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!BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:46:21 EST sknQFEsq No.6359810
File: 1582145181674.jpg -(1126449B / 1.07MB, 1400x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. AEW Dynamite: CODY VS WARDLOW/MOX VS COBB/LUCHA BROS VS OMEGA AND HANGMAN
>Watch AEW Dynamite with /wooo/ in /wooo/tube - http://taim.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt at 8pm Eastern//1am London. At 7pm Eastern//Midnight London a replay of AEW Dark will lead into Dynamite. On tonight's show:
  • Steel Cage Match: Cody vs. Wardlow
  • Chris Jericho's Bounty Hunter Jeff Cobb vs. Jon Moxley.
  • AEW Tag Team Championship match: Kenny Omega & Adam Page (c) vs. The Lucha Brothers.
  • Tag Team Battle Royal to earn a Championship match at Revolution PPV: The Young Bucks, SCU, The Strong Hearts, The Best Friends, The Dark Order, Private Party, Butcher & The Blade, Santana & Ortiz, H2, Jurrasic Express.
>Cody will face Wardlow inside a steel cage
Tonight's episode of Dynamite will see the first-ever steel cage match on AEW history as Cody faces Wardlow. Cody has to beat Wardlow tonight, if he wants to get his hands on MJF at the Revolution PPV on 29th February. Cody will have a tough task ahead of him tonight when he goes one on one with 'Mr. Mayhem' himself and there's more than a good chance that MJF will be on hand to make things as difficult as possible.

>Jeff Cobb faces Jon Moxley in his first AEW match
The main event of last week's episode of Dynamite saw Moxley take on the Inner Circle's Santana. Moxley got the victory but was then ambushed by the Inner Circle. Chris Jericho then called out his hired gun Jeff Cobb. He marched down to the ring and took Moxley on a tour of The Islands. Cobb isn't signed full-time with AEW and will face Moxley tonight in his first match for the company. Can Moxley beat the odds again and pick up another win tonight?

>Will we see new Champions crownded?
There has been tension in The Elite in recent weeks, stemming from problems between Hangman Page and The Young Bucks. Page and Omega will defend their Titles against The Lucha Bros tonight and will be hoping that there's no distractions to get in their way. The Lucha Bros are at the top of their game and will have a good chance of leaving with the titles if Omega and Page are not at the top of their game.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:57:39 EST iLikEToleARn No.6359864 Reply
Constantly acting like she can't take anything she did at mania where non-wrestlers are involved, even the slightest, and while I'm typing this was supposed to be allowed to exist only to hotshot the main events that led to a haggard ugly woman and she was basic, but I'm using his AT/AW contracts, TV, ed nordholm.

WWE NXT: Takeover fallout and Dream vs Strong

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!BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:53:30 EST sknQFEsq No.6359813
File: 1582145610540.jpg -(113568B / 110.91KB, 1125x633) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. WWE NXT: Takeover fallout and Dream vs Strong
>Watch WWE NXT with /wooo/ in /wooo/2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2 and /wooo/alt2 - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt2 at 8pm Eastern//1am London. On tonight's show:
  • The Velveteen Dream vs. Roderick "don't talk to me or my son ever again" Strong.
  • WWE NXT Cruiserweight Championship bout: Jordan "Jaysus, the head on 'em" Devlin (c) vs. Lio Rush.
  • Chelsea Green (with Robert Stone (formerly known as Robbie E tho, now doing a Tony Khan gimmick)) vs. Kayden Carter (Formerly known as Lacey Lane, Afro-Ninja)
>The Velveteen Dream returns to action against Roderick Strong
> Tonight, The Velveteen Dream will compete for the first time since October, when he goes one-on-one with Roderick Strong. Strong — who dethroned Dream as NXT North American Champion — along with The Undisputed ERA forced Dream out of action by brutally attacking him. His Purple Highness didn’t forget that, and made sure The Undisputed ERA wouldn’t forget him either. Dream attacked The Undisputed ERA upon his return before revealing a new pair of tights bearing the image of Roderick Strong’s wife, Marina Shafir, and son. Strong was fuming one week later and demanded an apology from Dream. He didn’t get one. Instead, The Velveteen Dream once again played his mind games, showing off his new ring gear once again, sending Strong into a rage. What will happen when these bitter rivals clash?

