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THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE (18TH MAY '17) by Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:39:29 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5738423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter.
Dave Meltzer's star ratings will be posted in this thread.
Use this thread to post news as it comes through.

> The NXT Takeover show in Chicago has sold well even with a lineup that on paper doesn’t look like something that would sell well, as they are expecting in the range of 8,000 fans. In fact, lineups are meaningless. NXT, which has declined greatly in quality, still has a hot buzz and Takeovers have always delivered.

> Sam Adonis, the brother of Corey Graves, is starting as the color commentator for CMLL's English language TV show that airs in Canada on The Fight Network

> In an interesting note, AAA wasn’t allowed to air an Aerostar & Drago vs. Killshot & Marty the Moth match at the tapings in Tijuana. Killshot and Marty are Lucha Underground characters.

> Hiroshi Tanahashi suffered a torn biceps injury on the 5/14 show in Philadelphia. That should require surgery and put him out of action for months, but with the mentality the top stars in Japan have about being there for their company, he may not do the surgery and just rehab it. If he does that, it’ll lead to a permanent deformity in the biceps muscle which is tough on a bodybuilder type guy. But surgery would put him out of action six to eight months, and mess up company major plans because you know Tanahashi was figured strongly into G-1 and the build for next year’s Tokyo Dome show. Most likely he was scheduled to win the IC title at the Dominion show, and thus this would change all the long-term plans for that title which was likely to headline one of the two Long Beach shows and several of the PPV shows later in the year.

> Right now the plan is for Tanahashi to be out this tour, but he may still return for Dominion and Long Beach rather than get surgery. Tanahashi had suffered a partial biceps tear in early 2016 when he had his shoulder injury and missed some time, notably missing his scheduled ladder match with Kenny Omega that opened the door for Michael Elgin to step in. Tama Tonga worked the last tour after a partial tear. A full tear would either require surgery, keeping him out for six to eight months, or rehab, which would have him out a shorter period of time, but would leave him with a big space in his arm.

> A press conference will be held on 5/18 in Los Angeles for the Long Beach shows. One of the things that will be announced is the TV schedule for the shows. The 7/1 show is scheduled to run live on a Saturday night and the 7/2 show (which will go head-to-head with TNA’s Slammiversary show) will air on AXS on 7/8, or head-to-head with UFC on FS 1.

> Five Star Wrestling has announced John Morrison, Chris Masters, Carlito, Moose, PJ Black and Shelton Benjamin as participants in its 128 man tournament which will run every Saturday night from 6/10 in Liverpool to 12/30 in Manchester, including shows at the biggest arenas in the U.K. What’s notable is that Moose and Masters are with Impact, and Impact has television in the market. In theory would be looking at promoting on their own in the market with the ITV deal, but that’s on hold for a long time. They’ve also announced a new date on 8/5 in London at the 7,500-seat Copper Box Arena.

> The Cubs Fan reported that in Germany, the TV show last week did 110,000 viewers at 11 p.m. and 80,000 at midnight in its second week on Tele-5. That’s along the lines of what the show does in the U.S., and given the population difference, I’d say that’s a good showing.

> This year’s ROH Final Battle is once again scheduled for the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York in December.

> As expected, Travis “Flip” Gordon signed here. Both ROH and Impact were after him. Friends of his steered him to ROH because he’s not signing an exclusive ROH contract, so he can continue booking his own indie dates. The feeling is that his name will be breaking out some this year being pushed in Northeast Wrestling and working for The Crash, and if he had signed with Impact, they’d have controlled his indie bookings and a lot of promoters don’t like going through Impact, plus Impact has been signing people on per-day basis contracts and unless they start doing house shows, that’s not a lot of money.

> Marty Scurll got an endorsement deal as he will be the main person in an ad campaign for British fashion company Topman promoting a new line of Muscle Fit Suits. The commercial shows Scurll performing in a sold out York Hall, identifies him by name as a pro wrestler, shows him backstage as well as all dressed up wearing a suit.

> Seth Lesser, best known as Simon Gotch of the Vaudevillains, who has designed T-shirts with a new name of Simon Grimm, was backstage not just at the ROH PPV but also at the TV tapings over the weekend.

> Jeff Jarrett brought up the World Cup, saying that there was talk of AAA, Pro Wrestling NOAH and Impact working together for the annual World Cup trios tournament, saying it would be in Japan in October but it’s not a done deal. It’ll be hard because the guy from Japan who was key the previous years had a falling out with AAA and was helping The Crash.

> Some ratings updates from the U.K. The first week show, as reported earlier, did 151,000 viewers on Spike U.K., which is about what the show had been doing on Challenge at the end, or slightly better. It was the fifth most watched show on the station for the week. It’s double to triple what Raw does on Sky, but Spike is available in far more homes. The second show on 4/28 we didn’t get a number on as it wasn’t among the highest rated shows on the station and would have been less than 129,000. The 5/5 show did 135,000 viewers.

> Matt Sydal has signed with TNA so he’ll be regular from this point forward.

> Dixie Carter wrote on Instagram that she’s filming a television show. For years Carter has tried to get a reality show about her life done.
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Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:45:10 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5738425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738423
> NBC Universal announced that Smackdown will be trying out a picture-in-picture approach during the commercials for Smackdown. This has been tried before with other sports and wrestling in the past. The idea in theory is that people won’t speed through commercials on DVR or change channels. During the commercial periods on Smackdown, the sound will be of the commercial but there will be a part of the picture showing the action going on in the arena. This is expected to debut in late May or early June. They are also planning this for the 2018 Olympics. They did this on a couple of Smackdown shows in 2016 and it was successful in that ratings during the commercial breaks were 13 percent higher and led to a two percent overall increase in ratings of those episodes. They said that test marketing showed that the ads were 42 percent more memorable than under normal circumstances as people continued to watch more closely. This is already regularly done with auto races.

> Speaking of Smackdown, Broadcasting Cable had a list of the ten companies that spent the most money from January through last week in advertising on Smackdown as: 1) WWE Network $742,418; 2) Taco Bell $618,033; 3) Verizon $583,050; 4) The Real Cost $559,728; 4) NutriSystems $559,728; 6) Universal Pictures $536,406; 7) Domino’s $513,084; 8) Geico $443,118; 9) Burger King $396, 474; 9) Subway $396, 474. Considering USA Network would have paid about $21 million for the rights to Smackdown and the revenue from the leading advertisers was $5,348,513, it shows a big gap between the two numbers. Overall, that would under normal TV standards be considered shockingly low advertising revenue given the amount of viewers Smackdown draws.

> Lesnar’s bookings related to his 7/9 PPV show in Dallas will be a Raw return on 6/12 in Lafayette, LA, then 6/26 in Los Angeles, 7/3 in Phoenix for the go-home show and 7/10 in Houston he’ll appear on the day after.

> Former or current WWE stars had lead roles in three of the top 15 movies domestically this past weekend. “Guardians of the Galaxy 2" with Dave Bautista as one of the leads (and he got strong reviews, I thought his low-key humor was very good and he stole many scenes), was No. 1 for the second week, grossing $65,263,492 for a two weekend total of $248,420,911. It has now grossed $632.3 million worldwide. “Fate of the Furious,” with Johnson, was No. 4 at $5,400,845 and is at $215,134,775 in five weeks. So Guardians is already ahead of it for domestic gross. But Fate of the Furious was much stronger outside the U.S., and has done $1,193,237,884 worldwide as of 5/15, putting it as the 12th largest grossing movie worldwide in history. “The Wall,” with Cena as one of the lead characters, had a more limited opening doing $898,013 in 541 screens in its first weekend out, putting it in 15th place when it comes to total gross revenue and 23rd place when it comes to average revenue per screen.

> Jerry McDevitt, in a filing to get a summary judgment to get what is left of the Evan Singleton, Russ McCullough and Vito LoGrasso concussion-related lawsuits thrown out, largely based on contradicting the claims the plaintiffs lawyers wrote in the filed lawsuit, also listed regarding the idea that concussions and CTE are related wrote, “Reports of such a link remain uncertain and conflicted. Notably, the Consensus Statement from the 5th International Conference on Concussion in Sport published on April 26, 2017 states: “(a) cause-and-effect relationship has not yet been demonstrated between CTE and (sports related concussions) or exposure to contact sports. As such, the notion that repeated concussion or subconcussive impacts cause CTE remains unknown.”

> Judge Vanessa Bryant, who is presiding over the bigger case where the dozens of wrestlers including Paul Orndorff and Joe Laurinaitis were suing over the concussion issue, ordered the attorneys on both sides to meet with their clients and each other to discuss a settlement offer.

> WWE and Psyonic announced a partnership leading to the heavy push of Rocket League on all WWE platforms. Rocket League will be the lead sponsor of Backlash this week. as well as Great Balls of Fire and SummerSlam. Rocket League is an arcade style soccer crossed with vehicular mayhem type game.

> Adam “Flex” Maxted, 25,a model/bodybuilder reality show star in the U.K. from the TV show “Love Island,” a dating show on ITV 2, was among the names trying out this past week in London. A former stripper, he has wrestled on the U.K. indie scene previously and once wrestled Drew McIntyre.

> Cena is advertised for the 7/3 Smackdown TV tapings in Phoenix. He’s not advertised on the WWE website but a ticket e-mailer listed him for that show.

> I don’t know that the odds are necessarily good of anything happening from this, but there are still open lines of communication involving bringing Mauro Ranallo back. There’s a lot of water under the bridge. Even though they reached their agreement on his contract where he’s being paid until the end of the deal on 8/12 either way, there clearly is still heat since John Layfield is still blocking anyone who praises Ranallo’s announcing. He was blocking people like crazy a few weeks ago after the Joshua vs. Klitschko fight with people praising Ranallo’s commentary.

> Although at one point he was announced when ticket sales were slow, to pick up sales, Nakamura will not be going on the early June NXT U.K. tour. They had pulled him from all the promotion of the tour a couple of weeks ago.

> Aleister Black was used on the Raw European tour because he’s the only wrestler on the roster from Holland and they had a show in Rotterdam. He appeared on Main Event since he was traveling with the group and they didn’t want to put him on Raw. Being on Main Event wasn’t a sign a call-up is imminent. He mostly worked three-ways with Neville and Aries and got great reports. With his current NXT presentation, one would think he’d be a big star on the main roster, but after American Alpha and Zayn, I don’t think you can ever assume anyone for sure.

> WWE signed a TV deal in Turkey with Saran Media. They announced a multi-year deal to air edited versions of Raw and Smackdown on S-Sport. The deal started on 5/13 with S-Sport airing Raw, edited into two hours, at midnight every Saturday night, and would then air Smackdown immediately after, edited to one hour, at 2 a.m.

> The secondary market for Chicago isn’t that strong right now as price of entry for the 5/21 Backlash PPV is $56 and for NXT Takeover it’s $39.

