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AEW and NJPW working together might be possible after all...

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- Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:35:04 EST Z0nYJQZ9 No.6332935
File: 1575081304121.gif -(2395774B / 2.28MB, 500x277) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. AEW and NJPW working together might be possible after all...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/more-sports/njpw-harold-meij-qa-kenny-omega-relationship-with-all-elite-wrestling-ring-of-honor-wrestle-kingdom-main-event/news-story/542c70d6fc694e872e6e368b44a36dc9

>“We’re very open to working with anyone, we don’t exclude anyone. But it does take time to create that trust between companies.

>"And right now AEW is still in the exploratory phase; they’re trying to establish themselves as a brand, what is that brand? They’re about one year in, and we’re starting to see what their brand is all about. Then we’ll have to see if that brand fits our brand of course.

>"At this stage, they still have different styles than we do, and that’s the only thing. We’re looking at what their brand positioning is and whether it complements ours.”

>On whether the exits of AEW stars and executives such as The Young Bucks, Kenny Omega and Cody have impacted the relationship between the company and NJPW:

>"No. It’s a business, at the end of the day.

>"The wrestlers we hire, we work with on a contractual basis for a certain period of time. Obviously we would’ve loved to have kept having them here but I can understand that if there’s in their minds a bigger and better opportunity, well then that’s just a natural way for competition to move forward. It’s a natural thing.

>"I do also believe the likes of AEW is good for the industry, because it puts a lot of new money into the industry, and a lot of people might be getting more interested in pro wrestling - people who might not have been interested if AEW hadn’t been established. So it can only be good for the industry.”
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Jonathan Barber - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 22:18:01 EST RIMHP1wE No.6333617 Reply
>>6333612
Maybe. If so he's a hell of an actor. Even if it's a work I want Kenny to be happy again.
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El Valiente - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 03:21:05 EST gF+lQNyj No.6333666 Reply
>>6333465
Dumbasses getting piled on for making an embarrassingly stupid post is a /wooo/ tradition. Lay off the crack before you post here.

AJPW Real World Tag League Days 13, 14, 15 THREAD

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- Fri, 29 Nov 2019 15:18:59 EST 5B632HJQ No.6332813
File: 1575058739680.jpg -(358908B / 350.50KB, 1200x1034) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. AJPW Real World Tag League Days 13, 14, 15 THREAD
>Watch Day 13 at 3am EST / 8am GMT over in http://taima.tv/r/wooo (Saturday's show)
>Watch Day 14 at 12am EST / 5pm GMT over in http://taima.tv/r/wooo (Sunday's show) (will start in http://taima.tv/r/wooo3 if AAA overruns)
>Watch Day 15 at 4:30am EST / 9:30am GMT over in http://taima.tv/r/wooo (Monday's show)

The World’s Strongest Tag Determination League (mistranslated in English by Baba as Real World Tag League, which is the name that has endearingly stuck among English speakers) is one of the company’s biggest tours of the year and one of the best times for fans of the promotion. AJPW takes pride in the quality of their tag division and tournament, which makes it one of the stand-out traits of the company and is further bolstered when featuring popular outsiders from the company’s partner promotions. Winners of the Tag League will challenge for the titles on one of the early January Korakuen Hall shows. If the Champions win, they will fight one of the teams they lost to in the League or a new team.

Current Standings:

>Doering & Akiyama 8 pts
>Violent Giants (Suwama & Shuji Ishikawa) 8 pts
>The End (Odinson & Parrow) 8 pts
>Lee & Nomura 6 pts
>Yoshida & Valleta 6 pts
>Aoyagi / Miyahara 4 pts
>TAJIRI & KAI 4 pts
>Zeus & Sai 4 pts
>Sekimoto & Bodyguard 2 pts
>One World (Yoshitatsu & Joel Redman) 2 pts

Match Card :

Saturday (Day 13) :

