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Charles Clablingmen - Fri, 22 Feb 2019 19:05:30 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918499
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Vape>joint>pipe.

Okay, in all seriousness, this is my current feeling, but I really like the "idea" of glass and want to know if there's anything I can do to improve my experience with a pipe.

I currently like pipes the least because:
1) I can't keep a cherry lit. I'm always relighting for every hit.
2) Probably because of 1, I have to stir to make sure I'm getting the most out of my bowl.

I like joints better because I can just set it and forget it (most of the time).
The only thing I don't like about joints is that when I get down to the end, the smoke starts getting too hot for it to be enjoyable for me.

I like vapes the best (so far) because:
1) Even temperature.
2) No smell.
3) *Way* more efficient. I can use about 1/2 to 1/4 the amount of bud I would in a joint and get just as high or higher.
What I don't like is that my vape stem only holds about .1-.2 grams, and it's also hard to tell when a bowl is "done." I can keep seeing vapor clouds even after the weed is mostly spent.
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Rumple Foreskin - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 00:05:55 EST ID:/QQIwiZS No.4918566 Ignore Report Reply
just pack single hit bowls, keeping a cherry lit just wastes weed
personally, I think bong>pipe>joint>vape>blunt>bubbler (seriously, I have no clue why anyone uses bubblers, it's a worst of both worlds scenario)
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Cedric Simmledock - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 01:21:48 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918569 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918566
>just pack single hit bowls
But then isn't it a pain to have to pack multiple bowls?
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Lillian Sallyson - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 04:01:57 EST ID:K9xgDfWW No.4918573 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918566

A bubbler physically functions exactly like a tiny bong. Your shit is all retarded, bro. Think about it.
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Emma Murdhood - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 04:34:01 EST ID:xNScrk7o No.4918574 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918499

Joint = Bong = Bubbler > Bowl > Vape

The only problem with wet pipes is the frequency they need to be cleaned (like every day). If you're good with that, king.

Dry pipes have gotten harsh to me. The only benefit over a joint is that it won't canoe and you don't have to make anything. A lot of people's pipes give me the scoobs which makes me regret the hit.

Still, vaping is pretty gay. You don't have the fine tuning of a torch and bowl, vapes make me cough and gag. You don't have the armoa and flavor, it tastes like vegetables. And you don't get the full high. Totally lame.
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Emma Murdhood - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 04:37:00 EST ID:xNScrk7o No.4918575 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918574

Oh I forgot to rate the blunt. Let's put the blunt behind the dry bowl. Better than a vape, but not exactly great either. Who the fuck wraps their green in a nasty, artificially flavored cigar-dust wrap? Ack gross
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Lil' Timmy Bongsworth - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 04:57:09 EST ID:HfIakgCh No.4918576 Ignore Report Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Rumple Foreskin - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 08:56:39 EST ID:/QQIwiZS No.4918578 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918573
>A bubbler physically functions exactly like a tiny bong. Your shit is all retarded, bro. Think about it.
sure, only it's:
>harder to clean
>smaller chamber = smaller hits
>more delicate than the average pipe, without a stable base like a bong
basically, I'm saying it hits like a pipe, but has all the inconvenience of a bong and worse. you're the retarded one here
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Moleman Manyblunts - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 11:35:07 EST ID:x7DcqzZv No.4918582 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918578

Bubblers do not hit like pipes
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Graham Dockleshit - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:03:57 EST ID:GF1PtmF7 No.4918586 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918578

Okay but the size of the hit is dependent on the size of the BOWL not the size of the CHAMBER, and it still filters your smoke through water exactly like a bong. It's typically smaller than your average bong, so it's easier to clean than a bong, and not nearly as unwieldy as such.

