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You know if you really think about it, the UWF was an actual success

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- Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:39:54 EST yhwaeriU No.6447519
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Not the promotion itself, the actual promotion had absolutely zero chance in competing with the WWF on any serious level but that one, brief interaction between Herb and Vince was the domino effect that led to everything that ended up happening that is now currently happening in the modern day. Think about it. Herb starts off as this sort of Jim Cornette level booker. He wants to book an old school 70's territory and bring in a bunch of people to wrestle each other who were namely high level draws in territories during the peak of Cornette's success. Herb goes to Vince and decides to humor him saying "look. I know you've been buying up all these different territories but how about I level with you. You off handedly promote my company and i'll do the same for you."

Herb, not understanding at all that the reason why Vince was buying up all the territories was because he wanted Professional Wrestling to identify as his own personal monopoly and for awhile Vince had that dream for a couple of years until way later when all these indie promotions began showing up all over the United States and while they can't financially compete with the WWF they're proof that Vince failed his original ambition of making the WWF the only wrestling promotion that actually exists.


It you really dig deep into it, Herb getting fucked on Cocaine and doing erratic nonsense booking from week to week, this is what inspired Vince Russo's entire booking policy. Between that and Jerry Springer. Herb going to Vince at all and seeing him as direct competition and even going so far as to pilfer talent who werent getting serious big money contracts with the WWF anymore because they were passed their prime would be the inspiration for both Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo on how they would manage their booking policy in the late 90's during the dying years of WCW


Herb wanting direct TV competition with the WWF AT ALL was the lightbulb that went "click" in Ted Turner's head when he decided to make World Class Championship Wrestling the real direct competition that Vince never wanted to deal with. If Vince just took Herb up on his offer, all the shit that Vince will never let go throughout his entire life never would have happened and its all because of the UWF.
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 09:14:00 EST zNyQb9LL No.6447571 Reply
Ahah funny you, assuming Vince Russo knew or knows who Herb was

WWE Smackdown+Main Event+205: Zayn vs Styles//Samoan Street Fight

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!BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:55:39 EST 0CuYXf/X No.6447464
File: 1600466139544.jpg -(111182B / 108.58KB, 1024x576) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. WWE Smackdown+Main Event+205: Zayn vs Styles//Samoan Street Fight
>Watch WWE Smackdown with /wooo/ in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt at 8pm Eastern//1am London. Smackdown will be preceeded by a showing of WWE Main Event and followed by 205 Live. On tonight's show:
  • AJ Styles vs. Sami Zayn
  • Samoan Street Fight: WWE Universal Champion Roman Reigns and Jey Uso vs. King Baron Corbin and Sheamus
  • Alexa Bliss hosts "A Moment of Bliss" with guest Nikki Cross
  • Sasha Banks addresses the recent attack by SmackDown Women's Champion Bayley
>205 Live
  • Danny Burch vs Tony Nese
  • Daivari vs 3 Jobbers
>Samoan Street Fight
WWE has announced a major stipulation match that will take place this week on friday night SmackDown Live The current WWE Universal Champion Roman Reigns and his cousin Jey Uso both will take on Sheamus and Baron Corbin in a Tag team match this friday night on SmackDown. This match holds a bizarre stipulation kind a Samoan “Street Fight” which is just revealed by WWE. However, last week on SmackDown Roman Reigns and Jey Uso both worked as a tag team and defeated Sheamus and Baron Corbin in a flabbergasting match. Nevertheless, Will Reigns use the help of Uso to “Wreck Everyone and Leave” once again? Or will Sheamus and King Corbin be able to capitalize on any friction lingering between the cousins?

>Styles vs Zayn
Sami Zayn finally gets his first match since his return to WWE and in this match he will face the former Intercontinental Champion AJ Styles tonight on SmackDown Live. Sami Zayn, who still determine himself as Intercontinental Champion since he never lost that title on the very hand which he relinquished in June. However, it will be interesting to see who will win this battle tonight on SmackDown between AJ Styles and Sami Zayn and move inch close towards to Intercontinental Championship, and challenge Jeff Hardy for the Championship match at Clash of Champions. Will the matchup between Styles and Zayn help clear up the Intercontinental Title picture or leave it even more chaotic than before?

