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AJPW SUMMER ACTION SERIES 2020: DAY 1

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!lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 23:19:09 EST MqPOCghi No.6418759
File: 1594610349304.jpg -(519854B / 507.67KB, 1200x675) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. AJPW SUMMER ACTION SERIES 2020: DAY 1
>Watch AJPW Summer Action Series 2020: Day 1 at 6am EDT / 11am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo

AJPW returns to Shinkiba 1st Ring for its first show in front of a live crowd exclusive to its AJPW Fan Club members. Here's the lineup for the show:

>Rising HAYATO [0] vs. Atsuki Aoyagi [0] - Asunaro Cup Match

>Evolution (Suwama, Shuji Ishikawa, Hikaru Sato, & Yusuke Okada) vs. JIN (Jake Lee, Koji Iwamoto, Ayato Yoshida, & Fuminori Abe) - Eight Man Tag Team Match

>Enfantes Terribles (Shotaro Ashino, Kuma Arashi, & Yusuke Kodama) vs. KAI, TAJIRI, & Yuma Aoyagi - Six Man Tag Team Match

>Yoshitatsu & Seigo Tachibana vs. Wild Menso (Takao Omori & Black Menso~re) - Tag Team Match

>Kento Miyahara, Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio, & Francisco Akira vs. Purple Haze (Zeus, UTAMARO, & "X") - Six Man Tag Team Match

>Hokuto Omori [4] vs. Dan Tamura [4] - Asunaro Cup Final
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Ivan Putski - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:34:21 EST uvcoq2NK No.6418789 Reply
>>6418761
Yoshitatsu from 2004-2006 had good matches with Danielson, Goto, Nakamura, Tana, Nagata and Ishii.


Where Did Promos Go?

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- Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:37:47 EST x8ohQNwM No.6418537
File: 1594564667870.jpg -(343379B / 335.33KB, 1600x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Where Did Promos Go?
NXT used to have some pretty solid mic guys. Owens. Joe. Even Roode to an extent. Now nobody on the entire brand is very good. Is the de-emphasis on promos and character work the reason why USA NXT feels so stale? Pic related
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Go Shiozaki - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:40:17 EST HWMtn/Lo No.6418803 Reply
>>6418801
Yeah pretty much. It's a modern day ECW in a way. I guess Moose is RVD.
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Alundra Blayze - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:47:30 EST 6dHk1vf7 No.6418805 Reply
>>6418803
Its funny how bad TNA wanted to be ECW back in the day, now they just fell into it
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Gunner - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:49:05 EST UMacSvZd No.6418806 Reply
>>6418805
Tna wanted to be everything and ended up being nothing. Impact has a muh more clear vision for sure.

Women's Wrestling Thread: In Memoriam

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- Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:48:07 EST LUMg+nxK No.6415831
File: 1593704887212.png -(680713B / 664.76KB, 960x601) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Women's Wrestling Thread: In Memoriam
May she find peace in the great ring in the sky.

>Joshi Tube airs on Saturdays at 4pm EDT / 9pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and is a great way to discover what joshi is all about. People in the chat will be able to answer questions as you ask them, as we do on this thread.
>But if you're ever in the mood to watch joshi outside of Joshi Tube, there is joshi wrestling channel for streaming live events such as TJPW and Stardom - http://taima.tv/r/joshi. Furthermore, there is also a non-joshi women's wrestling channel - http://taima.tv/r/wooomens

There's a variety of women's wrestling available around the world. The West features many, such as the WWE Women’s division, AEW's Women's division, Impact Wrestling’s Knockouts division, ROH’s Women of Honor division, AAA's luchadoras, CMLL's luchadoras, WOW Wrestling, Shimmer Women Athletes, SHINE Wrestling, WSU, WWR, RISE, Sabotage Wrestling, Pro-Wrestling EVE, HUMO, and more!

Eastern Promotions to watch
Tokyo Joshi Pro, Stardom, Gatoh Move, Pro Wrestling Wave, SEAdLINNNG, Marvelous, OZ Academy, Diana, Ice Ribbon, Sendai Girls, Pure-J, Actwres girl'Z, and more! All nonsubscription shows are available at PuroresuDream - https://puroresudream.wordpress.com/ or https://twitter.com/PuroresuDream for the latest joshi shows.