Just saying, man. Two out of three of your points were straight up wrong, and the third one is questionable because my bubblers have all had large, stable bases, as well as having a lower center of gravity, making them quite stable.
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Cedric Simmledock - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:01:37 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918592 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918574
>You don't have the fine tuning of a torch and bowl
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just trolling and ask what you mean by this.
Vapes (the ones I've seen at least) usually have a temperature control setting. Some are just general heat levels, but others actually let you dial it in to a specific temperature.
How is this less fine-tuned than an open flame?
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Phyllis Bablinghood - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:38:26 EST ID:h6GMYQBr No.4918593 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4918574

I have the vapexhale and it tastes amazing, has good temperature control, gets me very high, and is super smooth especially with the water filtration attachment.
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Billy Penishands - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:45:49 EST ID:Ogg9kKF5 No.4918595 Ignore Report Reply
bong > vape > pipe > gravity bong > bubbler > joint > blunt

I value not wasting anything and the less smell the better, bongs notwithstanding.

As of right now I use a pipe and either pack single snaps, or pack the bowl nice and fat and then corner it and immediately put out the cherry, followed by exhaling through a smoke buddy for minimal smell. Vapes are nice but can't really afford a nice one right now.

I rate bongs so highly because there's just something about a freshly packed bong with ice in the chamber and watching the smoke rise up as you hit it, and that feeling of exhaling.
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Smirky McFlash - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:49:37 EST ID:Vto4ekD8 No.4918596 Ignore Report Reply
What I meant is, the chamber just bakes the plant. Idk, I like burning it.
>>4918592
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Adam Deepfist - Mon, 25 Feb 2019 05:03:31 EST ID:KhfcJTPi No.4918627 Ignore Report Reply
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Bong >everything
>good vape > one hitter > blunt > pipe

Bongs are the smoothest and hardest hit.
Vapes have the best taste but i think beacuse im a fiend I cant find a vape that just gets me "there". You know i get high from vapes but never BLAZED. Like a couple of cones am im toasted and its happened in 2 minutes. I somtimes do chain em, it takes forever when you have to pack and repack the vape
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Duh - Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:01:14 EST ID:gasF4m6W No.4918641 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918499

I say let them try vaping in the home with me when they turn 16, but explain that it must remain a twice a year kind of thing until they go off to college and turn 19. I'd try to instill in them that weed supposedly causes brain damage until ~25, especially under 18 or so. Hopefully they'd leave it alone under they're in college and out of my hands. Basically I would say some dumb shit like you can get high twice a year after turning 16, or up to 4x/year on the days that you choose in advance. I'd even go as far as drug testing my kids if I was suspicious. I'm not going to beat them; I just except honesty seeing as I wouldnt overreact and be a lame parent.

I waited until I was 18 nearly 19, so they should be able to as well. As for booze, I'll offer them a single glass of wine with Sunday dinner every week once they turn 15-16 assuming they're getting good grades and have good extracurriculars.
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Henry Wombleham - Mon, 25 Feb 2019 20:08:12 EST ID:N4UXjsjB No.4918652 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918499

I guess I'm the only one:

Bowl > blunt > joint > bong > vape
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Raymond Goucho - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:44:20 EST ID:go4rb6Id No.4918680 Ignore Report Reply
if i gotta smoke im doin it thru a bong cause its the least nasty way to do it
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Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:13:33 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918701 Ignore Report Reply
For everyone saying they prefer bongs, how much does your bowl hold at a time?
Are you able to smoke a whole bowl in just one hit by just torching the shit out of it until it's nothing but ash?
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Fuck Surringdale - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:18:41 EST ID:kaQbASUt No.4918702 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918499
I actually have a question as a pretty new cannabis user. A friend of mine gave me his vape (Xmax Starry v3) after I tried a joint in my first time. I think I've got this going right, medium-fine grind and decent pack, do 5 mins at 385, 5 at 392, and 5 at 400. I have done this process 5 times, with the 5th being 2 weeks after the 4th with no consumption during that time, and still barely get to a 3-4 based on a highness level chart I have seen around here. This is with 3 different strains as well. Am I doing something wrong or should I just stick to combustion?
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Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:45:20 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918703 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918702
How many hits are you taking? How long of a draw each time?
Are you sure you're getting vapor? Can you taste it or see a cloud if you exhale toward a light?

