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It's Bayley's move by Bill Alfonos - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:21:58 EST ID:+67/uRkn No.5738353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm sorry man, the Observer recap thread's not up yet but we've gotta talk about this.

Meltzer in the new Observer:

>Kairi Hojo was given the word that she has to come up with a new finisher. Hojo has the coolest looking elbow off the top rope in pro wrestling, probably the best since a young ICW-era Randy Savage. She was told that’s Bayley’s move.

THAT'S BAYLEY'S MOVE

Terrific.
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Christian - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:22:54 EST ID:2emIqQ33 No.5738354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
someone please help I can't stop laughing and I think I'm in serious danger
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Stevie Richards - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:27:38 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5738358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738353
>Has to drop her big hyped up for 4 years move cuz Bayley uses it a couple times and won exactly won match with it
And they're already fucking this up. great job
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Sojournor Bolt - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:29:06 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5738359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738353
That's probably a bullshit rumour, but who cares either way? Not like she can't do other moves.
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Blackjack Mulligan - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:29:48 EST ID:zn5ty1js No.5738360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I haven't watched any of her matches, but seen gifs of her Elbow drop. She does it so differently to Bayley. Better tell Ryder to stop doing Elbow drops to.
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Roxy Astor - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:30:48 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5738361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Having Hojo drop her finisher because "it's Bayley's move"
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Hardcore Holly - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:30:58 EST ID:cKHRn5Np No.5738362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
She ought to do the triple Germans with the Eddie twist or the Frogsplash.

Or how bout the Bionic Elbow.
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Traci Brooks - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:34:54 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5738364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>That's Bayley's move
I'm dead
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Violent J - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:42:08 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5738366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bring back the stinkface ==b
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Hulk Hogan - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:43:01 EST ID:jomj7D54 No.5738367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hojo gets popular literally due to her elbow drop meme being spammed on leddit
>cant do the move

lolwwe
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Kota Ibushi - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:48:29 EST ID:Mq8Jp0Ll No.5738370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738366
>you will never get a stinkface from Hojo
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Bryce Remsburg - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:52:00 EST ID:AIn5HT/D No.5738373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738366

They should give Bayley the pussy-stinkface finisher because she looks like she smells.
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Eugene - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:55:20 EST ID:6xbmHLYN No.5738374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is this a shock?, it happens all of the time, if you come in and your finisher is already used then there's a good chance that you'll have to get anew one.

You must be new to wrestling.
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Lucky Cannon - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:57:39 EST ID:GNvpH8ma No.5738377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i dunno how UFC guys get over; they all go for kneebars or guillotines or big knee strikes, no variety at all and frankly no respect for my one-dimensional imagination
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Traci Brooks - Thu, 18 May 2017 04:02:25 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5738380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is gonna be the Hideo Itami/GTS thing all over again, isn't it? People are gonna clamor for it, then eventually the company caves in and lets her tease it on shows and then eventually hits it and everybody cheers.
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Owen Fart - Thu, 18 May 2017 04:05:39 EST ID:zJjHSZPZ No.5738383 Report Quick Reply
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>what if this is all a work to get fanboys interested in a Bayley/Hojo match with, in some weird circumstance, Bayley working as the heel?

also

dead in the water, no one will ever drop that elbow like Hojo
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Hardcore Holly - Thu, 18 May 2017 04:13:36 EST ID:cKHRn5Np No.5738385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738374
It's not a shock, just the fact that it's a signature move of hers with her own special flash and Bayley does a Macho Man style elbow once in a while. It's like the difference between an Eddie Guerrero frogsplash and an RVD Five Star Frogsplash.

It'd be like them signing Okada and telling him he can't do the Rainmaker because "that's Seth's move," now that Rollins does that wrist lock pulled into a flying knee to replace the Pedigree.
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Superstar Billy Graham - Thu, 18 May 2017 04:15:20 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5738386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait, why did Bayley stop using the belly-to-belly suplex? Did she hurt herself or someone else with it?
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Stevie Richards - Thu, 18 May 2017 04:20:59 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5738389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738386
She hasn't. What makes this unbelievable is for example they would have New Day and Bayley in a tag, Big would hit his 2 Belly to Bellys then Bayley finishes the match with hers. They're that fucking stupid to take someone's heat away before they even show up to the PC, but it doesn't make enough sense to be that believable.

30 superkick guys and 70% of the roster hitting dives but they take Kairi's flashy move shes best known for for Bayley's shitty tribute Elbow for a worker she's never come in contact with that she's won one match with ever. Its possible, but weird it would happen
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Call-Me-Kevin - Thu, 18 May 2017 04:27:59 EST ID:vOSyPGEZ No.5738392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738377
>i dunno how UFC guys get over
They don't. The company (and Connor) is over.
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Lance Storm - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:21:52 EST ID:Gjfv1jLV No.5738415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not that I'm defending the decision or anything, but whenever I look at how the Io does the move I get scared that it it's gonna end up injuring her really bad eventually. I'd like to play devil's advocate here and suggest that maybe part of the decision is based on that fear, even if there's definitely a level of boneheadedness at play here.

I'd wait until more word comes out, though. It's common courtesy in the wrestling business to modify your moveset to accommodate the vets in the company you're working in, so in one sense it's not wrong per se, but I can't imagine this being more than a stray suggestion by some numbnut in the back that's too buried in the WWE bubble that'll be corrected as soon as they realize that it's one of the things that made her over
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Irwin R. Schyster - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:26:24 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5738417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738392
>The company is over.

So it's still got one over on lolWWE
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Irwin R. Schyster - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:27:29 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5738418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738415
>WWE giving a shit about their performers' health

Hojo will be fine, they've got a Z-PAK
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Juventud Guerrera - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:31:22 EST ID:NGSYbnmG No.5738420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>women's wrestling

who cares tbh
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Kyle O'Reilly - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:35:42 EST ID:9v4FGVPz No.5738422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738392
They won a EMMY yesterday.