>Hokuto Omori vs Atsuki Aoyagi
>UTAMARO & Atsushi Maruyama vs Takao Omori & Black Menso~Re
>Evolution (Shuji Ishikawa, Suwama, Hikaru Sato & Yusuke Okada) vs Jake Lee, Naoya Nomura, Koji Iwamoto & Dan Tamura
>Joe Doering, Jun Akiyama & TAJIRI vs The End(Parrow & Odinson) & Yoshitatsu
>KAI vs Joel Redman
>Nextream (Kento Miyahara & Yuma Aoyagi) vs Takashi Yoshida (Dragon Gate) & Gianni Valleta
>Daisuke Sekimoto (BJW) & The Bodyguard vs Zeus & Ryouji Sai
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Taima_fan - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 01:18:12 EST llpeYB0R No.6333292 Reply
On a somewhat related topic (involving bjw folks) will the DDT shuffle tournament be streamed this year on Taima??

At the /wooo/vies: Stuber

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- Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:45:54 EST VfUs3h25 No.6333451
File: 1575229554472.jpg -(52509B / 51.28KB, 220x330) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. At the /wooo/vies: Stuber
>Watch Stuber at 9pm EST / 2am GMT in /wooo/tube http://taima.tv/r/wooo

Tonight we are going to watch Stuber, on of Big Dave's latest movies this year. should be a fun time.


>When a mild-mannered driver picks up a passenger who turns out to be a cop hot on the trail of a killer, he's thrust into a harrowing ordeal that takes ridesharing to a whole new level!
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Chyna - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 21:16:11 EST MvXqIYwr No.6333609 Reply
says a lot that WWE has a show right now and /wooo/ isn't even streaming it

though I just found out about it as well

Smackdown/Main Event|205/CWH: Vince is still busy rewriting the show Edition

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!BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:53:37 EST jFe7D+GS No.6332840
File: 1575064417199.jpg -(94998B / 92.77KB, 700x399) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Smackdown/Main Event|205/CWH: Vince is still busy rewriting the show Edition
>Watch WWE Smackdown with /wooo/ in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt at 8pm Eastern//1am London, followed by 205 live at 10pm Eastern 3am London and Championship Wrestling from Hollywood at 11pm Eastern//4am London. WWE Main Event will air before Smackdown, starting at 7:40pm Eastern//11:40pm London, and featuring * Natalya vs Sarah Logan and No Way Jose vs Eric Young.

>Smackdown
WWE.com's preview for Smackdown only lists 1 (one) point, that Bray Wyatt will reveal a new member of his Firefly Funhouse. 0 (zero) matches announced.
>205 Live
Hot off the heels of last's week episode being cancelled, there is currently NO preview for 205 live this week, if it indeed even airs.

Smackdown preview:
The current Universal Champion will be in the spotlight as he is confirmed to appear in a segment. So, there must be a clarification if the existing feud over the title will continue or not. Also, one of the major rivalries of this time will continue until WWE TLC as King Corbin will be looking forward to seeking retribution against Roman Reigns.

Meanwhile, in the women’s title picture, the speculation is that the existing rivalry between the champion and challenger, Nikki Cross won’t be coming to an end anytime soon. So there should be another title match announcement for TLC without a delay when SmackDown airs from the Legacy Arena at the BJCC, Birmingham, Alabama.

The Fiend Bray Wyatt successfully retained his Universal Championship against Daniel Bryan at Survivor Series this past Sunday Night. He overcame the technical resistance put up by the veteran superstar with his unimaginable physical strength. Now he is being advertised to reveal a 'new face’ on a special edition of Firefly Funhouse, “The Fiend” Bray Wyatt was pushed both physically and mentally in a Survivor Series showdown with Daniel Bryan. Perhaps Friday Night SmackDown may provide a glimpse into where the Universal Champion’s mind is now at.