My gf used to say she couldn't feel anything off my vape, but I'm pretty convinced she wasn't inhaling. She would just suck in her cheeks like she was sucking through a straw, but without inhaling anything.
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Fuck Surringdale - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:47:19 EST ID:kaQbASUt No.4918704 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918703
Thats definitely what I was doing the first time, but last time was 10 20-30 second pulls and 5 second holds in about 10 mins. There's definitely vapor, but I don't have much context for how large a cloud should be. The friend who gave it to me just kinda shrugged after I explained my problem, he's moved away since so he can't really tell me if I'm inhaling wrong or something.
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Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:07:08 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918706 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918704
In my experience, you don't get thick, milky clouds like you see in the videos, but when I exhale toward a light I definitely see a constant (thin) cloud of vapor coming out pretty much the entire exhale.

If you're seeing anything along those lines, then I don't know what to tell you. I use an Arizer Solo, and I will get stoned off my ass from only about a dozen 10 second draws. In my experience, the temperature setting hasn't had much impact on the high, just on the flavor of the vapor.
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Fuck Surringdale - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:15:55 EST ID:kaQbASUt No.4918707 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918706
Yeah, a lot of the research I did suggested temperature stepping, since I might be high but it might not be the high I'm looking for until higher temps. I dunno man, I got a couple grams of a 4th new strain to try tonight. I think this time, worst case scenario, I'm just gonna keep changing out that oven every 15 mins at 392 until I have finally reached a 10. The highest I have been in my very short time smoking so far was when I had a joint, 40mg of edibles, and then just casually sucked on one of those oil pens for the rest of the night, and even then it just made the Arma 2 videos I was watching look very realistic and I didnt know if I had asked something that I had asked 5 seconds before. I'd still put it at like a 6 tops. I don't want to be a high chaser because i think that might lead somewhere dangerous, but I just want to experience what all these other stoners throughout my life have been.
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Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:34:51 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918708 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918707
>The highest I have been in my very short time smoking so far was when I had a joint, 40mg of edibles, and then just casually sucked on one of those oil pens for the rest of the night
It sounds like your problem may just be tolerance then. If you can ride out all that in one sitting then the amount you're going to get out of a portable vape probably won't affect you much at all unless you're just plowing through bowl after bowl.

How many grams are you vaping in a single session?

For comparison, I have a pretty low tolerance, so I only need about .1g in my vape to get me there (equivalent to smoking about .25g from a joint or 10mg of edibles in my experience).
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Fuck Surringdale - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:42:13 EST ID:kaQbASUt No.4918709 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918708
I thought this too, but before December 2018 I had never smoked before, it didn't make sense for me to have a tolerance.
I'm gonna out myself as a complete noob here, but I don't know how many grams go into a single session to be sure. Supposedly the XMAX Starry v3 has an 0.2g bowl, and I was doing 1 session (as previously described, 5 minutes at 385, 5 at 392, 5 at 400 so 15 mins total, probably about 15ish good pulls) and seeing how I felt after an hour, then doing another, then giving up because if I was gonna go through a half gram of weed it would have gotten me much higher in a joint. I have attempted 48 hour and a weeklong tolerance break, with the weeklong one even ending in some "resensitation" process I saw somewhere.

Perhaps partially related however, edibles don't seem to do much of anything at all. I think the most I've eaten at once was 100mg and didn't feel much, which might not be a lot to some people but based on my reading that should be enough to put someone whos only been smoking every other day maybe for a couple weeks on their ass.
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Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:50:11 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918710 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918709
You may just have a naturally high tolerance (higher than me at least).

When vaping, the effects come on pretty quickly, so if you're waiting an hour in between sessions, you're really just giving it time to wear off.

In my personal experience, I do about 10-12 draws per session (pausing 30 seconds to a minute between each one to let it heat back up), and I'm usually feeling it pretty strongly by the time I reach the end.

Based on your tolerance level, I would recommend you just keep hitting over and over until you stop seeing vapor when you exhale. Wait 10 minutes and if you don't feel it, do another bowl.

If you're still not feeling it, but know from experience that smoking the same amount would get you there, then I would just switch back to smoking.
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Fuck Surringdale - Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:54:14 EST ID:kaQbASUt No.4918711 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918710
Yeah, I think if after tonight's experiment I don't get actually high I'm just gonna buy a pipe to smoke the rest of my herb. I definitely want to stick to flower, I like actually seeing the plant I'm consuming (and having grow dates/locations helps) rather than that weird oil crap again. The cartridges would do okay, but like no shit they're 80%+ THC, wouldn't taste like weed but instead like candy.