UFC production crew (inc Dana White) won a sports Emmy.
>yfw "The Beaver mf" Kevin Dunn, and WWE, will never win a Emmy
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Sable - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:49:38 EST ID:SXg8I7AA No.5738427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738373
>You'll never get a pussy stinkface from Bayley

Fuck guys, I want a smelly gf
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Kurt Angle - Thu, 18 May 2017 06:45:04 EST ID:CkCdQkCZ No.5738445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This reeks of bullshit. Can't wait to see her do it and Dave never mention it again.
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Bison Smith - Thu, 18 May 2017 06:59:43 EST ID:lQZaPPun No.5738451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone remember WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO DO THAT MOVE?
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Michael Tarver - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:17:17 EST ID:7FjvZqO7 No.5738461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Best elbow drop going today
>"No, you can't do it, Bayley does one"
>Bayley's is mediocre and is only recent and sporadically used
>Nobody benefits from this decision; lose-lose

If anything, it will hurt Bayley and Hojo will get elbow drop chants. More than likely, nothing interesting will come of this.
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Dawn Marie - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:22:55 EST ID:na0rgITl No.5738464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738359
real quick, have you ever heard rob naylor talk about FCW for a second? not even to say this particular item ends up true but the idea talents relations has a peculiar, counter-productive hangup about something like this is far from dubious
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Attache - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:28:43 EST ID:Ra/4VAVb No.5738468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738353
Dave's been wrong about pretty much everything related to Hojo/Io/Mayu, I wouldn't put much stock in this.
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Jamie Noble - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:42:30 EST ID:Vhbr9KEm No.5738470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bellys elbow drop looks better anyway
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:54:27 EST ID:L/nYKBEK No.5738473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if she is at all bothered, i have ZERO sympathy
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Tully Blanchard - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:10:26 EST ID:YzCfBrec No.5738481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bayley is such shit. Shit in the ring and shit on the mic. And she's ugly. I could overlook all of that if her fans weren't so MUH HUGS and constantly insisting this bitch is something that she is not. And now thanks to this army of autists real talented people are being held back like this jap that actually can wrestle.
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The Great Khali - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:19:06 EST ID:IlXp8WAw No.5738483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738481
i was with you until you said that hojo could wrestle
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Tamina - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:30:42 EST ID:gf04CKB/ No.5738489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How exactly is this new in wrestling?
If you come to a company doing a move that's the same as an established wrestling in the promotion you have to change it..

This isn't new.
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Ernest The Cat Miller - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:32:24 EST ID:FSsKqMRN No.5738492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought Bayley was alright, but lol fuck her I don't give a shit anymore.
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Evangelina - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:36:29 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5738495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738489
I think if the person coming in is famous for that particular move while the other person only recently picked it up and it's not even a finisher, maybe you should let the person coming in have it.
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Paul Orndorff - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:36:35 EST ID:whVlniUC No.5738496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I like Bayley, but this is pretty fucking stupid. It's not just that Kairi's elbow is really good, it's the idea that both of them can't use a top rope elbow drop, especially since Bayley's is explicitly a tribute to her being a fan of Savage as a kid (which fits into her gimmick, but that's the opposite of it being "her move"). Just make it a non-finish for Kairi or something; you've literally got Rich Swann & Seth Rollins both doing Phoenix Splashes on the same brand, and you can't let two different women employed at the same time drop an elbow?
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Shawn Michaels - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:41:59 EST ID:MbMFdgxt No.5738504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738353
ill probably catch a nice ammount of shit for this, but that elbow drop, along with most elbows in wrestling just look full on fucking retarded anyways. looks like she'll destroy her hip long term doing it that way anyways, good for her.
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Paul Orndorff - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:04:31 EST ID:whVlniUC No.5738517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738504
I won't argue that it probably hurts her hip, she probably just doesn't care. I just think the logic behind telling her to drop it is stupid. I also like how it looks in motion, mostly in how she's able to time how her body rotates horizontally really well.
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Eddie Guerrero - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:10:34 EST ID:j63DZQ3B No.5738518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Dirtsheets
>Dave "Style clash banned" Meltzer
Stop sucking this guy's dick already
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:10:52 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5738519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738392
Jon Jones, GSP, Stipe, Joanna, and others are quite over, wtf are you talking about.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:14:23 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5738522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738518
I would hate to be as retarded as you.
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Bertha Faye - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:24:40 EST ID:jKS+xfSp No.5738524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738522
There's nothing wrong with bringing up the inconsistencies with Dave "M.R. is a rib" Meltzer. If and when she does the move he'll just claim "plans change" or never bring it up again.
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Colonel Ninotchka - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:36:08 EST ID:+FTmQhFd No.5738528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738360
Actually shouldn't they tell Bayley to stop doing it because it's Ryder's finisher? Like I said in the dirt sheet thread, I'm glad to see they're so protective of other peoples' finishers considering Seth continues to use the Phoenix Splash and superplex-Falcon Arrow combo as nearfalls despite other guys using the Phoenix Splash and Falcon Arrow as finishers. Also funny that a woman who got over to westerners thanks to gifs of her elbow drop can't use the move that put her on peoples' radar.
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Harlem Bravado - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:42:29 EST ID:XUoJju26 No.5738530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wouldn't it have made more sense to sort this out in the ring? I mean, hype it to a match where the winner gets to keep the move? I'm honestly surprised that considering they had Goldberg beat Lesnar several times we never got a match between Goldberg and Roman over the Master of the Spear.

