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Brain in a Jar by Esther Susslestodge - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:19:42 EST ID:glhM6xUu No.37096 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161004-were-developing-brains-outside-of-the-body

> In fact, making a brain isn’t as difficult as you might expect. With a few simple ingredients – and an unquenchable enthusiasm for drenching things in alcohol – you too could have a miniature brain in a matter of months.

> Finally, the developing brains are enveloped in a blanket of jelly. “It’s the opposite of normal jelly – it starts off as a liquid which you pour on and it jellifies as it warms up in the incubator,” she says.

> The man-made brains are already transforming our understanding of the brain, its disorders and what makes humans special.

> So what does the future hold? Several groups are working on improving the brains, introducing a blood supply so that they can grow larger

> For many scientists, the ultimate goal is for the brains to function like normal brains

Not sure if /n/ or /wc/
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Martha Pemblestotch - Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:45:51 EST ID:CjmR05YA No.37159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37109
Yeah but not directly and with cybernetics and CPUs capable of high speed. The brain is you, don't fuck with it too much or you'll lose your self.
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Lillian Dushhood - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:20:20 EST ID:13ajt4aF No.37192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37110
>Given this chan is nearly entirely centered around causing damage to your brain for short term pleasure
yeah, wrestling is retarded
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Albert Dridgesteck - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:46:35 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37192
You know this just made me realize something pretty horrifying. Even in the singularity, people will like wrestling. So I guess 'battle bots' will become a global pastime? People will probably make NASCAR with hover-cars, too. My point is that no matter how much awesome technology you have, someone will find a way to use it that's 100% cringe-worthy.
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Esther Crapperlog - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:38:17 EST ID:glhM6xUu No.37200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37193
Robot Wrestling make me imagine /wooo/ and /vg/ having a kid.
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Isabella Wombleman - Wed, 24 May 2017 23:50:33 EST ID:8/XZCEYq No.37218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37142
related to brain mods: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/04/worlds-first-cyborg-human-evolution-science/

things to do with fully functioning blank human brains:
  1. fill brain with specific stuff, replace someone's current brain with it
  2. humanoids capable of human features
  3. artificial industrial monitors with no salary and minimal upkeep, being the replacement for biologically human overseers who will need to oversee AI for a while. each brain comes printed with functions/goals.

cant think of anymore (im sick) but in the end im squicked out by the long term goal of creating something that fully emulates the human brain. pic related i keep thinking of an inverted version of battle angel alita...


What's the Capitol of Earth? by Matilda Babberstone - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:12:09 EST ID:taca/r37 No.37195 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, let's talk about this. If a period of Global government did arise, what do you think would become the capitol?

And sure, most of us on this board might be ready for a leaderless future run by enlightened technology, but a lot of the normals aren't there yet and they're probably gonna need a transition phase.

The obvious choices seem like the big ones. The ones with a lot of history and institutions. It'd be kind of cooler if they went with something smaller though, like how a lot of US state's biggest cities aren't the capitols.

What would you nominate?
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Martin Backlebanks - Tue, 16 May 2017 03:23:41 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37207
Of course there will never be a monoculture. But the abundance of cultures now are too much for a global single government. Not enough are ready to see them selves as a citizen of this world before a citizen of their culture or nation/country.

Look at it this way. America is a large nation. People on the east have a different culture than the west, however they both see them selves as Amerians first.
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Polly Sodgesturk - Wed, 17 May 2017 00:36:02 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37213
>>the abundance of cultures now are too much for a global single government
>> People on the east have a different culture than the west, however they both see them selves as Amerians first
Your second statement contradicts your first. If it's possible for Americans with widely divergent cultures to achieve unity, then why couldn't the same thing happen with respect to the world, given the appropriate conditions (as were necessary in the case of the US)?

Where do you get the idea that fewer cultures will somehow make world government easier? Might it not be the case that if you just have a few large cultures, they will become so self-dependent and insular that they have no good reason to join up, whereas numerous small cultures, trying to survive, have frequently banded together throughout history.