People say a lot of good things about water pipes and getting higher though. I dunno Im just some white kid who's never done anything more than get shitfaced once but it feels like I'm crossing a new line if I'm buying one. I suppose it is a line I WANT to cross if I want that 10 though.
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Phyllis Bangerstone - Wed, 27 Feb 2019 00:21:38 EST ID:xNScrk7o No.4918716 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918701

I don't torch the shit out of my bowls, I get a cherry lit and rip it trying to finish it, or I'll just cut the bowl to begin with.

Use your inhale to combust the bud after it's lit, the cherry will spread anyway. Torching it shortens the bowl.
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Esther Geshhall - Wed, 27 Feb 2019 00:27:12 EST ID:jDnmDx2N No.4918717 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918701
>Are you able to smoke a whole bowl in just one hit by just torching the shit out of it until it's nothing but ash?
Fuck no, my throat would die.
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Imahoe Dickweed - Wed, 27 Feb 2019 01:17:05 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4918719 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918716
>>4918717
Sorry, aside from basic mechanics, I'm totally ignorant of bong use. I'm trying to figure out how to get the biggest hit all at once without using concentrates.
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Esther Geshhall - Wed, 27 Feb 2019 01:22:29 EST ID:jDnmDx2N No.4918720 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918719
Big hits aren't worth it imho, it's nicer to cruise on small hits for a longer period.
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Edward Duckcocke - Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:01:23 EST ID:0A9KQ5ZG No.4918761 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918586
>easier to clean than a bong
I think bubblers are harder to clean than a bong and a pipe. With a bong, I can take out the bowl piece and ash it out, then clean it however. With a pipe I can flip it over and knock out most the burnt stuff and ash it out, then clean it however. With a bubbler, I can not flip it over nor remove the part collecting ash. At worst, I get to clean up a mixture of ash water. I guess I can pour iso alcohol in the carb and give it the shake & rinse. I enjoy dry hitting a bubbler, and it holds a cherry well.
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Archie Bliffingkudge - Thu, 28 Feb 2019 00:48:35 EST ID:VPDZVMoc No.4918770 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918719
if you want a dab high without doing a dab then knife hits are the way to go. press up some chunks of kief then mush it between some hot knives. hold it all in till you wanna puke. this will 100% get anyone high as fuck. it is also the most economical way of getting very stoned.
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John Crusslesotch - Thu, 28 Feb 2019 11:53:31 EST ID:kaQbASUt No.4918789 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918710
>>4918711
Well, I have a fundamental misunderstanding of what being high is, or I have some kind of retard strength tolerance despite barely smoking at all. 2 joints, 2 full packs into the vape, probably just a gram to myself, and I'd say the highest I got was a 7. Maybe. I'm going by a chart in the OP of another thread here at the moment, except I don't have distraction issues, don't laugh more, etc. My head just kinda buzzes and only when I really try do I actually get anything that could remotely be called "munchies."

I dunno man, when I'm sober I look forward to it (probably out of boredom, tbh) but during and after I'm usually just kinda disappointed.
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Corky McRapekids - Mon, 04 Mar 2019 19:30:30 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4919013 Ignore Report Reply
All right, I got a bong over the weekend and tried it out.
I didn't find it to be much better/easier than a regular spoon pipe.
I really want to enjoy it, so hopefully someone can point out if I'm doing something wrong.

First, the bowl only holds about .05g, so in order to smoke my usual amount, I have to go through 3-4 bowls.
Second, I have to keep relighting the bowl. I can't keep a cherry lit, and I can only take the tiniest of draws on each hit, otherwise the smoke is way too hot and it sends me into a hacking fit.

I will admit that some of the smaller, cooler draws actually had the best flavor compared to any other method I've used to date, but taking hits that size, I'd probably have to relight the same bowl 10+ times just to finish it, and then repeat the process for 3 more bowls.
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Doyle Mustachio - Tue, 05 Mar 2019 13:14:05 EST ID:A5U9TJxP No.4919041 Ignore Report Reply
I've never felt like a vaporizer got me all that high. Or in the least the type of high I was looking for.

