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WWE Clash of Champions 2020 - Gold Rush

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!BzcOsK03.w - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:15:20 EST 0CuYXf/X No.6450407
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> Watch WWE Clash of Champions 2020 in http://taima.tv/r/wooo and http://taima.tv/r/woooalt starting with the Kickoff Show at 6pm EDT / 11pm BST with the PPV itself at 7pm EDT / 12am BST
> After the PPV, watch Steve Austin’s Broken Skull Sessions: Kurt Angle in both tubes
  • WWE Universal Title Match: Roman Reigns (w/Paul Heyman) (c) vs. Jey Uso
  • WWE Title Ambulance Match: Drew McIntyre (c) vs. "The True Chosen One" Randy Orton
  • WWE RAW Tag Team Title Match: The Street Profits (Angelo Dawkins & Montez Ford) (c) vs. Andrade & Angel Garza
  • WWE SmackDown Tag Team Title Match: Cesaro & Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs. The Lucha House Party (??? & ???) (w/???)
  • WWE Intercontinental Title Triple Threat Winner Take All Ladder Match: Jeff Hardy (recongised champion) vs. AJ Styles vs. Sami Zayn (claimed champion)
  • WWE United States Title Match: "The Almighty" Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Apollo Crews
  • WWE RAW Women's Title match: Asuka (c) vs Zelina Vega
  • WWE SmackDown Women's Title Match: Bayley (c) vs. Nikki Cross (Match was pulled, according to POST wrestling and supported by WOR)
  • WWE Women's Tag Team Title match: Nia Jax and Shayna Baszler vs. Liv Morgan and Ruby Riott (Also reportedly pulled from the show)
>Roman Reigns (c) vs Jey Uso - Universal Championship match
This is a bout that we're excited about for Clash of Champions 2020. We're not sure if this is going to be the main event, but it will be Roman Reigns' first Universal Championship defense. Jey Uso won the opportunity to become the #1 contender for the Universal Championship at Clash of Champions 2020 after Roman Reigns insisted that his cousin take the place of the injured Big E, who was originally scheduled to compete for the title opportunity. This encounter at Clash of Champions 2020 is for more than just the title. As we saw on the SmackDown go-home show, it's to determine who the Tribal Chief of the Anoa'i family is. It's about the blood that the two cousins share and representing one of the most decorated and celebrated families in wrestling history. Roman Reigns has made it clear that only he can stand on top of the tribe and after Jey Uso questioned him, he was met with a stunning attack. The odds will favor the Champion, but can Jey Uso give Roman Reigns a run for his money at Clash of Champions 2020?
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:14:03 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6450435 Reply
>>6450431
The title is in dispute, given that Sami never lost it in a match. "Winner Takes All", in that context, means the winner will have the undisputed right to the title of "Intercontinental Champion".
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El Zorro - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:21:28 EST 4ZQV/X+y No.6450437 Reply
>>6450431

I'm expecting this to be LOLWWE and two of the competitors grab one title each

Shoot Tube: Inoki Edition

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- Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:04:40 EST LUMg+nxK No.6450389
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>Real Wrestling, be there or be square. 3 PM EDT/8 PM BST over at http://taima.tv/r/wooo

Come watch some Inokism before the PPV tonight.


>IGF Genome11 2/22/2010

Munenori Sawa vs Akira Jo
Taka Kunou vs Hikaru Sato
Ultimo Dragon vs TJ (TJ Perkins)
Erik Hammer vs Daniel Puder vs
Minowaman vs Necro Butcher
First Tiger Mask & Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Osamu Kido & Tatsumi Fujinami
Yoshihiro Takayama vs The Predator
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Guys who should be Managers thread.

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- Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:55:21 EST cfWYsosG No.6450314
File: 1601214921899.png -(594151B / 580.23KB, 1700x867) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Guys who should be Managers thread.
Doesn't matter if they are wrestling related, tell who'd be good as a mouthpiece!


