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Remote emotion sensing and other amazing break through with spooky feels. by Ebenezer Duvingworth - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 03:51:06 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37272 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Apparently scientists at MIT are working on wi-fi heart beat monitors. And using that coupled with an ai they can now figure out your emotional state remotely. Some Minority Report shit right there.

I'm starting to get spooped. Post amazingly awesome tech that is also spoopy.
We live in interesting times. Most of our old scifi dreams are in some way a reality and now we are going beyond in some areas.

https:/ /thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2017/07/22/scientists-create-ai-that-uses-wi-fi-to-see-emotions/#.tnw_cuc8d9eQ


Currency by Archie Blatherstone - Sun, 14 May 2017 17:28:17 EST ID:vO7dNIdh No.37208 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How will currency change in the future, or will it stay the same? Will we be buying our soycaf with cold hard fiat dollars, bitcoins, labor vouchers, bottle caps, or something entirely different?

My favorite idea for future currency is TIME! All the work will be as valuable, and with the smart watches and -glasses and -boxers we can automatize the measure system so that everyone's working hours are counted laser sharp. Then you simply trade your work time to someone elses time in the form of goods.
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Doris Bummlenutch - Mon, 15 May 2017 15:45:02 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you really think about it, money already is time. Money is a representation of the value of human labor, when you get down to it, based (roughly, either on the scale of hours or years) on how much time it takes a person of a specified skill level to complete a task.

Once we have post-scarcity manufacturing, the value of human labor will plummet to basically $0 in terms of capital costs. So we will probably have to revert to the original currency; reputation. The internet already has a shade of this; after all, what's more valuable to a large company, a couple million bucks or a couple million followers on twitter?

It was like this in ancient times too. If you broke your leg on the hunt, but you were a good guy, they would probably do what they could to keep you alive, even though it would cost food for the whole tribe. But if you were an asshole, they would be more inclined just to let you die. So really, since money is just a contrivance for organizing human behavior relative to each other, once the contrivance is gone, all that will be left is the natural organization people create; whether they want to work together or not.

The concept of a reputation-based currency has been explored in fiction as the 'Whuffie' : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie
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Jenny Crockledock - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 03:13:05 EST ID:VwAfTzBf No.37266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
financial capital is so 20th century

its all about social capital baby
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Graham Billinglock - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:16:40 EST ID:9s/jJc/J No.37267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37211
>money already is time
Then why are not everyone working 9 to 5 getting paid equally?
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Samuel Murdshaw - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 15:22:51 EST ID:rBWzKUe0 No.37271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37267

yeah no it's obviously not. it's supposed to be balanced that way but in reality there is an enormous amount of convulution because economies are really just based upon power structures than any reasonable expendature of labor. im sure this will be realized as the great evil of our time soon enough.


What's the Capitol of Earth? by Matilda Babberstone - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:12:09 EST ID:taca/r37 No.37195 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, let's talk about this. If a period of Global government did arise, what do you think would become the capitol?

And sure, most of us on this board might be ready for a leaderless future run by enlightened technology, but a lot of the normals aren't there yet and they're probably gonna need a transition phase.

The obvious choices seem like the big ones. The ones with a lot of history and institutions. It'd be kind of cooler if they went with something smaller though, like how a lot of US state's biggest cities aren't the capitols.

What would you nominate?
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George Haddlefuck - Sun, 09 Jul 2017 20:37:30 EST ID:Gr3Iyo9/ No.37262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37256

Im sorry but computers dont have independent thoughts, they can't do anything theyre not programmed to do. We can simulate "intelligence" but its just pattern recognition or basic math at the end of the day.
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Hugh Bozzlefield - Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:40:57 EST ID:Fhvy4FkY No.37263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37262
Intelligence is still thought to be an emergent property. At some point we'll make a powerful enough computer with a learning algorithm that's sophisticated enough to be intelligent and then... At some point after that maybe we'll get intelligence.

