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Can videogames be apolitical

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- Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:15:06 EST EJGe+4dq No.745433
File: 1573150506441.jpg -(85213B / 83.22KB, 824x1064) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Can videogames be apolitical
yes or no and why
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The Overseer - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 14:35:20 EST 1PRipo9X No.745439 Reply
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If we could see politic's, what would it look like?
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Slippy Toad - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:32:05 EST j75OC4Vb No.745441 Reply
Games should be apolitical. They should just be a story with interactivity.
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Juste Belmont - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 02:18:02 EST 1PRipo9X No.745460 Reply
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>>745451
it's shape, color, and other visual feature's that might help u's to better understand it's deeper metaphy'sical nature
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Sander Cohen - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:35:33 EST y05DXrQk No.745478 Reply
Yes AND no.
No one with even half a brain would think Super Mario Bros is political. But sure as day turns to night, there will be a blue checkmark with aposematic dyed hair who comes along to explain to everyone how Mario rescuing Princess Toadstool and collecting some coins along the way is re-enforcing harmful patriarchal cis-normative capitalism.
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Imperial Guard - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:04:21 EST BJtLvEfC No.745485 Reply
>>745478
Depends on how you define
>be political
Some games are an expression of a political opinion, those are political.

The thing about art is that you can see what you want in it. Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're not. Tipper Gore pulled Dee Snider up to state that "Under the Knife" was about BDSM and filth, and Dee simply stated that the joy of art is you can interpret it in a way that reflects your own mind. For example Under the Knife was about his guitarist undergoing surgery and that the BDSM therefore was Tipper's doing.

Also sometimes it doesn't matter. When you're arguing about the subconscious expression of societal programming then you may be right but you may not, but importantly even if you're right it doesn't matter. When you have overt expressions of politics in games that sort of thing is just background noise. Lets not even get into that person being wrong when really mario illustrates a working class hero may actually improve the lives and thus emancipate even people who think they benefit from the system. I mean I pulled that out my arsehole. But really the point is it doesn't matter. Ignore those people and focus on discourse that might actually make a difference.

On the other hand when you overtly make a game in which capitalism has reduced everyone to servants, greed eclipses productivity and problems are put off because they affect the next generation that's pretty obvious.
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suckdickster - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:47:44 EST N3FvNNPm No.745510 Reply
>>745478
>But sure as day turns to night, there will be a blue checkmark with aposematic dyed hair who comes along to explain to everyone how Mario rescuing Princess Toadstool and collecting some coins along the way is re-enforcing harmful patriarchal cis-normative capitalism

Not the first game in a vacuum, but since almost every single major mario game has some damsel in distress as a plot point I guess you could say that mario games in general are indeed re-enforcing some PrObLeMaTiC shit.
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Clyde - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 19:35:17 EST BdnvxroW No.745518 Reply
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>>745478 >>745510
Encouraging nobility worship is shitty.
The kings of the mushroom kingdom had it coming.
Fuck princesses. Peach should get a real job.
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Tom Nook - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 19:53:29 EST 20WTriXt No.745520 Reply
>>745518
what about the early stuff where it was about two italian plumbers from brooklyn clearing the sewers of turtle and crab infestations
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Orchid - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 19:30:16 EST gauvFt7e No.745835 Reply
>>745518
SNP stealing Labours seats are one of the reasons the Tories cling onto power
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Morrigan Aensland - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:00:14 EST aLZ29eRH No.745848 Reply
>>745835
How the fuck does a party "steal seats" in a Democracy? (other than by Gerrymandering, which isn't the case here)

Get Proportional Representation losers
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Taki - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:47:57 EST dNKpcp5k No.745851 Reply
While a game may be apolitical, the playing or creation of one never can be
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Nathan Spencer - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:57:36 EST maxhqGcA No.745852 Reply
Sure they can. It's not a huge task. Just don't mention things related to politics. A simple box to check off. lol Giant, explosive reactions to things. People certainly have those on political matters and I could see why you would want to not include them in a video game. It could impact sales. It could ruffle customers. I don't know what I would do if I was making a video game. Maybe I'd put it in, maybe I would not. I guess it would be game dependent. If it was a great story, I might throw something in political. A really good story. It's gotta have some solid components to it. No run-of-the-mill stuff here. lol
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Felicia - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 01:56:39 EST t8x/HI1Q No.745853 Reply
>apolitical
>existing
the word you're looking for is "centrist"
being apolitical is a fairy tale centrists and moderates tell themselves to feel like they have no stake in the game nb
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Thane Krios - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 04:59:48 EST j75OC4Vb No.745855 Reply
>>745853
I dunno about that. I think you can just not give a fuck. Not everything has to fall between the 2. Politics isn't gender, it's not a binary system. You can be conservative with your religious beliefs but liberal with your money.