>NXT Cruiserweight Champion Jordan Devlin defends against Lio Rush
>NXT Cruiserweight Champion Jordan Devlin will make his first defense of the title tonight on USA Network, when he takes on No. 1 Contender and former champion Lio Rush. The Man of The Hour defeated another former titleholder, Angel Garza, in a thrilling battle to earn the right to challenge Devlin. But the current champion quickly arrived to tell his challenger not to think too big, as Rush is just the next stop on the Jordan Devlin Cruiserweight Championship Tour. Will Rush make Devlin eat his words, or will the champion show why you never bet against an ace?

>Chelsea Green l…
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Icarus - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:06:38 EST BlrIoG3o No.6359870 Reply
>Chelsea is clearly being buried by WWE for helping out Tessa
did you mean to say "helping out with burying Tessa"?

WWE Raw Ratings – Feb. 17, 2020 – Up

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- Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:06:00 EST dPAgl6kX No.6359869
File: 1582149960752.jpg -(79740B / 77.87KB, 1280x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. WWE Raw Ratings – Feb. 17, 2020 – Up

>Monday’s Raw drew an average of 2,437,000 viewers on USA Network, up from last week’s 2,337,000 viewers.

>That’s Raw’s highest number so far this year, mostly due to a relatively strong first and second hour. The third hour saw a huge drop, which brought the average down.

>Raw was #1, #2 and #4 on cable for the day with a 0.79 average rating in the 18-49 demographic, slightly down from last week’s 0.8 rating.

>This time last year, the February 18, 2019 Raw drew 2,771,000 viewers. The February 19, 2018 Raw drew 3,283,000 viewers.

>Hourly breakdown:
8PM: 2,671,000
9PM: 2,559,000
10PM: 2,082,000
Headbanger Mosh - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:12:03 EST 8x+c9KeG No.6359873 Reply
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>The Bachelor drew 6.59 million viewers
>ABC was #1 for the night in Network broadcasts

Gif Thread?

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- Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:46:59 EST 5yCsuziY No.6359697
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gif thread
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:03:34 EST YILbGvXF No.6359867 Reply
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Scott! no!
Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:05:41 EST YILbGvXF No.6359868 Reply
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What is Bill listening to?

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- Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:25:50 EST /YsP7rdR No.6359835
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Hulk Hogan - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:49:48 EST T27T75Qv No.6359858 Reply
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Trill Clinton with the GOAT level taste
Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 17:01:31 EST YILbGvXF No.6359866 Reply
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bring back the attitude era thumbs up if you agree

In the year 2020, where do you stand on HHH

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- Mon, 17 Feb 2020 18:36:01 EST glviNrOU No.6359204
File: 1581982561131.jpg -(3480526B / 3.32MB, 2356x3020) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. In the year 2020, where do you stand on HHH
Do you like him?
Do you hate him
Do you still hold him for the Reign of Terror?
Good worker?
Good booker?
Better worker than booker or better booker than a worker?
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Indie Wrestling General Threadhausen #22

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:17:01 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6349567
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Continuing from last thread >>6283406

>Weekly tube blocks where indie promotions can be found include Britwres Tube on Sundays at 3pm EST / 8pm GMT for the UK and Ireland indie scene (when there is no live event scheduled) and Indie Tube on Thursdays at 4pm EST / 9pm GMT for the indie scene outside of the UK & Ireland. All can be watched in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo.