>"Wyatt will reveal a new face in “Firefly Fun House” this Friday.
Will someone or something be joining the crew of Huskus the Pig Boy, Abby the Witch, Mercy the Buzzard and Rambling Rabbit? Will they have a new friend? Or does Wyatt have something much bigger and sinister in store?” There is no update available on what this 'new face’ could turn out to be. But apparently, we should get a hint of what could be the next obstacle if any for the champion. Daniel Bryan is being rumoured to continue his quest to pick up the blue-belt. So, he might decide to interfere in the match. This, in turn, would set up a rematch between them with a stipulation added to it. If Bryan is moved from the title picture then someone like Braun Strowman could come back to the main-event scene. Bryan, on the other hand, will enter the mid-card title picture as he still has some hard feelings over comments made by Nakamura’s mouthpiece, Sami Zayn. So, perhaps WWE could arrange an IC title match between them at TLC.

Roman Reigns turned out to be the sole survivor for Team SmackDown at the bygone PPV’s traditional tag team elimination match in the men’s division. It looked like a beginning of a big push for the Wrestlemania season. But first, Reigns has to get rid of Corbin. The King of the Ring winner digested some of the pendant moves from Reigns before he got eliminated. So, he will come for retribution, for sure.

Right now, reports say that the creative team may book Reigns and Corbin in a Dog Collar Match at WWE TLC. But the FOX officials are reportedly unhappy with this angle. So there could be some changes to the stipulation of the match which should be disclosed tonight on SmackDown.

Bayley suffered a pinfall loss at the hands of Shayna Baszler at Survivor Series and that loss also let down the SmackDown brand. Now, she’ll have to bring back the mean heel persona to extend her championship reign. Nikki Cross still has a pinfall advantage over her in the recent past which hints that the next opponent for the champion is pretty much decided. So these two are most likely to be booked in a rematch in TLC, when tonight's SmackDown airs.
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wrestling dream thread

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- Sun, 01 Dec 2019 04:32:02 EST pYBmLep0 No.6333307
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i just dreamed bobby lashly and matt riddle had this match dressed in fancy suits and top hats and everyone in the crowd was hoping they'd be able to keep their hats on the entire match and like every time someone bumped and his hat stayed on there was a loud cheer

post your wrestling related dreams
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Tony Garea - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 13:42:00 EST LI44JGTB No.6333432 Reply
>>6333427
>raw
Are you sure it wasn't a nightmare where you were trapped in WWECW
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Bertha Faye - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 13:57:02 EST HwGKvo67 No.6333434 Reply
>>6333386
Did you say thanks to Luchasaurus for helping you not embarrass yourself? Feels like he'd be cool about it.
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MEN's Teioh - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:18:11 EST 0AcdH2Qk No.6333441 Reply
One time I had a dream that I was back in middle school and a kid I knew then suddenly died, and there was a funeral and everything, it was actually kind of sad, but then there was some house party afterward and Edge and Christian were there, and I hung out with them and we broke a bunch of furniture. The house was on my childhood property but resembled some amalgamation of various houses I had been in before.

Britwres Tube for Dec 1st

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!F612/rL8Ks - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:08:44 EST 8onUjywP No.6333438
File: 1575227324515.jpg -(212645B / 207.66KB, 679x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Britwres Tube for Dec 1st
>Watch Britwres Tube today at 3pm EST / 8pm GMT in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo

Today for Britwres Tube we're going to watch ICW's Gonzo #1 from The Asylum in Glasgow

>Card:
• Jordan Devlin vs. Kieran Kelly
• Darren Vice, Dean Ford & Ian Skinner vs. Power Forward (???, ??? & ???)
ICW Women's Title #1 Contendership Match: Aivil vs. Isla Dawn
• Ravie Davie vs. Stevie Boy
• Kez Evans vs. Michael May
• Kenny Williams vs. Scotty Davis
• Jason Reed vs. The Sam Barbour Experience
• Lewis Girvan vs. Stevie James
ICW Zero-G Title Match: Liam Thomson (c) vs. Leyton Buzzard

Dragon Gate: The Gate of Evolution 2019 in Hokkaido Triple Header!