I imagine our attempts to replicate intelligence or aspects of it will make it more likely or maybe we'll even be able to understand enough to replicate it before realising we've already made it.

We can't do it yet but we'll do it eventually, on purpose or by accident.
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Lydia Hingerspear - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:31:17 EST ID:LLFOBKEt No.37268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd vote for Tibet
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Phyllis Buzzforth - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 04:50:40 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37268
My geometry is the best but doesn't tibet have the tallest mountain in the world?

This is a great place, I second if a space station capital is too much.
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Phyllis Buzzforth - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 04:53:13 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37262
> its just pattern recognition or basic math at the end of the day.

Sounds like how we think tbh fam. Wait am I a robot?

Frack I'm on of those damned toasters aren't I


Brain in a Jar by Esther Susslestodge - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:19:42 EST ID:glhM6xUu No.37096 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161004-were-developing-brains-outside-of-the-body

> In fact, making a brain isn’t as difficult as you might expect. With a few simple ingredients – and an unquenchable enthusiasm for drenching things in alcohol – you too could have a miniature brain in a matter of months.

> Finally, the developing brains are enveloped in a blanket of jelly. “It’s the opposite of normal jelly – it starts off as a liquid which you pour on and it jellifies as it warms up in the incubator,” she says.

> The man-made brains are already transforming our understanding of the brain, its disorders and what makes humans special.

> So what does the future hold? Several groups are working on improving the brains, introducing a blood supply so that they can grow larger

> For many scientists, the ultimate goal is for the brains to function like normal brains

Not sure if /n/ or /wc/
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sat, 01 Jul 2017 17:01:41 EST ID:orY2/W17 No.37247 Report Quick Reply
>>37243
That's for pussies. I want to see cyborgs with crazy fighting augmentations in actual gladiator matches. Niggas will be literally completely destroying or ripping off their opponents body parts and it'll be okay, just expensive to repair.

How is that not awesome?
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Cedric Chiblingridge - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 12:56:52 EST ID:Fhvy4FkY No.37258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37247
Yeah, but will you use copper cables to re route your fear of pain or will you just have nerves of steel?
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:41:02 EST ID:1dd4reS9 No.37261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37258
That is left to personal preference, as long as it's a good show.
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Hugh Bozzlefield - Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:41:42 EST ID:Fhvy4FkY No.37264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37261
>Missing the reference.
What a shame.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:21:17 EST ID:2feL1BLa No.37265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37264
Im sorry. Idk how I could forget a reference like that.


Will we be a starfleet? by Emma Suckleworth - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 02:16:31 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37248 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do you have faith of the heart?
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:10:06 EST ID:qwVmMQcI No.37249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am 100% sure that we are capable of building ouselves a Star Trek TNG future.
However, I think what will really happen is a Warhammer 40k future. And that's my optimistic opinion, I look forward to it because it will be fascinating.
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Charles Buzzson - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 13:44:36 EST ID:f7q9aPIo No.37252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Personally, I think it will be periods of ST:TNG interspersed with periods of WH40K, with occasional flashes into moments of Ian Bank's Culture like ascendance (and perhaps occasional genuine desolation and apocalypse.)

Anywho, the present idea of the US Space Corps is garbage and must be destroyed. Is the militarization of space inevitable? Yes. Do we want to delay it as long as possible, especially considering volatile global geopolitics? Abso-fucking-lutely. Do we want the present US Administration and military-industrial complex to be remembered in time immemorial as responsible for its formation? ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OMGWTFBBQSHITNIGGERWHATREUDOING?

Besides, if it were as presently proposed and you got in, most likely you would spend 99% of your time hacking satellites and/or preventing satellite hacking from a computer chair in the back of some air force base. Not very starfleet. NASA will still be NASA, and perhaps more crucially, SpaceX will still be SpaceX (et. al) is you want to really have the faith of the heart, and go where your heart can take you.
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Awe' God !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:20:49 EST ID:NVu/UDVa No.37254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37248
MFW life is self fulfilling prophecy and with this knowledge I will ride among the stars.
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Matilda Bardgold - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:56:07 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37252
>Besides, if it were as presently proposed and you got in, most likely you would spend 99% of your time hacking satellites

No that's cyber division. Also new branch of armed forces. Only their guns are called 1337 h4ck2.