>Sasha Banks talks some shit
The golden shine has worn off Sasha Banks and Bayley’s friendship after the SmackDown Women’s Champion’s brutal attack two weeks ago. Now The Boss will respond to her former best friend’s stunning actions for the first time this Friday night on the blue brand. Sasha Banks, who was brutalised by Bayley two weeks ago on SmackDown following their loss to Nia Jax and Shayna Baszler in a Women’s Tag team champion match. Bayley finally broke her silence on Banks, and viciously attacked her which further left Banks helpless in the ring, and Banks was later confirmed with minor injuries which forced her to miss the last week’s segment of SmackDown. However, Sasha Banks recently surprised WWE fans after releasing a short clip of her in the upcoming season 2 of Star Wars – Mandalorian, as a Sabine Wren. It will interesting to see what Sasha Banks has to say ahead of Clash of Champions 2020. Will she challenge the SmackDown Women’s Champion and her former friend Bayley for the championship match or Will she attack on Bayley like she did to her. What will Banks have to say in response to Bayley’s vicious manoeuvres?

>A moment of Bliss
Nikki Cross shocked everyone last week on SmackDown when she won the Fatal-4-way competition to become #1contender for Bayley’s Championship at Clash of Champions. Cross defeated other three superstars which also included her say called best friend Alexa Bliss, who during the match anomaly produced ‘A Sister Abigail’ on Nikki Cross and left the match in middle. However, Alexa Bliss is all set to invite Nikki Cross on her chat show “A moment of Bliss” tonight on WWE Smackdown. However, it will be interesting to see what this chat show holds for both Nikki Cross and Alexa Bliss ahead of Clash of Champions 2020. Will Cross finally be able to reach her friend? Or will Bliss descend into an even deeper darkness?
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NJ the artist formerly known as (notAI) !qBlnbPq3cw - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 21:39:59 EST /lOACUFx No.6447495 Reply
Is it my imagination, or is Lacey Evans pulling a Joe Biden? She really stumbled as f through that promo.
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Kenny King - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:13:12 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6447500 Reply
Smackdown is such a nothing show its insane

Dragon Gate Masato Yoshino 20th Anniversary Homecoming thread

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!hc1Z1.0piQ - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:53:39 EST rh1YhD/u No.6447463
File: 1600466019653.jpg -(655777B / 640.41KB, 1454x2048) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Dragon Gate Masato Yoshino 20th Anniversary Homecoming thread
>Watch at 4am EDT / 9am BST in http://taima.tv/r/wooo2

>We will be live tomorrow, for the first time ever, from Higashiosaka to help Masato Yoshino celebrate his 20th anniversary in pro wrestling.

>1. Don Fujii, Ryo Saito, Shachihoko Boy vs Yosuke SantaMaria, Jason Lee and Punch Tominaga

>2. Genki Horiguchi vs Ben-K

>3. Susumu Yokosuka and Kagetora vs Kota Minoura and Dragon Dia

>4. Keisuke Okuda, KAI and U-T vs Diamante, Kazma Sakamoto and HYO

>5. Shuji Kondo and Yasushi Kanda vs YAMATO and Kzy

>6. Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, Ultimo Dragon and Dragon Kid vs Eita, BxB Hulk, Big R Shimizu and Kaito Ishida
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EITAmaniacs !hc1Z1.0piQ - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 04:02:46 EST rh1YhD/u No.6447522 Reply
Correction:
>Watch at 5am EDT / 10am BST

Outlandish Bullshit you've heard from wrestling.

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- Thu, 17 Sep 2020 00:34:53 EST yhwaeriU No.6446736
File: 1600317293824.jpg -(139177B / 135.92KB, 1280x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Outlandish Bullshit you've heard from wrestling.
What are so examples throughout the many years you've been watching wrestling where you have heard something said by someone whether it was a fan, another wrestler, another promoter, and thought to yourself that was one of the dumbest hot takes you've ever heard that relates to wrestling. To name a few off the top of my head

>Jim Cornette belittling Russo claiming how there was virtually no way that Bradshaw was a backstage politic during the Attitude Era when he was only 2 years into his career


