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Talk about nitpicky bullshit. Red Dead Redemption 2 isn't any less of an "immersive sim" than any of the Deus Ex games are. In fact, RDR2 might even be MORE of an immersive & simulating experience. The fact that RDR2 exists in a totally open-world sandbox alone makes it more of an "immersive sim."
You can go ANYWHERE in the game world that you wanna go to, WHENEVER you wanna go there. You have pretty much full control of your character's hairstyles and facial hair styles and clothing styles, you have full control of their weight, and you even have full control over their HYGIENE. There's plenty to do, both in terms of mindless distractions/fluff as well as actual "missions" (beyond just the main storyline), and you pretty much have full control over when/if/how you go about doing those things. ANYTHING, pretty much. You can talk to anyone in the world, you can eat food out of your provisions or get a full-course meal at a restaurant. You can customize the hell out of your guns and choose whether or not to wear the rifles/bow on your back/shoulder, you can fully customize your horse and saddle and stirrups. Not to mention how your eating habits will affect your weight which will affect your stats, your character AND horse will get dirty over time (and more so if you do things out there that MAKE you dirty) so you must remember to take hot baths regularly if you want to keep clean, your hair/facial hair will grow over time, your demeanor and reputation and the way you handle situations will lead to people treating you differently. Your guns will also degrade over time with regular usage and must be cleaned too. Your horse's weight might even fluctuate if you don't ever ensure its properly fed. The hunting and fishing are both very detailed but not too complicated, and the skinning animation is VERY realistic. And carrying skinned carcasses leaves a bloody spot on you/your horse even. You can smoke cigs and drink, go to vaudeville shows, get a professional 19th Century photograph portrait done, get drunk, go picking flowers & herbs. When at a campfire, you can cook the meat you buy/hunt and use the herbs & spices that you buy/pick to season it and make it even better. You can brew coffee there too. You can also craft stuff at campfires. You can also choose to set up a tent at your campsite and take it down when you're done. At the gang hideout, the cooks make a stew pot and a pot of coffee for everyone every day AND there's free booze around. You can choose to make ALL SORTS of upgrades to the camp and the player himself, sometimes requiring you to have certain animal parts. You can go treasure hunting. There are optional missions around gang camps that have you going out and bonding with your family by hunting or fishing or robbing stagecoaches/houses. You can also rob those things all on your own whenever you want to. You can just have a pocket watch in your inventory and then use it to have him pull the watch out to check the time in an in-game way. Theres bounties you can collect dead or alive, theres random encounters that include gunslinger duels, there's a whole LITTANY of totally optional side quests that have you doing all sorts of shit. And many missions - main & side - have you making choices that can have big impacts immediately or down the line, not just choices that don't seem to make a difference except for altering certain details about the epilogue sideshow that plays once you finish the game. Hell, a major story event even affects the PC's medical health and the game shifts gears and changes some things to REFLECT that in an immersive/realistic way.
This game is the EPITOME of jumping through hoops to maintain high levels of player immersion at ALL times, AND having mechanics that are essentially real life simulations. Theres probably even more that I'm forgetting all about, and I haven't even TOUCHED Red Dead Redemption 2 Online yet.
Deus Ex is one of my ALL TIME favorite games and ALL TIME favorite game franchises (I love all 4 of the mainline games that have come out so far), and I find it to always be quite an immersive experience (Invisible War...less so but still fun). But I'd HARDLY call it "simulation" in any way. And as immersive as it is, RDR2 is FAR more immersive and does FAR more to keep the player sucked into that world and fully immersed.
If Red Dead Redemption 2 somehow doesn't qualify as a a game that is an "immersive sim" as OP described, then literally NO video game can. Certainly not Deus Ex.