Also it's my understanding the military side will get more ships in orbit and maybe a Moon base. NASA hasn't put ships in orbit for a while. Talking conventional style manned craft that isn't a crapsule. If NASA rides with the mil-space they an keep exploring while mil-space provides expansion.

Space X can keep diggign tunnels or landing old tech rockets and virgin galactic can drive up the civies but those private programs will never ever get this species off this rock that task is too great. They can just service the regular jack offs and yes rich ass wipes are regular jack off in space because they are so stupid death is almost certain.


Other futurism forums and such by Shitting Snodhood - Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:09:24 EST ID:n/jrUNSq No.35147 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Where does everyone here get their future fix? I feel like there's maybe 5 of us posting here tops.

Seriously, roll call. Post if you check this board regularly.
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Thomas Cheddleman - Fri, 19 Jun 2015 03:09:09 EST ID:wWq4Hvrm No.36231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://n-o-d-e.net/

not bad

I particularly like the presentation
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 19:53:41 EST ID:LjAGXJLB No.36269 Report Quick Reply
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So there's this new podcast. Their first guest was Tim Canon who is one of those biohacker types; he's pretty cool. First episode is stuff that pretty much everyone here has probably covered multiple times, but their later podcasts will apparently dive deeper into particular subjects each episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCVgAX6rEMk
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Alice Dankinchare - Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:11:35 EST ID:GyH3avGu No.36270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>35233
An IRC channel would be cool. Too bad that there's really only a few posters here. I doubt an IRC channel would have an traffic at all. Probably would be just thermoptic 99% of the time
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Cyril Derringpudge - Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:53:47 EST ID:sUFLwiIy No.36271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Been lurking, replying, and posting since I suggested this board's creation on /sagan/ some years ago (how old are we again?). Always a pleasure to see you all churning out thought.

I recommend SciFi for both the cutting edge and classics of futurist thought. Also most of the sources suggested in this thread.
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Martin Wemmertodging - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 15:27:43 EST ID:6hbB0hPL No.37253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35147
Yeah.


Latest Update From Boston Dynamics by The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sun, 15 May 2016 00:29:07 EST ID:yB3CTEPr No.36569 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9SfUJg1_Y

Funny swearing version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQ1BDkGGDk

Looks amazing!!
Atlias kinda reminds me of a sleeker version of Fallout Protections...
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Emma Hengerlet - Fri, 16 Jun 2017 05:34:19 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37238
>are you implying US and UK police have the same equipment then?
>No
>However, they do in fact have the same drone equipment:
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Angus Hoddlewell - Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:35:36 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37240
>>the house is on fire
>>are you implying we should go outside
>>no, I'm saying the house is on fire. However, we should in fact go outside
>>HERP DERP DERP THAT DON"T MAKE NO SENSE REACTION MEME
Are you really this much of a special kind of stupid? I really sincerely believe you are just a troll, please go away.
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Angus Hoddlewell - Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:44:09 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37241
Russia and the US have the same tier of rocket technology, but they have different rocket equipment. The same technology =/= the same equipment. A toyota and a hyundai are the same technology, but not the same equipment, but I guess if I said the police drive the same technology cars you would go LOL IS A TOYOTA THE SAME THING AS A HYUNDAI CHECKMATE. As soon as you find something that you can go hurr durp over, even if it's obviously not true if you had half a brain cell, you start whining about it. Have you seriously been arguing with me for two weeks in bad faith just so you can make shitty snide comments in a thread no one else is reading? (except maybe Thermoptic?)

