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Indie Wrestling & ROH General Thread #16: Twitch Edition by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:38:22 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5872651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Continuing from last thread >>5835083

>Weekly tube blocks where indie promotions can be found include Britwres Tube on Sundays at 3pm EST / 8pm GMT for the British Isles indie scene and Indie Tube on Fridays at 3pm EST / 8pm GMT for the indie scene outside of the British Isles. Both can be watched in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo
>Championship Wrestling from Hollywood airs weekly on Wednesdays at 10pm EST / 3am GMT in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Thursdays at 1:25pm EST / 6:25pm GMT in /wooo/tube.
>ROH Wrestling airs weekly on Thursdays at 10pm EST / 3am GMT in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt. Replays air on Fridays at 12:40pm EST / 5:40pm GMT in /wooo/tube.
>Smash Wrestling airs weekly on Fridays at 7:10pm EST / 12:10am GMT in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Saturdays at 3:10pm EST / 8:10pm GMT in /wooo/tube.
>VOD and live indie wrestling events as well as ROH IPPVs, PPVs and VOD events are shown on Friday and Saturday evenings as well as Sunday afternoons and evenings. Keep an eye on /wooo/ for information on those as they're scheduled and updated in the "Upcoming Events" section on /wooo/tube.

Here is an assortment of ROH and notable indie wrestling promotions and where to find them:

>Ring of Honor


>Beyond Wrestling


>Combat Zone Wrestling


>EVOLVE Wrestling




>Pro Wrestling Guerrilla


>All American Wrestling




>House of Hardcore


>Championship Wrestling from Hollywood


>PROGRESS Wrestling


>Insane Championship Wrestling


>Revolution Pro Wrestling


>WhatCulture Pro Wrestling


>Westside Xtreme Wrestling


>Smash Wrestling


This post was edited by C_Higgy on 02-11-2017 11:09:30
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:41:45 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5872652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The second first match for the Soaring Eagle Cup is signed. Also Kenny Omega will be wrestling at Supercard of Honor XII.
Chuck Palumbo - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:21:30 EST ID:7w7yxIpD No.5872672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Soaring Eagle Cup
Sean O'Haire - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:41:56 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5872685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this is kind of big news:

>Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania - October 19, 2017 - A lot can happen in the span of twenty years. Today Powerbomb.tv is proud to announce that they have signed a multi-year partnership with Smart Mark Video. This is an incredible partnership, one that truly benefits independent professional wrestling as a whole; fans, performers, and promotions alike.

>Twenty years ago, a group of friends came together to form a video production and distribution company based on their shared love of independent professional wrestling. Their goal was simple: help independent wrestling grow by providing promotions professional editing and timely distribution of their content, two things independent wrestling severely lacked at the time. That company, reflecting its fan origins, called themselves Smart Mark Video and, under the leadership of Mike Burns, has built a sterling reputation with fans, promoters, and wrestlers over the last two decades.

>Twenty years later, Gerard Durling, the former professional wrestler known as Vin Gerard, and Adam Lash, a video producer and former long-time member of the Smart Mark Video team, co-founded and launched Powerbomb.tv, a streaming service dedicated to promoting the growth and development of independent wrestling on a global scale, giving fans access to wrestling from all over the world. Working with little more than their passion for independent wrestling, Durling and Lash, along with their developer Paul Couture, began Powerbomb.tv as an ambitious plan to help make independent wrestling better.

>Smart Mark Video releases will begin releasing on Powerbomb.tv starting November 1st, and more from their deep, comprehensive library will be added every month. Releases will span from Smart Mark's early years to the present, and will include content never before released in a digital format.

>Of this partnership, Powerbomb.tv co-founder Adam Lash said, "Working together just made sense. The truth is, there wouldn't be a Powerbomb.tv if it weren't for Smart Mark Video. It not only radically changed the game for independent wrestling in the 90s and 00s, but on a personal level, I spent sixteen years working there helping to shape and grow the company, and that company and the people that I was blessed to work with helped shape what I believe independent wrestling could and should be."

