Post em up

keep it civil and related to pro wrestling.

prior >>6145945 hit its bump limit
https://twitter.com/projectciampa/status/1052267274277724160?s=21
looks like everyone’s doing shoot angles now? bullet club heading to wwe confirmed

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Perhaps we were wrong about the big dog.
It's been some 5 years since his push started, and he's had classic matches with the likes of AJ Styles, Bryan Danielson and Tyler Black. On top of that, he sells a lot of merch and is very popular amongst the women and the young kids. When he goes out there, the attention is 100% on him.
Were we wrong, /wooo/?

Is it just me or is New Japan's roster really small? It always seems like it's the same seven or eight guys on every show just being put in new combinations. Where the fuck is the midcard?

This is your finalized card for Evolution /wooo/

Tomorrow Night's Raw is the Go Home for this show and since literally no one on /wooo/ really showed up for the Australian PPV which had the same amount of replies your typical Raw/Smackdown show normally gets this show is gonna probably have even less attendance or interest

Serious how do you make a 4 hr show with a card like this this PPV is gonna burn away so much money and kill women's wrestling forever

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The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
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> With the apparent link to the death of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey while at the Saudi Arabian consulate, the WWE has become under fire for doing the 11/2 Crown Jewel show in Riyadh. While there was talk about backup plans and monitoring the situation, at press time the show is a go, and tickets were to be put on sale on 10/19 for the show at King Saud University Stadium. The move from King Fahd International Stadium to the smaller King Saud University Stadium in Riyadh for the Crown Jewel show had nothing to do with popularity or ticket sales (which hadn’t even started) but because the larger stadium was up for renovation.

> It appears that WWE is taking the approach that they have a deal worth $450 million or so, over ten years, that they would breach by not doing the show, and that, as is almost always the case with Vince McMahon, what is going on in the real world doesn’t matter since McMahon only knows one world, which is the one he usually almost fully controls. Those in the company said that the show will happen as planned unless either President Donald or the state department orders them to do it, and that is not going to happen. Donald's behavior here has been incredibly transparent, as, similar to McMahon, he grew up as a ruthless business leader and that’s the only value structure he knows. Business leaders work with people who benefit their business, and who those people they have to work with is irrelevant if it’s for the good of business.

> Within WWE, the reaction has been notable in a few ways. In Philadelphia from Raw, it was a normal crowd and a normal show. It was notable that the fans clearly didn’t care that much about news in the real world and just wanted their entertainment. WWE during the broadcast, mentioned Crown Jewel, but during the three hour show, Saudi Arabia and Riyadh, and the stadium were never mentioned. On the web site, mentions of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia as the site for the show weren’t there either, although that has since changed at press time as they are promoting the 10/19 on-sale date locally for the show. On the Smackdown 1,000th episode, held in Washington, DC, Vince McMahon was cheered like crazy when ha appeared. All mentions of Crown Jewel live in the building were booed, although that wasn’t apparent on television except during Undertaker’s interview at the end, and the booing was noticeable, but not that bad.

> We were told by people in the company that almost all the production people and most of the talent think doing the show at this time is a bad idea. Many weren’t happy about the first show and what it turned into, but only one person, Corey Graves, even hinted that in public. Management, on the other hand, was strongly in support of doing the show.

> The original emotional reaction that they are going to do a big show without women wrestlers, which was the least important part of the story, was the one they thought they had handled by doing the WWE’s first all-women’s PPV four five days earlier. There was the issue of being paid millions not to just come in and do a show, but for clear propaganda purposes and being able to slide under the radar doing it where the NFL, NBA or any other major league entertainment would be excoriated for doing so. The treatment of women within that culture making the company’s own women’s empowerment promotion being made into a farce was also somewhat explained by the idea that things were changing and they’d be part of the change. There is some change, but it’s slow, but the idea that WWE coming or not coming has even the slightest part in that is comedic at best and pathetic at worst. But it changed to a point nobody can address, which is the dismemberment of someone whose main crime was being critical of the prince, the very person who earmarked the money to WWE, and more so , there is mounting evidence from U.S. intelligence officials who believe that same prince who struck the deal with WWE is culpable in the murder.

