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- Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:02:23 EST Ybchf0OF No.6337645
File: 1576285343653.png -(215733B / 210.68KB, 424x318) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. SMACKDOWN
It's on and there is no thread yet, so unless Celt or someone else makes an official thread, this will do.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:12:52 EST YILbGvXF No.6337655 Reply

Was 'British' wrestling ever good to begin with?

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- Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:23:57 EST gf1aRfxy No.6333769
File: 1575318237111.jpg -(91762B / 89.61KB, 470x677) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Was 'British' wrestling ever good to begin with?
Pic relared was our Rock & Austin, our Hulk Hogan and Savage. Our El Santo and Blue Demon Jr. Big Daddy was our Hulk Hogan, El Santo & Rikidozan.

These two men would finish matches by being fat. Their opponents would run into them and be rebounded by their fatness and then they'd take 30 seconds to pin their opponent wheezing all the while.

Other notable draws for the world of sport era was a masked man pretending to be Japanese and hypnotised his opponents was an homage to an ancient wizard on a popular TV show who would tickle his opponents. This is what the British public would gather in droves on saturday afternoons to watch.

Somehow history has been re-written and we were supposed to believe that the flippy wristlock cruiserweight division were meant to be the big stars who carried British wrestling forward when that clearly wasn't true.

Is it any coincidence that the biggest crossover star 'britwres' has produced is a jolly dancing scottsman who entered to a Madonna remix? Seriously, look at him now. He's on prime time Scottish TV and making a better living than the people who signed contracts with NXT UK.

The 'resurgence' that occured lately was quite impressive and did a great job if getting fans in - it seemed like British wrestling had finally 'evolved' to the point where it could hold and maintain a solid niche audience. That all changed for numerous reasons and I wont go into them all.

However I feel like one reason why I feel like it ended was because the top talent we had were propped up with good marketing and booking and that the overwhelming majority of our talent couldnt connect to a worldwide audience that didnt already love them when they stepped trough the curtain.

The culture in the UK during the boom period was that everyone was 'friends' and that probably kept more than a couple wrestlers who are really just bang average getting mega pushes across the scene through being simply willed into being popular. Take Jimmy Havoc for example. A god amongst men in britwres circle but a strange looking balding middle aged man with a staple gun in AEW.

The next generation doesn't look too hopeful either. Most training schools seem dead set on teaching 'british' wrestling through passing convoluted wristhold reversals down the line so parents can be bored and wish they went to the cinema instead while their children wonder where John Cena is. All the while the guy in the schadenfreude t shirt is creaming himself.

I put the question to you /wooo/. Was britwres ever good?
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Angelina Love - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 17:17:47 EST /Nl9c6bo No.6334152 Reply
The snake pit is still alive in Wigan & there is also a gym in Harrow that does it along side BJJ.
KENTA - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 17:28:58 EST 0ia2DwE9 No.6334153 Reply
i saw johnny saint and quack wrestle johnny kidd and colt cabana a few years ago, they did 20 minutes of catch and it was awesome
Ezekiel Jackson - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:14:19 EST kDhu5Ddp No.6337657 Reply
Actually watched some early WoS. It was ok except for the occasional really slow dull match. Big Daddy wasn't the worst stuff on those early eps. Sammy Lee and Iron Fist were the highlights though. Kinda looking forward to catching up where I left off with WoS.

CMLL (FRI) 12/13/2019 Arena México LIVE (maybe)

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- Fri, 13 Dec 2019 12:04:02 EST GXHNtkkw No.6337563
File: 1576256642899.png -(756782B / 739.04KB, 800x492) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. CMLL (FRI) 12/13/2019 Arena México LIVE (maybe)
>9:30pm EST / 2:30am GMT in http://taima.tv/r/wooo2 - CMLL Super Viernes
1) Retro & Robin vs Akuma & Yago
2) Pegasso, Príncipe Diamante, Stigma vs Disturbio, Nitro, Virus
3) Dulce Gardenia, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Kawato San, Okumura, Tiger
4) Stuka Jr. vs Felino [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Gran Guerrero
6) Carístico, Negro Casas, Valiente vs Euforia, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]