Doesn't Rhyno still do the Gore anyway?
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Colonel Ninotchka - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:44:33 EST ID:+FTmQhFd No.5738531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738495
The thing is I highly doubt Bayley was even consulted on it.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:44:38 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5738532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738524
Plans do change a ton in wrestling. He said that's the current state of things, but he's aware that things are volatile.

You're literally implying that
  1. Dave Meltzer is a hack
  2. Dave Meltzer is a sensationalist who is barely able to cover his ass

So excuse me if I have trouble taking you seriously.
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Ax - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:47:31 EST ID:d4H9wnaQ No.5738535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
welcome to the big leagues, kid
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Evangelina - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:47:32 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5738536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738530
So many people use the spear I don't think anyone can put a claim on it.
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Evangelina - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:49:18 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5738537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738531
By you I mean the WWE.
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Attache - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:01:56 EST ID:Ra/4VAVb No.5738540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738532
He's kinda been wrong on a ton of things from Japan, but this is WWE related, so maybe he'll actually be 50/50 this time.
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Michael Ponel - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:16:07 EST ID:d5DkO9Ak No.5738545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738353

I don't doubt Dave Meltzer has inside info on when people are signed, but he has no idea what he's talking about when it actually comes to current day, Joshi. Let us not forget he is the moron who said KANA(Asuka) was one of Kairi's biggest rivals in Stardom.
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Mephisto - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:16:54 EST ID:aOtE6y5m No.5738546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm starting to think that they don't want Bayley to be over with the IWC - or, more accurately, with adult males altogether. Her target demographic is kids, and that's fine, but they're probably realizing that such a character cultivating a following of creepy neckbeards like she has is going to reflect poorly on the company and it's fans somewhere down the line, especially in the wake of the Dookie Love guy. They'd rather have her get Cena reactions than see fat twentysomethings rocking "I'm a Hugger" shirts.
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WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:39:05 EST ID:7AeuFDL0 No.5738554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm gonna take this with a grain of salt the size of El Santo's legacy. There are multiple people in WWE who use the flying elbow drop, why would they have one person stop it just because another person uses it?
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Harlem Bravado - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:40:00 EST ID:XUoJju26 No.5738555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738546
>They'd rather have her get Cena reactions than see fat twentysomethings rocking "I'm a Hugger" shirts.
If twentysomethings buy merch I don't see them discouraging it.
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Chase Owens - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:41:20 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5738556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hm...as someone that doesn't miss an opportunity to bash WWE, this sounds like something made up just to stir more hatred towards them

Then again, they are this fucking stupid so I'd expect this of them.
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:45:12 EST ID:0xK4Pu5X No.5738557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738489
Bayley has barely ever done an elbow drop, while Hojo has used it as her finisher for years and does a particularly spectacular, unique elbow drop. It would be like telling Ember she can't do the Eclipse/O-Face because Cena did a springboard stunner.
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One Man Gang - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:59:40 EST ID:VcqLQrpC No.5738564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds like made up bs. Wont be the first time Meltz makes "safe" shit up to fill his weekly news dump that he can cover up later since it'll look irrelevant.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:01:14 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5738566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738564
This is wwe we're talking about though, they're actually retarded enough to make a decision like this, they have done it plenty of times in the past.
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Harlem Bravado - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:02:45 EST ID:XUoJju26 No.5738568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738564
If anything it's probably to drum up controversy amongst the fans to put WWE in a position where they have no choice but to have Hojo keep the move or else they end up taking it out on Bayley, who the crowd has already begun to cool off of.
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Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:03:01 EST ID:iyI+X3j1 No.5738570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738532
Meltzer is a hack though. He commits to nothing so that he can always fall back on 'plans changed'. Plus he's an elitist fuck for making fun of Ryder for winning the belt and getting emotional. I'm glad Lana and Rusev bitch slapped for lying (and being wrong) and hope more talents do the same.
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Dragonfly - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:08:07 EST ID:WMSPRgLp No.5738573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738570
You tell em mark.
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Nidia - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:21:10 EST ID:adR5bDMf No.5738576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Serves hojo right for being an idiotic mark wrestler
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Mad Man Pondo - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:22:50 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5738578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
can't wait for Hojo to start using the Overdrive
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Tatanka - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:30:54 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5738584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well that doesn't make much sense to say no two people on the roster can do the same move, especially when one is executed completely different.
They literally had Fandango, Adam Rose and Ambrose all doing the same finisher at one point.
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Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:31:41 EST ID:iyI+X3j1 No.5738586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738573
>meltzer army reporting in
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Colonel DeBeers - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:36:27 EST ID:9zCigD+9 No.5738591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE is guilty of making people change moves and finishers for small reasons before so it's believable. Should be easy enough for her to come up with a new finisher though.
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Scott Steiner - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:37:30 EST ID:KBKWXXhi No.5738592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Her elbow drop looked retarded anyways.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:45:23 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5738598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738570
He commits to a lot of stuff though, are you blind?