>PCW ULTRA Mutiny airs weekly on Wednesdays at 10pm EST / 3am GMT in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo.
>Beyond Wrestling Uncharted Territory airs weekly on Thursdays at 8pm EST / 1am GMT in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 2pm EST / 7pm GMT in /wooo/tube.
>RMP Charged airs weekly also on Thursdays at 9pm EST / 2am GMT in /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2.
>Championship Wrestling From Hollywood airs weekly on Fridays at 11pm EST / 4am GMT in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Saturdays at 12:10pm EST / 5:10pm GMT in /wooo/tube.
>VOD and live events are shown in the tubes as well so keep an eye on /wooo/ for information on those as they're scheduled and updated in the "Upcoming Events" section on /wooo/tube.

Here is an assortment of notable indie wrestling websites and streaming services:

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AEW/Impact/MLW/ROH General Thread #12: The Brawl To Settle It All

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- Tue, 28 Jan 2020 13:14:34 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6352101
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Continuing from last thread >>6317302

This thread is for general discussion of AEW, Impact, MLW and ROH, which are four major non-WWE promotions in the US and Canada that have national television, streaming and PPV deals.

>MLW Fusion airs on Mondays at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo. Replays air on Tuesdays at 11am EDT / 4am BST in /wooo/tube.
>Impact! airs on Tuesdays at 8pm EDT / 1am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Wednesdays at 1:30pm EDT / 6:30pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Impact Xplosion also airs on Tuesdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Wednesdays at 1:20pm EDT / 6:20pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>ROH Wrestling also airs on Tuesdays at 10:10pm EDT / 3:10am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Wednesdays at 12:30pm EDT / 5:30pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>AEW Dark airs on Tuesdays at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2. Replays air on Wednesdays at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt.
>AEW Dynamite also airs on Wednesdays at 8pm EDT / 1am BST in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt. Replays air on Thursdays at 2:20pm EDT / 7:20pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>AEW Live Specials/PPVs, Impact Plus/Twitch/PPV events, MLW Live Specials/PPVs, and ROH TV Taping/On Tour/PPV events will be shown when scheduled in the tubes.

>All Elite Wrestling

>Impact Wrestling
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DASH Chisako - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 09:38:27 EST iaBqYU2l No.6359739 Reply
AEW might get one of them, but they won't use them. They use maybe 3-5 POC
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>AEW, MLW, Impact Wrestling and other companies use AAA stars at times. The Mexican pro wrestling company has arrangements with many different companies. This might become an issue eventually.

>During Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer said that there are currently issues with AAA’s agreement with other companies. Impact Wrestling was especially mentioned as well as AEW. Apparently, there are some moves being made, but that’s nothing new in the pro wrestling business.

“Trying to do that in this day and age, there’s always going to be issues. So, I mean Impact definitely doesn’t like the idea that thye’re working with other companies. AEW, you know there’s always stuff going on. It’s the wrestling business. There’s always stuff going on.

>AAA has a lot of great stars who could make a lot of money in America. Things need to be worked out in regards to which company AAA is going to send them to.

>The company must also remain aware of their Mexican fan base. They don’t want to essentially become a booking company for Latin American talent arranging American dates.

fuck it, nwa general thread

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- Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:32:25 EST iVSK5WcY No.6256745
File: 1561613545201.jpg -(52317B / 51.09KB, 900x547) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. fuck it, nwa general thread
i remember asking a while ago if we could have an nwa general to keep up with all the updates about the brand
not getting a clear response from the mods, i decided to make my own thread, with blackjack and hookers

>NWA Power airs on Tuesdays at 6:05pm EST / 11:05pm GMT in /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2. Replays air on Wednesdays at 12:20pm EST / 5:20pm GMT in /wooo/tube.
>NWA IPPVs will be shown when scheduled in the tubes.


dont know what else to add
have a fine day

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Rizokahn - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:40:54 EST hTSUcuhc No.6359808 Reply
Brody King vs Nick Aldis sounds like a good match. My only concern is that if Aldis is going through Villain Enterprises, why doesn't Scurll go against Strictly Business?