> Some upcoming DVD releases are Seth Rollins on 5/30, Kevin Owens on 7/4, Kurt Angle on 8/1, WWE Unreleased 1985-95 of best matches not previously released on 9/5, A WWE 1997 DVD called Dawn of the Attitude Era on 10/3, and an NXT documentary called “From Secret to Success” on 12/5.

> The top ten most-watched shows on the network this past week were: 1. WWE 24 Finn Balor; 2. NXT from 5/10; 3. Payback; 4. WrestleMania 33; 5. Bring it to the Table; 6. Backlash 2016; 7. Talking Smack from 5/9; 8. 205 Live from 5/9; 9. Table for 3 with Edge, Christian and Angle; 10. NXT from 5/3.
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Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 18 May 2017 05:52:12 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5738430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738423
ROH / NJPW War of the Worlds Star Ratings
> Dalton Castle won a four-way over Silas Young, Kushida and Bobby Fish in 7:48. **3/4
> Hangman Page pinned Frankie Kazarian in 4:43. **1/2
> Ray Rowe & Hanson, the IWGP tag team champions, won a three-way non-title match over Jonathan Gresham & Chris Sabin and Seiya Sanada & Evil in 8:47. ***1/4
> Will Ospreay pinned Jay White in 13:11. ****1/2
> Bully Ray & Mark & Jay Briscoe beat Hirooki Goto & Trent Baretta & Rocky Romero to retain the ROH six-man titles in a no DQ match 12:45. ***1/2
> Marty Scurll retained the ROH TV title beating Matt Sydal in 11:24. ***1/2
> Young Bucks retained the ROH tag titles over Tetsuya Naito & Bushi in 13:35. ****
> Hiroshi Tanahashi pinned Adam Cole in 13:32. ***1/4
> Christopher Daniels retained the ROH title winning a three-way over Cody and Jay Lethal in 13:31. ***
NJPW Best of the Super Juniors Day 1 Star Ratings
> A block: Taka Michinoku pinned Jushin Liger in 8:33. ***
> B block: Volador Jr. pinned Tiger Mask in 9:48. ***1/4
> A block: Ricochet pinned Taichi in 8:56. **3/4
> B block: ACH pinned Bushi in 10:47. ***1/4
> B block: Desperado pinned Kushida in 11:43. ***1/4
> A block: Marty Scurll beat Will Ospreay in 12:11. ****1/4
> A block: Ryusuke Taguchi pinned Yoshinobu Kanemaru in 11:27. ***1/4
> A block: Dragon Lee pinned Hiromu Takahashi in 18:56. ****1/4
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Derek Sabato - Thu, 18 May 2017 06:15:36 EST ID:/s5gNX7B No.5738437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738430
Will Ospreay with the best match in both events.

Well deserved too, loved his match with Scurll, even if Scurll's over-the-top facial expressions took me out of the match at times.
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John Laurinaitis - Thu, 18 May 2017 06:16:05 EST ID:tfbhU+xH No.5738438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738423

Thanks for the newsletter, bro.

To subscribers, did they post another one of those monthly nitro recaps? I did a road trip last night while listening to the September 1995 edition and I thought that shit was super funny.
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Tina Ferrari - Thu, 18 May 2017 06:16:27 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5738439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738430
Mostly agree with those BOSJ ratings, would've put Lee/Takahashi and Desperado/Kushida a little higher though.

>>5738423
Excited too see more of my boy Flip too.
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The People - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:07:54 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.5738455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738430
> A block: Marty Scurll beat Will Ospreay in 12:11. ****1/4
> A block: Dragon Lee pinned Hiromu Takahashi in 18:56. ****1/4
Take 1/4 * off Scurll/Ospreay and add it to Lee/Hiromu and it'd be perfect.
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Paul Orndorff - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:25:53 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5738466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738430
Thank you big match Ospreay

Still sad his heel run in PROGRESS didn't last longer
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Brian Pillman - Thu, 18 May 2017 07:27:43 EST ID:lOxF1VS7 No.5738467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://pastebin.com/raw/WRy85x8i full sheet
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:09:56 EST ID:L/nYKBEK No.5738480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i hope tanahashi ges the surgery instead of maiming his perfect body
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Ernest The Cat Miller - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:36:02 EST ID:FSsKqMRN No.5738494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Hojo lost her Wonder of Stardom championship on the 5/14 show at Korakuen Hall to Miyu Iwatani with a dragon suplex. Hojo still has to lose the trios championship. Hojo was given the word that she has to come up with a new finisher. A lot of people questioned that. Hojo has the coolest looking elbow off the top rope in pro wrestling, probably the best since a young ICW-era Randy Savage. She was told that’s Bayley’s move. To those in Japan, it’s considered ridiculous because that’s the move she’s known for, but it’s a different world. Hojo would walk right into WWE as technically the best of their women wrestlers, but she’s also maybe 5-foot-1, and a lot smaller than Asuka.

Why
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:37:26 EST ID:NuiRTDNM No.5738497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738494
seriously fuck Bayley
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Tamina - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:39:19 EST ID:gf04CKB/ No.5738498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738494
>but she’s also maybe 5-foot-1, and a lot smaller than Asuka.
Isn't Alexa 4'11"?
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Evangelina - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:41:36 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5738501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738497
Why are people blaming Bayley? It's not like she demanded this.
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Paul Orndorff - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:41:53 EST ID:whVlniUC No.5738503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738430
>Liger vs TAKA that low
>Not the 2nd best match of the night after Hiromu/Lee, which also should be a half-star higher
Very close overall, though.
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Shane McMahon - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:43:04 EST ID:fOAtr2iT No.5738505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738501

Don't trust weebs to think critically.
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Paul Orndorff - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:46:30 EST ID:whVlniUC No.5738508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738505
I don't trust 90% of people that discuss niche topics on imageboards to think critically.
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Mr. Aguila - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:46:48 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5738509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738497

You do realize that has nothing to do with Bayley? It's an age old carny thing where Bayley has seniority and "dibs" on the move being hers because she was in WWE doing it before Hojo was even signed, so Hojo is the one who has to adapt since she's new and the one coming in. It may be stupid, but this has been a thing for a long time.
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Colonel Ninotchka - Thu, 18 May 2017 08:59:22 EST ID:+FTmQhFd No.5738512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738494
Look, you have to protect peoples' finishers. That's why Rollins continues to use his Phoenix Splash and superplex-Falcon Arrow combo as nearfall moves despite Rich Swann having the Phoenix Splash as his finisher and Fandango using the Falcon Arrow.
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Colonel Ninotchka - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:04:21 EST ID:+FTmQhFd No.5738516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do find it hilarious that Hojo even got on the radar of westerners (and thus WWE) because of circlejerk posting gifs of her elbow drop and then you sign her and tell her she can't use it because Bayley used it as a secondary finisher one time and thus it's "her move".
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:20:35 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5738523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738509
Hojo usually does her move to the opponent's back, and Bayley has plenty of other moves she has used as finishers for a long time that are still protected. She only just started using the elbow drop, certainly not long enough for it to belong to her.
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Mr. Aguila - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:36:20 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5738529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738523

I'm not arguing that it isn't stupid, just that this isn't a new thing, even if it's super inconsistent in the way it's implemented/enforced or whatever word you'd use.
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Psycho Clown - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:26:55 EST ID:uTwc0Gji No.5738547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I don’t know that the odds are necessarily good of anything happening from this, m but there are still open lines of communication involving bringing Mauro Ranallo back. There’s a lot of water under the bridge.

Why would he be talking with them about coming back if he was bullied SO badly to the point where it caused him to have a mental breakdown and leave the company in the first place?
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Kevin Nash - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:36:58 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5738553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738423
>Dixie Carter wrote on Instagram that she’s filming a television show. For years Carter has tried to get a reality show about her life done.

Perched for Total Dixie to be a thing
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Kagetsu - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:49:57 EST ID:Wx/DtN9D No.5738560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm most likely in the super minority with this opinion, but Hojo's Elbow drop looks more like a rib splash with her aerodynamics added.
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Kagetsu - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:49:57 EST ID:Wx/DtN9D No.5738561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm most likely in the super minority with this opinion, but Hojo's Elbow drop looks more like a rib splash with her aerodynamics added.
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Kevin Thorn - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:02:10 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5738567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738423
>Sam Adonis, the brother of Corey Graves
I didn't know that

good on Sam though
getting that piece in the AP wire services has really paid off

>>5738547
Same reason JR always comes back
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Mad Man Pondo - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:04:46 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5738571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738547
really makes you think
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Electroshock - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:22:15 EST ID:A/Kh73jl No.5738577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738547
  1. he has something to prove
  2. the money
  3. the fame
  4. the platform

probably a dozen other reasons...
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Dragonfly - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:23:58 EST ID:WMSPRgLp No.5738579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Random question but which wrestler makes the sound in Marty scurlls finger beam move
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Faby Apache - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:30:00 EST ID:pvOBAHzF No.5738581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The Cubs Fan reported that in Germany, the TV show (Lucha Underground) last week did 110,000 viewers at 11 p.m. and 80,000 at midnight in its second week on Tele-5. That’s along the lines of what the show does in the U.S., and given the population difference, I’d say that’s a good showing.

That's a damn good number for Lucha Underground. I've said it before and so have others here, but now is the time for wXw to further their relationship with LU. In fact, I think they already have, if you look at what they've done with Angelico.