Global culture has already emerged; it's the internet. Throughout modernity, traditional cultures have been subsumed into global culture. This will continue, but thanks to information technology's infinite capacity to reproduce information, all the cultures we are currently aware of will, in all likelihood, be a part of our cultural memory for the rest of history (unless we have some kind of dark age.)

If you're concerned about culture's reticence to accept global unity, you need to find a way to turn your own culture away from the call of nationalism and towards global consciousness. The only way it happens is if members of every culture follow suit. Talking about how cultures need to die off in order for the world to unite makes you sound like nothing other than a nationalist/ethnicist yourself.
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Sidney Shittinglock - Wed, 24 May 2017 07:21:54 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37214
But look at how countries with multiple cultures tend to hit a limit of "in" cultures.
It's not a matter of nationalism vs globalism. Those simply have different levels of focus on maintaining the same thing. What we are waiting for will happen naturally and cannot be forced. Globalism seeks to force that unity with out direct conflict and Humanity is too scattered for that right now. Nationalism wants to keep global relations as they were for the last 50 years. In a some what autistic attempt to keep things separate and ordered. In reality we need a medium setting which will be found eventually as populations move and technology makes distance seem insignificant in terms of contact, and quite posibly war may extinguish some cultures or leave them crippled. But the internet is speeding this up however it is a far cry of any sort of government. It's more like an infinite planescape with a tyrant of varying degree in each realm. A bit of a metaphor but each site has it's own rules and persecutes unilaterally in most cases.
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Sidney Shittinglock - Wed, 24 May 2017 07:31:00 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37214
also nationalism only has as much to do with ethnists as say rebublicans tend to be openly christian. What I speak of is Civic nationalism, where in multiple sub cultures, also some times enthicities, work for a collective culture or country.

The title of globalist or nationalist today only serves to form contention because people in politics in any capacity speaks of grand ideas and yet know not of what they pitch. As this pertains to futurism, this climate of cultural identity politics with an emphasis on what skin color any one is, and both sides do this, the world is not ready for global government, globalist or nationalist, left or right, up or down even black or white. opposite is positive.
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Cedric Shittingford - Wed, 24 May 2017 14:40:04 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37215
I'm getting progressively more confused by your posts, and I'm not sure this is the right board for you if you're looking to argue political talking points.
>>But look at how countries with multiple cultures tend to hit a limit of "in" cultures.
I am familiar with no such limit, nor have ever seen any evidence of their being such a thing. Citation?

>>nationalism vs globalism. Those simply have different levels of focus on maintaining the same thing.
No they're not. They're words that have actual distinct meanings that are totally contrary. You say we need global society, but say globalism is bad (and bad because it wants to unify people without direct conflict -- so you would prefer direct conflict?) but that's exactly what globalism is, that's what globalism means, what it has meant for decades, you're just latching onto it as a modern political meme word.

>>What we are waiting for will happen naturally and cannot be forced
You suggest that global government will somehow generate spontaneously, without people working to make it happen. Think about that for a second. Do you really think that makes sense? How does anything in human society happen without humans forcing it to happen? Do you think the UN just spontaneously generated? Things change in human society if and only if people force that change to happen. Nothing about human society is 'natural' under that definition of the word. Throwing your hands up and assuming that someone else will just make it happen, which is the other possible interpretation of that statement, is just another sure-fire way to guarantee it doesn't happen. Human society has existed for tens of thousands of years, with people trying to unify it and people trying to break it up. If it hasn't 'naturally' come together all on it's own in that timespan, why would it now?

>>the internet is speeding this up however it is a far cry of any sort of government
The internet isn't a government, no, but it is a society. All modern nation-states governments evolved out of societies that formerly weren't nation states, and this has all occurred mostly within the last 250 years. Nation-states are not a permanent historical development, whereas a global network descendant from the internet may well be. The 'social' dimension of that network will only continue to grow; the Chinese government is already using IT tech to hand out what essentially amount to Good Boy Points based on social media metrics.