Jesse Ventura should come back and be a manager. The question is, who should he manage?
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Pitbull - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:58:23 EST O1RgnBra No.6450427 Reply
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Joey Diaz. Give that dude a mic and (maybe) some bullet points, and i bet he could cut some god tier promos. Not sure who he would manage though. Would hopefully be somewhere that allows him to call people COCKSUCKAZ too. Could maybe have a mafia/wiseguy type gimmick.
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Vito Thomaselli - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:28:54 EST rqbeZnm6 No.6450439 Reply
>>6450360
Also because WWE had Titus O'Neil doing the same shit, but worse, so it's not like they had any reason to grab Famous B either.
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Ken Shamrock - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:50:52 EST ALUdH1YX No.6450441 Reply
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Lambert can cut a hell of a promo

THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 27th SEPTEMBER '20

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- Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:44:49 EST RVuAPKZ9 No.6450244
File: 1601174689884.png -(122650B / 119.78KB, 300x250) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 27th SEPTEMBER '20
The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
Dave Meltzer's star ratings are now posted in their own thread, so look for it.
Use this thread to post news as it comes through. Do not use the old thread for anything new, please move discussion to here instead.

> COVID has now spread into a number of promotions this past week with a major outbreak in WWE, some in AEW and four of the biggest stars, if not more, in CMLL. All three promotions had to change aspects of their television shows this week. AEW’s television main event was changed. NXT had changes as well as noted by those in the company but were not specific as to what the changes were past there was a significant outbreak. The outbreak was said to affect plans for the Raw brand for 9/28, but there has been no indication it affects the scheduled matches on the 9/27 Clash of Champions a far as participants in the bouts themselves.

> However, those who have been training at the Performance Center of late have been taken off Raw or Smackdown tapings until further notice. There is also fear that the large number of Performance Center athletes who were under masks at Retribution may lead to issues due to interacting with the Raw roster on the 9/21 show.

> Lance Archer tested positive for COVID this past week which caused the company to change the 9/23 TV show. Archer said that when he got home from the last set of shows two weeks ago, a member of his family was sick. He said that person had been driven to the vet by a friend who turned out to test positive. Archer said that he ended up sick and then tested positive.

> Archer was the exception to the rule in the sense that his positive was not wrestling related. Most of the positives in AEW and NXT were related to talent that is in Orlando (not necessarily all, as there is thought some is also related to independent wrestling as some AEW talent and extras have worked some indie dates of late, Ben Carter being the name that has come out although he is not AEW contracted talent). Carter said that he contracted the disease after 9/10, when his recent AEW matches were taped.

> Serena Deeb, who just signed an AEW contract and worked the last set of tapings, said that earlier this week she was in contact with someone who tested positive and would be quarantining herself for two weeks. She seemed to target the date as around 9/20 as on 9/24 she said she would be quarantining for another ten days. She was scheduled on the 9/29 UWN PPV show against Allysin Kay. That match has been changed to Kay vs. Nicole Savoy.

> With the Orlando area being a hotbed as far as wrestlers go, talent from WWE and AEW socialize, go to the gym together, and some are even in relationships together, as well as socialize with some of the same fans and insiders. One person very familiar with the testing results and spread said that was the key reason why it happened at the same time with both companies. There is also the issue with independent promotions opening up, some with fans in attendance. While some are testing, not all are doing so. WWE talent never works independent shows but the non-contracted AEW talent work as many indies as they can, and some AEW contracted talent still works indies as well.

> AEW has acknowledged that the story itself is accurate but due to privacy would not say anything more about it other than Archer has tested positive since he went public with it. AEW has gone a step farther of late in its testing. They are now requiring people to test before coming to Jacksonville and then they get tested a second time on arrival and are not allowed in until the results of the second test come in. With Tony Khan’s NFL connections, he is working with the NFL Covid response team for stricter protocol.

> The idea was that since Eddie Kingston actually didn’t go over the top rope in the Battle Royal (which was likely going to be used down the line) that he would get the 9/23 title match. Right now Moxley vs. Archer is scheduled for the 10/14 Anniversary show. The was talk that they hope the planned six-man tag with Archer & Ricky Starks & Brian Cage vs. Moxley & Darby Allin & Will Hobbs would take place on 10/7 based on the idea they are still planning the match and that would be the only date possible to have it sinc…
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Obariyon - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:17:18 EST jQCKs8Wp No.6450436 Reply
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>>6450412
Yeah, Vince rarely watches anything that isn't WWE so he's just going to take all the shit now and double down on it thinking that's what the jimmies want

If he does actually watch some AEW we're going to get Lemon Cassius
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:22:27 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6450438 Reply
>>6450412
>WWE will continue to be shit and low effort even with competition.
And it has a billion reasons to do it, too.