With 100k viewers, I could legit see LU and wXw doing a proper cross-over show where the LU characters are finally able to be used outside of the show. That would be a big step forward IMO.
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Irwin R. Schyster - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:30:30 EST ID:H0Eha4ut No.5738582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738579
>finger beam
In all seriousness, I think Marty makes a particular click with his mouth. It's too consistent to rely on the other guy.
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Beulah McGillicutty - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:30:49 EST ID:iyI+X3j1 No.5738583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738577

5. It wasn't as bad as gossip led us to believe
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Tatanka - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:33:53 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5738588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738583
I'm pretty sure it was that bad, but WWE swept it under the rug before it gained any traction as a mainstream story and Mauro, being the professional he is, probably sat down with JBL to talk it over.
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Mad Man Pondo - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:36:05 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5738590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738583
yup, especially since Meltz is still pulling the "the story will come out eventually" thing like two months after he was pushing it relentlessly
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Irwin R. Schyster - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:37:35 EST ID:H0Eha4ut No.5738593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738581
This. wXw drew the largest non-WWE crowd in Germany in 15 fucking years off a show built around LU talent. Latching onto LU as it takes off on Germany is smart. Putting their midcard belt on Angelico as Season 1 airs in Germany is a perfect idea since he shines in that season the most.
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Godiva - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:49:17 EST ID:j6Suq8Ay No.5738602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738579
Marty does, he slaps his arms down against his sides
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Scott Parker - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:54:57 EST ID:tWNTajNV No.5738612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738588
Dave said that even with the settlement, the real story was gonna come out, it has yet to come out and now he's reporting that Mauro maybe coming back. Perhaps Dave just overblew the story for hits
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Mad Man Pondo - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:01:40 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5738622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
imagine WWE or Mauro being stupid enough to do all this over again if the situation was even 10% as toxic as Mauro's friends in the media were making it out to be
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Kevin Thorn - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:23:02 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5738656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So considering the humiliating shit they've had JR do when he crawled back in the past what will they have Mario do?
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Shelton Benjamin - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:01:06 EST ID:AgE2/m0q No.5738692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738656
Probably pretend being a Swedish plumber.
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:06:10 EST ID:DbLJ4dX6 No.5738703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738656
calling it now, we'll hear about how it was JR himself who convinced Mauro to return.
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Sabu - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:41:34 EST ID:cFbZ7ETZ No.5738746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738590
Maybe story died because there was lines open whit titan and Mauro, if there had been huge shitstorm Mauro wouldn't never get second chance.
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C.W. Anderson - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:11:34 EST ID:/0tK5gxd No.5738777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738746
>titan

Alright, alright, I got a chuckle out of that.
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Abdullah the Butcher - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:21:47 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5738787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738777

thanks for letting us know
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Brian Pillman - Thu, 18 May 2017 15:07:20 EST ID:lOxF1VS7 No.5738832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wrestling Observer Live is airing in http://taima.tv/r/woooalt NOW!
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Lin Bairon - Thu, 18 May 2017 15:23:26 EST ID:ETtCWe5w No.5738846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I'm listening to today's wor and

>Honma is jogging now

what the shit
That's a hell of a recovery.
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Kevin Steen - Thu, 18 May 2017 15:36:44 EST ID:81xBap/p No.5738859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738846
Whats next, Shibata winning a chess match?
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Brian Pillman - Thu, 18 May 2017 15:46:22 EST ID:Tu+e99/Q No.5738870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738859
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STIGMA - Thu, 18 May 2017 15:58:52 EST ID:UVrFxk8X No.5738885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738859
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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:01:10 EST ID:NuiRTDNM No.5738888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738501
I'm not blaming Bayley I just don't like her gimmick and her cringe as fuck fanboys.
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The Iron Shiek - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:02:10 EST ID:oufryKx0 No.5738891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738859
I like you.
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Hector Guerrero - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:13:52 EST ID:/sTNnFdh No.5738896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738612
Nah, worse shit has happened in WWE in the past. Like the shit Bill DeMott got away with for ages before mysteriously quitting.
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dognut - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:31:52 EST ID:o/++Ro0w No.5738912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where's ma nigga Eric Andre with the WOR hookup
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Murphy - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:36:42 EST ID:2V8pblQL No.5738917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No news on Shibata yet?
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CM Punk - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:38:36 EST ID:sd2tEGQy No.5738921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738888

Legit:

With Bayley and Xavier Woods* WWE have locked down the market on both white and black pedophiles.

>*Never forget he has the only known case of BLACK PEDOFACE this side of Timbuktu.
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:39:10 EST ID:oNUG40dn No.5738923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738912
if you slip and you fall i got you my nigga hold on
BOSJ, previews, news and more on wor
http://kiwi6.com/file/l9oxudrdz2
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Scott Parker - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:39:25 EST ID:uC72kSHq No.5738924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738917
I heard he was doing better than expected but no idea where the news is from. Could have just been bullshit.
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Simon Dean - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:39:41 EST ID:PhJTqAmM No.5738925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738912
This
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Simon Dean - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:41:32 EST ID:PhJTqAmM No.5738926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738923
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Kaz Hayashi - Thu, 18 May 2017 17:40:43 EST ID:d6ZApn0S No.5738952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone have the SD WOR?
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Scott Norton - Thu, 18 May 2017 17:50:52 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.5738967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5738923
>Dave not wanting to see Tana's physique with only one bicep

spoken like a true bodybuilder. You can hear his heartreak.
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Superstar Billy Graham - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:42:53 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5739096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738590

Look up what gag orders are.
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Hydra - Thu, 18 May 2017 21:27:27 EST ID:0rczBfU4 No.5739181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Source: www.njpw1972.com/8322

>May 16 saw Takaaki Kidani, the owner of New Japan Pro-Wrestling, appear in Tokyo to discuss NJPW’s future business plans.

>Kidani’s talk followed an announcement from New Japan’s medical staff about the injuries sustained by Katsuyori Shibata and Tomoaki Honma. In regards to the health and safety of NJPW talent, Kidani stated that he wanted to ‘closely re-examine everything’.

>New Japan’s sales have consistently increased annually since 2012, and the trend is set to continue in 2017. NJPW is projecting sales of 3.7 billion Yen (roughly 32.6 million USD) for their 2017 reporting period. New Japan is projecting sales of 4.5 billion Yen for 2018, with a goal of 5 billion. Kidani hopes to ‘maximize the earning potential’ of each wrestler on the New Japan roster, while reducing their dates in order to conserve health.

>As talk turned to America, Kidani touched on the differences in business between New Japan, and the market leader, WWE. In terms of merchandise sales, Kidani said that New Japan’s numbers are around ‘a fifth to a quarter’ of WWE’s, but that in the realm of digital goods and distribution, things are not even close.



>As a result, Kidani announced three major tentpoles of New Japan’s business in the near future. These consisted of:

● Live strategy
● Digital strategy
● Global strategy

>First, Kidani talked about the company’s live strategy, and announced a long term goal of a full house at the Tokyo Dome by 2020. He cited NJPW’s traditional January 4th Tokyo Dome show falling on a Saturday that year as a big opportunity. Said Kidani, ‘We want 40-45,000 tickets sold. A sold number of over 40,000 is something we can call a full house.’ Kidani also stated that due to increased media exposure and active promotion, live houses in venues across the country have improved.



>On a related note, Kidani commented on last year’s Buddyfight commercial starring Kazuchika Okada and Milla Jovovich. ‘Lots of people asked why I we did that- it was mainly out of frustration at a lot of our guys moving to America,’ he glibly remarked, before stating the commercial was a direct appeal to America in general and Hollywood in particular.

>Next was discussion of a digital roadmap, and a goal of 100,000 subscribers to the NJPW World service, which would make it Japan’s largest streaming distribution service. Of the 50,000 current subscribers to NJPW World, 10,000 are outside Japan. This in addition to 200,000 weekly viewers of New Japan’s AXS TV show in the States.

>New Japan World received a site update on May 16, and in the next few days, viewers will be more easily able to access NJPW World through Chromecast and Amazon Fire TV.

>Kidani also declared an intention to increase live streamed shows, not just from New Japan itself, but global partners in the form of Ring of Honor, Revolution Pro, and CMLL. There is also a desire to increase the archive content on the World site, and Kidani would like feedback from fans on what kind of original programming they’d like to see on the service. Kidani also pointed to May 17th’s free airing of the Best of the Super Junior tournament opening show as a chance to appeal to new users.

>The third tentpole was global strategy, and New Japan’s advance into America. Both Los Angeles G1 Special cards on July 1st and 2nd sold out in the span of two hours. Due to fan demand, extra seating was made available, and these tickets sold out in two minutes. To give an idea of the size of the Long Beach Convention Center to the Japanese media, Kidani likened it to the Ota Gymnasium, and surmised that ‘personally, I think we can run in buildings twice that size’.

>In terms of longer term strategy in the US, Kidani talked about plans to start a functioning US subsidiary next year, as well as a dojo based in America, and the IWGP US title announced at ROH’s War of the Worlds event this past weekend.

>In analysing NJPW’s prospects in the US, Kidani stated that the company’s unique strengths are ‘presenting the best in ring wrestling in the world, a long history, and an original product not available anywhere else.’ Kidani also stated a desire to sell American cable networks on NJPW content.

>With this mindset, Kidani stated he wanted the New Japan product to be presented ‘as is’ to American fans, giving them a unique experience. In regards to developing new stars, he said that we live in an era where ‘stars can be born in an instant’. With the goal of growing American business, Kidani talked about working with American promotions in order to nurture new talent, and bringing a Japanese style of touring promotion to a US territory.

>In closing, Kidani said that it’s his goal to expose new, broader audiences to the joys of New Japan, while also taking greater care of the talent involved. It was a strong statement of intent for a company approaching a new stage in its 45 year history.
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:13:14 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5739200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On the topic of New Japan, they also had a press conference today regarding the Long Beach shows in July. It was announced that AXS would be showing both shows, with the 7/1 show airing live, and the 7/2 show siring on 7/7 with the live showing being on New Japan World. The Heavyweight, Intercontinental, Tag Team, and Junior Tag team titles will be defended, in addition to the tourney to crown the first US Champion. They also announced talent that would be appearing. They were broken up into the following groups:

NJPW:
>Hiroshi Tanahashi
>Michael Elgin
>KUSHIDA
>Jushin Liger
>David Finlay
>Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu
>Jay White
>Billy Gunn(!)
>Yoshitatsu

CHAOS:
>Okada
>Tomohiro Ishii
>Will Ospreay
>Roppongi Vice

LIJ:
>Naito
>Hiromu Takahashi
>EVIL
>SANADA
>BUSHI

Suzukigun:
>Zack Sabre Jr. (yep that's it)

ROH:
>Jay Lethal
>The Briscoes
>War Machine

CMLL:
>Dragon Lee
>Volador Jr.
>Titan

Bullet Club:
>Kenny Omega (so much for that visa excuse lol)
>The Young Bucks
>Cody
>Marty Scurll
>Bad Luck Fale
>Hangman Page
>Guerillas of Destiny
>Yujiro Takahashi

http://www.f4wonline.com/japan/njpw-announces-broadcast-plans-and-roster-long-beach-shows-235786
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Rich Swann - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:19:23 EST ID:fTu2cHlj No.5739205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
>No Suzuki beating young lion asses in front of an American audience

GOD DAMMIT
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Kimona Wanaleya - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:22:27 EST ID:IeUt7m7G No.5739210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739200
>Kenny Omega (so much for that visa excuse lol)
>people acting surprised when the modern Shawn Michaels does Shawn Michaels things
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:26:37 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5739216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
I was really wondering what they would do to make these shows different from the ROH/New Japan shows that there have been 8000 of over the years.

The answer to that is Billy Gunn, apparently.
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She Nay Nay - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:29:27 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5739218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739216
I was expecting the difference to be was more of the undercard and Suzuki gun but apparently it's just the ROH/NJPW shows but a level or two better with some mexicans and billy gunn
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:45:37 EST ID:tarI869j No.5739225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
Looks like Chase Owens didn't make the cut. I mean it's the kind of roster you'd see for War of the Worlds as I would have expected more members of Suzuki-gun on the show or more CHAOS members like Yano, Goto and YOSHI-HASHI.