>"From day one the Smart Mark philosophy has been to give back and continually reinvest in to independent wrestling. This is a shared philosophy Powerbomb has, and they want to give back to all independent companies, big and small, like we do. With this deal you will see companies like Absolute Intense Wrestling, Alpha-1, and IWA Mid-South but you will also see companies like Mid American Wrestling, the Future Wrestling Alliance, and companies from the past that paved the way for independent wrestling today" said Mike Burns, co-founder and owner of Smart Mark Video.

>"Establishing this partnership with Smart Mark Video really puts in motion our goal to bring independent wrestling together so that fans can enjoy it all in one place. Working together has always been our hope because we all want to see greater opportunities for independent wrestlers and the promotions they work for" said Gerard Durling, co-founder and owner of Powerbomb.tv.

>According to Durling and Lash, the partnership with Smart Mark Video would not be possible without the support of Powerbomb.tv's partners and the fans. This partnership opens up many doors and exciting opportunities for everyone. Both companies expressed that this partnership opens up many doors and exciting opportunities for everyone and they look forward to continuing to grow independent wrestling in 2018 and beyond.

So Powerbomb TV now has:
Nova Pro
Preston City
and probably Glory Pro
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:17:22 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5872710 Report Quick Reply
That is pretty big news. Also NOVA Pro is doing its first live show on December 28, which hopefully we can show in the tubes the day after or something.
Eric Bischoff - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:33:54 EST ID:8WP3Rj7m No.5872719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how long before a wrestling company's logo has Kappa face in it
DashingCN - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:50:04 EST ID:E65SVMid No.5872724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't see other thread bump but Jimmy Jacobs is appearing at CZW and Beyond in November
Charles Robinson - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:21:13 EST ID:hIx1VOSl No.5872737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
power uti maybe killed his wife

Curt Hawkins - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:57:09 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5872753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dont know if I could do 4 shows in a day or would wanna support gabe
John Laurinaitis - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:10:16 EST ID:YpGkQ5tf No.5872759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>go to one of the most fun cities on earth
>stay in all day and watch wrestling that will be available on VOD later
Tank Abbott - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:13:53 EST ID:F9BWBKuq No.5872764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The only shows worth going to are the two Progress ones, Janelas spring break show, and Kaiju.
Wrestlecon Friday night and ROh or NXT Saturday night.
The Iron Sheik - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:20:57 EST ID:gWmWN2jl No.5872767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Former World Champion Jack Swagger is asking wrestling fans to “stand up for the indies” in a new promo … because he believes WWE is piggybacking off big independent shows to take their money.

>Swagger is scheduled to appear at The Wrestling Revolver‘s Tales From the Ring event on October 28 in Iowa and, while promoting the show, Jack took issue with NXT booking a gig the night before.

>He explains, “I’m new to the independent scene, but I’ve seen a trend arising and I wanted to speak on it. Whenever certain promotions run their bigger shows, especially around the holidays, WWE likes to come in to the same market and run a show at the same time.”

>Jack points to the upcoming Starrcade event in North Carolina being booked on the same day as a WrestleCade event, as well as the aforementioned Revolver show, and thinks something ain’t right.

>“Hmmm … coincidence? I mean, possibly. They do book their shows months and months ahead of time. But what is even more possible is that WWE saw the card for The Revolver and said ‘oh sh*t, that’s a great roster. This is gonna be a big show. Indies are hot. We should get some of that.” Swagger adds, “To me, this is a slap in the face. Typical WWE saying they’re a bigger company and they can come into your market and push you around and run a show whenever they like.”

>Watch the full promo to see Jack’s call to wrestling fans at the end, in which he says it’s time to “stand up” by helping them outsell the competing NXT event, or any shows in the same situation.

Carl Oullette - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:21:36 EST ID:lHgC3ZBQ No.5872768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For real. I'm going down to stay with my best friend's sister. We're gonna chill out either a day or two before all the rasslin starts.
Sean O'Haire - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:23:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5872770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the best stuff at WWN is non-Gabe related: Progress & the 3 midnight shows

WrestleCon has the better lineup IMO

ROH's show is going to be a banger too
Don Harris - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:28:34 EST ID:RU28nMbI No.5872773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>wearing a 'weed the people' shirt
Sean O'Haire - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:29:07 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5872775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Adam Cole has been set up as a NXT title contender since he debuted at TakeOver: Brooklyn III to attack Drew McIntyre moments after he won the strap from Bobby Roode. Shawn Michaels works in WWE Developmental and calls the San Antonio area home.
> This could just be a nice treat for the Texas crowd. It could be a sign tickets weren’t moving as briskly as Triple H and company would like (which wouldn’t be a great sign, as while The Aztec Theatre is on the larger side of NXT house show venues, it’s still only an approximately 2000 seat house).

