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Consulting the Gods

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- Sun, 29 Sep 2019 06:17:27 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928911
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I believe, that we are living in some beings mind. As well as inside of every one of us, theres a world where is people living. And I believe, that in this situation, marihuana has a role. It allows us to connect to the host-mind that we live in.

Marihuana lets us escape from the selfish body and mind that operates most of time. It causes some level of ego-death, so you can experience existence at its purest form, without a filter or narrow minded selfish perspective. That is very good, everyone likes altruistic people.

Marihuana as its best is like being hugged and nursed by a celestial being. It guides you to think about the things that are most important in your current state of being, so you learn important things and enjoy life's joys more intense. Sexual things, eating and meditating becomes much more potent, which can be a strong cure against so called " dying inside."

But most of people wont find the promised land that marihuana can provide. That is because we fuck up the initating ritual, we give marihuana to beginners at parties or in situations that are too hectic for the miracle to happen, and newbies gets scared of the intensity and weirdness of their first marihuana trips. That is why when you offer marihuana to a new person, you gotta be gentle and think beforehand what is ideal situation to let the magic happen. So its good if you have a mentor of some kind, but its most recommended to learn the basics on your own, like meditating in your home and enjoying the intensities of pleasures. After you stabilize the high, you can start connecting to other stoners via group meditation, which can be a lot more powerful than solo meditating, since when you share a experience with another being, its somehow " more real." than most of solo cases.

But somehow theres a war going on. Normal people in their normal state somehow fear people that smokes marihuana. When they see stoners laughing, they became aware of their own insecurities and narrow-mindedness, so they resent the state of marihuana high. Even when you quit smoking and become " normal", theres fight between the states, atleast if your smoking career is at its first steps. Since your thoughts are so different when you are high, you dont respect those thoughts that much anymore, so it is important that you remember the intensified pleasures and the laughter, and the amplified ability to share mental images and ideas with other smokers.

Smoking is the best kind of spiritual habit nowadays. You dont have to trust some yoga guru or believe in some old books with strange ideas. Smoking marihuana gives you experiences tailored just to you, and it is interesting and pleasureful. This is what we need to overcome our competetive and selfish habits, and it has potential to get us as a species to a new level, level of understanding and compassion.

Dont be cynical or afraid.
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Just a guy - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 09:15:00 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928917 Reply
>>4928911
This is my first post in 420chan in ten years, and I kind of hoped for comments or even discussion.

I dont know what you usually do here nowadays.
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Martin Billingfield - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:39:12 EST jDnmDx2N No.4928926 Reply
>Hasn't been to 420chan in 10 years
>Probably didn't smoke for that long either
Aww bless, it's like you're a newbie all over again complete with the bullshit 'spiritual awakening' phase.
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Kirtaner Aster - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:25:12 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928936 Reply
>>4928926
Yes I know how I sound. Very naiive and hopeful. But how do you say that marihuana affects people at its best, if you say I'm somehow wrong? Am I too idealistic?

I know that if you smoke a lot, it kind of stops affecting. You dont meet your maker anymore. Your high gets influenced too much by your everyday thinking, so things stops happening. Could I say like this?
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Jimny Flod - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:42:34 EST qT7hHub/ No.4928938 Reply
I'm currently high as shit, how can I help you?
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Just a guy - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:49:28 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928939 Reply
>>4928938

Am I right? And is this post beautiful? Should I try to make a huge congregation of marihuana smokers? Like a cult. I'd like to build a cult.>>4928938
>>4928938
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Just a guy - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:14:05 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928941 Reply
>>4928940

Hmm. Ok. I was a little bit proud of my talk but it seems it doesn't fancy you. Could you give a better review about the pleasures of smoking marihuana? Am I wrong or is my talk just too hard to swallow? Could you help me with this? Hassle sounds bad.

I tried to evade word God, but I feel that in some of my smoking sessions I had some huge celestial being with me, so why not use the common word God. Or is it too much?
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Just a guy - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:24:15 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928943 Reply
>>4928940

But one of my main propositions is that marihuana makes you less selfish. This is important for me, do you think I'm wrong in that or is it less important in your opinion?
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Martin Billingfield - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:28:03 EST jDnmDx2N No.4928944 Reply
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Bro, I had my "I want to get to know more about God/religion/spirituality" phase about a decade ago when I was still a fresh and impressionable stoner. A lot has happened that just crushes that whole hopeful attitude, including the fact that every religious organisation acts really fucking creepy and cult-like.

I love listening to Alan Watts as much as any other filthy hippie, but c'mon. Look at the bullshit going on, what kind of good-willed omnipotent/omniscient divine entity lets this shit happen? God is as horribly flawed as we, his creations, are.
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Martin Billingfield - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:35:30 EST jDnmDx2N No.4928948 Reply
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>>4928943
Okay, this I can actually sort of agree on.
>Smoking weed = Happiness, lack of anxiety/stress/etc.
>Happiness, etc. = More open to helping others
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Just a guy - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:36:51 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928949 Reply
>>4928944

Yes. This is important. The problem is that gods aren't in fact omnipotent. They are the ideals, but we most of time fail to live up to their standards. The ego is the problem that separates us from the loving light of supreme beings.

God gives beauty to those who are responsible enough to carry it with dignity. God makes selfish and treacherous people ugly and nasty looking, so we get a warning beforehand.

Of course tsunamis and diseases aren't part of " gods plan", microscopic nature is like a machine, AIDS is just a particle that happens to multiply in a fancy way.