there may or may not be a stream tonight
last week cubsfan said
>I'm not sure if I'm streaming next Friday. Or I'm streaming next Friday from a high school gym while being asked if I'm really doing it.
this fellow was offering to stream if Cubsfan can't, no idea what will happen

when cubsfan did his quick roundup of the weekend shows he didn't mention if he was or wasn't streaming
Soberano jr working on the rudo team might be interesting
looks like a decent Friday but nothing life-changing
Bruno Sammartino - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 19:23:09 EST GXHNtkkw No.6337635 Reply
I've queued up the cubsfan feed and the NOAH Christmas special for filler, that should wrap a bit before 930
I'm probably going to be done with the onlines for the night by then, I've got a thing early in the morning.

"Britwres is alive and well"

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- Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:35:16 EST BlrIoG3o No.6335238
File: 1575668116720.png -(195384B / 190.80KB, 1194x1460) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. "Britwres is alive and well"
-Pete Dunne, November 27, 2018
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El Oriental - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:12:53 EST bWZ+YR1t No.6337612 Reply
Pls. WOS was campy wrestling fun unlike anything else on TV. The production was like there was a methhead at the switcher, but it had potential.
Pokka !!4vMEXnV5 - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 17:12:36 EST M1ahJWky No.6337621 Reply
Yeah, I really wanted it to do well, but it was like AEW in the sense of "here are some matches". you'd think ITV, whose bread and butter is reality tv shows where they play Coldplay while a wannabe singer narrates a sob story in order to create an emotional hook for audiences to connect, would understand the importance of character building.
Rockin' Robin - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 19:04:45 EST uVCJsa/W No.6337633 Reply
I really wish Progress had tried to make it on their own, I think they could have gotten the support of BT Sport if they had the ambition to go for it. A fortnightly Progress show following the Sunday afternoon football would have been a ratings smash.

Women wrestling

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 09:37:02 EST KsSr5UmI No.6337251
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Let's be real here. It's a side act. No one is buying tickets to a show for the women matches. I'm not saying women's wrestling is bad, I'm saying it draws about as much as the tag division. There was a brief moment when Becky was getting close to being a draw, but that has since faded.
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Sami Zayn - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:01:24 EST T27T75Qv No.6337608 Reply
lol and what else draws today? because the men sure as well arent

the women draw merch just like the rest of em
thats about it
no man/woman is a big rock/austin draw today
Max Moon - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:07:50 EST Td7mmGNM No.6337611 Reply
Crush Gals unironically drew more than Sandman literally ever has.


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!F612/rL8Ks - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 13:16:19 EST 8onUjywP No.6337576
File: 1576260979584.jpg -(162426B / 158.62KB, 720x540) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. FSW KILLER KROSS’ NATURAL BORN KILLERS 2 & BOBBY EATON: A NIGHT OF APPRECIATION IPPV THREAD
>Watch FSW Killer Kross’ Natural Born Killers 2 on Friday at 11pm EST / 4am GMT and Bobby Eaton: A Night of Appreciation on Saturday at 8pm EST / 1am GMT both in /wooo/tube 3 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo3

>FSW Killer Kross’ Natural Born Killers 2 - Friday @ 11pm EST / 4am GMT

*Singles Match: Killer Kross vs. Chris Dickinson
*Singles Match: Austin Aries vs. Simon Gotch
*Singles Match: Douglas James vs. TJ Perkins
*Singles Match: Graves vs. MVP
*Singles Match: Lacey Ryan vs. Kyra Batara
*Singles Match: Cut Throat Cody vs. Nick Bugatti

>Bobby Eaton: A Night of Appreciation - Saturday @ 8pm EST / 1am GMT

*Singles Match: Jax Dane vs. The Barbarian
*Singles Match: Chase Owens vs. Crazzy Steve
*Innovate United States Heavyweight Championship Match: Jordan Kage (c) w/ John Hawkins vs. Gustavo Aguilar
*Tag Team Match: The Industry (Devin Driscoll & Mik Drake) vs. Richard Holliday & TBA
*Tag Team Match: Kenzie Paige Henry & Dream Girl Ellie vs. Cali Young & Sahara Se7en
*Tag Team Match: The Heatseekers (Sigmon & Elliot Russell) vs. The Tate Twins (Brandon Tate & Brent Tate
*Plus the following:

*Bobby Eaton
*Dennis Condrey
*Tracy Smothers
*George South
*Kevin Kelly
*Dr Tom Prichard
*Les Thatcher
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Lucha Libre general - AAA King of North American 5.4 million viewers edition

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- Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:13:17 EST GXHNtkkw No.6223673
File: 1556154797136.jpg -(919037B / 897.50KB, 3300x2200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Lucha Libre general - AAA King of North American 5.4 million viewers edition
This thread is for general discussion of lucha libre.

>Lucha Tube is on Wednesdays at 3pm EDT / 8pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://www.taima.tv/r/wooo and shows the latest matches from CMLL, AAA, and Mexican indie scene.
>CMLL’s weekly shows air live on Mondays from Arena Puebla at 10pm EDT / 3am BST, Tuesdays from Arena Mexico at 8:30pm EDT / 1:30am BST and Fridays from Arena Mexico at 9:30pm EDT / 2:30am BST all in /wooo/tube 2 - http://www.taima.tv/r/wooo2
>Major CMLL and AAA events will be shown when scheduled in the tubes.

links for videos and stuff to follow

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Sumie Sakai - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 10:22:13 EST BlrIoG3o No.6337552 Reply
>WON: Dragon Lee signed a one-year contract with New Japan after meeting with Naoki Sugabayashi and Tiger Hattori in secret when they were in Mexico. CMLL wasn’t aware of the meeting or that Lee was signed.
Daniel Puder - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:57:22 EST GXHNtkkw No.6337562 Reply
>oh sure ROH kinda fucked us over with Rush and all but at least we still have our good pals NJP-

Why are wrestling fans so fat and retarded

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:51:38 EST QXt8L/im No.6337453
File: 1576212698068.png -(336947B / 329.05KB, 640x959) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why are wrestling fans so fat and retarded
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 08:11:09 EST It2BUKqt No.6337524 Reply
Jericho as Wrestler of the 2010s? I can agree with that.
Danny Doring - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 08:43:33 EST JC9WWRCu No.6337528 Reply
And it was taped in January? Still counts. Cena 4 superstar of the year slammy award.
Alex Riley - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 10:20:38 EST dqBD0tDt No.6337549 Reply
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Extreme Rules 2012 would have been a Five Star match had the right guy gone over.

Remember when John Cean was stabbed in the kidney by Carlito's bodyguard, Jesus?

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 00:34:24 EST QXt8L/im No.6337213
File: 1576128864425.jpg -(41182B / 40.22KB, 642x361) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Remember when John Cean was stabbed in the kidney by Carlito's bodyguard, Jesus?
Why didn't that affect him long term?
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Matt Jackson - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 10:10:55 EST WO35XrW4 No.6337546 Reply
Homicide was getting pretty over on the indies during that time period too. Would've been really cool to see in hindsight. Same goes for New Jack. Oh well! :(

Wednesday Night War: Week 11 Ratings

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 16:24:42 EST uGInp/Qh No.6337349
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AEW: 778,000
NXT: 778,000
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WrestleKingdom 2020: Full Cards for Night 1 and Night 2