This is proof that Cornette doesn't even need a reason to shit on Russo. Russo 100% deserves to be shat on for being an idiot when it comes to booking an episodic wrestling show but this also goes and proves that Cornette will just create reasons from nothing just to shit on Russo even more because that is all people famously know him for. If there was any increment of truth to Russo's claim that Bradshaw was picking on other guise in the Undercard with him it wouldn't have been traditionally known in the timeline of events where people knew when Bradshaw was the most extreme with his backstage bullshit like how he beat the shit out of Stevie Richards to the point where Stevie literally quit the company over it. Half the reason why Stevie went to Impact in 09 was because JBL made working on Smackdown an unsafe working environment and half a dozen different Cruiserweights can vouch for Richards that Bradshaw has always been an IRL piece of garbage

Fuck off Cornette you fucking carny you ignore shit like this because you spent too much time hanging out with people like Dr D where behavior like this was normal to you.
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Shu Shibutani - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:36:43 EST aPucw166 No.6447510 Reply
>>6446814

>getting worked this hard over fantasy booking Cornette put together in one weekend

The Brain

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!/R33EULsds - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:56:29 EST 8S7lqycS No.6446877
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Three years ago today we lost one of the greatest ever to be in the business. Post your favorite Heenan stories, clips, whatever.
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GAME SHOW TUBE 9/18

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!lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:37:19 EST HWYsl/vq No.6447428
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>Watch Game Show Tube starting at 10:30pm EDT / 3:30am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo

It's another edition of Game Show Tube following 205 Live. Here's this week's preview:

>Cannonball episode 8: Tiny Weenie Mankini - 10:30pm EDT / 3:30am BST

Hosted by The Miz, Cannonball athletes compete for $10,000 in the wildest and wettest challenges ever created.

>Game On! A Comedy Crossver Event episode 3: The Expanding Universe of Ashley Garcia: Pasadena 2020 - 11:15pm EDT / 4:15am BST

Tensions mount as Tío Victor fights to reclaim his burrito recipe from a cross-town rival. Can a series of Coffee House Games put an end to the drama?

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CMLL SUPER VIERNES 9/18 IPPV THREAD

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!lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:10:24 EST HWYsl/vq No.6447418
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>Watch CMLL Super Viernes at 9:30pm EDT / 2:30am BST in /wooo/tube 3 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo3

It’s the final show before CMLL’s 87th Aniversario next week. Who will go into CMLL’s biggest show of the year with momentum on their side? Here’s this week’s lineup:

1) Diamond vs Súper Astro Jr.
2) La Jarochita & Lluvia vs Amapola & Reyna Isis
3) Espíritu Negro & Rey Cometa vs Hechicero & Mephisto
4) El Bandido, Místico, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero

LU TUBE 9/18 - DIALING UP DOOM

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!lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:30:43 EST HWYsl/vq No.6447398
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>Watch LU Tube at 4pm EDT / 9pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo\

It's another edition of Lucha Underground Tube, here's this week's preview:

>S03E05 - The Prince and The Monster

Matanza gets another opponent; Ivelisse finds a new love; Killshot receives some news; The Rabbit Tribe is introduced.

>S03E06 - The Open Road To Revenge

Rey Mysterio vs Chavo Guerrero; Sexy Star vs Jack Evans; Son of Havoc and Mascarita Sagrada return with ravenous appetites for revenge.

>S03E07 - Payback Time

Prince Puma versus Mil Muertes; Johnny Mundo seeks a match with Sexy Star; Dial of Doom picks another opponent for Matanza.

>S03E08 - Gift of the Gods

City Councilman Delgado arrives and gives Dario a gift; Sexy Star defends her title; Rey Mysterio asks Dario for a favor.

Rumble in your Bumble: 7, Who Will Make it to Heaven?

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- Thu, 17 Sep 2020 07:16:17 EST JvbZ8j8l No.6446762
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We had a thoughtful skeleton man invade ladies night only to see his hopes and dreams of winning burn to a crisp. Maria ended up winning by being a stone cold killer in the beginning and a klutz after that.

I am still open to weapons and actions suggestions, I like having variety so things don't get stale.

>Nominations - 7:00pm EST
>BloodBath - 8:00pm EST

UNTIL THEN SHOW ME THAT HYPE!
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Shelton Benjamin - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:52:50 EST lLyPkEhR No.6447343 Reply
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>>6447324
Well done. Cheers

This bumble was a hilarious read. I only wish I had been here for it in real time. I straight up cackled at Jay whites deception.
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Hamchilla - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:58:51 EST JvbZ8j8l No.6447396 Reply
>>6447272
>>6447287
Sadly it is not possible. When I first did the testing I tried to see what the limit was. Around 100 entrants and it would never stop. Great idea but it just won't happen.

THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 11TH SEPTEMBER '20

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- Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:01:26 EST EU78fE6b No.6445225
File: 1599861686287.png -(362053B / 353.57KB, 728x674) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 11TH SEPTEMBER '20
The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
Dave Meltzer's star ratings are now posted in their own thread, so look for it.
Use this thread to post news as it comes through. Do not use the old thread for anything new, please move discussion to here instead.

Still looking for more new mask edits of Meltzer for the threads.

> AEW’s All Out show on 9/5 at Daily’s Place in Jacksonville, was a show that ended up with a lot of attention, which largely overshadowed the quality of the matches. While the response was more positive than negative, it was still by far the most negatively received major AEW show to date, even with the key matches all delivering at a good-to-great standard. The biggest item concerned Matt Hardy, a few weeks shy of 46 and with wear and tear of about three decades inside a pro wrestling ring. Hardy was having a Broken match with Sammy Guevara, basically a Last Man Standing match, with his career on the line if he lost.

> The match started with Hardy screaming for Guevara to come out while next to the football field at the adjacent TIAA Stadium. Guevara came out driving a cart, the same cart where Guevara was twice chased down in segments earlier this year. Guevara chased Hardy with the cart and Hardy ran, and this wasn’t as smooth as with Guevara, who can run really fast while Hardy is older and banged up and couldn’t run nearly as fast or as long. But Hardy evaded the cart and Guevara crashed it. After a spot where Hardy gave Guevara a DDT on the top of his head on one of the picnic tables in the area that connects the stadium and Daily’s Place, they both brawled on a scissors lift.

> They were about seven feet above the ground and fighting back and forth for a few seconds. Guevara was to tackle Hardy and both would fly off the platform and go through two tables set up on the floor. It wasn’t even the climax of the match, but simply the first of probably a few big spots they were planning as they were only 1:44 into the match when it happened. Guevara tackled Hardy and when they came flying off, it looked bad because Hardy was flying too far. It was a split second, both men’s bodies crashed through the table the farthest from the platform, missing the closest table for the most part. The table did somewhat break the fall but the shoulders and back of Hardy’s head hit the concrete hard. He was clearly rocked badly, and couldn’t get up for 44 seconds.

> Guevara stalled ref Aubrey Edwards for a few seconds and then she slowly administered a ten count which would end the match, with the risk that at that point if Hardy couldn’t get up, in theory he would have to retire. While they would have worked a storyline around it, AEW very clearly doesn’t want to be the wrestling company who does stipulations and then ignores them, as noted by Cody still claiming he will never challenge for the AEW title in a stipulation that everyone figured would be forgotten about.

> Hardy did get up before the ten count, but fell back down. Guevara tried to work with him but he was clearly out of it and unsteady. He got up and threw some punches but stumbled and fell again, and Edwards signaled for an “X” signifying there was a real injury. Dr. Michael Sampson came out and a few seconds later the bell was called for, by owner Tony Khan.

> What happened next was the controversy. Hardy was up and walking with Sampson after it was called off. The two were talking. Hardy, talking in his broken character was screaming for Sammy and he was talking. He wasn’t stumbling around or anything at this point. Then they cut to the announcers who explained why the match had to be stopped. The time the announcers were talking and they showed the announcers and a crowd shot was 64 seconds.

> At that point they showed Matt walking and he was walking fine. The bell rang and they restarted the match. They did a little bit of brawling but went right to the planned finish. They climbed the lighting grid. Matt seemed unsteady climbing. At one point Guevara seemed to grab him to steady him. But Matt climbed and knocked Guevara off the grid into a crash pad. Guevara sold it like his left shoulder was separated or dislocated and he didn’t get up at the ten count to end the match as planned.

> During the show on a few occasions the announcers sa…
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Pat Patterson - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:55:32 EST Ybchf0OF No.6447372 Reply
>>6447370

Oh fuck, she might be the women with the vignettes on Smackdown.
Good thinking Vince, have Morrison be on the same show with his emasculating ex.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:08:28 EST 0CuYXf/X No.6447379 Reply
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>Vince bringing back Melina to pair back up with Morrison even though Morrison effectively divorced her and then married Taya, finally being with someone who loves and supports him instead of undermining and messing around on him

Bringing back Morrison just to put him back with Miz was one thing, but they're actually going to revert him alllll the way back to 2006?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:12:36 EST HWYsl/vq No.6447383 Reply
>>6447370
That's gonna be weird if she ends up on SmackDown but good for her I guess. She was decent in NWA in a managerial role so we'll see what WWE does with her.