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- Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:43:05 EST sK8BwNDg No.6332531
File: 1574973785937.jpg -(212540B / 207.56KB, 678x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Dragon Gate: The Gate of Evolution 2019 in Hokkaido Triple Header!
>Watch Dragon Gate: The Gate of Evolution 2019 in Hokkaido Night 1 on Friday at 4:00 AM EST/9:00 AM GMT in http://taima.tv/r/wooo3
>Watch Dragon Gate: The Gate of Evolution 2019 in Hokkaido Night 2 on Saturday at 4:00 AM/9:00 AM GMT in http://taima.tv/r/wooo3
>Watch Dragon Gate: The Gate of Evolution 2019 in Hokkaido Night 3 on Saturday night at 11:00 PM/4:00 AM GMT in http://taima.tv/r/wooo2 (will start in http://taima.tv/r/wooo4 if CZW overruns)

The Gate of Evolution tour reaches its finale as Dragon Gate returns to the Hokkaido Sapporo Susukino Mars Gym for the annual Triple Shot weekend of shows. After raising the ire of MaxiMuM at Kobe Sambo Hall, being challenged by YAMATO & BxB Hulk for the Open The Twin Gate Championship at Final Gate & the Ultimo Dragon vs. Eita battle set for Korakuen Hall, R.E.D will take on MaxiMuM, the Toryumon Army & Tribe Vanguard across all 3 nights in 6-man tag team action!

MATCH CARD

Night 1
5. MaxiMuM (Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi & Dragon Kid) vs. R・E・D (Eita, Big R Shimizu & H・Y・O)
4. MaxiMuM (Kaito Ishida & Jason Lee) vs. Natural Vibes (Kzy & Susumu Yokosuka)
3. Dojo Mochizuki (Masaaki Mochizuki, Keisuke Okuda) & Don Fujii vs. Ben-K, Shun Skywalker & Ho Ho Lun
2. Yosuke♡Santa Maria vs. Diamante
  1. Toryumon Army (Ryo Saito & Yasushi Kanda) vs. Tribe Vanguard (YAMATO & BxB Hulk)

Night 2
6. Toryumon Army (Ultimo Dragon, Ryo Saito & Yasushi Kanda) vs. R・E・D (Eita, Diamante & H・Y・O)
5. Tribe Vanguard (BxB Hulk, Yosuke♡Santa Maria) vs. MaxiMuM (Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino)
4. MaxiMuM (Dragon Kid & Kaito Ishida) vs. Dojo Mochizuki (Masaaki Mochizuki & Kota Minoura)
3. Shun Skywalker vs. Big R Shimizu
2. Ben-K vs. Jason Lee
  1. Natural Vibes (Kzy, Susumu Yokosuka) & Don Fujii vs. YAMATO, Keisuke Okuda & Ho Ho Lun

Night 3
6. Tribe Vanguard (YAMATO, BxB Hulk & Yosuke♡Santa Maria) vs. R・E・D (Eita, Big R Shimizu & Diamante)
5. Ben-K & Shun Skywalker vs. Natural Vibes (Kzy & Susumu Yokosuka)
4. Toryumon Army (Ultimo Dragon, Ryo Saito & Yasushi Kanda) vs. MaxiMuM (Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi & Jason Lee)
3. Dragon Kid vs. H・Y・O
2. Kaito Ishida vs. Kota Minoura
  1. Dojo Mochizuki (Masaaki Mochizuki & Keisuke Okuda) vs. Don Fujii & Ho Ho Lun
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Kobald - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:07:59 EST MvXqIYwr No.6333250 Reply
>>6333150
So basically it means its gonna be a red herring with Yoshino and it turns out Doi makes a "shocking" betrayal
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Evan Bourne - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:46:31 EST sK8BwNDg No.6333258 Reply
>>6333250
Doi's gonna be too busy eating a pin from Ben-K at Fukuoka to betray anyone
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Anthony Nese - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 08:15:37 EST 3zLVgYmT No.6333344 Reply
>>6333250
Heed my words, it's going to be Dragon Kid, who'll then finally become Dragon Man.

Reminder, fuck ROHggers

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- Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:02:04 EST RMwFavgm No.6333217
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Dory Funk Jr. - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:51:31 EST gF+lQNyj No.6333262 Reply
OP are you OK?

