been trashing on your your garbage anime posts for a year
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Sora - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:48:21 EST pQ4wNkvu No.735552 Reply
I really like the setting but i really have no interest in Dark Souls and Souls-like games.
I don't know man, i feel like some kind of fucking alien whenever i discuss those games with other people: "oh my god it was amazing wtf best game ever" and instead i just stare at them and try to recall what was so amazing about the game in vain.
I won't say "those games suck ass" because that's not the case, i just didn't find them fun to play, rewarding or memorable: Dark Souls 1 felt just like King's Field on the PSX to me; clunky and unispired, but im glad other people can enjoy those games
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Bad Mr. Frosty - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 07:00:40 EST eXye2g9V No.735576 Reply
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>>735552
i guess you need to feel some sort of synchronicity with the subject content, lore/setting and credos. Though that could be said for any game really - any recreational experience. I could outline what i enjoy about dark souls 1+3, and Sekrio, not in any way saying its perfect, but thats not to say itll find any ground in you.

theres a moody atmosphere, a feeling of mustering an effort to struggle in the face of helplessness and despair, a sense of eventually honing yourself to take on a progressively brutal and bleak world. Not to mention choice aesthetics in terms of gothic architecture and skybox vistas of a world of decaying, untold layers of history, almost unknowable but tantalising with the globules of cryptic lore

it doesnt speak to anyone - it mightnt even speak to half the people who played DS3 (more specifically). They might just be happy enough trumping our outgimmicking people in online play.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:22:18 EST QHTBwrJa No.735583 Reply
>>735531
>Actually nobody said anything to me I decided to stop on my own.

i sandwiched your posts and that made you stop you big fat liar
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Four - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 02:25:44 EST WgH4DpEQ No.735624 Reply
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>>735583
You still technically didn’t say anything to me though.
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Ignatio Mobius - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 03:27:04 EST FL0qkv/Z No.735627 Reply
>>735624
>heh, well ACKSHUALLY
And you were literally warned by a mod to cease your animefaggotry in your last post, dumbass.

Also
>Travels to Japan
>Wastes time posting on an imageboard
shiggidy diggidy, you obnoxious cunt.
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Jill Valentine - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 05:16:25 EST 93voU8ra No.735629 Reply
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>>735624
Aw yeah, nice move on the day-long chillout ban. Well-moderated, good sir. That's the kind of stuff that makes daddy forget about his problems.

>>735627
I've lived in Japan around 5 years now and see a lot of his type come through. Usually wearing some ridiculous animal hat with ears, bent neck, slumped shoulders, looking even more awkward here than in their home country, with a confused and sometimes slightly irritable expression on the face, phone out and looking at it frequently to escape the shame of being in a country they obsess over and are finally visiting but still feel deeply uncomfortable in and slightly disappointed by.

Was staying in a capsule in Tokyo for a few days (where all the weebs go first) and there was this guy in the capsule next door who was always in there. Some weeby fat greasy American kid in his early to mid 20s, obviously traveling alone. Every time I came back for a few minutes to change clothes or get some shit, he was just sitting in there on his laptop. Probably avatarfagging on an imageboard. It was probably Four.
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Razputin Aquato - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 07:47:12 EST vrQiXcHX No.735632 Reply
>>735629
Dude was probably hung over and worn out from partying like a machine at maid cafes and techno clubs all night. What you didnt see while you were sleeping was him throwing squid jerky at a Yakuza and saying "fuck the last train" as he orders more whiskey for the harem of cosplay bitches who joined him at the club.

On his computer? Of course. Even if hes hung over, hes gotta manage his figma export business to perpetually party and travel in the way he does.

What do you do. Teach English to rich kids? Pfff. The weeb laughs at your lack of experience in his domain.
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Jill Valentine - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:08:16 EST 93voU8ra No.735634 Reply
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>>735632
Maid cafes are a place where you can enjoy coffee and dessert at inflated prices while being served by high school girls, and the clubs are identical copies of US clubs, playing the exact same terrible music, except with Japanese people that come up to ask you "WHERE ARE YOU FROM" and then you tell them and they say "AHHHHH, (COUNTRYNAME) ... DO YOU LIKE JAPAN" soon to be followed by "WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE JAPANESE FOOD". It's fucking riveting. You have to get blackout drunk for it to be remotely fun.