Also a note on the 7/1 show, that's airing live exclusively on AXS TV so you can't watch it on NJPW World in the US. Not surprised AXS aren't also showing the 7/2 show live but Impact Slammiversary is on at the same time so it makes sense to just show it on NJPW World and split the live US coverage. In any case, we'll replay the 7/2 show on AXS in the usual NJPW on AXS TV slot after Impact Wrestling on 7/13.
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:48:12 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5739226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
Oh I accidentally left out Juice Robinson by the way. Just noticed cause I was wondering if they really left him out of the talent lineup nb
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Rey Mysterio - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:59:30 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5739232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Tommaso Ciampa of DIY was reportedly injured at tonight's NXT live event in Highland Heights, KY.

>Ciampa and his partner, Johnny Gargano, were facing Sanity at the show. A few minutes into the match, Ciampa dived off the ring apron onto Sanity and hurt his left leg. The match was quickly stopped and ruled a no-contest. An upset Ciampa hopped to the back yelling, "get me the f--k out of here."

>Ciampa and Gargano were scheduled to face NXT Tag Team Champions The Authors of Pain for the titles at NXT: Takeover this Saturday.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0518/626321/breaking-former-nxt-title-holder-reportedly-injured-at-live-event/
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Ivan Koloff - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:04:00 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5739237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739232
That fucking sucks, i was looking forward to the ladder match.
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Icarus - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:06:46 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5739238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739232

NOT LIKE THIS
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Leilani Kai - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:07:47 EST ID:fsP6GEi3 No.5739239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739237
Crossing fingers for just a stinger that caused them to stop the match preciselly to protect the ladder match.
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RJ Brewer - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:15:09 EST ID:gf04CKB/ No.5739243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739232
Who the fuck is the agent that said for Ciampa to do a dive in the a fucking house show match?
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Rizokahn - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:17:07 EST ID:6Ft6Eqf+ No.5739247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
>No Taguchi
Why?!
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Bob Sapp - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:17:12 EST ID:CmUXA6O2 No.5739248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739232
There goes all my hype
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Mitch - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:21:15 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5739250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
>(so much for that visa excuse lol)

so what the fuck is going on with Omega and ROH and Meltzer?
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Yoshi Tatsu - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:24:46 EST ID:0qPMlM4B No.5739253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The real question is why the hell are they doing a house show 2 days before the PPV
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dognut - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:26:58 EST ID:Ybeujcgw No.5739258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738923
Thank you based giant ball man
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CM Punk - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:32:49 EST ID:xI3dUSU6 No.5739260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
Well at least the white people can't butcher Minoru Suzuki's entrance.
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Dale Oliver - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:50:57 EST ID:lVsoHCj+ No.5739268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739253

To make money, mark.

They have house shows before Mania too
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Averno - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:51:57 EST ID:Qf9wJkF5 No.5739269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
.A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CDT
FOR EAST CENTRAL WYANDOTTE...NORTHEASTERN JOHNSON...NORTHWESTERN
CASS...CLAY...WEST CENTRAL RAY...SOUTHEASTERN PLATTE AND JACKSON
COUNTIES...

At 1037 PM CDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line
extending from near Smithville to Liberty to near Lee`s Summit,
moving northeast at 55 mph.
HAZARD...70 mph wind gusts.
SOURCE...Radar indicated.
IMPACT...Expect considerable tree damage. Damage is likely to mobile
homes, roofs, and outbuildings.
Locations impacted include...
Kansas City, Overland Park, Independence, Lee`s Summit, Blue Springs,
Leawood, Raytown, Liberty, Gladstone, Grandview, Belton, Prairie
Village, Raymore, Grain Valley, Excelsior Springs, Mission,
Smithville, Kearney, Oak Grove and Greenwood.
HAIL...<.75IN
WIND...70MPH
Instructions: For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building.
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Andre the 3000 - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:53:18 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5739272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739269
NJ is that you?
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Sherri Martel - Fri, 19 May 2017 00:19:17 EST ID:S1R2ex0Z No.5739290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WWE and Psyonic announced a partnership leading to the heavy push of Rocket League on all WWE platforms. Rocket League will be the lead sponsor of Backlash this week. as well as Great Balls of Fire and SummerSlam
Goddmmit. I am already sick of hearing them say "available on Steam PC". Just say "for PC on Steam" or something. "Steam PC" sounds retarded.
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Prince - Fri, 19 May 2017 00:48:18 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5739309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739290
I've heard them say "available on streaming PC' a few times now.
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Fri, 19 May 2017 04:47:37 EST ID:oNUG40dn No.5739381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BVG is free this week, so get on that good thing. WOL was also free and a pretty funny ep if only for Semp.
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 05:32:33 EST ID:3/MWHQap No.5739389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739290
You just know that they got sent a statement for what to say during the plug, and it said something like "available on Steam (PC)", and because no one who works for WWE management is under 50 they just had them read the whole thing.
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Aurora Rose Levesque - Fri, 19 May 2017 05:32:52 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5739390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739290

Steam PC's are still a thing, aren't they? I mean those pre-built computers with SteamOS installed on them. Valve likely gets a nice cut of the sale for any Steam PC's.
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Muscle Sakai - Fri, 19 May 2017 06:19:17 EST ID:2Youmaxo No.5739406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739390
And then someone like Cory or Tom Phillips says that people will know what they mean when they just say "PC" and Vince replies, "Just say the line goddamnit, I need another steak wrap not a burrito ACHOOO!".
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Damien 666 - Fri, 19 May 2017 06:23:01 EST ID:cIeVbfS4 No.5739407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739269
The storm was a bitch, but the best part is the sirens up here in the Northland went off because some old lady literally called the fire department and swore she saw a tornado.
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John Laurinaitis - Fri, 19 May 2017 06:33:43 EST ID:pvOBAHzF No.5739411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739232
NXT looks PACKED lol.
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ODB - Fri, 19 May 2017 08:13:57 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5739441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It would be cool to see Suzuki, KES, Taichi, TAKA, Iizuka (just to see white people react to his entrance), Kojima, Taguchi, Goto, Yano and Makabe. Not having any of their comedy characters is a strange decision.
Cool to see all of LIJ coming. So much for all titles to be defended at the shows, as Suzuki is not there. Tempura Boyz is a nice surprise.
Also I hope Yujiro finds some Long Beach slootz to bring to the ring.
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The Mantaur - Fri, 19 May 2017 08:17:52 EST ID:B8HpQuEi No.5739443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739441
Coming from someone who has seen numerous NJPW shows live this year, suzuki gun not coming is a blessing.
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Maryse - Fri, 19 May 2017 08:46:30 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5739456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739232
>That crowd

Lmao, WWE still booking arenas way too big for them
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Hikari Minami - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:09:02 EST ID:uC72kSHq No.5739475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739411
Oh I'm sorry, how's your territory doing? Going to sign all your favourites to NXT soon, kid.
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CRAPCOM !SNGay1lkXQ - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:12:07 EST ID:FIeM+sk4 No.5739481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739475
>Oh I'm sorry, how's your territory doing?
About as good as the Raw ratings.
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Maryse - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:16:34 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5739484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739475
>Oh I'm sorry, how's your territory doing?

Probably getting better crowds than that
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123 Kid - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:22:48 EST ID:Ggv4BDmZ No.5739487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739232
>A few minutes into the match, Ciampa dived off the ring apron onto Sanity and hurt his left leg.
>Ciampa dived off the ring apron
>...dive
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Lady Apache - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:28:13 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5739489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739475
>sign all your favourites to NXT
I doubt it tbh.
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Portia Perez - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:31:05 EST ID:x7Y5xqjS No.5739494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739475
>getting off to nxt turning good wrestlers into meh sports entertainers
Hahahahahaha get a load of this retard.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:32:12 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739487
>EvolvingWhores.png
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:42:09 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739494
I've outright stopped caring about WWE this past month but I can symathize with him. I'm more into wrestling for the overall narrative than the match-by-match quality, and like it or not succeeding in WWE despite all the hurdles is a crowning achievement.
For example: I like Cesaro, and I'd much rather see him stay in WWE until he wins the WWE Title than I would see him quit tomorrow & go wrestle 5* matches in NJPW. He's already proven he can have great matches, I'm emotionally invested in seeing him prove himself right here. I'd understand if he gave up, but it'd still be disappointing.
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Maryse - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:45:05 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5739503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739500
>getting beaten down and worked so hard that you'd rather see a guy earn more money than you enjoying a better product

Wew.

Would you rather actors stop making good films and just focus on Transformers/Avatar/Fast and the Furious instead too?
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:50:33 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739503
>better product
Wrestling's not just wrestling, you realize. I love Evolve but when you factor in PRODUCTion they haven't got shit on the 'E.
Also to me "good film" means "MCU" so you're barking up the wrong tree there.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:54:39 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739507
*usually means
wouldn't want to give the wrong impression
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Jack Swagger - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:00:34 EST ID:XUoJju26 No.5739516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739507
Would you argue WWE does more for Cesaro than Cesaro does for WWE?
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DJ Gabriel - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:05:21 EST ID:ImHym8BK No.5739521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739507
>I also like shit movies to go with my shit wrestling
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Portia Perez - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:19:43 EST ID:x7Y5xqjS No.5739530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739507
So you like your garbage in high definition. Understood.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:22:21 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739521
>I've outright stopped caring about WWE
sheath the teeth senpai
>>5739516
Good question, I appreciate the formality. Unfortunately I don't have an answer, it's not something I've thought about in depth and blurting one out would be insincere.
On the one hand they provide him with wider name recognition. It's not like he's Tyler Reks, he's gotten title runs & memorable angles out of it. But on the other my investment here starts & ends with Cesaro himself, so to me personally he's helping them. His presence in WWE makes me care a little about WWE, and he's publicly expressed unfulfilled aspirations there specifically so there's that slight bit more vicarious attachment.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:25:13 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739530
I desperately want to start smugposting but it's not really the place. Wanna hop over to /mtv/ so we can talk about movies there?
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:29:42 EST ID:baqex0mh No.5739541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739507
>Also to me "good film" means "MCU"
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Maryse - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:33:23 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5739545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739507
What is it about WWE's production values that makes it worth it? Is it Kevin Dunn's quick cuts every 0.3 seconds, the shaky cam?

Honestly the productions values are decent enough at most large indies now that I don't even care about it
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:35:49 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739535
Nah I said my piece.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:54:15 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739545
Dude.
MCUfag.
>cinematography
>>5739548
k <3
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:12:30 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
shoutout to this dude for not being a cunt about stuff he likes getting shit on. This place has been real sensitive lately and this is a breath of fresh air.

nb
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Scott D'Amore - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:20:02 EST ID:dN0wuOYf No.5739580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739232
>all those empty seats
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:34:15 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739507
LU has legitimately better production than WWE.
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Dude Love - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:39:44 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5739606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739232

why does NXT do house shows anyway? are they really turning a profit with like 200 tops ppl in the building?

Its not like NXT has THAT much national exposure, and they always go to these tiny markets, not even the cities where lots of smarks might be.