>>6333245
Can I take a third option and guess "unfortunate impressionable adult"?

AAA TV (SAT) 11/30/2019 Auditorio Benito Juárez, Veracruz, Veracruz LIVE!

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- Sat, 30 Nov 2019 14:28:49 EST GXHNtkkw No.6333118
File: 1575142129742.jpg -(166584B / 162.68KB, 720x1106) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. AAA TV (SAT) 11/30/2019 Auditorio Benito Juárez, Veracruz, Veracruz LIVE!
>9pm EST / 2am GMT in http://taima.tv/r/wooo - Conquista Total Gira 2019: AAA Worldwide in Veracruz in Spanish
>9pm EST / 2am GMT in http://taima.tv/r/woooalt - Conquista Total Gira 2019: AAA Worldwide in Veracruz in English

a card that may resemble tonight's show

1) Big Mami, Dinastía, Mr. Iguana vs Australian Suicide, Lady Maravilla, Vanilla
2) Bengala, Draztick Boy, Eclipse vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana
3) ?, Faby Apache, Niño Hamburguesa vs Abismo Negro Jr., Keyra, Villano III Jr.
4) Aerostar, Drago, Máximo vs Monsther Clown, Súper Crazy, Súper Fly
5) Hijo Del Vikingo, Myzteziz Jr., Octagón Jr. vs La Hiedra, Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr.
6) Pagano, Psycho Clown, Puma King vs Averno, Chessman, Taurus

It's not the much cooler looking show tomorrow with Rush that isn't streaming, but it might be fun enough.

CZW NIGHT OF INFAMY 2019 & F1RST WRESTLING: LIVE! IPPV THREAD

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!lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:55:03 EST UveV14Hw No.6333110
File: 1575140103655.jpg -(152058B / 148.49KB, 720x540) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. CZW NIGHT OF INFAMY 2019 & F1RST WRESTLING: LIVE! IPPV THREAD
>Watch CZW Night of Infamy at 8pm EST / 1am GMT in /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2 and F1RST Wrestling: Live! at 9pm EST / 2am GMT in /wooo/tube 3 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo3

Combat Zone Wrestling makes its IPPV debut on Fite with its annual November show Night of Infamy, the final show before CZW’s biggest show of the year Cage of Death takes place in two weeks. In the main event, the Squared Circle of Sacrifice returns as Jimmy Lloyd and Kasey Catal enter but only one will survive. Plus Minneapolis' F1RST Wrestling returns to Fite with LOVE as AEW's Orange Cassidy faces Arik Cannon in the main event. Here’s the lineups for the shows:

>CZW Night of Infamy - 8pm EST / 1am GMT

*Squared Circle of Sacrifice Match: Jimmy Lloyd vs. Kasey Catal
*CZW World Heavyweight Championship Match: Joe Gacy © vs. AR Fox
*CZW Wired Championship Match: Jordan Oliver © vs. Jimmy Rave
*Ultraviolent Rules Match: Matt Tremont vs. Anthony Gangone
*Tag Team Match: Anthony Greene & Ava Everett vs. Alex Reynolds & Mark Sterling
*Deathmatch Rules Match: Conor Claxton vs. Chondo
*Six Man Tag Team Match: YDNB (Charlie Tiger, Ellis Taylor, & Griffin McCoy) vs. The Skulk (Adrian Alanis, Leon Ruff, & Liam Grey)
*Tag Team Match: Bear Country (Bear Beefcake & Bear Bronson) vs. Above The Rest (Gabriel Skye & Tristen Thai)
*Singles Match: KC Navarro vs. DK Meadows