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And retire as champion?

Post em'. Especially COCK JOKES.

>>	Consequences Creed - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:15:42 EST ID:hUI88j7i No.6159418 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540199742360.jpg -(230083B / 224.69KB, 642x1805) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. ARMBARS EVERYWHERE

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>Watch DDT Ryogoku Peter Pan 2018 ~Fall Pro-Wrestling Festival~ in Ryogoku Kokugikan @ 2am EDT / 7am BST here on /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo as well as FOR FREE on DDTUniverse - https://www.ddtpro.com/universe | Watch the Under Matches for Peter Pan @ 1am EDT / 6am BST on /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2
>>Get the Gold or Platinum Memberships and make your voice heard in the ongoing Dramatic General Election. Only 7 days left to vote! - https://www.ddtpro.com/elections/general
>>>Make sure to always have a tab open for DDT's English translation Twitter page for information and translations of any promos that happen on the show - https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng along with the Twitter hashtag #RPP2018DDT

Danshoku Dieno served as Producer of DDT for most of 2018. When it came to the KO-D Openweight Title, he publicly showed no desire for it and was the neutral party when deciding challengers and title defenses and ducked every chance to be in the running for the title. This changed somewhere in the summer when he began butting heads with disgruntled champion Shigehiro Irie. After lengthy verbal scraps with each other, Dieno took advantage of the time frame during the 32-man KING OF DDT Tournament to use a gifted ItsuDoko bracer and take the Openweight Title from Irie. He revealed afterwards that it was all a plan to reach his dream was to main event Peter Pan as the champion. And after quitting as Producer and a month of dealing with pissed off Irie and a determined Meiko Satomura, Dieno will realize his dream tonight. But the man he will stand across the ring from just happens to be the man who won that 32-man Tournament. The CHARISMA and King of Losers, Daisuke Sasaki. Sasaki has been through many things this year, from teaming with the Great Muta to his short lived relationship with Asuka(not that one) to recruiting 2 new members to his DAMNATION unit. But the big one came in late August when he won the KING of DDT, making it the 4th straight major tournament win for his stable in DDT. The talk about dreams angers Sasaki, who says Dieno is a relic of the past and take his place as the symbol of DDT, while Dieno promises to go above and beyond Sasaki's and everybody else's expectations as he looks to walk out of his first Peter Pan main event holding the title up high.

But what would a DDT supershow be without Konosuke Takeshita? The longest reigning & youngest Openweight Champion of all time has been a centerpoint of every big DDT show since Peter Pan all the way back in 2016. In between that time he also defended the Openweight title more times than anybody in history and formed a growing stable in ALLOUT. Aside from a shoulder injury which took him out of the KING of DDT Tournament, Takeshita is the best he's ever been. But because of that injury he was but a month away from Peter Pan with no match set for him. In comes the arrival of OWE's #STRONGHEARTS led by the world famous CIMA. CIMA explained they had an open schedule for 10/21 and took a midnight flight from Shangai to make some noise within DDT. First looking to be 4-on-4, Takeshita went a different route and requested a 1-on-1 singles match with CIMA. The 21-year veteran couldn't believe the nerve this kid had as he gladly accepted the challenge. So as Akito, Shunma Katsumata & Yuki Iino take on T-Hawk, El Lindaman & Duan Yingnan in the undercard, we will see their leaders do battle as the 23-year old prodigy faces the 21-year veteran and longest reigning Open The Dream Gate Champion in history in a huge Dramatic Dream Match!

