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PS5 new official details

- Thu, 19 Mar 2020 04:28:23 EST mxhe54I8 No.750442
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>won't run PS1-3 games
>won't run all PS4 games besides of 100 selected titles
>but the console itself is capable of running PS1-4 games

As for PS1-3 I could forget them for that, but as a PS4 owner I was hoping that their system would allowed me to use my whole PS4 game catalogue on PS5, but it seem like the greed of their policy says otherwise.....
Yuffie Kisaragi - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 04:50:30 EST +FEWF/1n No.750443 Reply
The way they actually explained it seems reasonable and sounds pretty similiar to the xbox > xbox360 BC situation.

I don't intend to throw out my PS4 but I guess it's a bummer for people who still have a lot of PS1, 2, and 3 games they want to play.
King Dedede - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 05:01:23 EST mxhe54I8 No.750444 Reply
Don't know, if PS5 had a BC with all PS4 games, it would been much better to smoothly switch to PS5 and still be able to play all PS4 games at launch.
Terenas Menethil - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 06:29:13 EST KOtt88cJ No.750449 Reply
I watched the live stream yesterday. Long story short- while the PS5 is not as powerful as the XSX, it's meant to be more accessible to game developers. The presentation was also meant for them. That's why Mark Cerny was spitting tech jargon nonstop.

Personally speaking, I don't give a fuck about backwards compatibility. I still have my hacked PS2, and there's not one PS3 game that I'm dying to play again.
Col. John Blade - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 12:37:51 EST b2jeiBl5 No.750461 Reply
The only hidden card they had was to make it run all PS4 games at launch, that would probably been the best way to introduce the console, since new consoles at launch usually have nothing to offer, I remember that it took almost 3 years for ps3 to get a great games on the system and about 2 years for ps4.
Darkstalker Kaathe - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:37:10 EST ZRYh0qUr No.750473 Reply
>won't run all PS4 games besides of 100 selected titles
that's not what they said you dink. but yeah the backwards compatibility situation is pretty crap regardless.
Goro - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:38:21 EST CnXf3JBw No.750476 Reply
>Long story short- while the PS5 is not as powerful as the XSX, it's meant to be more accessible to game developers.

Marketing stats can be deceptive but taken at face value they're going to be closer than the PS4 and Xbone. Was that power gap noticeable in multiplatform games?
pikachu's sexual slave - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 21:21:27 EST SD4jVZIe No.750478 Reply
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AMD just posted a hardware ray tracing demo on youtube (https://youtu.be/eqXeM4712ps), and I'm kind of disappointed in the performance. It seems to be runing at like 20 something fps and at 1080p, and it's probably running on their unreleased flagship PC discrete graphics card which is massively more powerful than what the ps5 has -- it's going to have 80 compute units, while the ps5 has only 36, so I'm assuming it has many more ray tracing cores. So yeah, I don't think that either the ps5, or the xboner series xxx will use ray tracing a lot in games, at least not at decently high resolutions and framerates. Disappointed.
Meta Knight - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:46:46 EST iY/R3Vpv No.750564 Reply
It's 24p at 60p with 3:2 pulldown. You should also assume it's prerendered. As for how raytracing is going to be used in the near future, shadows are more likely than than chromeworld. Ignore the hype.
Cyan - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 23:28:00 EST IX14PoO/ No.750582 Reply
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I think this is the Gen I finally just became a "PC gamer"

My XBO was used a few times in the past year to play games I didn't want to buy again on PC. It was great back in the day with Halo 5 and Dark Souls 2. Now it just sits there making me feel sad I don't power it on more.

My PS4 was a lot of fun for psvr and friends I made in a few anime games. Those games are pretty much dead now and everyone moved on to different interests. When the PS5 comes out I can't imagine anything happening that will push me to buying one. Especially with VR, next time I get into VR it will be on PC.