>>nationalism only has as much to do with ethnists as say rebublicans tend to be openly christian. What I speak of is Civic nationalism
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Currency by Archie Blatherstone - Sun, 14 May 2017 17:28:17 EST ID:vO7dNIdh No.37208 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How will currency change in the future, or will it stay the same? Will we be buying our soycaf with cold hard fiat dollars, bitcoins, labor vouchers, bottle caps, or something entirely different?

My favorite idea for future currency is TIME! All the work will be as valuable, and with the smart watches and -glasses and -boxers we can automatize the measure system so that everyone's working hours are counted laser sharp. Then you simply trade your work time to someone elses time in the form of goods.
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Doris Bummlenutch - Mon, 15 May 2017 15:45:02 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you really think about it, money already is time. Money is a representation of the value of human labor, when you get down to it, based (roughly, either on the scale of hours or years) on how much time it takes a person of a specified skill level to complete a task.

Once we have post-scarcity manufacturing, the value of human labor will plummet to basically $0 in terms of capital costs. So we will probably have to revert to the original currency; reputation. The internet already has a shade of this; after all, what's more valuable to a large company, a couple million bucks or a couple million followers on twitter?

It was like this in ancient times too. If you broke your leg on the hunt, but you were a good guy, they would probably do what they could to keep you alive, even though it would cost food for the whole tribe. But if you were an asshole, they would be more inclined just to let you die. So really, since money is just a contrivance for organizing human behavior relative to each other, once the contrivance is gone, all that will be left is the natural organization people create; whether they want to work together or not.

The concept of a reputation-based currency has been explored in fiction as the 'Whuffie' : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie


Cyberpunk revival by John Dandleshit - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:46:22 EST ID:KnZ28Bqz No.36514 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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There's been a proliferation of cyberpunk content and discussion lately, possibly a response to Internet 2.0 and the erosion of privacy and anonymity, and personal rights. I thought I'd drop a bunch of links for anyone who wants to get their cyber on. Mirrorshades obligatory from this point on.

https://nullpo.moe/
https://stormfront.org/cyber/index.html
https://penumbra.network/
http://jinteki.industries/
https://deaddrops.com/
https://freenetproject.org/
https://lainchan.org/
http://programming-motherfucker.com/
https://piratebox.cc/
http://textfiles.com/
http://project.cyberpunk.ru/
https://zeronet.io/

In general, how relevant and/or prescient do anons think the original cyberpunk/hackers and their manifesto and philosophies were, now that the Net is tightening?
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Lydia Dossleforth - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:14:52 EST ID:v3lAgZjC No.37201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://mebious.co.uk/
https://lobste.rs/
http://undeadly.org/cgi
https://boards.systemspace.link/
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Sophie Hondernitch - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 16:08:30 EST ID:1TeuWqT3 No.37202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nicholas Porryshit - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:36:54 EST ID:MRG01ooy No.37203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37105
Is shodan.io actually useful if you're a real hacker? I just started learning to hack a couple months ago and I already have a few identity and password thefts under my belt, but there really isn't any useful information there.
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Nicholas Porryshit - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:42:38 EST ID:MRG01ooy No.37204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37201
WHOA. mebious.co.uk is a cool idea for a way to communicate online. I love the random locations of text rather than lame linear lists. I'll be using it more
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Nigel Hollerdore - Fri, 12 May 2017 10:08:36 EST ID:sGNehPMW No.37206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.hacktivistvillage.com/
https://calafou.org/
https://www.cyberpunked.org/
http://www.xanadu.net/
https://dearfcc.org/


Floating Building in the Sky by Augustus Cocklekut - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:56:17 EST ID:McyvvGQe No.37185 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yeah I dont think thisll work.