Classic women's wrestling to watch: The Legendary AJW, classic JWP, ARISON, GAEA & FMW's female deathmatch division, and GLOW if you want over the top female characters and promos.

>Useful links:

http://www.diva-dirt.com/ - News, Gossip and rumors from the world of women's wrestling
http://enzuigiripuro.tumblr.com/ - latest results and match cards
https://pastebin.com/nMyby4Hk - Pastebin for all the subtitles and subtitled episodes of Tofu Pro Wrestling
http://joshicity.com/ - Joshi Reviews and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSOvrH-DPO5ROUIiyem8ySA/videos - Youtube channel filled with classic Joshi theme songs
http://falconjoshi.blogspot.com/ - English language Joshi blog
http://www.dailymotion.com/Mosquitopilate1 - Dailymotion channel that uploads Joshi shows and matches by the barrel-full
https://representingpuroresu.wordpress.com/joshi-puroresu/
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/JAHMAL1111/1 - Also uploads Joshi shows and matches
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL53kKJBMWATcFGQFDJeUHiV_hWzHb6TJw - Playlist of ROH-uploaded Women of Honor matches
http://www.dailymotion.com/f100000089423529 - Another channel with loads of western women's matches
http://www.dailymotion.com/therackattackvideos - Channel showing a bunch of WWE/WWF women's segments
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq4o415dCRi5zJFwUTmXJHA - SHITLOADS of joshi matches from far away ago to now
http://pastebin.com/u/NaziClown - Joshi pastebins from thoughout 2015
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Jimmy Olson - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:28:52 EST vLPxHcBs No.6418731 Reply
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>>6418568
Nodoka lookin goodt in the sunshine so fuckin shine the spotlight on her koda you fuckin bitch that means the belt you stupid fuck koda it's time for a fuckin extra powerful beer fueled namasensei webm koda you fuckin bitch drink beer

BITCHposting aside, I hope Nodoka is recovering well
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Hana's old kimono now belongs to ASUKA
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Jimmy Olson - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:42:16 EST vLPxHcBs No.6418804 Reply
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there's a lack of haruna neko so here's an amv

Do you think he sad...

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- Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:25:57 EST FcySc4ny No.6418169
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That he will never be a heavyweight no matter how jacked he gets?
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Ratings War General #2: Triple Threat

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- Sat, 13 Jun 2020 17:32:47 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6405710
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Demos! Total viewers! DVR numbers! Nielsen boxes! Playstation Vue numbers! RECORD. LOW. RATINGS. Showbuzz Daily! Love & Hip Hop!

This is the (continuing) all-purpose discussion thread for the 24/7 newscycle about Nielsen ratings for pro wrestling shows on tv: Raw, Smackdown, Backstage and the Wednesday Night Nuclear Arms Race between NXT and the upstart wrestling league AEW.
Previous thread here: >>6383235

Discussion of ratings for other wrestling shows (Dark side of the Ring, IMPACT, ROH, MLW, and WOW: Women of Wrestling) is allowed too if they chart.

link for stuff to follow
>http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/
>https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez
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James Storm - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:20:07 EST TLDOIDYH No.6418796 Reply
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>>6418745
god forbid someone doesn't get a fucking joke, dude.

boohoo poor you without a sense of humor all worked up by jokes

is that how you want us to feel towards whatever retards you're imagining and claiming are totally not you, projecting?
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James Storm - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:25:11 EST TLDOIDYH No.6418798 Reply
>>6418671
check out our /MTV/ board if you actually want insight on how TV viewers think.

Ratings determine whether a show is failed or not, so yeah, people do, actually give a fuck as to whether or not whatever they enjoyed is actually good or not, and people keep up with shows they're invested in for the sake of not wasting their interest in it.

I mean, it's clear you're determined to be stupid right now but are you even aware how pointless your tirade over this all really is?

> RATINGZZ DONTTS MATTERRR!!! DO THEY????
The absolute state of £-dr0nez defense force... enjoy these little molehill victories while you got em, champ. 31-8. Not gonna last forever.

THE NEW social media thread for wrestling IS HERE(we back online edition)

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- Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:53:28 EST TLDOIDYH No.6418070
File: 1594446808614.jpg -(1483304B / 1.41MB, 1242x2157) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE NEW social media thread for wrestling IS HERE(we back online edition)
WWE has covid-19. Impact is now a developmental brand & hiring the entire planet. UK Wrestling is cancelled. AEW Dynamite is now rebranded as a new PPV theme every week. WWE is boomer central in the ratings department.