IWA-MS PRINCE OF THE DEATHMATCHES & DOUBLE DEATH TAG TEAM DEATHMATCH TOURNAMENT 2020 IPPV THREAD

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!lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:03:07 EST HWYsl/vq No.6449855
File: 1601060587778.jpg -(33765B / 32.97KB, 360x540) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. IWA-MS PRINCE OF THE DEATHMATCHES & DOUBLE DEATH TAG TEAM DEATHMATCH TOURNAMENT 2020 IPPV THREAD
>Watch IWS-MS Prince of the Deathmatches on Friday at 7:30pm EDT / 12:30am BST in /wooo/tube 5 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo5 and Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament on Sunday at 5pm EDT / 10pm BST in /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2

September 25th and 27th are part of the IWA Weekend! We have two interesting events - 2020 Prince of the Deathmatches and 2020 Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament! Each tournament will have eight wrestlers/tag team teams and the winner of Prince of the Deathmatches will earn a spot in next year’s King of the Deathmatches tournament. Here’s the lineups for the shows:

>Prince of the Deathmatches 2020 - Friday

*Prince of the Deathmatches 2020 First Round Match - Thumbtack Madness and Barbwire Boards: Logan James vs. Lukas Jacobs
*Prince of the Deathmatches 2020 First Round Match - 4 Corners of Pain and Tube Bundles: Atticus Cogar vs. Kevin Giza
*Prince of the Deathmatches 2020 First Round Match - Hardcore Tables, Ladders, and Doors: Dewey Wellington vs. Lincoln Mosely
*Prince of the Deathmatches 2020 First Round Match - Gussets and Skewers Galore: Cody McCulley vs. Mason Martin
*IWA-MS Tag Team Championship Match: Alice Crowley & Becky Idol (c) vs. 44OH (Eric Ryan & Gregory Iron)
*IWA-MS World Championship Match: Jake Crist © w/ JT Davidson vs. Rickey Shane Page
*Singles Match: Vincent Nothing vs. Jimmy Jacobs
*Plus the semifinals and final of Prince of the Deathmatches 2020![/*]

>Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament 2020 - Sunday

*Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament 2020 First Round Match - Death From Above: 44OH (Eric Ryan & Rickey Shane Page) vs. Masterminds of Death (Colton Collins & Elkview Adam)
*Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament 2020 First Round Match - Fans Bring the Weapons: Amazing Maria & Tyra Russamee vs. SHLAK & Joe McDougal
*Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament 2020 First Round Match - 4 Corners of Pain and Tube Bundles: Young Dragons (Josh Crane & Dale Patricks) vs. Tristen Ramsey & Lukas Jacobs
*Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament 2020 First Round Match - Barbed Wire Boards Taipei Deathmatch Bar Room Brawl: Southern Discomfort (Brad Cash & Cody McCulley) vs. Walking Tall (Neil Diamond Cutter & Herzog)
*Singles Match: Pompano Joe vs. Jimmy Jacobs
*Singles Match: Jake Crist vs. Vincent Nothing
*Plus the semifinals and final of the Double Death Tag Team Deathmatch Tournament 2020![/*]
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:03:13 EST iLikEToleARn No.6449856 Reply
>>6449855
Honestly the only reason anyone remembers that page v uno match was only half good, and then like AoE and starcraft.

Social Media Thread: Pale Moonlight edition

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!QqL8nX9URE - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:05:05 EST t9ej540l No.6449955
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Last one hit the bump limit

No politics, No waifu shit, Bitch up
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Ace Steel - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:01:01 EST n9eKBgQH No.6450429 Reply
>>6450387
That's in hindsight. It was definitely played serially as Daniels knowing a secret about AJ and them just flip flopping with the angle.

Things in wrestling that are BASED

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- Sun, 06 Sep 2020 11:41:15 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6441975
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this thread is for all the people, matches and gimmicks that are undeniably, certifiably, unequivocally, unanimously, fundamentally, 100% scientifically-proven B - A - S - E - D. BASED.