If you deny that gods don't affect us when we are high of marihuana, how about 5-meo-DMT? Do you agree that you can connect with gods with that?

Yes churches are toxic mostly. But spirituality via substances seems to be just so much easier and potent than years of meditation and following random gurus.

What else can save us, if not marihuana, MDMA nor DMT?
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Martin Billingfield - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:43:17 EST jDnmDx2N No.4928950 Reply
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>>4928949
>God gives beauty to those who are responsible enough to carry it with dignity. God makes selfish and treacherous people ugly and nasty looking, so we get a warning beforehand.
Bruh.
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Just a guy - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:50:04 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928951 Reply
>>4928950

Oh yes

It is kind of a scary thought to us secular science-people that gods would do things like that. God seems so remote to us, so its a weird to think that gods would make people into some form or another.

But I believe that if you are not trustworthy, it will show in your face at some point. Karma or something like that.
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Augustus Brommerstock - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:00:51 EST 7gYVf4t3 No.4928952 Reply
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Unfortunately I meet a lot of stoners who think they are Jesus and should be hailed as the messiah, who would never be caught feeding the hungry or healing the sick. I think as long as you smoke and you do nice things for people you are doing God's work.
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Bongdrop Macgyver - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 17:59:41 EST 5eoL8PoN No.4928955 Reply
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>>4928951
BRUH
i really liked those fable 2 mechanics too. I enjoyed being super evil but very vain so I had wicked awesome demon horns and an imposing face
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Sidney Poblingford - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 20:01:00 EST XnCmZbgZ No.4928959 Reply
>>4928911
Bruh it's just a plant with a bunch of neurotransmitters in it
You smoke it and your ECS goes bananas
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Just a guy - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:39:06 EST 1eYl5Mz7 No.4928985 Reply
>>4928959

Bruh everything looked from outside looks stupid and materialistic. " You are just a piece of electric-stuff operating under the laws of physics ". Still you are conscious and have a something called a soul.

Its just different perspective, empirical science speaks via different concepts, as when you describe yourself via concepts of emotions and ideas, it describes the very same thing but in a lot of different manner.

" Its just electricity going in your brain " ain't much of an argument. Things look different from outside perspective than in inside perspective.

But I'm glad we are having this discussion.
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Sidney Poblingford - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:31:06 EST XnCmZbgZ No.4928989 Reply
>>4928985
I disagree that we have a soul
That emotions are a different level if abstraction than the electrical impulses that they're comprised of doesn't mean they're immaterial
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Barnaby Hurrychot - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:22:59 EST ApF3MmKB No.4928992 Reply
>>4928989

Not saying that those are immaterial, but kind of saying that material isn't just dull meaningless stuff, material perspective is how we look a thing or being outside, and mental perspective of the same object is how it feels inside of being.

What do you mean by theres no soul? Do you deny every kind of description of the word or do you deny some specific ways of defining it? Its like saying there isn't any kind of god, when god is just a word that everyone can make their own version of that concept. Some use the word god as others use word universe, or some use word god close to meaning of how older traditions spoke of ancestors or spirits or something like that.

You can't oppose a word, you can oppose some of its descriptions or vocalisations.
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Just a guy - Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:29:19 EST ApF3MmKB No.4929027 Reply
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>>4928911

Then we have this thing called " the sixth sense"

That haven't been proved because we radiate only very specific and most important feelings around us, so it won't work perfect when tested. But its most certainly true. There is thing called telepathy, and that's just how nature is. The scientific basis to this can be thought as the quantum entanglement, which means that there are spooky effects going on that doesn't a have length requirement how the particles operate on some level.

Having strong telepathy experience while tripping can be bit scary, since that concept isn't very strong in our culture and people freak out thinking that they've lost their minds, and that's why people won't share those experiences that much. But those are true and real nontheless.

So everything is really very much interconnected. You can send thoughts to trees and animals also, and that means you make a bond. Everything talks, everything thinks, and by strong prayer and meditation you can reach out to other ideal beings and flows. Its cool. Talking to trees very much calms me down and makes me feel good too. Trees are cool.

Ok. Feel free to attack if that is what you feel!
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Reginald Windsor - Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:32:36 EST bpdqpz+9 No.4929028 Reply
>>4929027
Or perhaps none of that is as reliable as our own experience and our own overt, proactive measures we can use to assert control over our lives.
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Just a guy - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 12:24:39 EST Xb6xQ2S3 No.4929090 Reply
>>4928911

Oh. It seems that I've called the substance with a funny name. It's actually marijuana, and nobody felt right to correct me.

In Finland we have this nice word for marijuana, we call it the cloud. " You guys have any cloud? "
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Stuart Erection - Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:25:48 EST zjmrKjcA No.4929578 Reply
I am one of your gods, your eidolons. Pay homage to me and none other.
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Outdo Drobro - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 02:47:44 EST Ewh4PP4j No.4929604 Reply
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>>4928911
Is there ever a being "normal" again? Seems to me when I stopped smoking I couldn't really connect with those who don't smoke, their thoughts weren't as open as those who do smoke.>>4928911
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Isabella Gishwet - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:10:57 EST GUDjQIv5 No.4929618 Reply
good post OP. so how would you recommend cannabis to be consumed? smoked in a joint? a vaporizer? also what do you think about just closing your eyes and listening to music while consuming? doing that gave me the deepest trip experiences i've had yet.
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Outdo Drobro - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:42:09 EST Ewh4PP4j No.4929619 Reply
>>4929610
I don't think I would call it growing up, I can converse with someone who is older than I am and it is not the same thing.

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