Yep, the PS4 was a good time but I think me and Sony should just be friends from now on. It's not them, it's me.
Pigma Dengar - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:00:48 EST pyspoDB9 No.750619 Reply
With every new gen consoles devs are getting lazier to optimize video/sound files so that the games are now 50-100+GB.
I hope this time we will not get games that will require 200GB hdd space.
Lester the Unlikely - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:18:17 EST ZRYh0qUr No.750831 Reply
supposedly with the SSDs it is supposed to decrease filesizes because there will be less duplication of data. not sure how true that is though
Dr. Neo Cortex - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:57:33 EST z9hiFOUj No.750847 Reply
I don't think that with SSD they wil decrease the size, since SSD is like the faster version of HDD and it has nothing to do with games size, it all depends on developers on how they're optimizing their game, the most space usually takes the sound and video files, and what they have to do is to make the files smaller.
Isaac Clarke - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:51:06 EST wyPNgJBW No.750849 Reply
That's fucking bullshit btw.

Sure you can duplicate data to save seek times at different points in loading for common assets... But nobody does that shit on hard drives. It was mainly done for optical discs, because they had a finite amount of space, horrendous seek times and any free space was wasted if not used, so duplication was a no brainer.
Isaac Clarke - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 23:52:52 EST wyPNgJBW No.750850 Reply
No reason not to have full backwards compatibility. The hardware is fucking compatible FFS.
Frank West - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:59:56 EST z9hiFOUj No.750910 Reply
Vita had a lot of potential, it was 10 times better then 3DS, but the lack of support had killed that platform because at the time Sony was more focused on PS4.
At least Nintendo is more accurate with Switch, they only must release a new Zelda BotW sequel and Metroid.
Four - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:54:57 EST FKaMvHkQ No.750978 Reply
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Plenty of things went wrong for the Vita and it's all Sony's fault. But it's not all that bad, thanks to them dropping the ball, the device can be picked up for cheap and it's a powerful little device if you hack it. Everything looks amazing on that OLED screen, and it's my go to handheld for all games, be it PC98 or Adventure games on Scumm or Nintendo console games.
the widdle boy everyone bullies so sad oh no 😢 - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 14:44:22 EST NTNdaTHt No.750998 Reply
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This next gen is gonna be legit af, and this is coming from a pc-first person. Trying to match the SSD of the ps5 alone will cost you half a ps5, and it's not even close to being a match since the ps5's SSD is faster than anything currently available for pcs, and the ps5 has no IO bottlenecks that prevent its SSD from running as fast as it can. You just can't match it, bro. For the other parts we're talking about an RX 5700 XT, which alone costs as much or nearly as much as what the ps5 is probably gonna cost (400 bucks), and it's not as fast or efficient. Then there's the ryzen cpu, and the motherboard, and the power supply, and the ram.

Remember when the ps3 released and PCs took a little while to catch up? I think the situation is worse this time. So I wouldn't buy expensive pc parts to play AAA games any time soon. I'll just keep my obsolete PC like it is for the indie games (which are usually better anyway).
Kain - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:01:56 EST 4HlZb5XY No.751000 Reply
Who the fuck even plays video games anymore? Nothing from the AAA industry has been creative or enjoyable for like a decade now unless you count a handful of statistical anomalies. Indie shit fucking sucks and always has and mid-tier devs have been run out of town by the big corporations either suing them or buying them out.
Oxanna Kristos - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:18:10 EST XUc1sXap No.751001 Reply
You're on the wrong board