>Matt Jackson thinks he’s knows what’s going on here, and he’s probably right.That certainly fits the pattern of action - reaction WWE and Bullet Club have had going for a while now.
Natalya - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:45:27 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5872782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I caught some NXT the other night and there was a sea of bullet club shirts. How long can WWE ignore how popular these guys are? Do they not realise their fan base will eventually grow up and seek out better wrestling ?
Drew Gulak - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:52:54 EST ID:NpUHzH8X No.5872786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, when will the plebians be enlightened as yourself
Curt Hawkins - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:54:37 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5872788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah roh has omega and tanahashi already confirmed
Sean O'Haire - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:55:04 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5872789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
doesn't disprove his point
Drew Gulak - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:57:34 EST ID:NpUHzH8X No.5872791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shouldn't you be autistically defending TNA?
Sean O'Haire - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:59:47 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5872795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not an argument
The Red Rooster - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:41:01 EST ID:np66eZF/ No.5872813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I went to NO earlier this year. Things don't really pick up until like 11pm. I remember hearing back to my hotel at like 3am and the streets were still full.

One can spend all day watching wrestling and all night partying.
Josh Matthews - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:01:37 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5873078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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what the fuck
Albert - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:02:28 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5873081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Weedman - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:59:45 EST ID:+KzeeAH2 No.5873169 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Very international.
Alere Little Feather - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:00:33 EST ID:4/zadnUV No.5873171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
deviant art pls go
Curt Hawkins - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:21:49 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5873205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>fenix vs ultimo infront of 300 people
wew lads
Trent Barreta - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:33:18 EST ID:ztzOjTTA No.5873218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jonah is legit more jacked than the comically jacked dude on the Gold's Gym logo. Even standing at a diagonal he's making WALTER look like just some regular guy with his sheet W I D T H. You go, big boi.
Tommaso Ciampa - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:00:41 EST ID:ckvgyhG/ No.5873293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TMDK shirt

Damn, almost forgot about the TMDK name. What does TM61 even stand for?
Rikidozan - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:13:58 EST ID:ztzOjTTA No.5873301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's an area code or something. It was explained when they debuted in NXT but it's been so long. TMDK is a lot better as a name. I remember their matches with Dangan Yankees.
Fuchi - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:14:57 EST ID:sOCLMsRe No.5873302 Ignore Report Quick Reply

TM = Thorne & Miller
61 = Australia phone code
Chri - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:15:40 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5873303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What does TM61 even stand for?
Will-O-Wisp (Japanese: おにび Will-o'-the-Wisp) is a non-damaging Fire-type move introduced in Generation III. It has been TM61 since Generation IV.
Bison Smith - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:18:28 EST ID:NXwT3xEm No.5873307 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Some Pokemon bullshit.
Johnny Gargano - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 23:26:46 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5873413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
its this not
Skinner - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 01:27:05 EST ID:YKEnLNzC No.5873478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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PWG All-Star Weekend NIght One is at intermission. Quick spoiler rundown so far:

Flash Morgan Webster beat Brian Cage

Mark Haskins beat Adam Brooks

Joey Janela beat Trevor Lee

Keith Lee beat Jonah Rock
Sonny Siaki - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 01:47:12 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5873483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
%>Joey Janela beat Trevor Lee
Skinner - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 02:53:13 EST ID:YKEnLNzC No.5873522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And the rest of the spoilers for PWG All-Star Weekend 13 Night One:

Sammy Guevara beats Flamita and Rey Horus

Ricochet beats WALTER

The Chosen Bros (Jeff Cobb and Matt Riddle) beat The Lucha Brothers (Penta and Fenix) to become the new PWG Tag Team Champions
Lacey - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 05:46:03 EST ID:8WP3Rj7m No.5873563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ricochet beats WALTER

for what purpose
Orlando Jordan - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:18:32 EST ID:HG9D5Yg8 No.5873571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why is Ron Jeremy even there
Jimmy Wang Yang - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:53:50 EST ID:VSeS7fDz No.5873702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is the Bola 2017 DVD online already? Has it shipped?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:05:51 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5873710 Report Quick Reply
Yes it already has. We're showing it in /wooo/tube next weekend.
Johnny Gargano - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:17:16 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5873718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>he doesnt know the title match on night 2
Allison Wonderland - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:23:54 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5873725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's not wrong but to be fair, indies have been piggybacking off Mania longer than WWE has been doing this.

Though indies don't purposely run against WWE shows, for obvious reasons.
UltraMantis Black - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 19:02:30 EST ID:Hyhm8USP No.5874090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just finish watching The Wolf of Wrestling and i am pretty sure Joey Janela is indie wrestler of the year.
Kevin Thorn - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:27:39 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5874163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pretty sure thats will ospreay
Kenny Omega - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 21:13:54 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5874183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I know I might be the only one that cares, but I'm disappointed with the new building in Sewell.

It just lacks the atmosphere and charm and atmosphere has always been really important to me with wrestling. It feels like just another building. The ECW Arena and the Flyer Skate Zone both had an atmosphere to them. Even the old Sewell building in 2001 had a certain look to it that was fitting. This new venue looks like some random venue that EVOLVE would run.
Kevin Thorn - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:51:09 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5874485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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MsChif - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:25:48 EST ID:hAZjY3rV No.5874656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just realized that Bobby George Jr. (The guy with the darts gimmick in OTT in Ireland, this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65-VXboF7uo) is actually Rob Cage, a man who had a really shitty match with RJ Singh in one of Progress' early shows.

...That's all, I just couldn't recognize the guy and had my mind blown.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:28:10 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5874658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's the results from PWG All Star Weekend 13: Night 2 and ROH Philadelphia Excellence (TV Tapings):

>PWG - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/10/22/pwg-102117-star-weekend-13-night-2-results/
>ROH - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/10/21/roh-102017-philadelphia-excellence-tv-spoilers/
The Miz - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:32:26 EST ID:tHp4USkc No.5874664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Ricochet beating Chuck
Fuck off
Atsushi Kotoge - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:35:10 EST ID:UaBjGfgY No.5874666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Super Dragon bringing in the Aussies is probably the best decision he's made the past 2 years. Sick to death of seeing every flippy asshole on every indie show. But the he blows all that goodwill with Ricochet

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 22-10-2017 14:51:31
Mike Tenay - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:40:28 EST ID:n9cddglU No.5874668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>ending Chucky's reign already to give a WWE mark one more accomplishment
Togi Makabe - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:40:52 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5874670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh boy, looking forward to Ricochet doing the "I'm too big for the indies and now I'm going to get take this indie's top title to WWE developmental" schtick just like CM Punk and Tyler Black did in ROH. Such a fresh, interesting take that we haven't seen ad infinitum on the indies.

I know I'm getting worked but I'm so done with Ricochet's year-plus long begging to join NXT.

I knew Chuck's reign was going to be short but this feels like wasting Jay Lethal's big ROH reign on an Adam Cole Bullet Club retread. I just ... don't care about this new top heel and his new top heel schtick
Juventud Guerrera - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:46:14 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5874675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>based Dustin loses the belt to Ricochet

fuck right off
Cheerleader Melissa - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:54:50 EST ID:Pm8gwt8I No.5874687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rene Dupree - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:02:34 EST ID:oKdwM7CI No.5874696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know what would be REALLY original? If he started using the pedigree as a finisher that's never been done before!!
DashingCN - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:19:30 EST ID:qJzeTsS1 No.5874758 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Should of let Dustin hold it until end of the year
Kevin Thorn - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:39:37 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5874782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wtf i hate pwg now
Joe E. Legend - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:01:47 EST ID:XgcBkFSC No.5874803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Am I reading this wrong or
>Ricochet beats Chuck with a belt shot but a different ref counts
>match restarted
>Ricochet beats him again
Allison Wonderland - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:09:55 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5874815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah, I feel you. Not that I've watched the show, but it's always jarring when a company that has run one venue for so long changes it. I hope they grow into the new place, because from what I've heard, it's an improvement on every other front.
Necro Butcher - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:29:52 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5874843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm watching Powerbomb TV's Futures show. The talent is good but goddamn the crowd is dire. It's like one of those shitty EVOLVE or Chikara tapings. The venue looks like every shitty indy venue ever. With a low hanging vent system so large you'd think it was used for some spy movie.