I'll start with the most universally-beloved suggestion: the true crossface submission master SID.
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CMLL 87TH ANIVERSARIO IPPV THREAD

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!lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 15:01:59 EST HWYsl/vq No.6449852
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>Watch CMLL 87th Aniversario at 9:30pm EDT / 2:30am BST in /wooo/tube 3 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo3

CMLL’s anniversary show is its biggest event of the year and tonight will celebrate its 87th anniversary. This year’s show will be a Night of Champions as seven championships will be defended, two of which will be the first defenses for the reigning Micro-Estrellas and World Tag Team champions, as voted on by the fans though due to injury or a positive COVID-19 test, the card has changed. Here’s the lineup for the show:

CMLL World Tag Team Championship Match: La Alianza de Plata y Oro (Carístico & Místico) (c) vs. AtrapaSueños (Rey Cometa & Espíritu Negro)

Mexican National Trios Championship Match: Nueva Generación Dinamita (El Cuatrero, Forastero & Sansón) (c) vs. Los Cancerberos del Infierno (Virus, Raziel & Cancerbero)

Mexican National Women’s Championship Match: La Metálica (c) vs. Reina Isis

CMLL World Women’s Championship Match: Marcela (c) vs. Dalys

NWA World Historic Welterweight Championship Match: Volador Jr. (c) vs. Templario

CMLL World Welterweight Championship Match: Titán (c) vs. Soberano Jr.

CMLL World Micro-Estrellas Championship Match: Chamuel (c) vs. Microman
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Haruna Akagi - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 23:30:32 EST gctz3aM1 No.6450056 Reply
And heres to another 87 years

People in wrestling you thought were going to breakout but didn't

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!BzcOsK03.w - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:25:29 EST 0CuYXf/X No.6449528
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>Discuss people in wrestling you thought were going to take off and elevate their careers significantly but for one reason or another it didn't pan out
Christina Von Errie is a wrestler from Reno, NV but who got adopted by the SoCal scene where people first took notice of because of her Brody Dalle-esque Punk Rocker character. She started off in 2008 and by 2010 she was already the "other girl" in PWG, being the only other woman wrestling in the promotion besides Candice LaRae. By the end of 2010, TNA had her come do a dark match for them so they could take a look at her.

In 2011, SHIMMER the All women's promotion out of Chicago made her a regular roster member and TNA took her on as "Toxxin", pairing her up with Shannon Moore and Jesse Neal of Ink Inc. While the role was small, get a foot in the door of nationally televised TNA seemed like it meant Christina was going to stay on the radar. Jesse Neal and Von Errie had a whirlwind romance that lead to them getting engaged by July 2011 but the relationship broke apart afterwards.

It was around the 2011 point where I thought "Alright, PWG and TNA in the bag, she's about to go somewhere with this now".

In 2013 she started picking up dates with CZW and sister promotion WSU, which was around the same time she began engaged to Deathmatch mainstay MASADA and indeed the two worked a few matches with each other. They were also engaged at one point but that also didn't work out.

The mid-10s were good for Christina indie-wise, where she was now picking up numerous gigs in promotions across America, however, the TNA gig from 2011 didn't produce as much mileage as I might have thought. Ink Inc didn't go far past 2011 and thus neither did "Toxxin". TNA brought her back years later as the GFW's Women's Champion put that angle ended up a lame duck and didn't lead to much extra work. In that same era she picked up some work with HOODSLAM in Oakland, which I thought might be good for her as new "home" promotion since Christina's punk thing would definitely vibe with them. Being from Reno, she occasionally worked with Reno Scum. Reno Scum ended up working for Impact for a while, but CVE was not brought back in with them.

However, by the end of the 10s she was drifted towards Canada and ECCW up in the Vancouver, British Columbia area. This would eventually lead her to meeting and marrying Scotty Mac, a mainstay of that promotion, in what appears to be a very happy marriage. As a result of that, Vancouver and ECCW act as her current base.

In 2019 WWE signed Shotzi Blackheart, a Californian chick who started working in 2015 who also runs with an alternative/punk look who had worked with promotions such as HOODSLAM and wrestled Von Errie in a few matches in 2018 before being signed. Shotzi is now doing very well for herself in NXT.