Try a surfboard instead. Hang 10!
the widdle boy everyone bullies so sad oh no 😢 - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 18:27:05 EST DhfcR2vF No.751002 Reply
he's right though. There's nothing worse than videogames
Kit Ballard - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 19:36:25 EST z9hiFOUj No.751005 Reply
Well, that's your personal opinion, I usually play games because it helps me a lot to recover from bad mood.
Gabriel Belmont - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 05:24:49 EST xeGdxQNX No.751304 Reply
Next gen X-box seems be have the better hardware specs this time.
Kintaro - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 08:10:28 EST ZRYh0qUr No.751312 Reply
Seems like folks like Digital Foundry are saying it's going to be by a narrower margin than this gen though so it really shouldn't be a bigger consideration than the games themselves and whatever other features the consoles have. Also important to remember that Xbox is releasing their pro and base models out the gate, with XSX being the "pro" model, whereas it seems what we've seen of PS5 is the "base" model.
K. K. Slider - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:08:25 EST QG2iKnqT No.751314 Reply
I have literally never seen one single argument for why I should play consoles. This thread just made me realize that. I've literally never seen one actual argument why I ought to get consoles and console games instead of PC in 30 years of my life.
Four - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:31:22 EST FKaMvHkQ No.751315 Reply
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Couch co-op or smash with your friends. That's the only reason I could ever come up with personally.
I get where you're coming from though. I do own a number of consoles but that's only for the exclusives. I wouldn't buy one if I had access to it on the PC, which is the case now and the reason why I'm not all that interested in consoles anymore.
Zerg - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:39:07 EST 20WTriXt No.751316 Reply
I wanted a ps4 so I could play the latest cowboy/spiderman simulators but then red dead came out on steam and one game isn't worth a console so I guess I'll never play spiderman
Kintaro - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 11:58:38 EST ZRYh0qUr No.751319 Reply
It's simpler to use and games can be optimized better for a closed system than with PC where it's a range of specs (although that's changing with mid-gen refreshes)
Lord of Shadowgate - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 15:29:49 EST BJtLvEfC No.751326 Reply
Basically this and couch co op. So both things console manufacturers have been trying to get rid of and phasing out for 15 years now (I mean that was the plan in 2005. even if it was early research). This big strategy overlooked tablets and smart phones as being a media centre was also a lynchpin of it too.

At this point you could buy a laptop and a console, but if you don't need to do work/write letters while someone else plays why not consolidate and buy a machine that does both better?
Meta Knight - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 16:50:08 EST 1gNpUqVK No.751329 Reply
I think PCs can be a hassle. I remember buying Alan Wake and Oblivion for my Windows 8 PC. Had trouble installing Oblivion and Alan Wake just straight up wouldnt run. And then older games like Diablo 2, Starcraft, Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 wouldnt even install even though I had the discs. Morrowind pretty much ran perfectly though. As well as Trails in The Sky and Half Life 1. Its frustrating to buy a game and not be sure if its going to work on your PC, especially when I like to play older games, and when websites like systemsrequirementslab.com say you should be able to run the game no problem, and then they dont work.

When I bought my ps4, I was debating on whether or not to get a PC or ps4. So I went to a computer store, and asked the guy how much a pc that could run the Witcher 3 would cost. He said around $500. I then asked if the PC could play older games, and he said probably not. That alone made me decide on the ps4. To me PCs are only good for emulation and torrenting movies and shit.
Marc Kai - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 17:45:28 EST +IdrwqvO No.751332 Reply
That guy probably had a shitty knowledge of PC, you can run any game you want(even the ones that not support windows 7-10), there are like bunch of mods and fan made patches that helping out, or you can just buy games from GOG since all games are already optimized for current system there, or just download GOG-rip repack.
The point is that with a strong PC you can always keep your library while with consoles you have To say goodbye To your library and rebuy them again as a HD remaster.
Cate Archer - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 18:17:12 EST 2Fb9kySD No.751337 Reply
See the thing is, is that it takes time to look up mods and fan made patches. Most of the times I just want to get high amd drunk as fuck and just play a game. I have looked up a bunch of patches and mods to run Alan Wake and Diablo 2. None of them worked for me. I just think its stupid, you bought the game already. Why should you have to do any extra work just to make a game that your PC SHOULD be able to run in the first place? Whats funny is Diablo 2 doesn't work for me even though I have the physical copy, but Diablo 1 torrented works no problem. GOG doesnt always work either. I bought Baldurs Gate from GOG and Steam, both dont work. I dont work with computers, so maybe thats a huge factor. I dont mind using PCs, I installed Linux on my last PC and that worked for a long ass time. Now it doesnt even want to boot up. Shit like that makes me not want to buy a PC and just stick to consoles. Its a headache. I cant run Quake 3 either, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE THE PHYSICAL DISCS. It really pisses me off. But hey maybe im just stupid.
Marc Kai - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:58:48 EST +IdrwqvO No.751341 Reply
Did you even updated your drivers? It should help to add the missing DLL files that are required to run some certain games.
I had the same problem with mine Windows 7, so I updated the all Windows drivers from Control Panel and now I can run anything without any problen.
I mostly play Wii, PS2 and PSP games via emulation with a decent controller.
Daxter - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:05:37 EST +IdrwqvO No.751342 Reply
It's a slav torrent site, but It's very handy when It comes to games, expecially the retro games that are already patched and waiting to be installed.
Use a google translate and download anything you need.
Cole MacGrath - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:17:03 EST BJtLvEfC No.751344 Reply
You're not comparing like for like. This is saying "I can run games from 5 years ago on my console but can't run games from 20 years ago on my PC so PCs have worse backwards support".