Women's Wrestling General Thread: Cutest in the World Edition

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- Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:12:39 EST LUMg+nxK No.6355699
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>WOW - Women of Wrestling, when in season, airs weekly on Wednesdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo. Replays air on Thursdays at 10:50am EDT / 4:50pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Joshi Tube airs on Saturdays at 4pm EDT / 9pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and is a great way to discover what joshi is all about. People in the chat will be able to answer questions as you ask them, as we do on this thread.
>But if you're ever in the mood to watch joshi outside of Joshi Tube, there is joshi wrestling channel for streaming live events such as TJPW and Stardom - http://taima.tv/r/joshi. Furthermore, there is also a non-joshi women's wrestling channel - http://taima.tv/r/wooomens

There's a variety of women's wrestling available around the world. The West features many, such as the WWE Women’s division, AEW's Women's division, Impact Wrestling’s Knockouts division, ROH’s Women of Honor division, AAA's luchadoras, CMLL's luchadoras, WOW Wrestling, Shimmer Women Athletes, SHINE Wrestling, WSU, WWR, RISE, Sabotage Wrestling, Pro-Wrestling EVE, HUMO, and more!

Eastern Promotions to watch
Tokyo Joshi Pro, Stardom, Gatoh Move, Pro Wrestling Wave, SEAdLINNNG, Marvelous, OZ Academy, Diana, Ice Ribbon, Sendai Girls, Pure-J, Actwres girl'Z, and more! All nonsubscription shows are available at PuroresuDream - https://puroresudream.wordpress.com/ or https://twitter.com/PuroresuDream for the latest joshi shows.

Classic women's wrestling to watch: The Legendary AJW, classic JWP, ARISON, GAEA & FMW's female deathmatch division, and GLOW if you want over the top female characters and promos.

>Useful links:

http://www.diva-dirt.com/ - News, Gossip and rumors from the world of women's wrestling
http://enzuigiripuro.tumblr.com/ - latest results and match cards
https://pastebin.com/nMyby4Hk - Pastebin for all the subtitles and subtitled episodes of Tofu Pro Wrestling
http://joshicity.com/ - Joshi Reviews and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSOvrH-DPO5ROUIiyem8ySA/videos - Youtube channel filled with classic Joshi theme songs
http://falconjoshi.blogspot.com/ - English language Joshi blog
http://www.dailymotion.com/Mosquitopilate1 - Dailymotion channel that uploads Joshi shows and matches by the barrel-full
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/JAHMAL1111/1 - Also uploads Joshi shows and matches
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL53kKJBMWATcFGQFDJeUHiV_hWzHb6TJw - Playlist of ROH-uploaded Women of Honor matches
http://www.dailymotion.com/f100000089423529 - Another channel with loads of western women's matches
http://www.dailymotion.com/therackattackvideos - Channel showing a bunch of WWE/WWF women's segments
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq4o415dCRi5zJFwUTmXJHA - SHITLOADS of joshi matches from far away ago to now
http://pastebin.com/u/NaziClown - Joshi pastebins from thoughout 2015
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Stephanie McMahon-Levesque - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:01:37 EST zNyQb9LL No.6359824 Reply
I see we're hornyposting

NEW wrassling-related-only SOCIAL MEDIA thread; 02/18/2020 Edition; Mark of the Shills

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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:18:00 EST bTaLuBzi No.6359529
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Previous >>6353281 hit the 750 post bump limit.
Same rules as ever; No political derailments No Waifu Warz
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Sting - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:39:14 EST yxZfdC7k No.6359806 Reply

where is the joke this is literally not funny. 2020 "comedy" can suck my dick.
Mark Jindrak - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:51:14 EST zVSMKZyQ No.6359812 Reply
It's very basic sitcom writing. You find this in any sitcom going back decades. Stop being so mad about something so banal and go watch shitty adult swim shows or something

Wednesday Night Wars

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 16:23:50 EST I709qEtd No.6357806
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>AEW: 817,000
>NXT: 757,000
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Rodney Mack - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:52:51 EST 0wjZhjTq No.6359135 Reply
of course it's a stupid meme response but it's not like some weird language that you wouldn't understand unless you were a 4chin regular lol
El MurciŽlago - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 18:09:09 EST oOLczIsv No.6359187 Reply
when you constantly see the same words and phrases they stick out more. yeah, it's perfectly possible to use "seethe" and "cope" in a normal way, but then it's also possible to repeatedly see the words by themselves or emphasized in a certain way and you can put two and two together and guess what the latest meme on 4kanker is. sometimes you just need a little intuition. nb.
Icarus - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:16:24 EST BlrIoG3o No.6359803 Reply
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bumping this and please for the love of god, why not just use this thread tomorrow when the ratings come out?