You read way too far into stuff, damn dude.
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Godiva - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:46:07 EST ID:j6Suq8Ay No.5738599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know it's not her fault but Bayley fucking suuuuuuuuuucks
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Scott Parker - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:50:28 EST ID:tWNTajNV No.5738603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738540
Speaking of Dave being wrong, remember when he said Shibata's injury was a work
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Don Harris - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:51:12 EST ID:ToeHWTa1 No.5738605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Io Shirai practice didn't go "swimmingly" and she isn't signing
>Asuka top stardom star
>Elbow banned
Holy trinity of bullshit
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William Perry - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:53:13 EST ID:uBQbuW6i No.5738608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>the absolute state of kairi hojo
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Mad Man Pondo - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:54:01 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5738610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738603
what about him still pushing that Omega isn't working ROH because of a visa even thought he's already being heavily promoted for the US New Japan shows a month and a half from now
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Dragonfly - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:57:30 EST ID:/In2L8I3 No.5738617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738603
he said the impression he got from the people there was that it was a work
he just reports what he hears, friend
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Scott Parker - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:01:29 EST ID:tWNTajNV No.5738620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738617
Then perhaps he should get better sources
Still waiting on that big Mauro-JBL story to break that he's been touting since Mauro left.
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:01:37 EST ID:0xK4Pu5X No.5738621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738605
Io has signed.
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Christian - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:03:49 EST ID:2emIqQ33 No.5738625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738621
That's why he said "io isn't signing" is bullshit.
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William Regal - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:08:04 EST ID:x7Y5xqjS No.5738630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738620
DeN PeRhApS He ShUlD gIt BeddUr SoRcEs
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Jamie Keyes - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:14:46 EST ID:j4GxTK0A No.5738643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>people still believing Dave when it comes to joshi shit

For what purpose?
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The Warlord - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:15:03 EST ID:CIIunE+5 No.5738646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738630
This shouldn't leave twitter.
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Silent Masturbator - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:18:52 EST ID:csRjk9XU No.5738650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738545
Does he mean Charlotte?
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Vince McMahon - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:20:58 EST ID:idU4Cvk+ No.5738654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wait I thought wins/losses/copying moves didn't matter in WWE since all their talent copied theirmoves from other wrestlers? I don't understand this company at all, one day they are sports entertainment, then they try to be a legit wrestling federation?
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Kevin Steen - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:28:30 EST ID:81xBap/p No.5738660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kairi has a sick Sliding-D.
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The Undertaker - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:20:35 EST ID:IDJwsne7 No.5738726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738660
I'd like to Slide her my D if you catch my drift
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Harlem Bravado - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:47:57 EST ID:XUoJju26 No.5738753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738726
>D
>drift
I understand perfectly.
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Molly Holly - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:00:14 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5738764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738643
Famous Joshi company the WWE
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Paul Orndorff - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:03:29 EST ID:whVlniUC No.5738768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738764
When will WWF Alumni Aja Kong enter the Hall of Fame
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:29:42 EST ID:oNUG40dn No.5738908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hojos Diving Crooked Ragdoll Senton looks like shit anyway.
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Murphy - Thu, 18 May 2017 17:15:22 EST ID:rAqiWovF No.5738939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738422
>mfw Jim Johnston hasn't won an Emmy despite him being the only person good at their job backstage

feels bad
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Thu, 18 May 2017 17:25:34 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5738942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738939
No Grammy either, iduno he'd probably never get any kind of recognition for his stuff in that aspect

Mashing themes into a few discs have resulted in some Platinum Albums though, he'll always have that
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Konnan - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:23:16 EST ID:kO1U0EGi No.5738987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't bring myself to actually believe this, it's just too fucking stupid. I have to believe that by the time Kairi debuts someone will come to their senses and realize how fucking dumb this is. I HAVE to believe that.
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Harvey Wippleman - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:29:12 EST ID:m8eZ5ifH No.5738991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Everything about this whole joshi-going-to-WWE thing makes me so unreasonably angry. It's like you have something wonderful that not many people really know about, and then it gets massively shit on, changed, neutered, and the WWE crowd eats it all up because "waaah they're are japanese so they must be good oh soo good what WWE is presenting" without any real interest or knowlegde of what and how joshi really is. God that makes me so mad.

And yes I am aware of my turbo autism. I'm just so mad and sad about it.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:51:21 EST ID:tarI869j No.5739018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738987
I mean do you guys not remember when Hideo Itami couldn't do the GTS and Running Knee but then eventually he was allowed to? I'm sure the same will happen to Kairi.
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Al Snow - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:51:27 EST ID:4YvqWiKt No.5739019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738991
i understand that feel and im also mad for many other reasons

we can't let wwe (or circlejerk, a big reason why the stardom girls were signed) get exposed to any more good joshi that they can try to poach. no posting gifs or mentioning them on twitter, circlejerk, outside the general thread, etc.

keep it in the secret taima club from now on and dont let anyone learn about the hidden talent
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Sojournor Bolt - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:57:35 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5739028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738991
Only thing that bothers me are people who will turn their nose up at wrestling they have never heard about, but then wank themselves off over it as soon as WWE mentions it after signing someone.

Like NJPW blew up when WWE signed cousin Fergal and then AJ with WWE mentioning NJPW by name. I just don't understand people going crazy about seeing someone's matches when they could have been watching them have much matches all along. It's confusing.
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Stevie Richards - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:59:39 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739019
>we can't let wwe (or circlejerk, a big reason why the stardom girls were signed) get exposed to any more good joshi
but they went after stardom
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Daniel Bryan - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:00:39 EST ID:o2I15rzK No.5739033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738991
It's not even joshi as much as it is Stardom having some wrestlers that have very giffable moves, a strong English PR presence on places like circlejerk and twitter (even if Sonny is an asshole), etc. that makes people think all western fans think that Stardom is the end all, be all of joshi despite how wretched it's been for the last year (which, of course, they won't admit).

If they watched anything beyond Io main events they'd know there's a lot of good wrestlers out there who are getting overlooked because Stardom's made themselves synonymous to English fans with joshi. Otherwise you'd be seeing someone like Tsukushi getting buzz and winding up as a lock for the women's tournament as more attention is paid to other promotions.
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Al Wilson - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:00:43 EST ID:W9c7JJAK No.5739034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738603
He never said it was a work you moron, he said he believed it was real, but that there were works of that magnitude that had happened before. He never ever confirmed it was a work, he openly admitted it was speculation and said to wait for the medical report.
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Stevie Richards - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:02:36 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739031
ok you mean workers nvm
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Sonny Onoo - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:03:13 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5739038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738991
please do keep the joshi hidden, that would be preferred ty
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Daniel Bryan - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:05:37 EST ID:o2I15rzK No.5739041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739019
I mean on one hand it'd suck to see my favorite promotion (Ice Ribbon in this case) get talent taken from them and the cancer that comes from circlejerk and wrestling twitter latching onto things. On the other hand wrestlers like Tsukushi, Riho and Kotori are very good and certainly deserve more recognition and the opportunity to perform on bigger stages.
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Sojournor Bolt - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:06:55 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5739044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739034
I vividly remember him claiming that it was a work, that he was told that it was a work and that he believed it was a work over two or three WORs. You can go listen back to them if you want.