Why not just let these guys stay in Orlando working out and prepping for Takeover instead of also putting them on a travel schedule and getting hurt a couple days before the big show?
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:43:35 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739606
It's pretty well known that WWE actually loses money running NXT.

The house shows are to get people not ready for TV and even the ones already on TV practice and experience. They usually only do three date tours anyways, nothing wild. I think house shows also serve the purpose of NXT LARPing as an actual indie fed.
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:56:54 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739606
To further expand on what >>5739609 said, different tours (or sometimes even different shows on the same tour) will have the undercard acts that haven't been solidly established on TV alternate between face and heel to gauge which role they suit better.
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Hikari Minami - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:14:57 EST ID:uC72kSHq No.5739639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739606
House shows are where the developmental talent actually gets to develop and learn.
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Dude Love - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:17:37 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5739640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739639

what a system where developmental guys have to leave the Developmental territory to develop because the developmental territory is too full of indy darlings.
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CRAPCOM !SNGay1lkXQ - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:23:55 EST ID:FIeM+sk4 No.5739653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739640
well you see-uh, we have to-uh teach them-uh, how to work the hard camer-uh, because most of these guys-uh, have never worked on TV-uh
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:25:11 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739640
This is hardly a new thing, it's not like OVW put total greenhorns on TV and let them fend for themselves.
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Randy Orton - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:29:37 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5739663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739656

OVW never traveled very far outside of Louisville though, and it was back when people weren't doing dives every match and those dudes were taking things real easy. (as a Louisville native I followed OVW pretty close when it was the farm)
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Lance Storm - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:34:34 EST ID:HU3mshxY No.5739677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739507
Production costs at WWE are high. The actual production value is awful.

Look at any backstage segment in the last year.... How many have actually looked good? Performers standing sideways looking at a TV in front of a curtain....WWE may put there money into fireworks pyro,the occasional setpiece and giant screens....but skimp just about everywhere else.

Iv said it before,but WWE has all the money in the world that could be used to make their shows look good,but try their best to minimise how much they have to spend,whereas a Lucha Underground has nowhere near as much,yet strive to get the absolute most out of every cent put into their shows.
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Maryse - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:37:03 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5739683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739640
NXT is just an ego project for HHH and a way to trick smarks into thinking HHH will "save WWE" when Vince is gone

Sadly, it's working
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:37:44 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739677
Pay attention to somebody during their entrance when they're in front of the 'Tron, the LEDs make the image look so saturated and gaudy.
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Mitch - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:39:36 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5739686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739677
>WWE may put there money into fireworks pyro,the occasional setpiece and giant screens

except they're actually cutting back on those expenses too

its been well documented in their financial reports that they're literally cutting back on the production team's transportation resources & budget while refusing to scale back Vince and Stephanie and Hunter's personal jet expenses
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:39:43 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739572
nb
>>5739595
In most aspects, totally. Not everything.
I ain't gonna nitpick tho, add it all up and LU's the far better product IMO.
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Yoshi Tatsu - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:41:46 EST ID:0qPMlM4B No.5739690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739268
They have the week off of wrestling prior to mania where they do Axxess signings and interviews. The low card guys who are replaceable do the wrestling.
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:44:00 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739683
Well, it's not like he could make it worse...
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Tommy Dreamer - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:02:29 EST ID:kMpYWicS No.5739727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
I have tickets and I'm disappointed to hear that half of CHAOS and almost all of Suzukigun are staying home, was looking forward to seeing Goto, YOSHI-HASHI, Suzuki, TAKA, and Desperado.

Glad to hear Tempura Boys are coming, I'm a fan of theirs

I just hope most of LIJ's matches are on the show I'm at, I want to see Sanada and/or EVIL at the meet'n'greet.
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Tatanka - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:10:02 EST ID:UDcJBMOf No.5739739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739216
>>5739218
>>5739225
>7 of the 40 listed are ROH guys (including the Bucks who are more NJPW guys)
>ROH show
k
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DJ Gabriel - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:12:39 EST ID:ImHym8BK No.5739740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739727
All the talent should wrestle on both. Just half will be in lowercard tag matches for each one.
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:15:59 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739200
TAKA seems like an odd exception considering he worked the States for what seems like a half-decade.
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:18:51 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Genuinely bummed about no Suzuki-Gun besides Sabre.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:29:03 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739683
>>5739695
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:41:49 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739759
He's re-pushing The Ascension?
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Arik Cannon - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:43:04 EST ID:HPiyY3My No.5739783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739780
I would actually love if he did
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Jack Swagger - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:49:44 EST ID:XUoJju26 No.5739795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739780
As Anna and Elsa apparently.
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Jamie Noble - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:50:41 EST ID:QnkdvqEy No.5739797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739795
I was thinking more along the lines of Glacier.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:50:52 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5739780
I was waiting on time-travelers but that punchline's too fucking good.
Nice job.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:53:00 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5739801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5739795
>Ascension
>heat
You're over-complicating the joke.
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Krazy K - Fri, 19 May 2017 15:08:37 EST ID:lOxF1VS7 No.5739888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738832
today and moving forward Wrestling Observer Live will air in http://taima.tv/r/wooo2
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Sun, 21 May 2017 05:36:33 EST ID:R9wrW3tt No.5741586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wor with takeover, bosj, ultimo guererros car and more
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Brooklyn Brawler - Sun, 21 May 2017 06:23:52 EST ID:AgE2/m0q No.5741605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741586
Just in case anyone was hoping Dave would have more information about the Ultimo Guerrero incident, he's pretty much reading out the cubsfan writeup about it (without giving credit as always).
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Violent J - Sun, 21 May 2017 06:40:54 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5741608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741586
u da man andrade "hammer" almas
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Major Tanya - Sun, 21 May 2017 07:49:48 EST ID:Hk5OnDae No.5741628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741586
>the discussion about promises
I cannot tell if that was a joke or just dave being dave
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Linda McMahon - Sun, 21 May 2017 08:42:53 EST ID:EDXAykdo No.5741654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741628
Some weird oldchool wrestling stuff maybe? Dunno, maybe someone with more knowledge will tell us.
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Archibald Peck - Sun, 21 May 2017 08:49:42 EST ID:d6ZApn0S No.5741658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Smackdown WOR out yet?
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Greg The Hammer Valentine - Sun, 21 May 2017 08:52:17 EST ID:2Youmaxo No.5741661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741586
that's a rare dustin
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Major Tanya - Sun, 21 May 2017 08:52:27 EST ID:Hk5OnDae No.5741662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741658
It will be at the end of the last dirtsheets thread if they made one (I genuinely don't remember if they did)
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Sun, 21 May 2017 09:21:02 EST ID:oNUG40dn No.5741687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741658

>>5738923
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Archibald Peck - Sun, 21 May 2017 09:22:47 EST ID:d6ZApn0S No.5741688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741662
>>5741687
sknahT
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Disco Inferno - Sun, 21 May 2017 09:48:47 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5741707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741586
>Bryan: "I'm telling you this is what they will say"
>Dave: "Oh I don't care what they say, I'm just trying to live in reality"

Sassy Dave is best Dave.
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Earthquake - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:17:54 EST ID:/In2L8I3 No.5741989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>KENTA had a great match
>it was a really good match
in what universe tbh? that was a thoroughly mediocre raw midcard match
his WWE career has been trash
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Jigsaw - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:29:35 EST ID:xS/SPXZ3 No.5742015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741989
It had a lot of good selling which Bryan and Meltzer both mark pretty hard for.
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Superstar Billy Graham - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:31:03 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5742017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741989
It was very bland by the numbers WWE wrestling but I tend to expect that from Roode at this point
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John Nord - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:39:24 EST ID:IlXp8WAw No.5742034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742015
then why do they like omega
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Naomi - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:51:28 EST ID:2EckhCqk No.5742064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741989
Not that it means anything but it was way better than last takeovers roode/nakamura
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Sarita - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:21:29 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5742106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Didn't Meltz himself say the WWE was talking to Anthem about licensing the Broken trademark?
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Austin Aries - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:26:33 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5742112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742106
Hahaha holy shit Matt get this bitch one of those candy phones for little kids, fill it with her pill of choice and get her the fuck off the internet
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Colt Cabana - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:30:01 EST ID:FSEFQsC5 No.5742117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742106
Which is more likely?
Meltz or ALL CAPS Reby Hardliquoreplease.
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Acid Jaz - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:35:05 EST ID:Tlg9gWny No.5742122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741989

Disagree, I'm with Bryan and Dave on this one. Fantastic selling, great psychology that built to a clever finish, really hype last five minutes which had the crowd invested - the only fault I had with it was Hideo being rusty and mistiming a couple spots. That being said, I understand it's not the kind of match most people want to see, as Dave said at the start of the show the 'indy style' is what's over right now and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.
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Matt Striker - Sun, 21 May 2017 16:06:04 EST ID:aOtE6y5m No.5742155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742122
>That being said, I understand it's not the kind of match most people want to see, as Dave said at the start of the show the 'indy style' is what's over right now and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.

The way I see it, is that wrestling crowds are becoming more and more polarized (a lot like the rest of society at the moment, really). Up until recently, you had your crowd that likes flips and high spots, and your crowd that likes psychology and story-telling, with some overlap. It's generally no longer the case that each camp doesn't want to see the other style - now, each camp actively wants to NOT see the other style, altogether. It's a subtle distinction, but a crucial one. The divide isn't solidified and absolute yet, but things are definitely drifting in that direction, and it's gonna be a challenge for the industry as a whole.
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Damien 666 - Sun, 21 May 2017 16:34:32 EST ID:Od0NnntN No.5742193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742155
At least everybody with taste will agree on HOSS FIGHTS between BIG BOIS being good stuff.
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Freehaven !zWb42fBPMM - Sun, 21 May 2017 16:37:53 EST ID:fFbHMKlg No.5742199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742193

My gold standard for HOSS FIGHTS remains that Sheamus vs Mark Henry match from SummerSlam a few years back. Shit was a fucking masterclass in HOSS FIGHTAN.
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Otto Schwanz - Sun, 21 May 2017 18:42:24 EST ID:Ggv4BDmZ No.5742309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Immediately after losing to Finn Balor in their first-ever matchup last summer, Roman Reigns said he wanted another opportunity against him. He got it on Raw last Monday in the first of three Kurt Angle-mandated matches among Extreme Rules’ Fatal 5-Way competitors and Reigns avenged his nearly year-old loss by defeating Bálor.

On commentary, there were a few references to Balor facing the much larger Reigns. That all came from Vince McMahon, who directed the announce team to point out his lack of size.

>McMahon now realizes Balor’s size or lack thereof is going to have to play into his role in WWE since most of the company’s wrestlers are bigger than him.

>Billed at 5’11” and 190 pounds by WWE, Balor will often be the smallest wrestler in the ring since he’s not in the Cruiserweight division. However, even those numbers are exaggerated.

>Balor has said in the past that his weight is usually between 178 and 181 pounds. Furthermore, the average guess of his real height by CelebHeights.com users is 5’9″.