Let's talk about this

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- Fri, 18 Sep 2020 01:18:27 EST M5lp6GfG No.6447291
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From the LU Wikipedia page:

>After season 4 aired, van Wagenen stated in November 2018 that he was unsure if season 5 would happen, citing budget concerns. He stated "Season 5, if we do it, will be a major reboot. Cast-wise, on a lot of levels we'll be looking to reboot season 5."

Let's do that. Who would you like to show up in a rebooted Lucha Underground? Who would be the top heel? Would the Cueto family arc be continued? Give your take, /wooo/.
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Lash LeRoux - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:03:39 EST oWLdzxNc No.6447346 Reply
i always kinda figured it was gonna be over by season 5 or 6 like story wise the plan seemed to be essentially the big boss guy (wade barrett) wants to gain the power of the gods along with antonio cueto the god who has posessed jake strong via the gauntlet and vampiros master. so there would most likely have been some sorta big clash and i assume aerostar would have won the belt and used his space magic to fix everything or something and that would be the end of that. or maybe a newly revived good mil muertes free from catrinas control.
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Pat Patterson - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:51:23 EST Ybchf0OF No.6447353 Reply
Imagine if LU & Blackcraft did a crossover event, granted LU was still on and No Apologies didn't kill Blackcraft.
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Teddy Hart in full drug dealer gimmick

Shiozaki vs Fujita NOAH

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!!4vMEXnV5 - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 17:31:08 EST M1ahJWky No.6446896
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Now that the dust has settled

what did /wooo/ think about this match?
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Johnny C. - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:29:22 EST TOZSEHoC No.6447355 Reply
Does anyone know of the backstory for this?
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Aero Star - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:54:27 EST r1FzMSXm No.6447359 Reply
Every minute of that stare down flipped my opinion on it.
One minute it's based, the next it's going on too long, then it's based again etc.
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Trent Barreta - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:40:27 EST hcUFcp+9 No.6447369 Reply
Watching it live was like an out of body experience. A 10/10 match that I’ll absolutely never watch from start to finish ever again

Indie Tube | NXT UK | CWFH | OVW TV

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!a8BiNwIDng - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:08:22 EST fCG7gS6I No.6446840
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>Watch Indie Tube, NXT UK, Championship Wrestling From Hollywood and OVW TV today starting at 4pm EDT / 9pm BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo


Indie Tube - 4pm EDT / 9pm BST
TWE Saturday Night August 22, 2020
>Card:
• TWE Tag Team Championship Match: The Youngbloodz vs Jayke Murphy and Lutha X
• Scenic City Futures Showcase Tournament Qualifier: Adam Priest vs Erron Wade
• Carson Dilbeck vs Bailey Blake
• "Coach" Kody Manhorn vs Jaden Newman
• Patrick Heeter vs Derek Neal
• Rob Killjoy vs Graham Bell


ACTION - Last Call September 4th, 2020
>Card:
• Nolan Edward vs Kevin Ryan
• BK Westbrook vs Bobby Flaco
• Donnie Janela vs Jaden Newman
• Graham Bell vs Manders
• Arik Royal vs Suge D
• Action Championship Match: AC Mack vs Brett Ison


NXT UK - 8pm EDT / 1am BST
NXT UK’s relaunch is finally here! The fastest-growing brand in WWE history is back Thursday with all-new in-ring action, filmed at the state-of-the-art BT Sport studios in London. Be sure to tune in to see NXT UK Tag Team Champions Gallus go head-to-head with Amir Jordan & Kenny Williams.
What will be in store before Kay Lee Ray defends the NXT UK Women’s Championship against former friend Piper Niven on Sept. 24?
Plus, what else can the NXT UK Universe expect with NXT United Kingdom Champion WALTER’s showdown with Ilja Dragunov looming, as well as the NXT UK Heritage Cup Tournament set to kick off soon?