Also, remember when he said Asuka/Kana is from Stardom? He's regularly completely wrong with his Japan scoops/information in general.
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Harvey Wippleman - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:07:54 EST ID:m8eZ5ifH No.5739046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm just relieved that the best joshis are too ugly for WWE standards
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William Perry - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:10:05 EST ID:uBQbuW6i No.5739048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739046
Tsukka is pretty!
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Al Snow - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:15:00 EST ID:4YvqWiKt No.5739056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739046
grandma arisa and big cats mayu are the most intellectual beauties in joshi
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Harvey Wippleman - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:16:32 EST ID:m8eZ5ifH No.5739060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739048
I know she is, just not in the eyes of WWE luckily.
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Daizee Haze - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:17:17 EST ID:15E4wyJI No.5739061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739044
Remember when he said Pollyanna is Emi Sakura?

>>5739048
very pretty
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Jerry Lynn - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:39:43 EST ID:j63DZQ3B No.5739157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738568
>If anything it's probably to drum up controversy amongst the fans to put WWE in a position where they have no choice but to have Hojo keep the move or else they end up taking it out on Bayley, who the crowd has already begun to cool off of.
Holy shit, and here I was thinking that Haitch apologist projected a lot.
He constantly makes shit up to fill his daily news dump. I'm not saying he's always full of shit, but this kind of news reeks of bullshit just for the sake of taking a hit to the big bad carny company, and since it won't affect his credibility once she starts doing the move every week on nxt, he can just say shit like this and people will still listen to him because he's the only faggot that dares to report "rassling newz" for more than 15 years, so he has an "established" credibility and audience.
He's been doing this for years and you know he has a "well, plans change" ready for this one before never mention it again.
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Muscle Sakai - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:43:23 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739157
Way to spaz out about your own goofy projections ya weirdo
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Tatanka - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:45:57 EST ID:UDcJBMOf No.5739163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
do people actually watch wwe?
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Owen Fart - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:48:06 EST ID:/OOxrlQe No.5739164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739163

apparently so given how this Diva Dirt-tier story has taken off on here
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Mickie Knuckles - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:53:23 EST ID:s2VSYOaH No.5739168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738753
>tfw cool vibrations
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Honky Tonk Man - Thu, 18 May 2017 21:42:25 EST ID:NGSYbnmG No.5739186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739163
Yes, unlike joshi
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Michael Cole - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:38:52 EST ID:Wj290ubQ No.5739224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739186
The joshi megathread sees a ton of activity, meanwhile WWE doesn't even have a megathread. QED
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:58:43 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5739230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>It's Bayley's move
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Lady Apache - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:02:29 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5739234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739224
>The joshi megathread
I want to forget it exists.
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Triple H - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:03:18 EST ID:Y6TaGfk1 No.5739236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738991
You should not be mad.

All these joshis did well in Japan, and are good wrestlers. But they are now going to America and WWE. They will make more money, good for them.

Which means eventually, [after a year in NXT where smarks will cheer them], the joshis will arrive to RAW. RAW is on Vince & Dunn, and the ONLY 2 things they care about are mic skills and looks. These joshis are not attractive to the average American, Vince hates Asians, and these joshis can't even speak english.

Imagine the joshi with a live mic in front of 10000 American people and Alexa Bliss cutting a promo in front of her destroying her over & over like she did to Bayley. And the joshi struggling to form one basic scripted English line, before Alexa Bliss makes fun of her accent, her looks and her country. And the poor joshi is completely unable to fight back. She is getting buried on the mic. And then you will finally realize the truth, the ultimate red pill.

These joshis were never meant to succeed, they were only brought in to weaken other promotions. And i will enjoy these overrated joshis being put into their place by beautiful All- American girls.
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Icarus - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:08:38 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5739240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739236
Kana is super over though, and she hardly says anything.
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RJ Brewer - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:09:48 EST ID:gf04CKB/ No.5739241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739236
How can any straight man look at that picture and not love Alexa?
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:14:35 EST ID:mSe8QVtA No.5739242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739236
>she can singapore my cane
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Tori - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:24:11 EST ID:SqNODK61 No.5739252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739236
Wow, someone was autistic enough to write all of this.
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Muscle Sakai - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:25:31 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739236
>they care about mic skills
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Shane Storm - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:58:11 EST ID:7+Jz//E1 No.5739276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738545
Did he just confuse Charlotte with Sasha Banks? Banks isn't exactly known for her moonsaulting.
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Tatanka - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:05:37 EST ID:UDcJBMOf No.5739323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739236
this is some next level fetish shit my man. im blown away
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Gunner - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:08:57 EST ID:6wzRQTu6 No.5739325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739254
Yeah, they do.

Alexa's not that great of a wreslter, certainly not good enough for the level of her push, but she has great mic skills as compared to the rest of the women. In addition to a marketable look. AJ Lee was a good mic worker with a marketable look, though I would argue she was slightly better in the ring than Alexa, though Alexa has a much much better look.