> No politics, per usual keep it kayfabe

lets get BACK ON THE RHODES.
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James Storm - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:15:42 EST TLDOIDYH No.6418795 Reply
>>6418787
> Actually failing to realize how many women in WWE had to implants in this New gen
> Not seeing the reality that WWE only pushes their women based on patriarchal male standards of sexualized women
lol whatever you say champ. They may not force their talent but they all but obligate them to do so if they expect any sort of push. Becky luckily broke out beyond that but she was getting dressed in lace stockings and more sexual attires before that happened, too.
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Sonny Onoo - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:21:38 EST npmoWSca No.6418797 Reply
>>6418787
Imagine thinking that a company that employs Terry Taylor, Michael Hayes and John Lauriniatis wouldn't force women to get cosmetic surgery in exchange for pushes

Will Extreme Rules be the jump the shark moment for cinematic wrestling?

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- Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:28:37 EST NnKx8iFo No.6418753
File: 1594607317655.jpg -(55165B / 53.87KB, 600x375) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Will Extreme Rules be the jump the shark moment for cinematic wrestling?
I feel like Extreme Rules is gonna jump the shark big time on the whole cinematic wrestling thing. WWE has this tendency where if somethings successful they just keep doing it until its ran into a ground constantly trying to repeat that success. The cinematic matches at Mania were pretty good and everyone was talking about the boneyard match and I feel the ones after Mania just haven't even lived up to that one in fact they've been massive downfalls in quality. Money in the Bank was just silly and lazy and the NXT Takeover one wasn't good. I feel Extreme Rules is just gonna be the one that sends it over the edge into shittiness.
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CaliJester - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:29:12 EST oXN+71XU No.6418786 Reply
>>6418758
>>6418783
You mean Street Profits, right?

Honestly, I felt WWE was going to run these Cinematic matches into the ground the moment Boneyard and Wyatt/Cena turned out good. WWE has lost it's ability to let gimmick matches breath. Remember when Ladder matches happened maybe once a year? Or TLC matches were rare? WWE thinks that running a match that everyone likes every month will draw viewers but all it does is over saturate it.
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Tony Chimel - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:31:57 EST NnKx8iFo No.6418788 Reply
>>6418786
WWE pops a boner the second they do something thats well received. Remember when Rey and Andrade had a throw away match and it was well received so they had them fight almost every Smackdown for months straight?
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CaliJester - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:12:24 EST oXN+71XU No.6418794 Reply
>>6418788
And they were all great matches too. They did that with Sheamus and Cesaro too and even made it a storyline.

Indie Wrestling General Threadhausen #22

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:17:01 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6349567
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Continuing from last thread >>6283406

>Indie Tube airs on Thursdays at 4pm EST / 9pm GMT in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo showcasing matches and shows from the indie wrestling scene in the US, Canada, UK, Ireland, Germany, and more!

>Championship Wrestling From Hollywood airs weekly on Thursdays at 9pm EDT / 2am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 2pm EDT / 7pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>OVW TV also airs weekly on Thursdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 1pm EDT / 6pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>VOD and live events are shown in the tubes as well so keep an eye on /wooo/ for information on those as they're scheduled and updated in the "Upcoming Events" section on /wooo/tube and #woootubeschedule on Discord.

Here is an assortment of notable indie wrestling websites and streaming services:

>http://www.pwponderings.com/
>https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/
>http://socaluncensored.com/
>https://independentwrestling.tv/
>https://www.highspotswrestlingnetwork.com/
>https://www.fite.tv/
>http://smartmarkvideo.com/

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Kurt Angle - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:40:18 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6418509 Reply
>>6418432
Dickinson wanting to show loyalty to GCW by making sure he made Backyard Wrestling and not being willing to commit to the July 4th show just because he's booked on the previous show makes perfect sense.

>>6418447

Sanchez is the hero we deserve.
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Tugboat - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:35:37 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6418735 Reply
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Beyond is back baybee.

Weird that their return is in New Jersey, but it seems to be pretty lawless down there right now in regards to wrestling so why not?
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Luke Gallows - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:43:44 EST QSYhnRQX No.6418775 Reply
>>6418735
I'm excited they're back but sad they're not in New England. If it goes well maybe they'll do another outdoor show up here or something. The stuff they were doing at Feast could work with spaced out chairs and such. Fingers crossed!