>The billed heights of WWE stars are often inflated by two inches, so Balor’s real height being 5’9″ is probably true.
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Chris Harris - Sun, 21 May 2017 18:52:07 EST ID:6PK9xuRu No.5742325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742309
I like David and Goliath matches, so fuck yeah make Finn's size play a role in his matches so it has at least some story in his matches.
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Damien 666 - Sun, 21 May 2017 18:54:43 EST ID:Od0NnntN No.5742328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742309
No issue with this. If they're serious about pushing Finn as a top guy, playing up the size difference will only make him more endearing. It played a big role in his match with Roman last week, and that match was great.
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DJ Skittlez - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:14:07 EST ID:LHfF2xDu No.5742344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5741586
>bryan "1970 house show opening match" alverez hates open stiff open palm strikes too

colour me surprised
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Eddie Kingston - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:42:04 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5742367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742309
Wheres this coming from though
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Amazing Red - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:12:08 EST ID:yp1tt63r No.5742414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5741586
Curious question but did Dave attend the PWG show on Friday?
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Johnny Kidd - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:14:05 EST ID:Lg3wil+R No.5742420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742414
no he got banned for bringing in food from home and sharing it.
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Randy Orton - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:28:56 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5742445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742420

really?
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Naruki Doi - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:59:56 EST ID:pO2v0kua No.5742523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742445
Yup. I can confirm. You can't do that in California, it'll get you banned faster than smoking in the building. It was a bag of In-n-Out.

I don't know.
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Miss Elizabeth - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:04:37 EST ID:RYqvnuzX No.5742530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742445
Jesus. He had to cancel cuz he had something to do with UFC, which ended up falling through anyway.
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Randy Orton - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:12:46 EST ID:bnhgY3kj No.5742556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742523

fucking freedom hating liberals

sarcasm
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Tsukushi - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:21:55 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5742587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742445
no
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Pitbull - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:35:27 EST ID:UDcJBMOf No.5742604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742445
no but one time Max Landis bought pizza for everyone at a pwg show and legion hall Larry told him to fuck off and wouldn't let anyone have the pizza
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Rizokahn - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:40:06 EST ID:6Ft6Eqf+ No.5742610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5741586
>Dave saying "How big is Batista's dick?"
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Lucky Cannon - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:46:39 EST ID:j4GxTK0A No.5742616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742604

To be fair Max Landis is a giant faggot so good on Legion Larry
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Triple H - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:47:47 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5742619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742616
>hating on free pizza
Dude wtf
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Naruki Doi - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:54:17 EST ID:pO2v0kua No.5742622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742619
Is it Little Caesar's Hot and Ready? Then yeah, fuck free pizza. Throw that shit in the garbage.
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Johnny Kidd - Sun, 21 May 2017 22:14:06 EST ID:Lg3wil+R No.5742657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742622
please stop trying to have a pizza thread
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TheMan !gIEBRtSzPE - Sun, 21 May 2017 22:16:36 EST ID:lrulgBwe No.5742662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5742657
best frozen Pizza?
Best frozen Pizza
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Trent Barreta - Sun, 21 May 2017 22:19:03 EST ID:e6nwNMod No.5742664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5742619
FREE FUCKING PIZZA
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Virgil - Sun, 21 May 2017 23:05:20 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5742878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742662

Man, I miss sauce-stuffed Freschetta pizza. I miss the days when Freschetta was good in general, really. Sucks they got bought out by Schwanns and is now just literally Tony's Pizza being sold at a higher price.
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Why Vince McMahon Doesn’t Value Sasha Banks As A Top WWE Superstar - Sun, 21 May 2017 23:08:08 EST ID:eEfe/gT0 No.5742894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738423
It’s being reported by All Wrestling News that Vince McMahon isn’t as high on The Boss as a lot of others are within the company. Her connection with the fans is clear to him, but Vince feels that she has become very injury prone and that’s holding her back from some opportunities.
There is no doubt that Sasha Banks has had her share of injuries and back issues over the past year, but McMahon is taking them seriously. The belief is she can’t be trusted to hold a title for a long reign, which is why she’s a three-time champion without a successful title defense.
Her role in the midcard is a result of being put on the back burner until she can prove that she can be relied on for a top role in the women’s division
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Juventud Guerrera - Sun, 21 May 2017 23:15:13 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5742927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5742619
Depends where it came from
But fuck Max Landis
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Johnny Curtis - Mon, 22 May 2017 00:47:12 EST ID:6owrY1K2 No.5743155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've got to hear Bryan and Dave's take on Backlash.
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Mon, 22 May 2017 00:50:30 EST ID:R9wrW3tt No.5743160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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B&V&F
Bryan, Vinny and FILTHY talk Backlash, GotW and BV talk Takeover too. Should be a blast.
http://kiwi6.com/file/fi05qqlvdg
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Juventud Guerrera - Mon, 22 May 2017 00:56:43 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5743169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743160
Who called Bryan gloating about being right for calling Jinder winning?
Well sorry but he did immediately
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Tsukasa Fujimoto - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:14:47 EST ID:uBQbuW6i No.5743186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5743160
Damn, Chico is on fire like on tna days in this.
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Ring Ryda Blue - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:22:49 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5743191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743160
I love you
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Angelina Love - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:29:37 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5743197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743160
seriously, friend, you truly are the biggest match john of all time.
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Mr. Fuji - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:30:15 EST ID:n4LTPux/ No.5743200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743160
>yeah guys im not gonna get mad about jinder guys haha :)
>proceeds to get mad about jinder

for someone who throws the word geek around so much he sure acts like one
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Virgil - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:37:54 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5743214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743200

...it's his character on the show.
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Mr. Fuji - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:38:56 EST ID:n4LTPux/ No.5743217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743214
being unlikable?
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Juventud Guerrera - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:41:55 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5743221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743200
Well people were expecting a giant rant. But it wasn't about Jinder winning, honestly

>>5743217
He's imitating WWE babyfaces
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Virgil - Mon, 22 May 2017 01:52:45 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5743232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743217

To you, yes. His character is abrasive and hyperbolic. Some find that entertaining, some don't while people like you get worked by it because you don't realize he's doing a character for entertainment purposes.
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Little Fiji - Mon, 22 May 2017 03:47:00 EST ID:H/YSi9s3 No.5743297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What was Dave Meltzers reaction to this show is what I really want to know about

There was a very obvious reason this, Extreme Rules, Money in the Bank and GBOF are all free
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Pedro Morales - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:19:40 EST ID:O/4oVqG+ No.5743310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743297

Free? WOR or the actual show?
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:42:43 EST ID:R9wrW3tt No.5743323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bacnelash Hinderichiban and mor on wor
http://kiwi6.com/file/y4b7ejd7ou
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dognut - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:44:36 EST ID:o/++Ro0w No.5743325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743323
Ty as always
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Billy Gunn - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:50:34 EST ID:ETtCWe5w No.5743327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743323
tanks and planes hammer giant man
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Mister ZERO - Mon, 22 May 2017 05:18:16 EST ID:sf33n/sW No.5743339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743323
Thank you
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Mister ZERO - Mon, 22 May 2017 05:39:54 EST ID:sf33n/sW No.5743351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743160
>Vinny makes a 40k reference
>Chico and Tom are bamboozled
NERDS
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Riho - Mon, 22 May 2017 06:50:15 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5743380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743351

Not gonna lie, Rowan's current sheep mask is quite Nurgle-ish
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Gedo - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:18:55 EST ID:81nDjAbq No.5743460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Love how Dave and Bryan endlessly bitch about the tag match and never once bring up how over Breezango was or how into the match the crowd was.
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SullivanMySon - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:25:42 EST ID:Z/ix35lP No.5743462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5743460
BECAUSE FUNNY DON'T MAKE MONEY, YA FUCKING MARK! WHO GIVES A FUCK HOW "OVER" THEY ARE IF THEY'RE FUCKING GOING TO DO THE SAME JOKES THAT MAKES VINCE CACKLE UNTIL HE SHITS IN HIS DIAPER SO THAT BEAVER TOOTHED LITTLE BASTARD DUNN CAN REPLACE IT FOR HIM!
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Sonny Onoo - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:29:07 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5743465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743460
They said it wasn't a good crowd, but I have no idea where they got that idea from. They were into most of the matches, except for maybe Harper and Rowan. They even did a loud "Lets go Jinder, Jinder sucks" dueling chant during the main event.

The crowd was also booing any attempt by people trying to hijack the show with CM Punk chants.
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Kerry Von Erich - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:29:12 EST ID:VyrGcX2l No.5743466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743323

shinsuke is lazy but that match wasn't his fault, it was the match layout.
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CM Punk - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:37:10 EST ID:dZnUBjgt No.5743473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743460
>hates the match of the night

wtf i hate dave now
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Jimmy Garvin - Mon, 22 May 2017 10:25:06 EST ID:/sTNnFdh No.5743495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743462
To be fair, crowd reactions in WWE don't always translate to business.

Fandangoing was over in that one Raw after mania, and look what happened to that, and how long it took for Fandango to even become relevant again.
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Al Wilson - Mon, 22 May 2017 10:36:01 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5743500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743460
Alvarez always praises how New Japan shows makes sure to have a Taguchi or Yano comedy match to break the tension and give the fans something different to watch. Then finally WWE does a comedy match, stuff even supposedly comedy characters like Santino didn't even do, and he can't like it because that would be against his gimmick.
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Shuri - Mon, 22 May 2017 10:54:39 EST ID:eVSMxwWy No.5743508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743500

The difference is that Taguchi and Yano are actually good at comedy.
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Brooke Tessmacher - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:13:31 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5743565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743460
I get where they're coming from. This match was Breezango's biggest match of their career.
The whole fact they acted like it was a comedy match, from a booking standpoint, tells the fans to never take these guys seriously.
They could have easily done all those antics on Smackdown, then come out at the PPV not goofing around, but being 100% serious.
Would have been a great story to tell, especially if they won. Shame.
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Ultimate Warrior - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:19:24 EST ID:ipbXvcL8 No.5743566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743323
Thanks
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Joel Gertner - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:39:56 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5743578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Christian recently revealed WWE almost went through with plans to give him a new gimmick that would have seen him be a ‘spinoff’ of The Rock named “The Lock.”

>Christian revealed the news on the most recent episode of his podcast with Edge, Edge & Christian’s Pod of Awesomeness, laying out how the idea came up:

>“The Rock had been going off doing movies and stuff like that, so he was taking extended periods of time off. … I had a one-on-one meeting backstage with the Rock and he kind of anointed me his favorite wrestler and was trying to pump me up, but unbeknownst to me, he was trying to get me to take a bullet for him with Goldberg. That was the backstory. So when he wasn’t there I was doing my talking as “The Rock’s Favorite Wrestler” and I took upon myself to do the Rock’s work for him.