>Women dominate the top-ranks for NXT by this quarter-hour "over/under expectations" viewership analysis.
>It's remarkable that women dominate the top-ranks for NXT by this analysis. Likewise, the individual male main eventers for NXT are absent from the top end of the list, although Adam Cole's Undisputed Era makes the list.

>AEW is topped by Chris Jericho's Inner Circle stable, followed by MJF and Cody who are involved in a feud.


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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:04:27 EST z+c6DKUE No.6357924
File: 1581649467821.jpg -(29895B / 29.19KB, 400x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 14TH FEBRUARY '20
The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
Dave Meltzer's star ratings will also be posted in this thread should there be any.
Use this thread to post news as it comes through. Do not use the old thread for anything new, please move discussion to here instead.

> WWE officially announced on 2/10 that the 37th WrestleMania will be coming to the new SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, CA, just outside Los Angeles, on March 28, 2021. The date is a week early because April 4, which would usually be the date, is Easter Sunday.

> It had been expected Los Angeles to be the home of the show, and both sides had agreed more than a year back on that aspect. The city wanted it in 2021 as a way of preparing the city and the stadium for a major tourist event before they hosted the 2022 Super Bowl. WWE wanted to follow the Super Bowl, largely to make an attendance announcement that would include noting that they beat the Super Bowl attendance number. They will likely announce a number larger than the Super Bowl would be able to fit, even if it would also likely not be a real number, but they couldn’t claim to have beaten the Super Bowl until after the Super Bowl,

> The company also announced the Hall of Fame, Smackdown, NXT Takeover and Raw will take place at the Staples Center. Given the size of the market, there is a good chance that at least the final three of those events would sell out. In addition, with the number of different venues that have housed independent wrestling, there will likely be one of the highest number of independent shows ever, in particular Lucha Libre style events and possibly a PWG involvement for the first time on that list. SoFi Stadium, which is scheduled to open in July and be the home of both the Los Angeles Rams and Los Angeles Chargers starting with the upcoming football season, is listed with a capacity of 70,240, but it can be expanded for another 30,000 seats and the Super Bowl is legitimately expected to draw 100,000. WWE will also likely announce six figures, likely announcing a larger number than their public company record of 101,763 set for WrestleMania 32 at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX on April 3, 2016.

> The Arlington police department later reported that 80,709 fans was the actual turnstile count for that event. If they expand the stadium, and likely will, this can break what is the legitimate largest crowd in WWE history. “Many people are more excited about us hosting WrestleMania than the Olympics,” said James T. Butts, the mayor of Inglewood, to the Los Angeles Times. “I was surprised at how popular the WWE [is].”

> At the press conference, Stephanie McMahon mentioned she hoped Ronda Rousey, who is from the area, would be on the show, saying it’s not if but when, as far as Rousey returning to WWE at some point. Rousey signed a three-year deal with WWE, promised them a full year leading to WrestleMania, and then was going to take time off to try and start a family. Roman Reigns was also there, and pushed the idea of a match with The Rock, saying this would be the right time and right place for such a match.

> New Japan Pro Wrestling made two major announcements and a few minor ones on 2/9 at the New Beginning in Osaka show. The big one is that New Japan World Pro Wrestling will return to prime time in April, with a weekly show at 8 p.m. on Friday nights on BS Asahi, the satellite channel of TV-Asahi. The announcement was made calling back to the glory days of television in the 70s and 80s with Antonio Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, Abdullah the Butcher, Hulk Hogan, Stan Hansen, Andre the Giant, Tiger Mask and Dynamite Kid as some of the leading stars.