EVERY BELT IS EVIL

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- Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:25:14 EST OFCXNEwg No.6418466
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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At the /wooo/vies: A Fistful of Dollars

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- Sun, 12 Jul 2020 11:14:13 EST VfUs3h25 No.6418551
File: 1594566853606.jpg -(62611B / 61.14KB, 550x415) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. At the /wooo/vies: A Fistful of Dollars
>Watch /wooo/nami: Kinnikuman and Hulk Hogan’s Rock n’ Wrestling at 7pm EDT / 12am BST
>Watch WWE Chronicle: Jeff Hardy at 8pm EDT / 1am BST
>Watch /wooo/vies at 9pm EDT / 2am BST

>All of the above in /wooo/tube http://taima.tv/r/wooo

Doing A tribute to Ennio Morricone by showing A Fistful of Dollars tonight. I do plan to show the other when it works out to do so. Same with a Carl Reiner Tribute.

The Man With No Name (Clint Eastwood) enters the Mexican village of San Miguel in the midst of a power struggle among the three Rojo brothers (Antonio Prieto, Benny Reeves, Sieghardt Rupp) and sheriff John Baxter (Wolfgang Lukschy). When a regiment of Mexican soldiers bearing gold intended to pay for new weapons is waylaid by the Rojo brothers, the stranger inserts himself into the middle of the long-simmering battle, selling false information to both sides for his own benefit.
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/joshi/tube

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- Sat, 27 Jun 2020 15:27:45 EST CMrRUira No.6414298
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>Watch Joshi Tube @ 4pm EDT / 9pm BST http://taima.tv/r/wooo

>Ice Ribbon New Ice Ribbon #1046 ~ Yokohama Ribbon 2020 (06/13/2020)
>https://sp.ch.nicovideo.jp/iceribbon
*Akane Fujita & Hiragi Kurumi vs. Maika Ozaki & Yappy
*Matsuya Uno & Tae Honma vs. Ram Kaicho & Satsuki Totoro
*Chon Shiryu vs. Mochi Miyagi
*Tsukasa Fujimoto vs. Nao Ishikawa
*Ibuki Hoshi, Risa Sera & Tsukushi vs. Banny Oikawa, Hamuko Hoshi & Thekla
*ICExInfinity Title Match: Maya Yukihi (c) vs. Suzu Suzuki

>AJW Classics #162: Odaiba W Explosion Day 1 & 2 (7/10~7/11/1999)
>https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XnZ524fBzCLoM6QOO9kXJ5G7Vtm6ezEk
*WWWA Tag Team Title Best Two Out Of Three Falls Match: ZAP I & ZAP T (c) vs. Las Cachorras Orientales (Etsuko Mita & Mima Shimoda)
*Japanese Tag Team Title Match: Kayo Noumi & Miho Wakizawa (c) vs. Kana Mizaki & Tsubasa Kuragaki
*All Pacific Title Match: Kumiko Maekawa (c) vs. Misae Genki
*WWWA Super Lightweight Title Match: Chaparita ASARI (c) vs. Momoe Nakanishi
*Kaoru Ito, Manami Toyota & Momoe Nakanishi vs. Las Cachorras Orientales (Etsuko Mita & Mima Shimoda) & Lioness Asuka
*WWWA World Title Match: Yumiko Hotta (c) vs. Kyoko Inoue

>Gatoh Move: Choco Pro-wrestling

lineup subject to change
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Ranjin Singh - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 18:29:10 EST 72OTwNkp No.6414353 Reply
>>6414332

Look up the "B Bomb" photo book she did... some more than risque stuff in it!

Celebrities in wrestling

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- Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:57:53 EST vCkiVt97 No.6418700
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Who's the best and why is it Andy Kaufman?
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Sonny Onoo - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:53:58 EST npmoWSca No.6418741 Reply
thought this was gonna be a thread about isickler ngl
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Jimmy Olson - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:56:49 EST vLPxHcBs No.6418742 Reply
>>6418737
His promos about people from Tennessee were fuckin gold and got massive heat too
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Jado - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:00:51 EST 6u2ViYpT No.6418743 Reply
>>6418741
>ilsickler
now there's a name I havent' heard in a very long time
I wonder what ever happened to him

THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 11TH JULY '20

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- Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:38:37 EST bTZFvTbr No.6418116
File: 1594474717176.png -(34613B / 33.80KB, 200x159) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 11TH JULY '20
The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
Dave Meltzer's star ratings will also be posted in this thread should there be any.
Use this thread to post news as it comes through. Do not use the old thread for anything new, please move discussion to here instead.