Obviously the look is #1, but mic skills are a good portion as well. Ring work unfortunately takes a distant 3rd.
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Dude Love - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:13:17 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5739331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739240

>Kana is super over though

at Full Sail sure. Ask Ascension, American Alpha, Sami Zayn, Adam Rose, Tyler Breeze, etc. what being super over at Full Sail is worth.
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Lady Apache - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:17:30 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5739333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739236
Perfect RNG tho.
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Dragon Dragon - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:20:15 EST ID:ITYk2YmP No.5739335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738532

1 nd 2 ae accurate. Wake up you fucking idiot. Meltzer's as much of a mark as all of us.
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Muscle Sakai - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:36:15 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739331
With Sami it means well since he still gets reactions, and Adam Rose was over for a bit before they killed him mercifully
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The Mantaur - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:49:21 EST ID:B8HpQuEi No.5739339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739335
I always think its funny when people call Dave an idiot because basically all wrestling news either comes from official company press releases, twitters of wrestlers or Dave.
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Dragon Dragon - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:00:20 EST ID:ITYk2YmP No.5739341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739339

I love it when stupid people lampshade the argument. Meltzer's a fan and has zero real sources inside wwe yet people fucking take his word as gospel.
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Dude Love - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:02:09 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5739342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739341

>calling ppl idiots and stupid because they don't have the apparent repulsion of Meltz you have

chill out
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The Mantaur - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:03:26 EST ID:B8HpQuEi No.5739343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739341
Cool bro. I'm sure wrestlezone.com has got all the real scoops.
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Dragon Dragon - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:47:17 EST ID:ITYk2YmP No.5739350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739342

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Meltzer.. I just don't take everything he says as the word of god like some of these people seem to. They are fucking stupid. He's a guy telling you his opinions. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Dragon Dragon - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:47:56 EST ID:ITYk2YmP No.5739351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739343

Kill yourself. nb.
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Allison Wonderland - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:54:59 EST ID:jN4lC2fo No.5739355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739224
>Someone using QED on wooo
Now I've seen everything
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Okada - Fri, 19 May 2017 03:02:24 EST ID:FGyuPruA No.5739357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thought her finisher was a diving hip drop?
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The Mantaur - Fri, 19 May 2017 03:24:56 EST ID:B8HpQuEi No.5739361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739351
You seem incredibly angry. Calm down.
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Chi Chi - Fri, 19 May 2017 03:43:04 EST ID:L8HzJTCa No.5739365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739341
Meltzer haters are so weird to me. Nobody is saying his word is gospel, but to act like he isn't the preeminent journalist in professional wrestling smacks of ignorance and/or jealousy. For example, claiming he has "zero real sources inside WWE" when 95% of all WWE news is sourced to his newsletter really comes off bitter and spiteful, and I don't know why people get so worked up about him. It's not uncommon that I disagree with his opinions, especially when it comes to match ratings, but that doesn't mean I'm going to declare his journalistic credibility invalid.

My best guess is it's exactly because of how revered he is by so many people. Anybody who gets to the top of his profession is going to deal with more or less the same thing. What's incredible to me about the dude isn't the big scoops or big bantz, it's that he's channeled his autism into being a walking history book when it comes to wrestling. I love his pieces on history, which unfortunately usually come in the form of obituaries. In fact, I'm gonna start a thread and post my favorite historical articles tomorrow. Thanks for the inspiration, dude.
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Lucky Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:00:49 EST ID:sy59iezq No.5739370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739365
Some people just try really really hard to try and think of themselves as more superior than a guy who has reported on Pro Wrestligg for basically his entire adult life. It's pretty funny tbh because they always either end up backtracking a bunch, or people just shit on them and call them a retard.
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Headbanger Trasher - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:04:33 EST ID:2emIqQ33 No.5739371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739370
>Some people just try really really hard to try and think of themselves as more superior than a guy who has reported on Pro Wrestligg for basically his entire adult life.
There are absolutely people on the internet who know more about specific sections of wrestling than Meltzer and to think otherwise is putting him on a really dumb pedestal
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The Mantaur - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:11:03 EST ID:B8HpQuEi No.5739374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739371
On the flip of this he knows a lot of history and has the best scoops on the big companies so calling him a hack for not being the eminent scholar on joshi of all things is pretty silly.
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Icarus - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:24:24 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5739377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739374
There is a reason we have a joshi containment thread
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Muscle Sakai - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:44:06 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739374
It doesn't really make him a hack overall but it makes him hard to take seriously, at least calling on anything pretaining to that area of wrestling when he's talking about a joshi promotion and he's confusing La Rosa Negra, a dark skinned Puerto Rican woman with a light skinned Mexican worker who plays Kobra Moon on LU(Thunder Rosa) or that Emi Sakura goes by the ring name Pollyana, or saying a worker who never worked in a promotion because of her heat with one of the founders was the top star in said promotion. Routine stuff you don't even have to really look up. Those are mistakes you'd expect someone whose only exposure to joshi was seeing Omega fight a little girl
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Muscle Sakai - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:46:13 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739379
*you'd expect someone whose only exposure to joshi was seeing Omega fight a little girl to "report"

nb
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Karen Jarrett - Fri, 19 May 2017 05:29:52 EST ID:1+I0pgqP No.5739388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow Joshi fans need to fuck off
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Becky Bayless - Fri, 19 May 2017 05:36:55 EST ID:NuiRTDNM No.5739392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739388
Many of the weebs here are cringe as fuck but the Bayley fans are worse. Anyway WWE should be blamed more for this ITT than any fanbase.
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Muscle Sakai - Fri, 19 May 2017 05:37:43 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739388
not happening
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Gerald Brisco - Fri, 19 May 2017 06:07:38 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5739401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>yeah, this is just a rumour and Meltzer is regularly completely wrong about Japan news - especially relating to women's wrestling
>WTF HOW DARE YOU SAY MELTZER ISN'T ALWAYS RIGHT?! WHAT ARE YOU A WEEB?! HE TELLS ME WWE STORIES!!
Yeah and he is regularly wrong about this stuff, plus it's a rumour. Maybe just wait and see if it's true or not instead of whiteknighting for no reason.
I'm sure all of you are experts on Kairi Hojo and not just marks who only know about her because of gifs.
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Jesse Neal - Fri, 19 May 2017 06:16:51 EST ID:P8A3zVT+ No.5739404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hojo will suffer quite a bit from this, because without the eblow drop she's going to be a sympathetic babyface who can't speak English well and doesn't have the in ring charisma that Shirai does or the out of ring charimsa Asuka does. Basically like watching Sammi Zayn on the main roster who will constantly lose because WWE expects him to stay over somehow.