>F1RST Wrestling: Live! - 9pm EST / 2am GMT

*Singles Match: Orange Cassidy vs. Arik Cannon
*Singles Match: Kimber Lee vs. Priscilla Kelly
*Tag Team Match: Ophidian & Serpentico vs. Flip Bros (Air Wolf & Angel Dorado)
*Singles Match: Joey Ryan vs. Devon Monroe
*Singles Match: Royce Isaacs vs. JDX
*Plus Tommy Dreamer, Dak Draper, Darin Corbin, and more!
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Charlie Haas - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 17:47:42 EST m+dPSDIk No.6333183 Reply
Joe Gacy fucking szzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sugar Sato - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:09:48 EST RfWCQR8I No.6333204 Reply
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>>6333163
>dumpy venue
>show features priscilla kelly and joey ryan
seems about right

Happy Thanksgiving wooo

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!QqL8nX9URE - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:47:10 EST wfc4Nl90 No.6332505
File: 1574966830206.gif -(134300B / 131.15KB, 256x144) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Happy Thanksgiving wooo
Have you had peas b'fo?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:40:05 EST UveV14Hw No.6333132 Reply
I miss Eli Drake's Gravy Train Turkey Trot

GCW CHOPPER CITY IN THE GHETTO IPPV THREAD

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!F612/rL8Ks - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:54:50 EST 8onUjywP No.6332150
File: 1574898890098.jpg -(171198B / 167.19KB, 800x1280) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. GCW CHOPPER CITY IN THE GHETTO IPPV THREAD
>Watch GCW Chopper City in the Ghetto at 8pm EST / 1am GMT in /wooo/tube 3 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo3

Want something more explosive than dynamite and featuring the next generation? GCW returns to the Voltage Lounge in Philadelphia tonight with Chopper City in the Ghetto. In the main event, the saga revolving around GCW World Champion Nick Gage and his title belt continues. After Rickey Shane Page stole the title belt from Gage a few months ago, he’s been ducking Gage around the world. Tonight, Atticus Cogar – a disciple of RSP – will go one on one with Gage to try and bring the title officially to RSP’s camp. It’s an interesting situation as the last time we saw Cogar in Game Changer Wrestling – for his debut – he was kidnapped by Gage for being affiliated with RSP. Cogar is a tough nut to crack, but facing an angry Nick Gage may be a bit more than he can chew. Here’s the lineup for the show:

GCW World Championship Match: Nick Gage (c) vs. Atticus Cogar

Singles Match: Tony Deppen vs. Matt Vandagriff

Singles Match: Matt Tremont vs. 1 Called Manders

Singles Match: Blake Christian vs. Ophidian

Singles Match: Jimmy Lloyd vs. Ruckus

Singles Match: KTB vs. Dan Maff

Tag Team Match: Hate Trash Disaster (SHLAK & Markus Crane) vs. YDNB (Jordan Oliver & Ellis Taylor)
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Killer Kowalski - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:47:56 EST m+dPSDIk No.6332619 Reply
SHLAK & Markus Crane vs. Jordan Oliver & Ellis Taylor sounds hilarious, might have to give that and some of the rest a watch over the weekend.
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Headbanger Mosh - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 08:18:12 EST nVBpeOcB No.6332664 Reply
>>6332619
It ended up being Nate Webb as Crane had to drop off last minute.

THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 29TH NOVEMBER '19

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- Fri, 29 Nov 2019 08:31:06 EST z+c6DKUE No.6332666
File: 1575034266488.png -(82310B / 80.38KB, 266x166) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE - 29TH NOVEMBER '19
The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
Dave Meltzer's star ratings will also be posted in this thread should there be any.
BLACK FRIDAY SALE - Give Dave your money for just $3.99 - https://www.f4wonline.com/news/black-friday-sale-get-one-month-just-399-202426
Use this thread to post news as it comes through. Do not use the old thread for anything new, try and move discussion to here instead.

> WWE’s four days in Chicago’s Allstate Arena were headlined by the Survivor Series, which drew the largest, but hardly the loudest crowd of the weekend. A legitimate sellout of 11,500 fans on 11/24 indicated a few things. First, the lowest rated brand by far drew the loudest reactions. The matches pushed the hardest on television got mixed reactions. Nobody seemed to care much for Raw and Smackdown, and were heavily into NXT.