Just fuck off man, alright? The police do have secret drones no one else has, or something. There's no evidence of it, and it's not true, and you argue like a fucking twelve year old, but I'll say it if it will get you to shut up. "Yes, the police have magical flying robot dog drones that will hunt us all down in the 2020 automation riots and we uneducated rubes will never be able to own real robot technology, only almighty police god"
Fuck!
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Lydia Channingneg - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:07:40 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37242
ur trying too hard. Bottom line is robotics is changing our lives and it's going to be painful.
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Charlotte Clarryworth - Sat, 01 Jul 2017 07:01:53 EST ID:nfpEVvtM No.37246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37245
The line just above is that it could be painless and pleasant for everyone if done right.


Language by Hugh Pemmlespear - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 20:37:43 EST ID:LLbnIWz+ No.36839 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are we going to have a one world language? Which one will it be, english, esperanto, binary, 1337sp33k?
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Phineas Crobberhood - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:10:49 EST ID:pKpgIzqw No.36856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36855
I'm not saying you shouldn't interface your mind with a machine, but if I'm given the option I'll still learn language the natural way and use machine translation when I really need to. I'm not taking something as big as a language into my mind without checking through it.
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Polly Gublingstone - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 21:36:11 EST ID:5hz2OT1J No.36857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>36856
Well that's cool too. It's possible that to meaningfully learn a language in your meat-ware brain (rather than some exo-cortex) you would have to go through the process of learning it bit by bit, even if it was in a hyper-accelerated time frame managed by an AI or something, so it's possible that everyone who wasn't an AI would still have to learn languages by checking through them, even if it seemed to only take a second. I also agree that when we are downloading anything into our brains it's important to check through it. I'd just rather debug my brain code using a compiler where I have GUI to manage all the variables rather than hard-wire it the old fashioned way if I have the option, but to each their own.
Maybe the universal language will be some sort of constructed Interlac? It's a worthy question to ask what sort of language un-enhanced bio-humans will use in the far future.
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George Gimmerwitch - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 18:24:48 EST ID:Xeo3AjGs No.37181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How can I learn Esperanto? Any good resources?
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Ernest Blugglesug - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:29:24 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>36856
got news bro. you're on a PC on the internet. It's the most dark ages version of direct mind-machine interfaces. I'm manipulating your political views with my language and words.

Sad reason to hold off on the awesome tech we will see in our life times. For sure a balance to be had with security and privacy. But honestly every problem we forsee is really already upon us in some form, and is really driving the direction of society as we speak. Our civilization aware or not as a whole is currently deciding on all the shit we like here at /FTL/
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John Mashshaw - Sun, 28 May 2017 18:33:42 EST ID:d8NB0kCv No.37219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A mix of Cantonese and English would be tight


Cyberpunk revival by John Dandleshit - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:46:22 EST ID:KnZ28Bqz No.36514 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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There's been a proliferation of cyberpunk content and discussion lately, possibly a response to Internet 2.0 and the erosion of privacy and anonymity, and personal rights. I thought I'd drop a bunch of links for anyone who wants to get their cyber on. Mirrorshades obligatory from this point on.

https://nullpo.moe/
https://stormfront.org/cyber/index.html
https://penumbra.network/
http://jinteki.industries/
https://deaddrops.com/
https://freenetproject.org/
https://lainchan.org/
http://programming-motherfucker.com/
https://piratebox.cc/
http://textfiles.com/
http://project.cyberpunk.ru/
https://zeronet.io/

In general, how relevant and/or prescient do anons think the original cyberpunk/hackers and their manifesto and philosophies were, now that the Net is tightening?
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Lydia Dossleforth - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:14:52 EST ID:v3lAgZjC No.37201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://mebious.co.uk/
https://lobste.rs/
http://undeadly.org/cgi
https://boards.systemspace.link/
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Sophie Hondernitch - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 16:08:30 EST ID:1TeuWqT3 No.37202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nicholas Porryshit - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:36:54 EST ID:MRG01ooy No.37203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37105
Is shodan.io actually useful if you're a real hacker? I just started learning to hack a couple months ago and I already have a few identity and password thefts under my belt, but there really isn't any useful information there.
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Nicholas Porryshit - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:42:38 EST ID:MRG01ooy No.37204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37201
WHOA. mebious.co.uk is a cool idea for a way to communicate online. I love the random locations of text rather than lame linear lists. I'll be using it more
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Nigel Hollerdore - Fri, 12 May 2017 10:08:36 EST ID:sGNehPMW No.37206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.hacktivistvillage.com/
https://calafou.org/
https://www.cyberpunked.org/
http://www.xanadu.net/
https://dearfcc.org/