Shirai has less of a problem, in fact she could probably clone Jericho's entire WCW moveset and use Tanahashi signature moves and be just fine.

It's turning into the KENTA situation when he first came to NXT and almost his entire list of moves were hijacked by Daniel Bryan or CM Punk
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The Mantaur - Fri, 19 May 2017 06:38:02 EST ID:B8HpQuEi No.5739414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739379
>I find it hard to take Meltzer seriously on anything at all because he doesn't know the intricacies of this obscure minor league promotion from the other side of the world
Bro you live in a bubble
I could understand it if he constantly reviewed joshi shows but he barely talks about it.
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Shawn Michaels - Fri, 19 May 2017 07:26:28 EST ID:7FjvZqO7 No.5739431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739401
Son, the fuck are you even doing?
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Gerald Brisco - Fri, 19 May 2017 08:06:23 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5739439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739431
Please don't shitpost unintelligibly based on your own lack of reading comprehension. Thank you.

nb
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Soldier Ant - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:29:04 EST ID:/In2L8I3 No.5739490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739414
joshi fans live in their own world
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Michael Cole - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:54:37 EST ID:Wj290ubQ No.5739510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739414
>Meltzer doesn't know anything about joshi so it's hard to take him seriously when he's reporting about joshi

Why is this such a hard concept
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Shane Storm - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:26:43 EST ID:oD2MmcT8 No.5739538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's definitely a middle ground somewhere between "Meltzer is a moron who doesn't know everything" and "Meltzer is a spotless beacon of knowledge who is never wrong about anything"
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WallsOfY2J - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:36:14 EST ID:8ZbOStcB No.5739549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738353
I do not watch Joshi, so I literally know her only from that amazing fucking elbow drop. What the fuck. It is not as if Bailey's is so perfect.
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Jerry Lynn - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:08:33 EST ID:j63DZQ3B No.5739569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739538
It's somewhere between being able to enjoy wrestling or just bash the companies you don't like
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:10:17 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel like it warrants pointing out that at least two matches on this week's 205 Live had Elbow Drops.
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:15:13 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739571
Yeah but no one on 205 Live is a woman.

This disctinction shouldn't mean anything, but WWE is ass backwards carny land so it means the world to them if two women do the same move, but nothing if more than one man does the same move.
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Doug Basham - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:25:20 EST ID:uXbGQaAl No.5739584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738591
it's so strange
>Seth, you can't use one of the best and over finisher's in a decade because retard kids may attempt it at home
>Bliss literally does 5-7 curbstomps in a row for one of her moves that isn't a finisher
I just don't get it
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:32:54 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739584
Funny how Vince seemed fine with it until the Curbstomp pinned Reigns in what was supposed to be his boy's coronating moment...
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:38:17 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739593
Are you implying Vince got upset with his own booking?

i believe it
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Shawn Michaels - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:47:47 EST ID:7FjvZqO7 No.5739611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739439
Oh dear...
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:51:02 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739603
Well, technically, it wasn't HIS booking...

Those damn FANS didn't react how they were supposed to *achoo*
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:53:18 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739439
Nothing he said was "unintelligible" unless you're a complete dumbsh-

>zEpq

Nevermind.
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Gerald Brisco - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:59:10 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5739618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739614
His post, responding to my post, made literally no sense within the context of the discussion friend. Posting these unproductive, ID stalking posts without actually adding to the discussion is toxic so please stop doing that, thanks.

nb
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:02:29 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739618
>"ID stalking"

Sorry pal. Doesn't take a lot of effort to have basic pattern recognition.
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Muscle Sakai - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:02:35 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5739623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739414
If you didn't read what I posted, why would you still respond?
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Darkness Crabtree - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:06:01 EST ID:jgE1stmI No.5739628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739236
I liked your post. But it has a weak point, the only good talker in wwe is Alexa everyone else is just like this jap girls they couldn't make a promo to save her lives. And about the "looks" wtf are you talking about the same company who has Charlotte/Sasha/Bayley as main eventers??

Now I liked your post bc if some of this joshis get envolved in a feud with Alexa, her gooks asses will be raped.
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Dude Love - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:12:37 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5739636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739622

srsly, been like the same three dudes throwing a hissy fit for like two straight days, lashing out at anyone who dares to think a Metlzer rumor could be legit.
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Rachel Summerlyn - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:32:44 EST ID:ft7VHGkS No.5739669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
someone give me a fuckin link to the elbow drop
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Virgil - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:59:43 EST ID:qXj661vA No.5739722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739669
https://twitter.com/JoshiPuro/status/865554278710001669
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:39:51 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739722
I've avoided this thread because elbow drops have always looked super-meh to me.
Hot damn gurl actually made it look good for once.
Guess the rage's warranted.
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:46:26 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739775
I mean regardless of how her elbow drops are, it's retarded to tell anyone that a move as basic as an elbow drop belongs to anyone
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:56:38 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739789
Same can be said about piledrivers, spears, bulldogs, does anyone besides Nia even do the legdrop these days?
It's stupid, but it's branding. Corporate interest usually leads to stupid.
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P.N. News - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:01:31 EST ID:KsM1pHmi No.5739813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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good. let hojo save her hip so she can enjoy life when she decides to retire.
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Road Warrior Hawk - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:07:39 EST ID:15E4wyJI No.5739823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739813
Her hip won't be the problem if she doesn't stop getting concussed every other match.
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Madusa - Fri, 19 May 2017 20:00:53 EST ID:ITYk2YmP No.5740134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739370

Dude. Jesus christ. Does Meltzer pay you faggots' bills or something. I've already said I don't hate Meltzer, I just don't think he's worth taking everything he says as one hundred per cent fact like you fucking defense force retards do.