I like the service and the production is competent enough but it's a bad look when your own events with the Powerbomb branding have less than 100 people there.
Togi Makabe - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:32:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5874845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this is only the second-eve Powerbomb live event and the whole service just started this summer

what exactly do you think should be the threshold for venue quality for an indie show? how much money do you think it would cost to get the venue you want?
Kenny Omega - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:20:11 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5874879 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Between Super Dragon's fetish for the boring, dry and extremely overrated UK wrestlers and now Ricochet beating Chuck Taylor, I'm about ready to quit PWG altogether. How the mighty have fallen.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but fuck this company.
Crash Holly - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:26:41 EST ID:ztzOjTTA No.5874886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If anything he's moving away from just the UK and just bringing in international guys that people who have already worked PWG recommend to him. He's booking WALTER, a bunch of Mexican guys, and two Australians that almost nobody outside of that scene has heard of pretty much on the word of guys who have worked with them in the past. Booking Webster is kind of perplexing though; he's not bad but he's not worth flying to Reseda when you could book Gibson tbh.

As for the spoiler, the Best Friends/LDRS feud that lead to Chuckie T winning the title was one of the best storylines PWG has done, and certainly the best in like 3-4 years. Reigns like Chuck's are meant to be short; you can DEFINITELY argue that dropping it on defense #1 and to Ricochet is stupid, but PWG has booked more good than bad in the main event this year so for now I'll see how it ends up.
Necro Butcher - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:27:31 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5874887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get I'm very critical of indy wrestling production, I can't help it. For the longest time I was gonna make video production my career before I ended up working in radio.

But all that aside, the most low budget show can look awesome if there's a hot, decent sized crowd.

Right now as I watch, Eddie Kingston is cutting the obligatory shoot promo about being an indy guy and not cut out for corporate wrestling, etc. And there's some kids, WWE marks, and bored looking parents clapping politely.

That brings me to another thing. Kingston now and Jimmy Jacobs last night both referenced "writers." I get that it's in the context of written promos in WWE, but calling out "writers" really makes the shit sound fake. Maybe all the years of listening to Corny rubbed off on me, but why the FUCK are you acknowledging the fact there's writers when it's being presented as real otherwise, and then say "this is REAL." No one is buying it.
Togi Makabe - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:38:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5874897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i think it was inevitable that Chuck would lose on his first defense. He kind of had to in order to really sell his lovable loser persona

It's just annoying that that heat is going to Ricochet. I feel like I've seen Rico's indie ceiling. I don't think he's going to evolve til after a stint in NXT. We've seen his flips, his promos aren't great. He's the kind of guy that needs to have an extended excursion into WWE or NJPW to learn how to work in different scenarios. It's like Johnny Gargano, who is better in NXT than he ever was in the indies because WWE forced him to work TV/storytelling structures and help him to be a better promo and character. MMMMMMMMaybe Rico and Super Dragon will surprise but I'm honestly just expecting more of the same wink-wink-shooty promos about trashing the title before boarding a plane to Orlando and watching 'chet use a pedigree just like Pete Dunne did. It's just going to be the BSS schtick ... but with Ricochet.

Togi Makabe - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:43:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5874900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To add:
I just think it should have been another heel to dethrone Chuck. PWG doesn't really have heels though. Everything's so wink-wink but the Legion Hall would become unglued if someone who knew how to rile that crowd up like Bubba Ray Dudley circa 1998.

Ricochet working a "i'm going to WWE!" heel gimmick has been done so many times at this point on the indies. I just want someone to be able to get fucking heat from the crowd and without resorting to meta, too-clever, breaking-kayfabe ironic cliches.