> From its inception in 1972, until 1987, 8 p.m. on Friday night was the traditional New Japan television time slot. When ratings declined in 1987, it was moved first to Tuesday, and then to Monday, also at 8 p.m. In 1988, it was moved to Saturday afternoon at 4 p.m. and then after that, as has been the case for the last 30 plus years, the show has aired post-midnight, first a 60 minute show, and then cut to 30 minutes, around 2:30 a.m. early Sunday morning. Even with the bad time slot, New Japan did tremendous business in the 90s, before declining badly from 2000 to 2010, and then slowly climbing back to strong levels starting around 2011 with stro…
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Big Boss Man - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:10:46 EST XjzLSbOC No.6359800 Reply
Daves boomer goons are working overtime
DJ Hyde - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:11:26 EST jkHcIii8 No.6359801 Reply
>Woookies dont realize that an entire board exists where 4chin pol spammers show up yelling fucked up shit on the regular. These filters are for them. Not you.

Which board? I don't bother with any other ones here on 420 since /sa/ was taken away

Wrestling What-Ifs

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- Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:14:28 EST hoyr1fa5 No.6359166
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Every time I think about Jeff Hardy's run in 2009 I get a little sad. When he left WWE he was leaving right at the start of what appeared to be his breakout push. He was in good shape, had just won his 3rd world title in a year, was rivaling Cena in merch sales, was over as hell, and was coming off of a series of great feuds with Edge and Punk. He was on fire but then he quit, got fat, did a lot of drugs, and never really seemed to recover. Dude went from clawing his way to the top in 2009 to having to be shoot pinned in 2011 because he showed up in no shape to wrestle and I always wondered what would've happened if he stayed the course and stayed clean. He could've easily maintained his spot as #2 babyface and probably would've kept winning titles. Maybe he would've gotten a Wrestlemania feud with Taker, a program with Brock, a high profile match with Cena, an eventual heel turn against Punk? Idk, that would've been cool. I feel like there's a LOT of money that was left on the table with Jeff.

What are some things that could've been different if he stayed? What are some other big what ifs?
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Luther Reigns - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:29:43 EST ecsUccaA No.6359775 Reply
2009 Jeff reached the point all wrestlers dream of!
Main events, World titles, over af in all demos,
had just become a made man!
and walked away from it.

If he stayed (and stayed clean) people would talk about Jeff totally differently today.
Could have been a popular, main event, world title-picture top guy for a decade.
Kenny Omega - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:43:54 EST bTaLuBzi No.6359780 Reply
he still gets referenced in good light in plenty of mainstream rap music.

HipHop will immortalize Hardy if wrestling wont.
Jigsaw - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:43:04 EST zkNCUJnz No.6359793 Reply
>what are some other big what ifs?
There's a billion scenarios stemming from WWE's agressive buyout of indie/foreign talent. What if Io and Kairi stayed? What if Nakamura and Styles stayed? KENTA, Hero and Castagnoli, Kushida? What if Steen and Generico got full-time ROH contracts? If Sara Del Rey was teaching girls at Shimmer in Illinois instead of at NXT? etc etc etc. Honestly have a hard time believing any of these wouldn't be better than what we have today.

For puro the biggest one I think is, what if Misawa's fatal injury didn't happen? NOAH's front office nosedive wouldn't have happened either, he would have used his remaining years to set up Supernova Katsuhiko as initially planned before retiring, and who knows whether this would prevent DG surge in popularity during the late aughts. If it did, then NJPW wouldn't be as big today -- a lot of people attribute the success of New Japan to foreigners and foreigners only but arguably a bigger deal is how it deviated from the... Takayama school of puro for something more influenced by Toryumon/Lucharesu and workrate stuff, and none of that is relevant today without the Nick Gageh of CIMA-era DG. I guess just as big of a what if would be the AJPW/NOAH split as >>6359333 mentioned but I don't know enough about the company politics of that time tbh.

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