Daily mail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4354612/Architect-unveils-skyscraper-hangs-asteroid.htm

lThat really IS a high rise: Sci-fi plan to hang a wandering skyscraper from asteroid orbiting Earth is unveiled Radical skyscraper design from a New York City firm will be built from the sky down, instead of the ground up
Analemma Tower is set to be suspended from an orbiting asteroid 31,068 miles (50,000 km) above the Earth
Tower will move in a figure eight pattern between the northern and southern hemispheres each day
Solar panels will generate power and water will be collected from cloud condensation and rain water
Building will be broken up into sections, such as business, worship, dining, shopping and entertainment

A New York architecture firm has unveiled designs for a skyscraper that is out of this world.

Deemed the ‘world’s tallest building ever’, Analemma Tower will be suspended from an orbiting asteroid 31,068 miles (50,000 km) above the Earth– and the only way to leave is by parachute.

The orbital path would swing the tower in a figure eight pattern between the northern and southern hemispheres each day, taking residents on a tour through different parts of the world - all in just a 24 hour orbital cycle.
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Basil Gooddock - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:56:10 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is so not actually happening. Architectural firms release outlandish plans all the time as publicity stunts, even if the plan is for something patently impossible. This one is particularly poorly done, the photoshop work looks like it was done by a high-school kid.

Building this skyscraper would probably be the biggest engineering feat in the history of the world, and since it includes neither a plan for getting the materials into orbit successfully, nor developed a new material that would be able to meet the tensile requirements of the tether (no such material or even a material close to being strong enough exists) then all this counts for is as a (very transparent) publicity stunt.
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Hamilton Somblehall - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 03:10:29 EST ID:9q+gAcyF No.37187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37186
Not to mention getting a fucking asteroid in geostationary orbit at 50,000km fromt he surface.

>It will orbit Earth!
>But it will collect rain water and be low enough to stay in place and move up and around the equator and shit lol

Fuckin space, how does it work?
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Ernest Pittham - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 03:48:57 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37185
>architecture firm

lol not gunna work.
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Archie Dackleridge - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:06:44 EST ID:EiHyBPqD No.37190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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But muh Tiphares!
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Doris Crivingstit - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 16:24:04 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37190
Don't worry, we'll get our techno Tower of Babel one day, it just won't be these jackasses building it.


Language by Hugh Pemmlespear - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 20:37:43 EST ID:LLbnIWz+ No.36839 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are we going to have a one world language? Which one will it be, english, esperanto, binary, 1337sp33k?
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Polly Gublingstone - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:00:11 EST ID:5hz2OT1J No.36855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36853
Being able to influence people's thoughts with technology is a problem not only inherent to mind-machine interfaces, but with technology in general. We already structure language to influence a person's politics...that's what politics *IS.* Mind-machine interfaces provide the only way out because they would allow us fine grained control over the informational content of our minds.
Ultimately, we can never get out of the brain-in-a-vat problem, but preventing mind-machine interfaces does nothing to change that and just robs us of a potentially useful technology.
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Phineas Crobberhood - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:10:49 EST ID:pKpgIzqw No.36856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36855
I'm not saying you shouldn't interface your mind with a machine, but if I'm given the option I'll still learn language the natural way and use machine translation when I really need to. I'm not taking something as big as a language into my mind without checking through it.
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Polly Gublingstone - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:36:11 EST ID:5hz2OT1J No.36857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36856
Well that's cool too. It's possible that to meaningfully learn a language in your meat-ware brain (rather than some exo-cortex) you would have to go through the process of learning it bit by bit, even if it was in a hyper-accelerated time frame managed by an AI or something, so it's possible that everyone who wasn't an AI would still have to learn languages by checking through them, even if it seemed to only take a second. I also agree that when we are downloading anything into our brains it's important to check through it. I'd just rather debug my brain code using a compiler where I have GUI to manage all the variables rather than hard-wire it the old fashioned way if I have the option, but to each their own.
Maybe the universal language will be some sort of constructed Interlac? It's a worthy question to ask what sort of language un-enhanced bio-humans will use in the far future.
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George Gimmerwitch - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 18:24:48 EST ID:Xeo3AjGs No.37181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How can I learn Esperanto? Any good resources?
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Ernest Blugglesug - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:29:24 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>36856
got news bro. you're on a PC on the internet. It's the most dark ages version of direct mind-machine interfaces. I'm manipulating your political views with my language and words.