I thought between an easy-to-communicate character, a varied experience of working with both guys and girls, and getting a connection with a televised company like TNA would have put CVE on the path to be someone decently visible on the wrestling radar, but for whatever that didn't quite go for her and she remained only ever doing good but not outstanding on the indie scene.

Go figure. Who you guys got?
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NJPW G1 CLIMAX 30: DAY 5 THREAD

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!a8BiNwIDng - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:35:01 EST fCG7gS6I No.6450166
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After an Osaka start, and long trip up north to Hokkaido, the G1 tour comes back to the Kansai region in the south west of Japan for night four, and the third night of A Block action. Now all 20 wrestlers in the tournament are out of the starting blocks; with just three members undefeated at the present moment, it’s already looking hotly competitive, while those at the bottom of the table will need to pick up their game tonight or risk being on the bubble by the mid point of their campaign. Points are determined with two points for a win, one point for a draw, and zero points for a loss. Here are the tournament standings and the lineup for the show:

>Watch NJPW G1 Climax 30: Day 5 at 3am EDT / 8am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt

>A Block

*Kota Ibushi - 2
*Jay White - 2
*Minoru Suzuki - 2
*Taichi - 2
*Will Ospreay - 2
*Kazuchika Okada - 0
*Shingo Takagi - 0
*Tomohiro Ishii - 0
*Jeff Cobb - 0
*Yujiro Takahashi - 0

>B Block

*Tetsuya Naito - 4
*Toru Yano - 4
*Juice Robinson - 4
*Zack Sabre Jr. - 2
*KENTA - 2
*EVIL - 2
*Hirooki Goto - 2
*Hiroshi Tanahashi - 0
*SANADA - 0
*YOSHI-HASHI - 0
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Hornswoggle - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:17:46 EST FpQEOx+c No.6450289 Reply
As Roman Reigns would say:

That was some filet mignon

The rock

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- Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:28:30 EST UuSDYdkN No.6450354
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How would WWE have been if he never left for hollywood and stayed in the business for another 15 years?

Could the ratings have stayed high? Or would he be helpless to overcome WWE turning to shit?
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Indie Wrestling General Threadhausen #22

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:17:01 EST jCH8J3Fu No.6349567
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Continuing from last thread >>6283406

>Indie Tube airs on Thursdays at 4pm EDT / 9pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo showcasing matches and shows from the indie wrestling scene in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, Germany, and more!
>Limitless Wrestling The Road airs weekly on Wednesday at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube 3 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo3
>Championship Wrestling From Hollywood airs weekly on Thursdays at 9pm EDT / 2am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 2pm EDT / 7pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>OVW TV also airs weekly on Thursdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 1pm EDT / 6pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Reality of Wrestling also airs weekly on Thursdays at 11pm EDT / 4am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 12pm EDT / 5pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>VOD and live events are shown in the tubes as well so keep an eye on /wooo/ for information on those as they're scheduled and updated in the "Upcoming Events" section on /wooo/tube and #woootubeschedule on Discord.

Here is an assortment of notable indie wrestling websites and streaming services:

>http://www.pwponderings.com/
>https://lastwordonprowrestling.com/
>https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/
>http://socaluncensored.com/
>https://independentwrestling.tv/
>https://www.highspotswrestlingnetwork.com/
>https://www.fite.tv/
>http://smartmarkvideo.com/

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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 10:58:50 EST 48pp0a3s No.6450334 Reply
>>6450304
Assuming that is the reason the fight was cancelled, I can see why Barnett would go over. It's a promotion that's supposed to be holding itself like a shoot, and it wasn't very long ago when Barnett subbed Dean Lister, who hadn't been submitted in about 10 years. He was one of the best non-BJJ submission grapplers in the world during the last decade, so it'd be pretty unbelievable to me for weekend warrior Moxley to beat him in a match presented as a shoot.
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Ophidan - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:23:40 EST TthMVMNX No.6450336 Reply
>>6450168
>>6450287
>>6450304
I really doubt Barnett cared whether he won or not. He probably wasn't even booked to win the two previous bouts. Its more likely the change happened because him and GCW wanted to give Chris Dickinson a spotlight match. Dickinson had a stacked Mania weekend lined up with big matches against Shingo, Suzuki, and The Great Muta (the main event of JJSP 4 was originally going to be him & Janela vs Muta & Stantlander) and that all go swept away. At least this match can somewhat make up for all the opportunities The Dirty Daddy lost out on
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Ophidan - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:23:50 EST TthMVMNX No.6450352 Reply
>>6450334
Despite how hard Barnett tries to sell Bloodsport as a "super serious shoot" he can't be taking it that seriously if he went to a time limit draw with Minoru Suzuki. Yeah he might still be a badass in NJPW and one of the early innovators of the sport but if you look at the brass tax Suzuki hasn't won a serious MMA bout since 2000 and Josh had the weight, height, and age advantage on him by 10 years. Barnett might be a tight ass sometimes but he's not delusional enough to think he's going over on a major marquee talent like Jon Moxley. Everyone's probably just grateful Mox wanted to be part of the show in the first place