>DAVE SAID IT IT'S TRUE

The exact Opposite happens on Monday/Tuesday/Sunday

>O-oh P-plans change.

Fuck all of you.
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Bad News Brown - Sat, 20 May 2017 06:37:15 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5740395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740134
>still this mad
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Umaga - Sat, 20 May 2017 07:25:02 EST ID:VtapobFd No.5740415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740134

Hilarious fury continues.
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Charlie Haas - Sat, 20 May 2017 07:45:35 EST ID:/QRGjWkL No.5740417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738939
>the only person good at their job backstage

WWE's video editing team are the best in their field no doubt, they're the ones who can turn RAW/SD dreck into an exciting pre-PPV match video.
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Obariyon - Sat, 20 May 2017 08:48:44 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.5740440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>guy makes educated guesses and reports gossip on children's programming
>'journalist'

lol you marks kill me.
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Colonel DeBeers - Sat, 20 May 2017 09:04:16 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5740457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740134

You should probably take a break from this considering how irrationally angry Dave Meltzer makes you. Like, getting this mad about pro wrestling results is bad enough, but you're getting legitimately angry as all fuck at a pro wrestling journalist that doesn't even know you exist. You appear to have some sort of social retardation affecting you.
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Toshie Uematsu - Sat, 20 May 2017 09:57:49 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5740497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740440
He was a journalist, to be fair. He just ended up running a 'publication' off of his name value as the only actually wrestling journalist and now he just watches things an analyses them in a weird, naive old man sort of way.

His reports are all either random assumptions or something someone told him. For WWE and stuff it works out because he actually knows people there, but for everywhere else all his sources are terrible. He also doesn't watch most stuff so when he reports on it it's incredibly obvious that he has no idea what he's talking about. He's good for a handful of things but he's worthless when it comes to Japan news - the only things he ever gets right about Japan are things that have already been reported there.
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Kerry Von Erich - Sat, 20 May 2017 10:05:02 EST ID:aOtE6y5m No.5740503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740457
It's not even a wrestling thing. There's a certain section of the American populace (I shouldn't need to elaborate) who've been conditioned to distrust and even hate the media, and to some extent journalism itself. nb for off topic
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Faby Apache - Sat, 20 May 2017 10:29:01 EST ID:GqSlzW2m No.5740521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
inb4 it turns out Meltzer never actually said this
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Bad News Brown - Sat, 20 May 2017 10:35:23 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5740528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740440
If only that petulant maxim was literal.
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Mari Apache - Sat, 20 May 2017 13:23:49 EST ID:o2I15rzK No.5740640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739789
I think it's more the elbow drop as a finisher. Which is retarded because I think Bayley's maybe used it once or twice and again the elbow drop has been Ryder's finisher for a while so why can she use it while he's using it? Ignoring that why is Seth still allowed to do two moves that other guys are using as finishers?
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Golga - Sat, 20 May 2017 13:27:58 EST ID:FSEFQsC5 No.5740646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740640
Pedigree is obvious reason why but whats the other one?
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Mari Apache - Sat, 20 May 2017 13:36:56 EST ID:o2I15rzK No.5740655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740646
He's not doing the Pedigree anymore. I'm talking about the Phoenix Splash he busts out in PPV matches and the superplex-Falcon Arrow combo. Swann's been using the Phoenix Splash as his finisher, Fandango's been using the Falcon Arrow. Of course both guys are lower on the card but you still shouldn't be using other guys' finishers to get nearfalls in your own matches.

Seth fucking sucks though and had to steal the Rain Trigger from Omega making it look much worse in the process.
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Ricky Ortiz - Sat, 20 May 2017 14:06:00 EST ID:L/pdOrJZ No.5740676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>confusing Sasha and Charlotte
>thinking Kana worked for Stardom
...is Dave okay? Is he sick?
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Conor O'Brian - Sat, 20 May 2017 14:33:55 EST ID:uC72kSHq No.5740698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740655
>Shitting on guys for using finishers as nearfalls
>Shitting on finisher stealing
>When Omega himself uses the Doctor Bomb as a nearfall move
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Mark Madden - Sat, 20 May 2017 14:39:16 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5740704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh well I don't watch women's wrestling anyway. I only wanna see T&A
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Mankind - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:05:46 EST ID:XTV7ZC0/ No.5740764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740704
Women have T&A too
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Ricky Ortiz - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:17:09 EST ID:L/pdOrJZ No.5740774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740704
But Test is dead.
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Cheech Hernandez - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:44:27 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5740798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740774
Did anybody check to make sure he's still dead?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:54:38 EST ID:tarI869j No.5740814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740798
Yep - https://twitter.com/IsTestStillDead/status/865822611233624065
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Umaga - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:57:49 EST ID:VtapobFd No.5740818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740814
Hahaha wow. Over 2k followers. Quite a few waiting for the Return?
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sat, 20 May 2017 17:00:30 EST ID:fFbHMKlg No.5740823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5740818

They all want to go to the high school sock hop.


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