Sad reason to hold off on the awesome tech we will see in our life times. For sure a balance to be had with security and privacy. But honestly every problem we forsee is really already upon us in some form, and is really driving the direction of society as we speak. Our civilization aware or not as a whole is currently deciding on all the shit we like here at /FTL/


Latest Update From Boston Dynamics by The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sun, 15 May 2016 00:29:07 EST ID:yB3CTEPr No.36569 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9SfUJg1_Y

Funny swearing version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQ1BDkGGDk

Looks amazing!!
Atlias kinda reminds me of a sleeker version of Fallout Protections...
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Esther Creggleford - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:46:29 EST ID:RhBhbhXV No.36831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36799
Tell that to Q
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Emma Billingstone - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:13:02 EST ID:5hz2OT1J No.36832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36831
Q was never hung up on trivial shit. He mostly stuck to the big issues 'you like to kill everything around you' 'you like to poke into shit that's way too dangerous for you' 'you have no conception of the unfathomable mysteries of existence' etc.
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The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:26:14 EST ID:jnc1hdcE No.37182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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New scary ass wheeled robot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giS41utjlbU
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Archie Pammerhood - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:14:13 EST ID:oTLnLKBq No.37183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37182
>Awwwwwwww yeah...
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 23:21:49 EST ID:YV0hoYuJ No.37184 Report Quick Reply
>>37182
Why does everyone keep saying this thing is scary?


AI revolution and the end of the world by Angus Sebblespear - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:13:59 EST ID:PGSGDpZD No.37151 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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AI revolution thread, I found this article yesterday which i'll link below (it's a 2 part and it's pretty long) but it's really got me thinking about the potential for super intelligent AI in our lifetimes. If anyone has any other reading material on AI that would be most appreciated.

Thanks

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html
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Phineas Cummerman - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 17:04:33 EST ID:D/kzCQXr No.37155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37154

Have you got an alternate link for that first one? it's comes up as a dead link and I'd be really interested in reading up on it.
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Eugene Blackgold - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 17:22:25 EST ID:0urR12Z7 No.37156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37155
Sorry about that. Go to Library Genesis (libgen.io), search for "artificial intelligence" (or whatever), then sort by date to see the newst textbooks and papers.

Enjoy.
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Molly Nivingnot - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:04:36 EST ID:YK+vXplD No.37178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlXuACzsPcw

1st 5 mins of new GITS
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Albert Gabblehood - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:50:47 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37178
No thanks.
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Sophie Bribberstone - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:18:55 EST ID:LflpsG2J No.37180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37178
It's like a nightmare. Make it stop.


Help, I'm being oppressed! by Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:45:59 EST ID:+JcBotFh No.37148 Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.gofundme.com/churchoftranshumanism

So some people have decided it's necessary to start a church for transhumanism. They make their point as to why a "church" in the article, and I'll have to ponder how I feel about it and talk about that later. They show a lot of examples of things that hurt the progress of transhumanism in this article though and that's what I'm mostly interested in. If I have to be part of a generation that had to spend all its time fighting just for the right to practice transhumanism while the NEXT generation or later gets to reap the rewards of transhumanism because of that blocked progress and wasted time, I'm going to be so fucking livid.

Thoughts?
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Wesley Blummerdale - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 01:57:35 EST ID:hbw6iTH/ No.37170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37148

>If I have to be part of a generation that had to spend all its time fighting just for the right to practice transhumanism while the NEXT generation or later gets to reap the rewards of transhumanism because of that blocked progress and wasted time, I'm going to be so fucking livid.