I think this is the thing I see most americans not realizing. There is more to it than 1 or 0.
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Dregs - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:13:18 EST TV9Za1Xo No.745872 Reply
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>>745853
You'd have to be an idiot to actually believe this nonsense. People lose their glasses on their heads, forget why they opened the fridge, and will look all over the house for something they're holding. Everyone does it sometimes. So what makes you think anyone is qualified and capable of successfully governing millions of people? You see, there's also people out there who would prefer to abolish the government because it's little more than the largest, most crooked gang there is. And it's self perpetuating because it indoctrinates people like you into thinking there's no alternatives to the thieves and liars that constantly walk the halls of every capital building on earth.

I don't vote because you're always voting for the shiniest of two turds. Either one is going to rob you and act like they're doing you a favor. When you realize it and start acting upon that realization, that's called apolitical.

And don't start going "but your taxes pay for good things" because that just sounds like "it's okay to mug people if you donate the proceeds to the sick kids hospital" to me. I live in Canada. We didn't have income tax until the world wars, funding everything through sales tax and lotteries. And it was only supposed to be temporary, but politicians saw the opportunity to line their pockets and decided not to end income tax after the wars. So now I make money 40% of it gets taken off the top. When I spend that money, another 13% gets taken from each transaction. And if I make enough money that year to not be dirt poor, I owe more taxes in the springtime. If I want to get fucked up because this whole prospect is so depressing, I'm forced to go to a government owned liquor or cannabis store where they mark up products by 300% or more in taxes. I could make a case of liquor for the cost of a bottle here, but even if I want to make liquor for personal consumption they want me to get a liquor license, which would mean I'd have to own a million dollar distillery because they won't hand out those licenses unless you have a production facility of a certain size.

I could go on forever ranting about this stupidity, but the point is some people really are apolitical because they realize that it doesn't matter who the ruling thieves are.
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Jill Valentine - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:21:02 EST g80xiban No.745901 Reply
>>745872
Yeah, its incredible how hard it is to convince people that give half their work and would even go die for their government that its possible to a build and maintain a fucking road or plumbing without an army of rulers without a clue about pipes or tarmac in a city hundreds of miles away.
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Lan Di - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 22:26:32 EST EAiVI03q No.745932 Reply
>>745855
Being socially conservative and economically liberal is called being a Republican in America. Still political.
>>745872
>"I'm apolitical"
>immediately takes highly charged stances on taxes and "the way things used to be"
Like pottery. Somehow you've been hoodwinked into thinking not liking the status quo is apolitical when in reality it is the very definition of a political statement.
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Master Chu - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:16:30 EST QZS4MoNv No.746666 Reply
Politics is inherent in every interaction between two or more people living in a society together. You cannot produce and distribute media without politics. Considering the individuals who develop games presumably have lived in a society, even if a single person developed a game that no one but him ever played, it would still incorporate politics.
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Zhang Jiao - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:56:45 EST mt80M2A8 No.746680 Reply
everything we do is political

we made it thus
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Selphie Tilmitt - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:28:26 EST /JMNc8aI No.746687 Reply
>>746680
>>746666
The reach from 'everything is inherently a little bit political' to 'it's fine to artificially shove political statements into every piece of media in a jarring manner' is still a bullshit argument. Everyone is well aware that this is what 'I don't like politics in my media' means and it's just playing semantics to pretend otherwise **I'll grant some people really can't pull their political beliefs apart from their identity: this is sad but what can you do?**.

If I said 'I don't want arsenic in my food' you can't respond with 'all food has at least trace elements of arsenic in it, so shut the fuck up and eat your 50% arsenic burger'. Same principal.
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Selphie Tilmitt - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:29:58 EST /JMNc8aI No.746688 Reply
>>746687
>Fucked up my spoilers again
Oh well, too much time on lynxchan. Markup was a mistake.
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Nightmare - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:49:34 EST qtSFEQvF No.746689 Reply
I don’t think anything can be fully divorced from politics.

Fuck in the current discourse games deemed as apolitical are usually the most fiercely political games, we’re just use to war shooters.
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Snow Villiers - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:49:14 EST 96Witrna No.746692 Reply
>>746688
I thought this was going to be a chan that used the text based keyboard only browser Lynx. Sign me up.
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Selphie Tilmitt - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:57:44 EST /JMNc8aI No.746693 Reply
>>746692
I think there have been one or two attempts at command line only imageboards as well.
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