• Main Event - KO-D Openweight Championship: Danshoku Dieno (c) Vs Daisuke Sasaki
  
• Semi Final - Dramatic Dream Match: Konosuke Takeshita Vs CIMA
  
• Shigehiro Irie Send-Off Match: HARASHIMA & Yukio Sakaguchi Vs Shigehiro Irie & Keisuke Ishii
  
• 27-Year Age Difference! Bloodbath Between President(48) and Roster Member(21) - Final and Conclusive Weapon Rumble!: Sanshiro Takagi Vs MAO
  
• SOUKEN HOLDINGS Present: Eat Or Be Eaten!? - Giant Special Single Match: Super Sasadango Machine Vs Andreza Giant Panda
  
• The World’s Crazy Couple Decision Match: Makoto Oishi & Misaki Ohata Vs Joey Ryan & Laura James
  
• Special 6-Man Tag Match: ALLOUT(Akito, Shunma Katsumata & Yuki Iino) Vs #STRONGHEARTS(T-Hawk, El Lindaman & Duan Yingnan)

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Continuing from last thread >>6080405. General discussion for Impact, ROH, and MLW since they're bigger than indie promotions owned by media companies that have national weekly television shows.

>Impact! airs on Thursdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt. Replays air on Fridays at 2:30pm EDT / 7:30pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>ROH Wrestling also airs on Thursdays at 9pm EDT / 2am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 1:40pm EDT / 6:40pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Impact One Night Only & Twitch events as well as ROH On Tour events will be shown when scheduled in /wooo/tube. Impact and ROH PPVs will be shown in /wooo/tube as well as in /wooo/alt when scheduled.
>MLW Fusion airs on Mondays at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Tuesdays at 11am EDT / 4am BST in /wooo/tube.

>Impact Wrestling:

http://impactwrestling.com/
https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING
https://www.instagram.com/impactwrestling/
https://www.facebook.com/ImpactWrestling/
https://www.youtube.com/user/TNAwrestling
https://www.twitch.tv/impactwrestling
http://globalwrestlingnetwork.com/

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Haven’t played a wrestling game since smack down vs raw 2010, are the newer games any good? Is there a booking simulator similar to EWR where you can sign or fire wrestlers for certain amounts of money and run your own promotion in the game?

>T-Hawk fucked off to China. RIP

THE STUFF IN THE TUBES:

>Puro Tube is on Tuesdays at 3pm EST / 8pm GMT in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and shows promotions outside of Dragon Gate, NOAH and current NJPW. Join in as everyone argues why their favorite fed is superior and Yanopost, Anopost, CIMApost and dance like Keita until your tummy is full from all that snackpine.
>DG Tube is on Thursdays at 8pm EST / 1am GMT in Mondai Night Ryu - http://taima.tv/r/mondainightryu and features the latest and classic Dragon Gate shows. Other stuff is featured here from time to time as well. (like cheesy 80s films or the mega marathon before Kobe World and recently OWE)
>NJPW on AXS TV is also on Thursdays at 10:50pm EST / 3:50am GMT (10:20pm EST / 2:30am GMT if Impact! is uploaded) in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt showing recent matches on tape delay with English commentary by Jim Ross and Josh Barnett. Replays air on Fridays at 11:45am EST / 4:45pm GMT in /wooo/tube.

Outside of Puro Tube, there's usually a few puro marks in the chat that can help fill you in on storylines and find you matches. Just show up outside of big shows like Raw, and you'll find someone in there to help you out. Puro matches also show up in the playlist, so scroll around to find them. NJPW, DG, and DDT live events are regularly streamed in the tubes, check the schedule for details.