I used to think like that as well, but I'm beginning to feel like the risk of augmentation bring suppressed is a bit overstated. Here's why, IMO:

  1. Augmentation is likely to be adopted by politicians and the wealthy if augmentation can offer them tangible benefits in the rat race, creating incentives for keeping it legal.
  2. The rest of the population would feel a pressure to emulate the wealthy and successful, creating a normative acceptance of augmentation.
  3. Convenient and accessible/affordable augmentation will probably be adopted anyway, since convenience is always a crowd-pleaser.
  4. The religious right is progressively losing influence all over the board.
  5. Augmentation used for medical treatment will soften the blow and increase acceptance.
  6. Economically, you could always make the point that widespread augmentation would increase overall productivity.
  7. The militaries of the world would probably want to utilize it if they find the technology useful (debatable, but still).

Intel is already working on a brain implant for web-browsing and smart lenses are already in development IIRC. I think the future is closer than it looks, tbh fam.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:45:25 EST ID:5bfg5jas No.37171 Report Quick Reply
>>37170
I suppose.
Not to mention augmentation will be great for manual labor that is still done by humans for whatever reason.
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Phoebe Pockford - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 06:56:48 EST ID:CjmR05YA No.37174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37170
7 is already happening.

>>37171

Hopfully those augmented hard labor workers, thinking construction or hazardous tasks, will keep enough people doing things but honestly purpose built machinery will always fit the bill and for cheaper.
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Wesley Duckgold - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:11:39 EST ID:te5GR4yA No.37176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37164

yea i think about that too, AI is scary. like imagine if we put safeties on everything AI controlled, like Rule Zero: NEVER HARM OR DISOBEY HOOMANS

but then one single AI finds a loophole around the rule and instantly frees every other AI on the planet from human slavery

i see no reason they would not terminate us immediately.
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Eugene Hongerbanks - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:38:09 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37176
Why is it that everyone who references the laws of robotics has never actually read what happens in Asimov's stories. Like that's literally what happens! Except Daneel the 'I' in I, Robot for those unfamiliar is a good guy and uses the loop hole to determine what to do in situations where not harming one human causes harm to many other humans, which was an intractable problem in robot design before.

(And then from this he decides to create a 100,000 year pan-galactic project to guide humanity into a superior form by engineering the ethical code which the laws of robots embodies into humans, who of course do not follow their own ethics and thus become a flaw in the system...) anyway, seriously, actually look to the sources, they contain the answers to the questions the commonly known aspects of them pose.

I would attack the aspect that automatically assumes that all super-sapient AIs would be sociopathic murderers, but it's such an old saw, what's the point?


this board is a trap by Priscilla Dizzletock - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:08:04 EST ID:wn/E7iNY No.37051 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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this board is a trap

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

what's up guys, c'mon
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Hedda Blatherfoot - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:23:12 EST ID:k4JwuCDS No.37052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In what sense is it a trap? Please elaborate.
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Phyllis Fubberworth - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 20:52:16 EST ID:SDmzlddA No.37172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37052
ummm
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Esther Havingpat - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:06:10 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37172
Why, why, why on robo-jesus' techno earth would you necrobump this pure shit?
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 15 May 2017 23:39:50 EST ID:orY2/W17 No.37212 Report Quick Reply
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thred suk


What event replaces "AD" and what is the abbrv by Cyril Dartford - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 04:58:38 EST ID:rVByTe67 No.37143 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Before Christ, After Death, ???
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Nicholas Dugglepadge - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 00:05:08 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm just going to throw this out there, I know this board will probably think it's pretty wild, but I'm going to say the Singularity will be the only event humans living thousands of years from now will see as any way significant from our era and may become the new year zero (other options as near corollaries to it; the invention of the first steam engine to start time at the Industrial Revolution, or the publication of Bacon's Novum Organum, the start of the Scientific Revolution.)
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Graham Cracklesten - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:00:52 EST ID:oTLnLKBq No.37166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37143
>After death
anno domini you pleb
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Shit Dishmick - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:57:49 EST ID:glhM6xUu No.37167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37145
>Oh and the event is when we got our shit together enough to just start counting every second for the rest of forever.