WWE Smackdown+Main Event+205: Another "unrecongised title" angle in 2020, really?

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!BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 17:12:29 EST 0CuYXf/X No.6449932
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>Watch WWE Smackdown with /wooo/ in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt at 8pm Eastern//1am London. Smackdown will be preceded by WWE Main Event, and followed by 205 Live. On tonight's show:
  • (Recognised) WWE Intercontinental Champion Jeff Hardy vs. (Unrecognised) WWE Intercontinental Champion Sami Zayn (non-title)
  • Alexa Bliss vs. Lacey Evans.
  • Will Otis hand over his Money In the Bank title shot to The Miz and John Morrison to avoid a lawsuit?
  • WWE Universal Champion Roman Reigns gives an exclusive interview on his relationship with cousin Jey Uso
  • Clash of Champions is this Sunday
The go-home episode of Friday Night SmackDown for Clash Of Champions 2020 will go down tonight with the main focus on all the final hype for the weekend's PPV where all the Championships will be on the line. Announced for the show tonight, Roman Reigns will be seen in a very special interview talking about his family and cousins in the headliner segment, while the Intercontinental Champion will be in action against a man who believes he himself is the champion despite not having the belt.

Plus, the WWE's Goddess will compete in a match against Lacey Evans and high dramas around Money in the Bank briefcase should also unfold when WWE airs tonight's edition of SmackDown from the Amway Center in Orlando, Florida.

This Sunday, Roman Reigns will face his first Universal Championship defense since winning the belt at Payback 2020 against his cousin, Jey Uso. Just two nights before The Bloodline goes to battle, the champion will have a sit down interview to share his side of the story on his relationship with Jey before the Title Match. The two Samoans have teamed up to secure a pair of wins over Sheamus & King Corbin in the last couple of weeks on SmackDown. But the possible rifts in the relationship were noticed during the Samoan Street Fight win as the two shared an icy staredown instead of a heartfelt celebration. So we can only imagine what only The Big Dog has to offer about one of his family members.

Before they go into a title match showdown with AJ Styles at WWE Clash of Champions, Intercontinental Champion Jeff Hardy and Sami Zayn will face off in a non-title match on SmackDown. Zayn has tried to be The Great Liberator which appeared to be nothing more than a trouble-maker gimmick for the champion. Before Hardy goes into the ladder match this Sunday, he seems focused on shutting up Zayn and this non-title match is the best way to do so.

Alexa Bliss will compete against Lacey Evans on SmackDown in an interesting matchup. Bliss shockingly hit the Sister Abigail finisher on The Sassy Southern Belle after Cross' win over the latter, last week. The Fiend continues to have some sort of hold over Bliss, sending her into a trance as observed, multiple times in the recent past. The question remains whether the former Women’s Champion is in a proper state to compete in a full-length match.

The Miz continues to play mind games with Otis over his possession on Money in the Bank 2020 briefcase. As if losing Mandy Rose to Raw, wasn't enough devastating for him, now he was directed to surrender the MITB contract to The Miz or else, he could be sued by the A-lister. Could the emerging superstar indeed be forced to get rid of this life-altering opportunity, for real? Or he'd find something to hold on to the hopes of becoming a world champion, someday. We'll find out when SmackDown comes up with its latest live edition from the ThunderDome.
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Leva Bates - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 10:45:00 EST Ynl+K5T5 No.6450329 Reply
>>6450320
>I'd love to know what stuff you read and watch.
Maybe you should tell us what you read and watch. You're the one calling WWE programming compelling TV.