If you want to run turn of the century PC games a new console won't work either. If you want to run turn of the century console games a PC will emulate. If you want to run old PC games out the box you'll need an old box. I mean except quite a few games will work with updated drivers and compatibility mode. Morrowind, Deux Ex, Quake, old Dooms, UFO etc all ran just fine on windows 10 for me.

If you want to run slightly newer games, a PC will likely work, it might take effort but it's just not a console option. The physical disks has nothing to do with it, it's that they were written for entirely different hardware and software. That's why you need mods and shit or maybe just updated drivers and to check a couple of boxes on the file. often the latter. Because the default windows 10 settings are magic futurespeak to something that ran when 32mb was cutting edge graphics on direct x fucking 6, Your computer can emulate those settings effortlessly but if you don't tell it that's what it needs to do it's going to look at quake 3 and say
>you talk like a fag and your shit is retarded
And then not run.

I've run baldur's gate on windows 10, the 6 disc version. it worked but the resolution sucked, the steam version ran out the box.

I think if I'm going to spend 3 figures on something I won't just ask a guy in a store. I'll do the research.
Pigma Dengar - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:36:18 EST 2Fb9kySD No.751345 Reply
Buuuuut, im stupid and need to update my drivers again probably. Because that was one of the main trouble shooting issues of why I cant play some old games when I looked it up. Also I have a ps2, ps3, ps4, wii, n64, sega genesis, og xbox, 3ds, and dreamcast. So my main reason for debating at the time about pc vs ps4 was the backwards compatibility of a pc, and how easy it was to play those older pc games right away. Really though, not being able to run Baldurs Gate really pissed me off, it literally turned me off from becoming a pc player. Buying it off steam and gog and its still not working? Aint nobody got time for that. Im just glad some of the steam games I bought work no problem. I probably just need to build a pc. But I only play games for at most 20 hours a week, thats all I have time for. So thats also an issue.
Pigma Dengar - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:42:04 EST 2Fb9kySD No.751346 Reply
Also maybe Windows 10 is better? And doing all that extra shit, getting mods, updating drivers, checking boxes just to make sure A GAME YOU ALREADY BOUGHT WILL WORK? That doesnt annoy you?
Four - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 23:19:01 EST FKaMvHkQ No.751348 Reply
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You're blowing it out of proportion. You can find a copy of old games that runs on modern PCs pretty easily now. Yes, you might have to go through a troubleshooting process to get it to work but your problem can be easily fixed with a simple google search and following the directions. It's really not that hard. I think it's much more difficult and expensive to find a working copy of a game for your Sega Genesis or PS2. Unless you're planning on modding the console, I really dont see the point of keeping any console.

You're also forgetting the greatest advantage the PC has, Piracy. most PC gamers do it for the free games. Imagine this, I have every game ever released up to PS3 and the Xbox. Seriously, I got Terabytes of games I can never play through even if I spent the rest of my life gaming. Every game ever released all available on your PC, just pick one and play it on your Emu. They all run better on your pc anyways. You also get the fan made remakes, hentai games, and all the edgy shit that never made it to your favorite console cause some Prick in Cali thinks your brain cant handle it.