If that is your problem with joints then get longer papers and add a filter to it.
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David Bongman - Wed, 06 Mar 2019 15:48:55 EST ID:AqpxpJLu No.4919097 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919013

What's people's problem with relighting a bowl? A cherry just means you're wasting weed if you're not hitting it.
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Edwin Hubberfog - Wed, 06 Mar 2019 19:10:57 EST ID:EAfTuAkr No.4919099 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919013
you need a bigger bowl. bongs > bowls all day my man, when you can get the bong hitting right you won't wanna stop hitting it. with bongs you can put ice, no ice, hot water, tea, etc. filters out nasty shit that would get in your throat and lungs and cools down the smoke, what's not to love
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Barry Cockethroat - Wed, 06 Mar 2019 21:50:39 EST ID:D29dU5G4 No.4919104 Ignore Report Reply
>and it's also hard to tell when a bowl is "done." I can keep seeing vapor clouds even after the weed is mostly spent.
It's simple, if you're not getting high then the bowl is done.
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Nathaniel Murdspear - Wed, 06 Mar 2019 23:12:55 EST ID:lo3YrNAN No.4919108 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919104
This. I don't think people realize weed turns into ash as you smoke it. If the bowl tastes like burnt chicken, it's time for a reload.
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Shitlick McSnifflewitz - Thu, 07 Mar 2019 20:39:12 EST ID:8CnxImzV No.4919123 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919108
Why would burnt weed taste like burnt chicken when it's actually just burnt weed?
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Mavis Fudgecurl - Thu, 07 Mar 2019 21:25:38 EST ID:LAY71bRw No.4919126 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919123
To let you know weed aint vegan of course.
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Shitlick McSnifflewitz - Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:11:55 EST ID:8CnxImzV No.4919131 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919126
>weed aint vegan
FUUUCK
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Jack Dreshkot - Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:59:13 EST ID:fHxjOPc/ No.4919139 Ignore Report Reply
I've always preferred glass over joints.


I feel like joints just an inefficient high of getting high. Bowls get you more bang for your buck. I guess they're alright if your smoking mids or reggie, but with good shit bowls are the way to go. I also hate when joints getting all resiny and shit too. The only time I'd really prefer a joint is if I'm at a concert or something. Even then I think blunts are better, they burn slower and you get the taste of the blunt wrap.


I honestly and sadly don't have much experience with vapes though
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Claude Offenbauker - Fri, 08 Mar 2019 06:31:40 EST ID:lo3YrNAN No.4919152 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919123
I had one metal pipe that started tasting like teriyaki chicken back in the day
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Priscilla Dartdale - Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:12:24 EST ID:sYHjsZzM No.4919278 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919131
No its straight instead
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Aubrey Cottle - Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:24:32 EST ID:/egvBZ+N No.4919280 Ignore Report Reply
>wanting the cherry to stay lit
unless you have the piece glued to your mouth whats the point? It just a waste of smoke when it stays lit
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Donald Duckington - Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:07:32 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4919297 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919280
Because I can only take very small hits without burning my lungs, and it's a pain to relight it every single time. I want to just light it once and then take hits as desired, like a joint.
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John Hurringdock - Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:41:44 EST ID:el1Z1160 No.4919651 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919297
All right, after a bunch of experimentation over the weekend, I figured this out.

1) I can "keep the cherry lit" by just sticking a joint in the pipe's downstem instead of using a bowl.
2) I finally get why people say vaping doesn't get them high. Compared to smoking from a bong or joint, it takes way longer, because the hits are so much smaller. But gram for gram, a vape is still more efficient than a pipe, you just have to work at it longer.
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Barnaby Dammlewell - Tue, 19 Mar 2019 00:15:23 EST ID:Q5DEsR+H No.4919659 Ignore Report Reply
>>4918641
Fag
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Carol-Anne Pretzelfuck - Tue, 19 Mar 2019 01:43:34 EST ID:LAY71bRw No.4919660 Ignore Report Reply
>>4919297
Sounds like you should get into making tinctures instead.


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