>So, one day I get home, and I get this call [from someone in WWE creative]. They’re like ‘Hey, they kinda want you to do this thing where you think you become The Rock. We want you to do the eyebrow thing, cut your hair real short, and, you know, the Rock wears black, so you’ll where white and you’re gonna use all his catchphrases and you’re gonna act like The Rock and pretend you’re The Rock and you’re gonna be The Rock. But we’re not gonna call you The Rock.’ They were gonna call me, are you ready or this, wait for it … wait for it … ‘The Lock’. Because anytime I went to the ring, it was a lock I was going to win.”


>Christian then explained that Vince McMahon was not up for the idea and effectively put an end to it, but he himself was not a fan because it would never be as good as the original Rock. He says someone in the WWE offices called him and said Vince turned the idea down, saying it was a really stupid idea and they wouldn’t do it.


http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/841439-christian-reveals-he-almost-played-a-knockoff-character-of-the-rock-in-wwe
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Ring Ryda Blue - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:47:04 EST ID:ggvXdx+I No.5743586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743466
Who do you think plans said match layout?

The wrestlers themselves do.
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Tyson Kidd - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:49:26 EST ID:aVImiqyh No.5743589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743586
Road agents plan the matches bro unless your name is John Cena.
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Sniper - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:56:58 EST ID:Od0NnntN No.5743597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743578
If even Vince shoots down your stupid idea immediately, you KNOW it's a fucking stupid idea.
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Jungle Grrrl - Mon, 22 May 2017 13:53:01 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5743652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743578
In theory this is actually a really good idea. Christian would have smashed it and then the Rock would come back and they'd feud, or even tag for a bit and it would have put Christian on another level.

Like Mizdow but better
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Karen Jarrett - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:53:38 EST ID:na12Cfz8 No.5743811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Poor Roman. His new shirt sucks.
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Joel Gertner - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:54:34 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5743814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
I didnt think it was possible for them to make even worse looking merchandise for the guy than the ones they have in the past.

But here we are.
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Chii Tomiya - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:56:28 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.5743818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
looks like a shirt made for a competitive dance team
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Jimmy Hart - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:57:09 EST ID:YEOI6tV2 No.5743820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
I thought that was a new Fandango shirt.
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Scotty 2 Hotty - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:57:15 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5743821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
looks like Justin Gabriel
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Vin Gerard - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:57:36 EST ID:6wzRQTu6 No.5743822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
Is this supposed to be an Air Jordan knockoff?
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El MurciŽlago - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:58:07 EST ID:BM2PW76j No.5743823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
That looks like a shirt you could market to workout dudes. Except for the stupid shit on the back, of course.
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Adam Bomb - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:59:12 EST ID:Ggv4BDmZ No.5743824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
>we want the Jumpman audience
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Sniper - Mon, 22 May 2017 15:59:29 EST ID:Od0NnntN No.5743825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
If they put the RR logo on his chest on the front and removed everything from the back this would be decent.

I've reached he point where I kinda feel bad that WWE is constantly fucking up Roman's push, and he just keeps going along and improving and making it suck more and more that he's booked poorly. I'm sure he personally doesn't care so much since he's over with enough people and making millions, but I can only imagine what things would be like if he actually got a face push that was paced and written well 3 years ago.
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Dustin Diamond - Mon, 22 May 2017 16:00:51 EST ID:/In2L8I3 No.5743826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
>IT'S MY
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Invader - Mon, 22 May 2017 16:38:09 EST ID:X68By/D8 No.5743865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743565
Yeah Bryan's point was basically he doesn't want all that comedy in a title match when you're supposed to make the titles prestigious and meaningful and all. I mean, when Breeze came out in his janitor get up, you knew what kind of match it was going to be.

That said, they were over with the crowd and it was working the entire match. Which is more than you can say than most WWE attempts at comedy.

>>5743811
I think it's perfect for his fans, reminds of the Jordan logo. But from afar that silhouette looks more like Nakamura than Reigns.
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Major Tanya - Mon, 22 May 2017 16:52:26 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5743877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743865
I'd be more inclined to agree with him if it wasn't the fucking smackdown tag titles. They're already worthless.
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Joel Gertner - Mon, 22 May 2017 16:57:35 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5743882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>New Orleans has witnessed some of the biggest moments in WWE history. Even more of those epic moments in time will be created when SmackDown LIVE comes to The Big Easy on June 13, the last WWE event in New Orleans before WrestleMania 34. The WWE Universe in The Big Easy will witness a huge spectacle, featuring a triple main event with Randy Orton and Jinder Mahal battling for the WWE Championship, Kevin Owens and AJ Styles clashing for the United States Title and Shinsuke Nakamura taking on Dolph Ziggler in a WWE Backlash rematch.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/article/wwe-5-biggest-new-orleans-moments
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The Great Kabuki - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:02:03 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5743889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5743882

>Backlash rematches 2 weeks after Backlash
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Andre the 3000 - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:02:49 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5743891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743882
its literally just Backlash again

lelwwe
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Matt Sydal - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:08:35 EST ID:CmUXA6O2 No.5743901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743882
Why
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Brooke Tessmacher - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:29:32 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5743932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743882
They could have at least waited until Smackdown to announce these rematches. Literally no reason to jump forward.
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Beastie - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:34:06 EST ID:iyI+X3j1 No.5743940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743882
*card subject to change and most likely will
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Vin Gerard - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:36:05 EST ID:6wzRQTu6 No.5743942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743882
>triple main event
When did WWE get the room to have 3 rings holding 3 different matches at the same time?
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- Mon, 22 May 2017 17:38:30 EST ID:i/vMZ8oL No.5743944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743882
Huh I guess jinder will hold it for at least 2 weeks instead of till Tuesday. Hopefully the nakamura match will be far better than what we got at backlash rather than just a repeat of Sunday or even worse they give the win to ziggler doing the 50/50 booking and building up a longer fued between the two.
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Sonny Onoo - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:28:19 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5743997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743508
>Taguchi
>Good at comedy

He just hits people with his ass over and over.
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Doug Basham - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:37:33 EST ID:hobI5S0c No.5744007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
Is that fem-Reigns?
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Danny Havoc - Mon, 22 May 2017 19:32:48 EST ID:hZBXJgR1 No.5744074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743997
I'll have you know that Ass is the pinnacle of comedy. It swept the Oscars recently.
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Greg Excellent - Mon, 22 May 2017 19:39:25 EST ID:M8fTXKZI No.5744079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
I don't think it's that bad. Take the nasty back shit off and it's decent
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Angelina Love - Mon, 22 May 2017 19:56:16 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5744100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5743811
All a Reigns shirt needs to be is this picture, but him scowling instead. Make it black/white or a silhouette or greyscale or whatever, and don't put any stupid shit ont he back (or, hell, just his small RR logo).
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Chiva IV - Mon, 22 May 2017 22:19:15 EST ID:bKVoh7vt No.5744302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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The Esperanza - Mon, 22 May 2017 23:39:58 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5744373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744302

lol this fucking company
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Ian Rotten - Mon, 22 May 2017 23:41:17 EST ID:VgX129L2 No.5744374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744302
its just known as a "Normal" Match
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The Esperanza - Mon, 22 May 2017 23:42:09 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5744375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743578

This was pre Peeps Christian when he still had long hair and wore the singlet, right? I guess his haircut and the peeps gimmick make more since now seeing as it seems like it was inspired by this aborted gimmick.
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The Esperanza - Tue, 23 May 2017 00:02:30 EST ID:m/BXD4xo No.5744383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811

Too bad Rollins isn't heel otherwise he could make the joke that he's on Roman's own shirt.
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Ken Patera - Tue, 23 May 2017 00:03:40 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5744385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744302
I swear they've said non-title before

I still remember "title-free" though
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Liger Mask V - Tue, 23 May 2017 00:57:11 EST ID:aBGkcUsE No.5744421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5743811
>tfw they made Roman retire taker to use his
"my yard" shtick on shirts.
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Tue, 23 May 2017 04:00:12 EST ID:J6tgXsO/ No.5744514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No RAMWOR?
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Jey Uso - Tue, 23 May 2017 04:09:21 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5744520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744514

It usually gets posted on the site in roughly an hour from now
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Tue, 23 May 2017 04:13:39 EST ID:oNUG40dn No.5744523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744514
Depending on the timing someone else may have to upload it.
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Tue, 23 May 2017 06:09:07 EST ID:R9wrW3tt No.5744562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5744523
Rowmar
Plus njbosj and more
http://kiwi6.com/file/ae2bcxhq70
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Rico - Tue, 23 May 2017 06:13:17 EST ID:lA/EuHTd No.5744563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744562
das it mang
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Jesse Neal - Tue, 23 May 2017 06:19:23 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5744566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5744562
u da man andre
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Ricky Ortiz - Tue, 23 May 2017 15:10:40 EST ID:lOxF1VS7 No.5744977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wol is airing in http://taima.tv/r/wooo2 now!
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Low Ki - Tue, 23 May 2017 15:56:51 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5745020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Pro Wrestling Sheet has learned WWE officials are planning to announce a women’s Money in the Bank match for next month’s event … and if all goes accordingly, we’ll be getting the first of it’s kind.

>Sources tell us the SmackDown brand pay per view will not only feature the men’s MITB, but as it currently stands they’re planning to announce a women’s match as well in the next few weeks.

>Thats right, 2017 is more than likely going to feature the inaugural Women’s Championship briefcase.

>No word yet on participants, or if there is any added stipulations, but the fact they are having this match alone is just another large step forward in women’s equality in WWE.

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/womens-money-bank-planned/#.WSSTbfkrLs1
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Muscle Sakai - Tue, 23 May 2017 15:59:37 EST ID:HI7KvjSx No.5745022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
When will this equality meme end?
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Ring Ryda Blue - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:00:31 EST ID:Od0NnntN No.5745023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
This has made sense since they started giving a shit about the women. It's a played out concept with the men for the most part, but the women haven't had anything like a MitB, so while the concept isn't fresh, it's something.