This reminds me of earlier in the year when WWE fans were calling Randy the best heel in wrestling. Most of them are so starved of a good product that anything even a little bit decent is talked about like it's the best thing going.

I'm not saying it's bad, but it's still WWE. It's still a cartoon for kids, it's still going to have 5 camera cuts a second and God awful commentary.
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Johnny Swinger - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 10:46:49 EST ZUrtGNGY No.6450331 Reply
Story doesn't matter - only authorial voice matters. Every story combination has been told, friend vs friend, family vs family, man vs nature, et cetera. It doesn't matter if the story has been told (broadly) before, it only matters that you care about the specific people the story is told about and how they're presented, by the author if it's a book, by the performers if it's a more unique storytelling medium like pro wrestling.

That's what made Austin/McMahon compelling. It had a unique voice (that they then tried to copy & paste into a million pale knockoffs). It's what made Hogan/Savage compelling. It's what made the nWo compelling. They were all big, archetypal predictable stories told with unique voices. Yes, there was still a final authority on the story, but the wrestlers got to bring in their own unique takes and details and voices that made the stories actually capture people's imagination.

That's also why "the face is a hollow idiot sap attention whore with no motivation besides being cheered who underdogs his way to victory against the guy with personality" is awful storytelling that hasn't brought in new viewers in decades. Vince taking creativity and voice away from wrestlers is what's killing the WWE. Vince trying to assign voices to wrestlers that don't at all fit them is a huge problem.

That a story is "predictable" is really poor criticism, when the issue is more likely that it's just told really badly.
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Meng - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:34:37 EST SdPbl+Wq No.6450340 Reply
>>6450320
Should've put up a warning for that wall-o'-text my guy.

>He's basically Kevin Owens' character in NXT

Well this comparison does him no favours.

>it's an earned moment (except it's not)

You're doing the debunking for me. Thanks!

> If you don't think that two family members fighting one another, and the supposed bad guy has a better motivation than the good guy is compelling, then I'd love to know what stuff you read and watch.

Again: this comparison does no favours because this is something done better ad infinitum elsewhere.

New Data On Why Adults Are No Longer Watching Pro Wrestling

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- Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:38:41 EST 7kJ8vSTF No.6449981
File: 1601073521623.jpg -(272011B / 265.64KB, 600x338) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. New Data On Why Adults Are No Longer Watching Pro Wrestling
>The Variety Intelligence Platform has a new article looking at four main issues facing WWE that are threatening the company's bottom line. It was noted that the stock may continue to fall over the next few months based on four issues the company is facing - the decline in TV ratings, the decline in kids audience, money owed from the 10-year deal with Saudi Arabia, and backlash over the independent contractor status of talents, mainly the recent comments from former booking presidential candidate Andrew Yang.

>Regarding the TV decline, VIP noted that WWE RAW has lost around 2 million viewers for most of their 2020 episodes versus 2015 levels. Exclusive data from pollsters YouGov shows that the main reasons behind the decline has to do with low-quality writing in the storylines. YouGov polled 471 adults aged 18 or older who used to watch at least one of WWE NXT, RAW, SmackDown or AEW Dynamite. They collected the following data on reasons why United States viewers stopped watching pro wrestling on TV:

* 30% - It seemed more cartoonish than when I liked it
* 29% - Storylines were not as good/interesting
* 28% - Characters were not as good/interesting
* 26% - Matches were not as good/interesting
* 14% - The content was more geared toward children
* 9% - Announcing was not as good
* 7% - The show wasn't listening to the fans
* 24% - Other
* 12% - Not sure

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2020/09/new-data-on-why-adults-are-no-longer-watching-pro-wrestling-675183/

Remember when people tried to argue that wrestling is suppose to be silly? Here's what your silly wrestling does, it kills the business.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:43:44 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6450293 Reply
>>6450288
I mean, you joke, but take out the "magic robots" part and that's American pro wrestling in a nutshell.
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Shawn Michaels - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:49:06 EST p24i342Z No.6450295 Reply
>All these excuses for bad production.
It's shit and people don't like shit.

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