Beside we might as well hurry along to Marty becoming PWG world champ so we get Marty, Cody and Kenny sporting the PWG, ROH and NJPW USA titles in a Bullet Club photo op.
Allison Wonderland - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:00:43 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5874928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll be honest, when I fantasy booked Chuck's PWG reign in my head at the start of the year, I had him winning it sometime after BOLA and then immediately losing it when the BOLA winner claimed his title match. And if I had to pick someone to do it, I would've gone with Trevor Lee. His TNA superstar thing was fun, and I really feel like he could have been THE heel in PWG once Zack lost the title. I guess all the stuff going on with TNA put a bit of a damper on that act though.

I'm still upset Chuck lost, but I probably would've been regardless of who beat him because Chuck is the man.
Stone Cold Steve Austin - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:32:22 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5875337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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RIP IWA MS again
Brock Lesnar - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:33:40 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5875343 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What's the chances that Ian will change his mind and resurrect it again?
League Manager Y2YAY !fKufr32NAI - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:45:30 EST ID:epfe0UIz No.5875374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>are last show

CM Punk - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:01:11 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5875409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>he'll of a run
Jetta - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:03:19 EST ID:Qf9wJkF5 No.5875417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bye, Felica
Brock Lesnar - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 01:10:38 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5875865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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When exactly did AAW become a "supercard promotion"? From what I heard in their early days it was an average or slightly above average indie. But when did it turn into full blown supercard?

I've never seen a full AAW show, but I've seen clips. How does it measure up in quality and atmosphere to PWG and BEYOND?
Gail Kim - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:33:51 EST ID:rBjIsroe No.5876140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why am I being unable to find an uh..alternative to stream/get BOLA 2017? BR´s have been shipped..it never takes that long. Anyone?!!?
Mustafa Said - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:36:51 EST ID:hAZjY3rV No.5876145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It took about two weeks last year after the shipping for BOLA to hit XWT. Alternatively /wooo/tube is starting showing one BOLA night per day this Friday.
Jonathan Barber - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:13:00 EST ID:+FTmQhFd No.5876252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Around the time Sami went back to the indies and they started booking guys like Penta and Fenix. That's when I first really remember hearing about them getting buzz.
Rob Conway - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:26:16 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5876263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:34:26 EST ID:kSLqYMoa No.5876625 Report Quick Reply
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Final first round match for the Soaring Eagle Cup
Dale Oliver - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:40:47 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5876839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Matt Tremont is a M A D M A N
AKIRA - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:16:10 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5876908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tremont is based and is our guy
Mildred Burke - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:18:23 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5876918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Bull Dempsey
I'm good actually, thanks
David Hart Smith - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:21:34 EST ID:oLApnrPU No.5876921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:06:29 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5876962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This could end up being a lot of fun.
AKIRA - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:57:42 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5877273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i guess lykos is good to wrestle again
Brooke Tessmacher - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:09:09 EST ID:8WP3Rj7m No.5877282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Yo! Defy9 Graps

holy shit i feel like im a million years old
Cassandro - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:17:46 EST ID:Rk+z/NHG No.5877286 Ignore Report Quick Reply

why is bootleg aleister black fighting bootleg velveteen dream
WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:26:17 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5877288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I do like Brody King, but he looks like Aleister Black ate Aleister Black.
Teddy Hart - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:33:51 EST ID:fui0r/nt No.5877294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why is almost everyone covering their noses? is it true that england is just really smelly?
VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:17:08 EST ID:jsOw+v2B No.5877397 Ignore Report Quick Reply

some wrestlers wear partial face masks as part of their entrance attire. it's a relatively new concept.
Antonio Honda - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:18:22 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5877399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Christopher Nowinski - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:26:53 EST ID:W8eNcSW/ No.5877406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
they have to cover their baby faces somehow
WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:36:59 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5877412 Ignore Report Quick Reply

"Progress fans, you're all drunks. Now, I worship Hunter!"
Jon Bolen - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:41:26 EST ID:Doz3kp8+ No.5877416 Ignore Report Quick Reply