I get the feeling they'll give the case to Carmella though.
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Droz - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:06:10 EST ID:NdUFKJih No.5745029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
That sounds awful.
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Low Ki - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:08:37 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5745030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745029
In all seriousness the idea of Carmella, Tamina, and Charlotte in a multi-person ladder match does sound like a scary botch just waiting to happen.
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Johnny - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:14:09 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5745037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
I can't see how any of the women actually want to compete in this match honestly.
The can get injured ten times easier than the men and aren't entirely replaceable either.
It'll be a very safe match with some submission spot on top of the ladder if anything.
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Ken Patera - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:16:17 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5745039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
Sounds like wild dogshit
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Lizzy Valentine - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:21:34 EST ID:MuY5CtEG No.5745042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
I don't think Becky will be able to carry all of them to a decent match this time.
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Lodi - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:22:09 EST ID:+c5/B8UT No.5745044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745037
Charlotte will do something stupid, don't worry
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The Jackyl - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:28:09 EST ID:GH3CQCNx No.5745058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5744562
tenk u ric andrew big balls
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Michael Nakazawa - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:48:14 EST ID:ZChAAxJc No.5745088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745020
How about couple normal ladder matches first to get them little experience on ladder matches.
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Dr. Wagner Jr. - Tue, 23 May 2017 19:10:51 EST ID:/sTNnFdh No.5745244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745044
>Charlotte does a moonsault off the ladder
>misses an out-of-position Tamina and gets a serious leg injury
I can already see it

Hopefully, they'll come out of that match alive and well
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Burning Andrés Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Wed, 24 May 2017 00:33:37 EST ID:R9wrW3tt No.5745651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BVC Retra shaw wath raa and natra
http://kiwi6.com/file/4t2osqdc71
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Jobber - Wed, 24 May 2017 01:01:44 EST ID:jHgoCgAh No.5745668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In the latest twist in the Matt and Jeff Hardy vs. Impact Wrestling situation over the ownership of the "Broken" gimmick used by the Hardy family in Impact Wrestling before leaving at the onset of 2017, which have been called into question, complete with Matt Hardy filing a copyright on the "Broken Matt Hardy" name, followed by Impact Wrestling filing a number of trademarks on names related to the "Broken" gimmick and characters, Anthem Media's Ed Nordholm contacted PWInsider.com this evening, releasing the following statement, which PWInsider.com has not edited in any way:

***

Good afternoon,

In response to on-going speculation concerning our position with respect to the “Broken Brilliance” creative, I am providing this detailed log of our communications on the subject and the contractual structure of our relationship with Matt Hardy with respect to intellectual property matters (which is standard to our roster and in the industry).

There has never been any argument from Impact Wrestling that the Hardy’s were key contributors to the development of the characters and story line, or that Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy executed on their roles in spectacular fashion. But the position taken by the Hardys is a massive disservice to the contributions of the rest of the creative team at Impact Wrestling, including Jeremy Borash, Dave Lagano (sic), Matt Conway and Billy Corgan, and is totally at odds with the terms of their contracts.

The Hardys would have you believe that Anthem is somehow avoiding their lawyers to address this. This is the log of our communications with the Hardys and/or their lawyers. It is clear that we have not been avoiding them.

March 10 – EBN speaks with executives at ROH about “Broken Brilliance” being used in ROH shows. I indicated willingness to provide an arrangement that would allow the creative to be used in ROH shows and encouraged ROH to have Matt speak with me if he wanted to pursue that discussion
March 11 – EBN spoke at length with Matt by telephone about the structure of an amicable arrangement for use of the Broken Brilliance creative
March 14 – Matt sent text message to Ed Nordholm at 4:05pm:
“Tried giving you a call, it rang & went busy. I'm open to working things out amicably as we spoke about. The lawyer who represent me is interested in seeing your offer. My lawyer's email is {redacted} which you could send the offer to for review. Thanks.”

And I responded by text at 6:41 pm

“Thank you Matt. I was supposed to be [flying] into NYC today and am a little twisted. I will pull something together with [our] lawyers and try to get it over to your lawyer tomorrow or Thursday at latest“

March 16 – At 8:25 pm I sent an update text to Matt:
“Hi Matt. My lawyer got me a draft too late to get reviewed for today. I will look at it in the morning. Sorry for the delay”

And he responded at 9:16 pm

“Ok, he's ready for it. Thanks for the update.”

March 17 – counsel for Anthem Wrestling delivered draft proposal to counsel for Matt Hardy
March 24 – counsel for Anthem Wresting followed up with Matt Hardy counsel requesting comments on the proposal
March 27 – counsel for Matt Hardy responds that they have been away and have not reviewed the proposal but will be back “in the next few days”
After which no further communication until

April 18 – counsel for Matt Hardy leaves a voice mail message for counsel for Anthem Wrestling asking to arrange a meeting
April 20 – EBN contacts WWE by email to determine veracity of internet rumours concerning WWE interest in Broken Brilliance
April 21 -- WWE respond by email that there “is no interest on our end” {redacted email exchange attached}
April 21 – counsel for Matt Hardy sends a follow up message requesting a meeting
April 27 – lawyers speak to arrange a meeting
May 16 – lawyers meet but no agreement reached
Finally, I am attaching a copy of the relevant provisions of Matt’s contract with Impact. The clause is virtually identical to the corresponding provisions of every wrestler under contract with Impact.

The facts are that we tried to accommodate the Hardys for their Ring of Honour engagements, and have tried to elicit an indication from WWE whether they have an interest in using the Broken Brilliance creative in WWE. We are not hoarding it from WWE; WWE is not interested in it.

We fully respect the decision of Matt and Jeff to return to WWE and appreciate all of their contributions to Impact Wrestling. We wish them every success.

Our focus is on the future and we will not have any further public comment on this matter.

Ed Nordholm



The except of Hardy's contract features several highlighted passages that denoted that any original intellectual property created while working for Impact would become Impact's property under "work for hire" rules and that they would retain that ownership of the IP as well as the video rights to the performances, even after the contractual relationship between the two sides had completed.

To read the PDF file from the excerpt from Matt Hardy's contract with Impact Wrestling, click here.

The retracted email exchanged between Nordholm and someone from WWE revolves around online rumors that WWE was looking to get involved in the situation between Anthem and the Hardys and that they were looking to use the "Broken" personas on WWE programming. The email exchange states, from the WWE side, that there was "no interest on our end in getting involved."

To read the redacted email between Anthem and WWE, click here.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=109818
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Eric Young - Wed, 24 May 2017 01:13:21 EST ID:2Kuk/Xoy No.5745678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5738425
I thought 205 wasn't even in the top 20 most viewed shows on WWEN, but apparently its #8?
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Beef Wellington - Wed, 24 May 2017 01:16:31 EST ID:ZHYT+nYM No.5745680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745668
Reby has tweeted that this isn't so and Anthem are liars, but that she wouldn't release her proof outside of the proper channels.
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Johnny B. Badd - Wed, 24 May 2017 09:11:00 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5745930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745668
It's funny seeing Reby trying to take the moral high ground now after she's done nothing but trash TNA for 2 months and even tried profiting from the situation with those Owl t-shirts.

I really want to see Broken Hardys in WWE but I really, really despise that woman
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Terry Funk - Wed, 24 May 2017 09:42:33 EST ID:XT2uvMlf No.5745951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5745680
>>5745930
I obviously support the "little man" apparently getting robbed by corporate here, but at this point Reby seems like pretty much every woman after a breakup trying everything to make her ex's life as miserable as possible without actually confronting him. Bad attitude which will backfire sooner or later.
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Arn Anderson - Wed, 24 May 2017 10:44:35 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5745984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At least Reby has the excuse of being an NY PR tripping balls on pregnancy hormones.

Why the fuck can't Anthem stay off the internet?
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Johnny B. Badd - Wed, 24 May 2017 11:01:39 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5745995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745984
I see your point but I think they probably just had enough of being seen as the bad guys and getting constant shit from Hardy marks. I made the mistake of reading the replies to some of Reby's tweets and it was scary how weird the Hardy fanbase is and how much they love her even though she beat up Matt.

I actually read a post from someone last night and they had a theory that Matt isn't going to be sticking in WWE as long as Jeff (I don't think their contract lengths were discussed) and he obviously wants the Broken universe to be his so he can do whatever he wants with it when he leaves. Which is understandable because without it, there's really nowhere but down for him after he leaves WWE, but if that's the case it's not really cool of him and Reby having the fans believe WWE actually wants Broken Hardys. It's actually pretty damn shitty of them.

Like I say it was just a post I read but it makes sense in a way. I mean if WWE really wanted the Broken universe, wouldn't they have got it by now. And it's interesting Reby says 'Her lawyers/attorney' not ours or WWE's
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Johnny B. Badd - Wed, 24 May 2017 11:04:29 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5745999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745995
and if Matt does actually gain control over it, aren't WWE going to want a piece/all of it, to stop Matt from earning mad stacks when he leaves? I mean, they're not going to give him a vehicle to get an act even more over and then leave and profit on it are they?
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Hallowicked - Wed, 24 May 2017 11:04:50 EST ID:rB/OzA1B No.5746000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745984
I think it'd be pretty reasonable to say at this point that the stuff Reby's saying has been pretty damaging to the reps of Impact and particularly Anthem, especially if they're not true. Not that they should sue or anything, the best thing for all parties would be shutting the fuck up and letting whatever legal things are gonna happen just happen, but I can understand the urge to respond in some way after months of getting freely shit on.
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Hieracon - Wed, 24 May 2017 11:12:45 EST ID:pO2v0kua No.5746010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5745951
>Bad attitude which will backfire sooner or later.
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Tony Garea - Wed, 24 May 2017 11:43:31 EST ID:iUijANpJ No.5746052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5745651
>The Name Game song at the end
Top 5 of all time
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Chainsaw Charlie - Wed, 24 May 2017 11:56:20 EST ID:UbFuWIxd No.5746061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5745668
>>5745995

Ah so basically Anthem did nothing wrong and WWE weren't interested in Broken Brilliance at all, but once again the internet has managed to somehow see WWE as the good guys and TNA as the pantomime villains.


People are forgetting how much of the creative was done by other people like Borash etc, but Matt wants the whole pie to himself. The sad thing is he could have actually had the rights if he had just played nice and actually sat down to negotiate properly.
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Chainsaw Charlie - Wed, 24 May 2017 12:00:08 EST ID:UbFuWIxd No.5746064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5746061
Ok, well maybe Anthem aren't entirely blameless in the whole thing, but it's going to be predictably the WON awards "most disgusting tactic" of the year when it won't deserve it.
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El MurciŽlago - Wed, 24 May 2017 12:13:04 EST ID:KsM1pHmi No.5746069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5746061
no idea how you jump to any of those conclusions, even if you take this as fact.
just calm down and take a deep breath next time before posting. ok?

>WWE weren't interested in Broken Brilliance at all,
They weren't interested in working out a legal deal over it one month ago.

> but once again the internet has managed to somehow see WWE as the good guys and TNA as the pantomime villains.
I never saw anyone paint WWE as the good guys. Maybe the hardys, but all the reaction I have seen on this has largely been "carnies gonna carn".

>People are forgetting how much of the creative was done by other people like Borash etc
How can we forget something we had no way of possibly knowing in the first place? were you in the room when all of this was developed? Since you seem to remember, tell me, what exactly did people like Borash, etc do compared to Matt?
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Johnny B. Badd - Wed, 24 May 2017 12:27:26 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5746090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5746069
Pretty sure it's common knowledge Borash had a lot to do with the thing. People like Meltzer, TNA talent and even Matt himself has said as much
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Hallowicked - Wed, 24 May 2017 13:08:43 EST ID:rB/OzA1B No.5746131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5746069
It's been reported pretty much from day one that JB was hugely involved with the Hardys segments and did the vast majority of the direction and editing


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