Floating Building in the Sky by Augustus Cocklekut - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:56:17 EST ID:McyvvGQe No.37185 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yeah I dont think thisll work.

Daily mail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4354612/Architect-unveils-skyscraper-hangs-asteroid.htm

lThat really IS a high rise: Sci-fi plan to hang a wandering skyscraper from asteroid orbiting Earth is unveiled Radical skyscraper design from a New York City firm will be built from the sky down, instead of the ground up
Analemma Tower is set to be suspended from an orbiting asteroid 31,068 miles (50,000 km) above the Earth
Tower will move in a figure eight pattern between the northern and southern hemispheres each day
Solar panels will generate power and water will be collected from cloud condensation and rain water
Building will be broken up into sections, such as business, worship, dining, shopping and entertainment

A New York architecture firm has unveiled designs for a skyscraper that is out of this world.

Deemed the ‘world’s tallest building ever’, Analemma Tower will be suspended from an orbiting asteroid 31,068 miles (50,000 km) above the Earth– and the only way to leave is by parachute.

The orbital path would swing the tower in a figure eight pattern between the northern and southern hemispheres each day, taking residents on a tour through different parts of the world - all in just a 24 hour orbital cycle.
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Basil Gooddock - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:56:10 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is so not actually happening. Architectural firms release outlandish plans all the time as publicity stunts, even if the plan is for something patently impossible. This one is particularly poorly done, the photoshop work looks like it was done by a high-school kid.

Building this skyscraper would probably be the biggest engineering feat in the history of the world, and since it includes neither a plan for getting the materials into orbit successfully, nor developed a new material that would be able to meet the tensile requirements of the tether (no such material or even a material close to being strong enough exists) then all this counts for is as a (very transparent) publicity stunt.
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Hamilton Somblehall - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 03:10:29 EST ID:9q+gAcyF No.37187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37186
Not to mention getting a fucking asteroid in geostationary orbit at 50,000km fromt he surface.

>It will orbit Earth!
>But it will collect rain water and be low enough to stay in place and move up and around the equator and shit lol

Fuckin space, how does it work?
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Ernest Pittham - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 03:48:57 EST ID:5uZuS+Mg No.37189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37185
>architecture firm

lol not gunna work.
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Archie Dackleridge - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:06:44 EST ID:EiHyBPqD No.37190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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But muh Tiphares!
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Doris Crivingstit - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 16:24:04 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>37190
Don't worry, we'll get our techno Tower of Babel one day, it just won't be these jackasses building it.


AI revolution and the end of the world by Angus Sebblespear - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:13:59 EST ID:PGSGDpZD No.37151 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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AI revolution thread, I found this article yesterday which i'll link below (it's a 2 part and it's pretty long) but it's really got me thinking about the potential for super intelligent AI in our lifetimes. If anyone has any other reading material on AI that would be most appreciated.

Thanks

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html
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Phineas Cummerman - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 17:04:33 EST ID:D/kzCQXr No.37155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37154

Have you got an alternate link for that first one? it's comes up as a dead link and I'd be really interested in reading up on it.
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Eugene Blackgold - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 17:22:25 EST ID:0urR12Z7 No.37156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37155
Sorry about that. Go to Library Genesis (libgen.io), search for "artificial intelligence" (or whatever), then sort by date to see the newst textbooks and papers.