Just do the Bate/Dunne program and be done with it
TAKA Michinoku - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:19:41 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.5877437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:49:25 EST ID:jsOw+v2B No.5877464 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The last time this happened we got Dunne vs. Dijak out of it so I'm hyped
Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:16:25 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5877562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BOLA is up on XWT if you can't wait for it to be shown in the tubes.
Tyler Black - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:17:21 EST ID:vqZLVgjm No.5877563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When is tubes showing?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:22:56 EST ID:WDAOYqpH No.5877570 Report Quick Reply
This weekend.
Leia Meow - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:23:43 EST ID:Nd3WFycx No.5877571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lykos is covering that shitty mask
Leia Meow - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:28:45 EST ID:Nd3WFycx No.5877575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Super Mario Odyssey, BOLA, and a test I have to pass if I wanna transfer out of my shitty school all on Friday
Wew lad
Madison Eagles - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:42:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5877773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll tolerate him for Da Hit Squad, DEEJ, RSP, Kyle the Beast, Bill Carr, and Brute Van Slyke

this show is going to get F U N K Y
Gail Kim - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:32:24 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5877999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reminder that Glacier was at ROH this year
Greg Iron - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:28:15 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5878569 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Maybe they can dress it up a little bit or change the lighting.

I don't know, they just need to do something to give that building an identity and personality.
Danny Basham - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 22:10:45 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5878649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
they were in atlanta
Pitbull - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 22:54:14 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5878692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is the 10 man from bola 2016 the greatest match of all time?
Attache - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 00:01:29 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5878735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WrestleCircus is doing Matt Riddle vs Sammy Guevara at their next show so regretfully I have to actually pay attention them for once
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 00:02:45 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5878736 Report Quick Reply
WrestleCircus, House of Hardcore and NXT are gonna all be on at the same time on November 18. Lots to watch on that day.
Jackson James - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:51:22 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5879197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Truly the biggest booking of the double shot

Also watching BOLA was there a given reason as to The Elite match being handcam only no commentary?
WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:10:29 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5879205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Going to this show tonight. Apart from Sammy Guevara it's a show of Literally Who's, BUT they're offering it as a budget show... $25 front row, $10 everywhere else tickets.

They will also be announcing who Sami Callihan's opponent is for the next big DEFY show, which already has Shane Strickland vs Brody King and Tom Lawlor vs Ethan Page on it.
Mildred Burke - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:16:21 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5879209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
revpro is killing it
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:39:17 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5879309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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First match made for Survival of the Fitttest weekend
Rayna Von Tash - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:09:55 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5879327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Corazón de León !XxZFXH5yTI - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:44:10 EST ID:6KXLDb13 No.5879391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone going to the Revolver show on Saturday? I want to go, but at the same time I kind of don't. It's going to be cold outside.
Hiroshi Tanahashi - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:49:32 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5879400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it = the UK scene?
Acid Jaz - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 22:21:48 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5879494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
RIDDLE VS COBB mann goooooooo
Acid Jaz - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:36:36 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5879739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
poor eddie
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:08:36 EST ID:i3YvViK+ No.5880143 Report Quick Reply
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I’n at NOVA Pro Pumpkin Spice Lariats tonight and fans can wear wrestling costumes to the show. This is ring announcer Bryan Hughes’ costume.
Spardot !SPQRqHx0.E - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:57:23 EST ID:NZEW8Jw8 No.5880179 Report Quick Reply

Flyinrusso - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:46:08 EST ID:hZu93onU No.5880214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That is absolutely priceless!
Steve The Turtle Weiner - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 03:51:35 EST ID:lHgC3ZBQ No.5880343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sat next to him at Progress in Orlando, he's a good dude.
Ranjin Singh - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 09:31:35 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5880414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Could be pretty good
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:51:52 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5880566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Last night's NOVA Pro show was decent and the main event between Sonjay Dutt and DJZ was a fun and fast paced X Division style match. But Jordynne Grace vs. Fred Yehi was the MOTN and it was just an awesome match to see live. Yehi has such great heel mannerisms in his character and ringwork and Grace plays a good babyface in peril. Such a hard hitting back and forth between them. Not surprised that WWE signed Yehi and I'm damn sure that Grace is on WWE's radar.