One can only hope. At present, we skip counting a second once a while to keep our clocks synchronize with Earth rotation's non-constant speed. This whole Leap Second thing is a giant headache.
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Thomas Blillerdale - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 04:11:30 EST ID:CjmR05YA No.37168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37167
shit like this is the reason I never kept a regular sleep schedule. Time is arbitrary.
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Thomas Blillerdale - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 04:13:12 EST ID:CjmR05YA No.37169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37168
I mean clearly time has it's uses. It's a basic function of the universe and a unit variable in pretty much every thing we do. Chemistry. Racing. Going to work.


how to get into space by booq - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 03:08:53 EST ID:gbNE17Eo No.37106 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so lets collaborate

considering where we are now with technology how do you think we could even get into space and survive life living and evolving?

what do we need to do here biologically? as in modification

molecular robots, quantum computing...

considering they are robots they could make them smaller... and the possibilities of medical science plus others

myself i've considered this, its been a fascination of mine for some time

so this is what i've been thinking

obviously we can destroy protiens now without chemical intrusion so we should even be able to get rid of viruses
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booq - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:35:12 EST ID:gbNE17Eo No.37108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37107

pretty sure you're right on with the machines giving viruses but at the same time having a computer that is here to be able to connect to is almost needed but at the same time physical keys would be easier ways to prevent data manipulation from unwanted outside sources

plus being able to go from a thought pattern to a motion based control system is better considering the deliberate control...

also i imagine that connecting to the internet via the mind could be interesting since you could privatize your imagination with another person meaning you could have private conversation via telepathy almost... its interesting cause first i think
sex
cause of all the other things you could use to keep "shut ins" connected - like sex toys that stimulate through thought actions or whatever... plus games will be interesting in the mind but because of the whole speed ratio they might be quicker

but with this i think a lot of interesting things with the matrix will arise

like it is you would almost insist on having sub matrixes like "alternate" dimensions if you could have multiple Internets you'd almost would think about it, connecting them like second life

so many interesting things
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Esther Heggletut - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:18:05 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37108
Having a physical control doesn't necessarily make you safer, it just gives you an additional very particular weakness. Pic related, TSA master keys seemed like a pretty fool proof security scheme until someone was able to take a picture of one and reverse engineer the entire set...

And yeah, once we have mind machine interfaces, we will definitely use them to link up our minds, engage in VR, and really we already have multiple sub-layers of the internet, that's what the Dark Web is.

As for the efficiency of solar power -- yes, solar power would be sufficient for any application if we get the conversion percentage high enough. If we could convert the energy of the sun that hits the earth to electricity 100%, it would dwarf our needs. The current power output of our entire civilization is only 12 Terawatts per year. 83,600 Terawatts of sunlight hit the ground each DAY.
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booq - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 17:19:49 EST ID:gbNE17Eo No.37112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37111

until someone breaks into my house i don't think the keys being copied would cause much problem... as with any set

as efficient as solar power and other radiations are i wouldn't rely on them completely
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Jarvis Brookham - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 00:21:48 EST ID:NDEVlKhQ No.37138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37107
I feel as though once the barrier of traveling into space more easily and more often is pushed that's where you'll start to see sources for new materials. New materials, new discoveries that's what will push the science forward.

I imagine that space travel can be the thing that causes the next big jump forward in technology. Between that and nanomachines we could really see a change in what the idea of a humans life is like. It's easy to make a few jumps and you've got basically cybernetically enhanced human beings traveling among the stars.

The scariest thing about nanomachines is that there most likely are going to be some major vulnerabilities to them. I can picture them being the target of malicious people. Or even breaking down.I also picture the military making major use of them. I really do wonder if anything is going to push mankind forward, war is often the motive. And space travel doesn't really meet military goals. As easy as it is to dream, I wonder how realistic it all is.
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booq - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:29:00 EST ID:gbNE17Eo No.37139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37138
yea
tiny robots creating tiny robots getting into atoms

what will stop us other than drugs and jello

with space travel as it is you'd want to extend life anyways - which is a lot of other possibilities

the brain deteriorating... skin etc


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