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Daffney - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:33:53 EST yhwaeriU No.6447279 Reply
>>6447269

The best thing about that taping was in the middle of Noam Dar's promo (a very shit one at that) Draganov just yeets his body over the top rope and I spent a good minute laughing at that

I dunno what the fuck is the appeal to Draganov. Its so clear this man's ceiling is going to be NXT UK. He's never gonna be like Severn, Bate, and Dunne who were all weirdly compelling enough to leave their containment brand to a different slightly less worse containment brand because its better to at least touch the ceiling to your glass prison then it is to stare at it so far away.
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Hugo Savinovich - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 00:38:59 EST JyJS6uUQ No.6447284 Reply
>>6447279
If you have seen Dragunov's work in wXw, you would understand just how good he is. He had a killer match with Shingo Takagi at PWG BOLA 2018 too. But yeah, NXT UK is the furthest he's gonna go in WWE and would be better served going to Japan or somewhere else.
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Daffney - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:54:50 EST yhwaeriU No.6447307 Reply
>>6447284

His promos are all hot garbage. Its growly and foreign. He's everything Vince hates and will never push at a serious level. Walter is perfect because he has the body and the presence of a man who would have worked a territory from the 1970's to late 1980's as a foil for Hulk Hogan or Macho Man.

DAVE MELTZER'S STAR RATINGS THREAD

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- Wed, 09 Sep 2020 11:49:49 EST EU78fE6b No.6443946
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Seemingly they didn't get posted last week (as of this post), or the week before. Let's do something about that. Remember, ALL OUT star ratings in a few days. Star Ratings from other reviewers are allowed.

WWE SUMMERSLAM 2020 STAR RATINGS:
> Apollo Crews pinned MVP in 6:36. **1/4
> Bayley pinned Asuka in 11:34 to keep the Smackdown women's title. ***1/4
> Street Profits (Angelo Dawkins & Montez Ford) retained the Raw tag titles over Angel Garza & Andrade in 7:49. **
> Mandy Rose beat Sonya Deville in a no DQ loser leaves town match in 10:01. **3/4
> Seth Rollins pinned Dominik Mysterio in a street fight in 22:32. ***3/4
> Asuka pinned Sasha Banks in 11:30 to win the Raw women's title. ***3/4
> Drew McIntyre pinned Randy Orton in 20:37 to retain the WWE title. ****1/4
> The Fiend Bray Wyatt beat Braun Strowman in a falls count anywhere match to win the Universal title in 11:57. *

WWE NXT TAKEOVER XXX STAR RATINGS:
> Tyler Breeze & Fandango beat Joaquin Wilde & Raul Mendoza and Oney Lorcan & Danny Burch in 6:52. ***
> Finn Balor pinned Timothy Thatcher in 13:31. ****
> Damien Priest won the North American title in a five-way ladder match over Cameron Grimes, Bronson Reed, Johnny Gargano and Velveteen Dream in 21:24. ****1/2
> Adam Cole pinned Pat McAfee in 16:11. ***3/4
> Io Shirai retained the women’s title over Dakota Kai in 17:14. ***3/4
> Karrion Kross beat Keith Lee to win the NXT title in 21:52. **

NJPW ROAD TO SUMMER STRUGGLE 2020 STAR RATINGS:
> Hirooki Goto & Tomohiro Ishii & Yoshi-Hashi beat Yuji Nagata & Yota Tsuji & Yuya Uemura in 10:38. ***1/4
> Hiroshi Tanahashi & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Kota Ibushi & Master Wato beat Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi & Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Douki in 10:05. ***1/4
> Desperado beat Satoshi Kojima via DQ in 14:13 to advance to the King of Pro Wrestling tournament finals. **
> Toru Yano pinned Bushi in 4:44 to advance to the KOPW finals. **
> Sanada beat Sho to advance to the KOPW finals in 19:37. ****
> Kazuchika Okada won a handicap match over Yujiro Takahashi & Gedo & Jado in 15:26. *3/4

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Johnny Rodz - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:45:50 EST +9y7eUOE No.6446474 Reply
>>6446468
I always chuckle when I see Dave use his own ratings as a reason for why a wrestler should be objectively seen as good or when he discusses the merits of wrestlers with points like "well, can you name the last time he/she had a match that was above (a certain amount of) stars?", no doubt referring to his own opinions.
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Devon - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 01:32:07 EST 2vw2UB/d No.6447293 Reply
>>6446377
it isnt about the in ring WORKRATE it's about the story, atmosphere and the star power. the crowd was CRAZY for that match.
almost like that what made pro wrestling popular in the first fuckin place you dumb-ass
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