Modded Skyrim, lil bro. How can you go through life without ever crucifying an Elf in Skyrim? Or roleplaying a skooma junkie Khajit with a taste for nordic flesh, kidnapping all the Skyrim children, slicing them to pieces, cooking them, devouring them their succulent flesh and using the shit to create a potent poison to murder their parents with?
The sky is the limit.
Pigma Dengar - Thu, 09 Apr 2020 23:43:09 EST 2Fb9kySD No.751349 Reply
Nigga. Stfu. I remember you bitching on a thread on how bad it is to pirate. And now you're trying to promote it? Four, stop being such a hypocrite.
Four - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 00:10:43 EST UXm7sXCU No.751350 Reply
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Its OK to pirate dead console games unless you want to pay scalpers a premium which doesn't help anyone and only worsens the problem. Don't pirate newly released games.
Mr. Resetti - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:08:50 EST XUc1sXap No.751358 Reply
Didn't you say before that you're basically independently wealthy and look down on poor people?

Pirate if you're not a rich trust fund faggot like Four and can't afford it. Feel no shame.

I used to pirate everything. Now I buy everything. I just don't play new games. I have such a backlog anyway, why would anyone play anything newly released? You pay double, it has more bugs and the reviews aren't yet accurate. Only people who buy new releases are chumps, IMO. Pirate or wait.
Daxter - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:22:51 EST +IdrwqvO No.751361 Reply
I personally pirat games just to try em like a demo, and after enjoying it I buy the real copy.
When it comes to EA, I'm sticking with the pirated version and never buy any product that is related to them.
Four - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:32:24 EST FKaMvHkQ No.751364 Reply
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Yeah, I despise EA. I pirate all their games and seed them all day everyday. Multiple copies off multiple websites. I just wana do as much harm to this company as I can.
Daxter - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:18:27 EST +IdrwqvO No.751369 Reply
I just can't get how companies can be this pathetic and never learn from their mistakes, when you punish them they make a one good product and after getting high sales they're backing on their previous evil roots again.
Vyse - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 21:26:32 EST XUc1sXap No.751375 Reply
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Because people continue to buy their shit, and because their shitty practices bring in far more money than the actual games.

It's in the game!
Ebisumaru - Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:49:07 EST uKZIW8sV No.751378 Reply
They don't learn from mistakes because it's not a mistake when everyone buys their product...
Alexandra Roivas - Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:20:17 EST +IdrwqvO No.751425 Reply
I wish people would stop supporting them, so that they would went bancrupt and other compnies watch and learn in fear that there's a better tactic to please your consumers and still having your high sales without being a dick.
I mean it's took Capcom to nearly went into bancrupt untill they started to tealise that their shitty tactics were killing them, so that's when they gived a greenlight to Resident Evil 7, RE2-3 Remake, Devil May Cry 5 and finally bringing Monster Hunter to a wide audience with a release of MH:World.
Selphie Tilmitt - Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:31:09 EST IcB310ea No.751426 Reply
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RE3 remake was lazy as fuck and capcom should be ashamed
Alexandra Roivas - Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:41:29 EST +IdrwqvO No.751428 Reply
It was not that bad actually, so far I really enjoyed it, althrough I agree that they could made it better.
Cloud Strife - Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:23:19 EST QYaNnRLT No.751610 Reply
I would say 7.5/10, It took me 4.5 hours to finish the game, the only thing bothered me is that the game was missing half of the content of original RE3, and they weren't even puzzles to begin with.
The team behind of RE2 remake had some more justice to it's source material than the one behind of 3, the concept of 3 was good, if only they made it just like the original with puzzles, clock tower, survivors mode and multiple endings, it could've been a 9/10 game.
They could've been a bit more creative and add a scenario mode to start the game as Carlos or Jill (like in RE2), so each scenario would give you a new view to the story from the different perspective.

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