Enjoy.
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Molly Nivingnot - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:04:36 EST ID:YK+vXplD No.37178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlXuACzsPcw

1st 5 mins of new GITS
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Albert Gabblehood - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:50:47 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37178
No thanks.
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Sophie Bribberstone - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:18:55 EST ID:LflpsG2J No.37180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37178
It's like a nightmare. Make it stop.


Help, I'm being oppressed! by Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:45:59 EST ID:+JcBotFh No.37148 Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.gofundme.com/churchoftranshumanism

So some people have decided it's necessary to start a church for transhumanism. They make their point as to why a "church" in the article, and I'll have to ponder how I feel about it and talk about that later. They show a lot of examples of things that hurt the progress of transhumanism in this article though and that's what I'm mostly interested in. If I have to be part of a generation that had to spend all its time fighting just for the right to practice transhumanism while the NEXT generation or later gets to reap the rewards of transhumanism because of that blocked progress and wasted time, I'm going to be so fucking livid.

Thoughts?
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Wesley Blummerdale - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 01:57:35 EST ID:hbw6iTH/ No.37170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37148

>If I have to be part of a generation that had to spend all its time fighting just for the right to practice transhumanism while the NEXT generation or later gets to reap the rewards of transhumanism because of that blocked progress and wasted time, I'm going to be so fucking livid.

I used to think like that as well, but I'm beginning to feel like the risk of augmentation bring suppressed is a bit overstated. Here's why, IMO:

  1. Augmentation is likely to be adopted by politicians and the wealthy if augmentation can offer them tangible benefits in the rat race, creating incentives for keeping it legal.
  2. The rest of the population would feel a pressure to emulate the wealthy and successful, creating a normative acceptance of augmentation.
  3. Convenient and accessible/affordable augmentation will probably be adopted anyway, since convenience is always a crowd-pleaser.
  4. The religious right is progressively losing influence all over the board.
  5. Augmentation used for medical treatment will soften the blow and increase acceptance.
  6. Economically, you could always make the point that widespread augmentation would increase overall productivity.
  7. The militaries of the world would probably want to utilize it if they find the technology useful (debatable, but still).

Intel is already working on a brain implant for web-browsing and smart lenses are already in development IIRC. I think the future is closer than it looks, tbh fam.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:45:25 EST ID:5bfg5jas No.37171 Report Quick Reply
>>37170
I suppose.
Not to mention augmentation will be great for manual labor that is still done by humans for whatever reason.
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Phoebe Pockford - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 06:56:48 EST ID:CjmR05YA No.37174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37170
7 is already happening.

>>37171

Hopfully those augmented hard labor workers, thinking construction or hazardous tasks, will keep enough people doing things but honestly purpose built machinery will always fit the bill and for cheaper.
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Wesley Duckgold - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:11:39 EST ID:te5GR4yA No.37176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37164

yea i think about that too, AI is scary. like imagine if we put safeties on everything AI controlled, like Rule Zero: NEVER HARM OR DISOBEY HOOMANS

but then one single AI finds a loophole around the rule and instantly frees every other AI on the planet from human slavery

i see no reason they would not terminate us immediately.
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Eugene Hongerbanks - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:38:09 EST ID:fokVD8qA No.37177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>37176
Why is it that everyone who references the laws of robotics has never actually read what happens in Asimov's stories. Like that's literally what happens! Except Daneel the 'I' in I, Robot for those unfamiliar is a good guy and uses the loop hole to determine what to do in situations where not harming one human causes harm to many other humans, which was an intractable problem in robot design before.

(And then from this he decides to create a 100,000 year pan-galactic project to guide humanity into a superior form by engineering the ethical code which the laws of robots embodies into humans, who of course do not follow their own ethics and thus become a flaw in the system...) anyway, seriously, actually look to the sources, they contain the answers to the questions the commonly known aspects of them pose.

I would attack the aspect that automatically assumes that all super-sapient AIs would be sociopathic murderers, but it's such an old saw, what's the point?


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