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- Mon, 09 Dec 2019 11:50:36 EST BlrIoG3o No.6336259
File: 1575910236768.jpg -(302559B / 295.47KB, 600x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. WrestleKingdom 2020: Full Cards for Night 1 and Night 2
Night 1:
>Kazuchika Okada vs. Kota Ibushi for the IWGP Heavyweight Championship.
>Jay White vs. Tetsuya Naito for the IWGP Intercontinental Championship.
>Will Ospreay vs. Hiromu Takahashi for the IWGP Jr. Hvt. Championship.
>Lance Archer vs. Jon Moxley in a Texas Death Match for the IWPG U.S. Championshp.
>Tama Tonga and Tanga Loa vs. Juice Robinson and David Finlay for the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Titles.
>Shingo Takagi, Evil, Sanada, and Bushi vs. Minoru Suzuki, Zack Sabre Jr., Taichi, and El Desperado.
>Tomohiro Ishii, Hirooki Goto, Toru Yano, and Yoshi-Hashi vs. Kenta, Bad Luck Fale, Chase Owens, and Yujiro Takahashi.
>Jushin Liger, Tatsumi Fujinami, Great Sasuke, and Tiger Mask vs. Naoki Sano, Shinjiro Otani, Tatsuhito Takaiwa, and Ryusuke Taguchi in Liger’s retirement match with Norio Honaga as special referee.

Night 2:
>IWGP Heavyweight Champion vs. IWGP Intercontinental Champion.
>The loser of Saturday’s IWGP Heavyweight Championship match vs. the loser of Saturday’s IWGP Intercontinental Championship match.
>Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Chris Jericho.
>Kenta vs. Hirooki Goto for the Never Openweight Title.
>(Lance Archer or Jon Moxley) vs. Juice Robinson for the IWGP U.S. Championship.
>Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Sanada for the British Heavyweight Championship.
>Taiji Ishimori and El Phantasmo vs. Sho and Yoh for the IWPG Jr. Hvt. Tag Titles.
>Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano vs. Ryu Lee (a/k/a Dragon Lee) vs. Hiromu Takahasi in Liger’s final match.

>Both events will be available for live streaming via New Japan World and presumably via FITE.TV again. The New Year Dash event will be held on January 6 in Tokyo at Ota City General Gymnasium. The card will be announced in the ring on the day of the show, and the Liger retirement ceremony will also be held.

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Adrian Adonis - Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:34:33 EST gF+lQNyj No.6337419 Reply
Naito is a greater draw and more over than Gedo's boy has ever been.

>WWE might have cowed to the participation medal cancer sweeping through western wrestling's fanbase

lmao OK boomer

>even if the challenger loses he still is more over after the match than before

Who's the last challenger this actually happened for?

nowah !gJyJMqu4hs - Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:13:14 EST 4fnzgYTb No.6337440 Reply
Probably Zack, but that was reign four. Nobody in the fifth.
Adrian Adonis - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 03:15:33 EST gF+lQNyj No.6337499 Reply
ZSJ has been spinning his wheels in New Japan for years. Hasn't even gotten a token 6-Man title reign.

Bret Hart in a comedy sketch

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:50:49 EST b0jIMCOD No.6337303
File: 1576176649534.jpg -(37014B / 36.15KB, 696x392) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Bret Hart in a comedy sketch

Just saw this on twitter and thought it was from a long time ago but it's super recent. Got some good laughs out of it. Give'R
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Gedo - Thu, 12 Dec 2019 19:08:14 EST eOG2BuCF No.6337390 Reply
Post Sasso was still great until around 05. Remember it having a lot more race humor

Dragon Gate Tube: Best of the 2010s

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:59:52 EST 4JW+ohmc No.6337385
File: 1576195192194.jpg -(32409B / 31.65KB, 577x311) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Dragon Gate Tube: Best of the 2010s
>Watch Dragon Gate Tube tonight at 8 PM EST/1 AM BST in http://taima.tv/r/mondainightryu

The 2010s has been an incredible decade filled with some of the best matches in Dragon System history & tonight in /dg/tube, we're gonna look back at 5 of the very best except for 2019, which'll have its own best of tube


  1. Shingo Takagi vs. BxB Hulk: Hair vs. Hair - Kobe World 2010
  2. Mad Blankey (YAMATO, Naruki Doi, K-Ness, Cyber Kong & Mondai Ryu) vs. Jimmyz (Genki Horiguchi H.A.GEE.MEE!!!, Jimmy Susumu, Ryo "Jimmy" Saito, Jimmy Kanda & Mister Kyu Kyu Naoki Tanizaki Toyonaka Dolphin): Losing Unit Disbands Match - Dangerous Gate 2015
  3. Shingo Takagi (c) vs. Masaaki Mochizuki: Open The Dream Gate Championship - Gate of Destiny 2015
  4. Shingo Takagi (c) vs. YAMATO: Open The Dream Gate Championship - Kobe World Pro Wresting Festival 2016
  5. BxB Hulk vs. Naruki Doi vs. CIMA vs. Jimmy Kanda vs. Masato Yoshino vs. Mister Kyu Kyu Naoki Tanizaki Toyonaka Dolphin: Six Way Steel Cage - Dead or Alive 2014