The yakuza are not so bad ... especially if you compliment them on their tattoos they like you. Generally peaceful... just yankee types. As a rule they don't fuck with civilians. They've given me free booze at festivals because they love foreigners who love festivals (they're super-traditional, seeing themselves as noble guardians of Japanese Culture) and they love to get fucked up. One tried to kiss my girlfriend when I was taking a picture of them, but fortunately we got away unscathed. Super drunk yakuza at a local festival. Got an expensive cab back home, went into work drunk and taught students who I'd seen at the festival the night before. God, I'm going to miss Japanese festivals. The fucking best. If you want to really experience Japan, come in autumn and hit some really local festivals ... get shitfaced on the street in a crowd doing strange ritualistic things you don't understand. It's still safe but very foreign, a rare thing to experience these days.

And damnit, I'll have you know, this paper sensei teaches English to middle-class kids. If rich kids end up in my schools they probably told their parents to fuck off with the cram schools>>735632
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Sagat - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:02:38 EST BWeDRnkT No.735636 Reply
>>735624
Finally!. That being said, this is good modding. Was warned, fucker kept pushing and then banned. Good job DrWorm.
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Lord of Shadowgate - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:35:08 EST mGbkwIJ+ No.735644 Reply
Could they have made the dragons homecoming ending any more convoluted I mean holy shit how would someone even find this one without a guide
but Kuro making sweet rice balls for Sekiro, nigga that's fuckin kawaii
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Chun-Li - Fri, 26 Apr 2019 08:33:20 EST qtSFEQvF No.735717 Reply
Only up to the bull but having fun. I like that death is less punishing. Being able to only grind skills instead of stats is an interesting change of pace. And as someone who hates item management I like that there is no armor.
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honk - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 17:22:05 EST hRfsG87y No.735803 Reply
>>735801
He only got a day ban and is shitposting as we speak. Just ignore him. nb.
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Dr. Ivo Robotnik - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:35:02 EST Mf7v5hHo No.735810 Reply
>>735629

Off topic: If I wanted to travel to Japan, how expensive would it be if I went for a week?
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Tommy Vercetti - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:09:46 EST NzFXXqPm No.735811 Reply
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>>735810
See >>>/vroom/35625
It can be cheap if you go at the right times and avoid expensive events (eg. Tokyo Olympics 2020). You can get a JR train-pass that gives you pre-paid travel for a week.
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E. Honda - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 21:50:26 EST Mf7v5hHo No.735822 Reply
>>735811

Thanks for the link dude. I was supposed to go this summer, but my friends wanted to go to Vietnam instead. It sucks that the price will skyrocket during the Olympics too.
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Mario - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 07:39:07 EST 3/DfeyoB No.735847 Reply
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>>733803
>start game
>tutorial-prompts in the face
>continue playing
>forced to talk to a npc
>more turorial prompts
>finally first enemie-encounter
>tutorial-prompts again

fuck AAA-gaming with a burning fork!
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Four - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:45:26 EST Kj75rk+d No.735853 Reply
>>735847
Sounds like a JRPG. Japanese games tend to have longer tutorials because the developers like to prepare anyone, including someone who has never played a video game, to play theirs. That’s why each and every game drags on sometimes for ten hours maybe more still stuck in the tutorial. Western games circumvent that by making the opening really “epic” even though it feels like you barely did anything.
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Haohmaru - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 03:46:08 EST 2HfCBvJH No.743128 Reply
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When's Sekiro 2?

>>735853
Japs hand-holding for the next gen of players?
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Duke Nukem - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:15:57 EST hPVN04rV No.743138 Reply
>>735853
I think western devs just make the entire "game" an interactive movie that's impossible to lose so that anyone could complete it and feel special.
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Pit - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:18:58 EST teiRYaZn No.743139 Reply
>>743138

Western devs just use all the same controls, graphics, game play, etc. that have proven to sell well before. This way they don't need as much resources to make it, success is ensured, and players don't have to go through the boring tutorial as it plays the same as the last 5 games you played.

Homogenization of markets is the western way. Why have healthy competition when you can have a conglomerate monopoly running the show?! Monopolies are your friends!
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Bonks - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 02:23:52 EST MdwQ6wz5 No.745417 Reply
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Can you invite friends to help you fight bosses like Dark Souls?

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