> COVID-19 and its effect on UFC and pro wrestling continued to dominate the news this past week. WWE is recovering from an outbreak that caused changes to the taping schedule, a number of rewrites to television and numerous big names taken off this past two weeks of television. For WWE, skeleton crews led to the lowest rated Smackdown of the FOX era and by far the lowest in 18-49 when it comes to overall realistic rating the show has ever done. Raw over the past two weeks has done two of its four lowest marks overall and in 18-49 in history.

> AEW, set a record low, but bounced back due to the heavily hyped Fyter Fest series of shows. Somehow, AEW has avoided, at least based on what has come out, any positive tests but did have a heavily hyped Jon Moxley vs. Brian Cage match moved back due to Moxley’s wife, Renee Young, being part of the WWE outbreak. But even with both companies presenting special shows, each declined in viewers and 18-49 this week when NXT in particular with the Keith Lee vs. Adam Cole double title match, should have hit a high point, and AEW with a loaded show, and a Chris Jericho vs. Orange Cassidy match built for weeks, should have been up as well.

> WWE has not said anything, either in memos to talent, or the media, about its outbreak. Based on different reports, anywhere from 30 or more individuals with the company have tested positive, although the only names released officially are Young, who did so on her own, Kayla Braxton, and producers James Gibson (Jamie Noble) and Adam Pearce. The list of talent that hasn’t been at the Performance Center since the outbreak includes Dana Brooke, Carmella, Naomi, The Street Profits, Velveteen Dream, Austin Theory, Daniel Bryan, Finn Balor, Liv Morgan, Mandy Rose, Natalya, Nia Jax, Otis, Tucker, Mojo Rawley, Shorty G, Raquel Gonzalez, Sheamus and Sonya Deville. Of those, Bryan and Sheamus both appeared on Zoom on Smackdown from home so it was clear they were scripted originally for the show and didn’t come. That could be by choice, given Bryan’s wife is pregnant and he’s had issues with his immune system, or other reasons. Dream and Theory were both named in recent allegations.

> WWE officially has said there is no change in Dream’s status, and he was in an auto accident but had been not been on the show while he was in the middle of a program with the Undisputed Era, and his name was never mentioned in commentary during a Dexter Lumis match where he was part of the storyline. WWE hasn’t responded to any questions on Theory, whose name has also not been mentioned on commentary or his absence when Seth Rollins and Murphy been on TV been acknowledged.

> Natalya is known to have not tested positive but was pulled for precautionary reasons. Brooke, Carmella and Naomi hadn’t been booked on television prior, so they all just simply may not have been used. Jax also doesn’t appear to have a program going right now, although was the one to “injure” Charlotte Flair so disappearing from television right after wouldn’t seem to make sense either.

> Ric Flair spoke to Wrestlinginc.com and explained his decision to continue working the tapings after the outbreak. “The WWE is doing everything and following every guideline possible,” Flair said. “The testing and all that was conducted as professionally as it could possibly be. Three doctors. Organized. Yes, people had to stand in line, but that was because of so many people being tested. But nobody was together. Everybody had a mask on. “I would scrutinize anybody that said otherwise at the highest level. I was tired of hearing the bullshit. (Mark) Carrano, Ace (John Laurinaitis), Vince himself, I could go down the list of people that are making sure that everybody’s life is at the best possible place while they’re there for the event.”

> Regarding the outbreak itself, noting he worked shows that several others backed off from working who were decades younger than him, and without his health history which includes blood clots in his legs and well as heart issues …
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Gunner - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:01:30 EST nzfxLdFC No.6418701 Reply
>>6418623
This is hilarious for two reasons. Vince being a mad cunt and the fact WWE fans were saying Gronk was going to be a massive star.
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Colonel Ninotchka - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:14:21 EST eqffKnTP No.6418724 Reply
>>6418701
I'm almost positive Gronk will still come back, he'll play maybe 3/4 of this season before he gets concussed and re-retires. Then comes back when he feels like it, still might be successful, he's young and is a pre-made name.

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