>THE MAJOR FEDS:

NJPW: Oldest and largest promotion in Japan. Owned by Bushiroad and is booked by Gedo. His booking gets the tubes riled up sometimes (all the time), but the match quality generally makes up for it. In the midst of something of a revival, and although you may argue that it is already drawing to a close, they are still doing good business at the moment. They run one of the largest shows in wrestling, called Wrestle Kingdom, every year on January 4th at the fabled Tokyo Dome. Most every show they run, large and small, air in the tubes. They have a slew of foreign wrestlers on their roster right now. They also have a wonderful streaming website over at http://njpwworld.com/

Dragon Gate: Almost certainly the second largest promotion in Japan. Born out of the Toryumon promotion, which was the brainchild of Ultimo Dragon, their style is a mixture of classic puro, cruiserweight/junior heavyweight sprints, and lucha libre. Stable warfare is a huge part of the promotion, with most every wrestler in the company being aligned with a unit in some way. Though it is a big promotion, they retain a grassroots feel, with wrestlers selling merch before and after shows, and running many shows out of community centers and gyms. Most of their large shows air in the tubes, and footage is also posted here. They also have a show that is filmed monthly in their little studio in Kobe called Prime Zone which is wacky, fun, and full of Mondai Ryu schemes. They recently joined the streaming bandwagon over at https://dragongate.live

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Mr. Anderson - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:33:32 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6159380 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540186412259.jpg -(95423B / 93.19KB, 1000x380) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. With Daga officially being announced as the newest member of R.E.D. the final cards for Gate of Destiny & the next Korakuen Hall has been announced: >November 4, 2018: Osaka, Edion Arena Osaka: The Gate of Destiny 2018 >0. K-ness. & Mondai Ryu vs. "Hollywood" Stalker Ichikawa & Shachihoko BOY >1. Ryo Saito, Don Fujii & Gamma vs. Natural Vibes (Punch Tominaga, "brother" YASSHI) & Hyo Watanabe >2. R.E.D. (Eita, Yasushi Kanda, KAZMA SAKAMOTO & Daga) vs. Tribe Vanguard (Kagetora, Yosuke♡Santa Maria, U-T) & Kota Minoura >3. Open the Triangle Gate 3 Way Championship Match: Natural Vibes (Kzy, Susumu Yokosuka & Genki Horiguchi) (c) vs. MaxiMuM (Naruki Doi, Jason Lee & Kaito Ishida) vs. Mochizuki Dojo (Masaaki Mochizuki, Shun Skywalker & Yuki Yoshioka) >4. International Special Singles Match: PAC vs. Flamita >5. Open the Brave Gate Championship Match: Dragon Kid (c) vs. Bandido >6. Open the Twin Gate Championship Match: Tribe Vanguard (YAMATO & BxB Hulk) (c) vs. R.E.D (Big R Shimizu & Takashi Yoshida) >7. Open the Dream Gate Championship Match: Masato Yoshino (c) vs. Ben-K >November 6, 2018: Tokyo, Korakuen Hall >1. Ryo Saito, Don Fujii, Gamma, K-ness. & Kaito Ishida vs. Natural Vibes (Punch Tominaga, "brother" YASSHI), Mondai Ryu, "Hollywood" Stalker Ichikawa & Bitman >2. Masaaki Mochizuki vs. Kota Minoura Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.

I'd like a puro promotion to follow, but I'm tired of all the westernization that NJPW is going through. Not to mention all the fluff and exaggeration of the quality of the show by new fans.

I just want to watch Japanese dudes beating the shit out of each other and having great matches with as few gaijin members as possible. I've thought about BJW too. I just want a promotion with consistency. I'm not into watching the random match here or there. I want to be able to follow show to show.

I know AJPW has Kento Miyahara, but are they really worth watching outside of his stuff?
I have interest in BJW because I like to on-occasion deathmatch, and I've heard about their strong style division. I just don't know if the matches really deliver.
I'm also interested in DDT, but that's because I like silly stuff. Not sure how often they deliver great matches.

>>	Makoto - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:24:44 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6159035 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540135484240.jpg -(17056B / 16.66KB, 282x300) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>6158532 >not a jap

>>	Madmanx - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:24:26 EST ID:IdOCllk4 No.6159378 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540185866909.jpg -(65980B / 64.43KB, 460x460) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>6158763 Modern AJPW is the best.