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- Thu, 05 Dec 2019 22:42:03 EST z+c6DKUE No.6335048
File: 1575603723248.jpg -(38190B / 37.29KB, 240x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 6TH DECEMBER '19
The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
Dave Meltzer's star ratings will also be posted in this thread should there be any.
Use this thread to post news as it comes through. Do not use the old thread for anything new, try and move discussion to here instead.

> ROH’s pulling its contract offer from women’s champion Kelly Klein, saying she breached her existing deal by disseminating e-mails with that information to Adam Birch (Joey Mercury), led to a story in Newsweek two weeks ago. For some clarifications on things sent out by Birch and B.J. Whitmer, Klein’s husband, who previously worked at ROH as a producer before taking a job with AEW, Klein had a $20,000 per year contract with ROH for 2019, which allowed her to work anywhere else but that ROH would get first dibs on her services. Klein, 33, had worked 19 dates before her in-ring year ended on 10/26 when suffering a concussion in a match with Lana Austin in Newport, Wales.

> ROH and Klein had been in negotiations on a new deal. ROH had offered her $50,000 for 2020, but the new deal would be exclusive, in the sense she could not work any independent shows in the U.S. or in the province of Ontario. ROH pulled the offer and Klein will remain under contract until 12/31. Given her concussion, and only two shows left, it is unlikely she will drop the title in the ring and no announcement has been made regarding it. “What really surprised me is we’ve always had great dialogue with Kelly in the past,” said ROH COO Joe Koff. “Issues could have been addressed. For some reason she chose to disclose a private e-mail that tarnished our image and was a clear violation of the contract.”

> Koff said that as of right now, Klein is still under contract and that if she was medically cleared, they would welcome having her defend the belt on shows between now and the end of the year. Of course that isn’t going to happen. But the far bigger issue raised in Newsweek were claims by Klein and Birch, and three others who were not named, saying ROH only has medical personnel at shows when required by local commissions and that Klein herself was treated by a doctor who worked for the local venue. Klein told Sports Illustrated that no medical personnel were at ringside or backstage at the event.

> ROH denied the story, with Joe Koff claiming that the doctor in question on the night Klein was concussed was provided by ROH, not the venue, and that inn commission states, they will use commission doctors, but for all other shows, they have medical professionals at the events. He claimed the company has protocol, that the doctors at the arena take the first look and the company monitors the situation. Koff noted that both he and Greg Gilleland, the ROH General Manager who has come under fire many times of the years, had texted Klein over the course of several days after the injury. And when her symptoms of a concussions started to occur, they booked Birch and Klein for an extra night in London before flying them back.

> Koff claimed that they have a concussion protocol, which they told Newsweek dates back to 2016. The protocol is said to be turning it over to their medical professionals. They also allow talent to use their own doctors and they would not be allowed to perform until they are cleared. Birch and Klein claimed there was no policy and Klein asked to see the policy in a November meeting with Koff, who told her they had one but it was not written. Klein said she wrestled another six minute after suffering the concussion and laid on the locker room floor for about an hour before getting any medical attention.

> Koff said he was told Klein didn’t realize she had a serious injury until some time after the match and that when given the choice of going to the hospital, she declined. Koff said he texted her and she told him he was fine as soon as he heard she was injured. ROH has paid for her medical treatment up to this point. Koff said told Sports Illustrated his intentions were to make sure she’s whole, which would indicate paying for medical treatment if she needs it after the end of the contract.

> Koff noted that T.K. O’Ryan, who had been out of action for months but was believed to be the wrestler who suffered from post-concussion issues that were thought to be possibly career threateni…
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