> And based on the fact they did a scoreboard on the seven interbrand matches, which ended with NXT winning four, Smackdown two and Raw one, you could very clearly see the priority right now is trying to market the NXT brand as not being viewed as developmental or lesser, and most importantly, use the show to increase Wednesday night ratings. From a strategic standpoint, they couldn’t have done better. Time will tell if the strategy works long-term but writing this without knowledge of how numbers will turn out, thus far the angles that built the show plus the appearances of main roster talent have turned around the NXT ratings.

> The idea is, at least for now, that you will no longer see the Raw and Smackdown talent on NXT as much, so getting the brand over is the key long-term. It should help and the race should tighten up. I would suspect NXT viewership to increase even without Raw & Smackdown talent, at least to well above the pre-SS build-up levels. The key was the push in making people like Shayna Baszler, Rhea Ripley, Keith Lee, Roderick Strong and Matt Riddle into stars based on booking here, combined with the fact that of the three singles title matches, the NXT title bout with Adam Cole beating Pete Dunne was clearly the best of the three.

> The other aspect is if it hurts live viewership of AEW, which was the initial goal. DVR viewership (see WWE section) is another aspect of the Wednesday story. All you can say is WWE did everything it could to do so and as well as it could.

> Takeover is anything but a developmental show. With the exception of Bianca Belair, of the 23 wrestlers on the show, nobody was a product of WWE developmental. Shayna Baszler, who had made a name in MMA, and wrestled on indies for a few years and had a name but was inexperienced, was the only other performer on the show you could even say came to WWE without years of international experience with significant promotions. With guys, it’s almost like the all-star team, the PWG and ROH graduates who are doing what they did before, but on a worldwide stage.

> And it works. There were about 10,500 fans at the Allstate Arena on 11/23 for War Games, a number even more impressive because there were five shows in six nights and drew the second largest crowd of the five. If even a few years ago the suggestion was made that you could put NXT and Raw in the same city on the same weekend and that NXT would draw more fans, regardless of how strong Takeovers always have been, it would have sounded ludicrous. The fact the shows almost always have more heat than the major WWE PPV show the next day built on higher profile shows is something that shouldn’t happen.

> Takeovers now are very different from when they started, which was to give wrestlers trained in the WWE system a chance to do essentially programs on television to build to PPV, to garner inexperience for when they are called up to the main roster.

> Now it has nothing to do with that. One can argue rightly that they need more shows, perhaps even a special, for the real developmental talent. One could also say, given the numbers, that it’s beyond proven that the independent scene is far superior to WWE when it comes to creation of the next wave of stars. The irony is developmental was pushed so hard not that many years ago because of the idea the independents don’t turn out wrestlers who can be marketable on a big stage, so they need to find them and train …
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Icarus - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 09:59:02 EST azxfVtox No.6333040 Reply
yeah you'd have to be real dumb to think Vince would ever book Shayna as strong as she was booked in NXT. She is another one who will be lost in the shuffle and wasted and jobbed out and used to put over shitters. Her days of beign the top pushed star in her division are over when she leaves NXT.
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Beef Wellington - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:35:31 EST v7ekiu3T No.6333087 Reply
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let it serve as reminder ya’ll are below this monopoly
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Asya - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:38:53 EST xU4XWJDh No.6333089 Reply
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Vince will probably "not see it" and have some genius idea for a new character for her that has nothing to do with her background or strengths

Kind of like how allegedly his first thought seeing Keith Lee work babyface at Survivor Series was that he can't wait to make him a monster heel

Apologie to Le Champion

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- Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:52:51 EST jEGuiRVR No.6332519
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Mans literally the GOAT of the millennial era. He was awesome in his last WWE run, delivered great matches in NJPW and he's the highlight of almost every AEW on TNT. He even had my gf cracking up last night. Put some respect on mans name
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Disco Inferno - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:07:59 EST UU65KHjY No.6333052 Reply
>>6332519
Apologise for what? Jericho's one of the most universally well regarded wrestlers going around and has been for literally decades

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