Given unlimited resources what would you book? A dream match, an event to go down in history, a grueling tournament or a storyline that needs to be told? Would you have rival companies go to war or a clash of legends? A junior tournament to put the CWC and BOSJ to shame or would Owen Hart finally reign as champion? World of Sport circa the late 1970’s crossing time to invade CMLL in the 90’s?

>Extra Challenge: only use current active wrestlers.

My fantasy booking idea would be a Japanese round-robin tournament between the best of the best heavyweights (or close to heavy) from all major Japanese feds. There have been events where some Japanese feds have put together joint events (there’s one coming up in February) but it’s almost always a single card with multi-man and other low stakes matches. This would be a competition to surpass the G1 Climax or the Champion Carnival, there would be a winner and each match would have consequences. Standard round-robin rules, two blocks with 12 men each. Goes without saying but the undercard would consist of young lions, “dads,” and light heavyweights from the respective companies in various matches...maybe even a death match or two.

>Quick Note: The following list is not meant to exclude your favorite wrestler or promotion, just wanted to keep the list to 24 and for each company to have somewhat fair representation. Still ended up with some companies only getting 1 entrant and NJPW over represented...unless you count Minoru Suzuki and Kota Ibushi as a freelancers.

>A Block:

Minoru Suzuki
Kento Miyahara
Hideki Suzuki
Yuji Hino
Go Shiozaki
Tetsuya Naito

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Junkyard Dog - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:11:35 EST ID:HlTI6JXo No.6159303 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540174295118.jpg -(635198B / 620.31KB, 1800x1800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>6159294 Why put a deathmatch guy in a tournament that doesn’t allow for deathmatch wrestling? Why not have a fatal five-way deathmatch with: >Jun Kasai >Ryuji Ito >Yuko Miyamoto >Isamu Kodaka >Masashi Takeda

>>	OldJack - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:07:31 EST ID:9bQMLNAO No.6159416 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540199251323.jpg -(19338B / 18.88KB, 292x363) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Human Tornado VS. Velveteen Dream

>Watch NWA's 70th Anniversary at 7:05pm EDT / 12:05am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and in /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt

The momentum for the NWA 70th Anniversary keeps building strong as the National Wrestling Alliance carries the legacy of Ten Pounds of Gold forward in a mega showdown this Sunday at the historic Asylum at the Nashville Fairgrounds. NWA 70 honors the fighting spirit and upholds pro wrestling tradition since 1948 is exclusively on FITE in conjunction with Global Force Entertainment (GFE).

The main event for NWA 70 features the rematch between NWA Champion Cody vs. Nick Aldis. Cody had won the championship belt that his late father, Dusty Rhodes had won at the height of his career, from the former NWA Champion Nick Aldis at the historic, wrestler promoted, ALL IN event in September.

NWA 70th Anniversary will be marked by the return of Jim Cornette as color commentator who joins Joe Galli, the voice of Championship Wrestling from Hollywood on the broadcast team. The star-studded broadcast team also features Tony Schiavone calling the main event and Jenn Decker as Host. Cyrus Fees will be the special ring announcer.

With the NWA70 card finalized, the event promises a throwback to pro wrestling classics with a new NWA National Heavyweight Champion Tournament. The full card is below:

2/3 Falls Match for the NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship: Cody Rhodes (c) vs. Nick Aldis

NWA World Women's Championship Match: Jazz (c) vs. Penelope Ford

NWA National Heavyweight Championship Final: Winner of Mack/Bradley/Parrow/Starks vs. Winner of Cabana/Guevara/Sky/Shaw

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Ken Doane - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:29:26 EST ID:tn184EeO No.6159335 Ignore Report Quick Reply 1540178966051.jpg -(27466B / 26.82KB, 276x241) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >Cody strong-armed Billy Pumpkins into letting him have the NWA title at his vanity show >Drops it like a month later Based

Based or absolutely based?