The finish was that Grace's boyfriend Jonathan Gresham, who had come down to ringside, threw in the towel after Yehi kept bicycle kicking her till she couldn't respond. Finish made sense to help set up for a rematch between Gresham and Yehi at 11th Dimension next month. Their last match in May at The Great Grapsy was one of the best NOVA Pro matches so far this year in my opinion.

Yeah he's a cool dude and a good ring announcer. I actually met him through this site since he watches fights on /mma/tube and saw my name on there and that I posting about NOVA Pro on here.
Scott Parker - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 20:35:57 EST ID:d9U+auV2 No.5882636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:40:37 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5882714 Report Quick Reply
Here’s the results from ROH Soaring Eagle Cup and CHIKARA’s two shows this past weekend:

>ROH - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/10/28/roh-102817-soaring-eagle-cup-results/
>CHIKARA - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/10/28/chikara-102817-deep-breath-good-man-goes-war-results/
Rayna Von Tash - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:50:12 EST ID:ztzOjTTA No.5882722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Naito in America outside of ROH
>Working with AR Fox and Sami Callihan of all people
I mean the Fox match should be good since their styles should mesh but there's got to be better matches for you to book.
Joey Styles - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:52:32 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5882734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what a time to be alive
Kid Kash - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:55:38 EST ID:cKg/OJrT No.5882736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Psycho Clown - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:01:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5882744 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Wrestling Twitter is saying this means Naito is NOT winning at Wrestle Kingdom because NJPW wouldn't let their new IWGP champ who just dethroned the record-breaking Okada reign start touring US indies

Are there any NJPW tour dates that conflict with this or the Glory Pro show?

Part of me thinks its the opposite: with NJPW wanting to expand in the US, they are sending their champ on "expedition" of sorts to test his drawing ability with American fans before their anchor a big US show around him
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:35:52 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5882803 Report Quick Reply
This would be in between The New Beginning and Honor Rising.
Ricardo Rodriguez - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:39:16 EST ID:bu8UMhjh No.5882806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
notice okada only works ROH in the US, though. The fact that Okada hasn't wrestled anywhere else in the US makes me believe they have some sort of agreement where the IWGP champ only works ROH in the US. I can't imagine wrestling in front of 100s of people at AAW and the wrestling revolver is the best way to "Expand" in the US. This really is what ROH is for.
Psycho Clown - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:50:50 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5882813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i really want Naito to win at WK tho
Buddy Rogers - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:52:58 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5882815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okada isn't working the Fantastica Mania Korakuen shows. Very likely he's losing.
Maxine - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 11:42:13 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5883811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Shane Taylor's ROH theme song
sounds like something you'd hear on a TV ad for one of those El Rey horror movie blocks
Chyna - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 11:57:52 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5883822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
to be fair Okada probably still gets flashbacks wrestling in America, you're overthinking this way too much it's just a dude taking lucrative bookings pretty much being organized and chaperoned by Elgin
John Laurinaitis - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 22:29:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5884235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Powerbomb uploaded IWA MS, Alpha-1, AIW and some rrrrrrrrrreal indie deep cuts like
>Mike Quackenbush vs El Hijo del Santo

C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 10:57:49 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5884512 Report Quick Reply
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New matches made for ROH Elite and Sunshine State Excellence next weekend. The Elite are main eventing both shows and should sell out. Kenny Omega is also signed for Night 1 of Survival of the Fittest 2017 in San Antonio the weekend after.
Retail Dragon - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 17:19:36 EST ID:ooxghLVe No.5885588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watching the latest Progress show and the gulf between the Fight Club guys and Projo guys in that opening six man tag is just embarrassing.
VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 19:02:28 EST ID:3y7WuOMC No.5885642 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's not too surprising. Mark Davis has been wrestling for ten years and Omari for at least 3. I'm pretty sure the Projo guys meanwhile are all in their first 18 months. Connor I'm pretty sure debuted this year.
Rizokahn - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 00:10:32 EST ID:SXM2Mz+H No.5885800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Lakeland show is taking place at the same arena as this year's Supercard of Honor (strangely enough, they also renamed the arena a month after this show). I dunno how the seating arrangement is gonna be, but I don't think they'll have as many seats available for the show.

I'm also shocked that they're going back to the Nashville Municipal Auditorium beginning of next year. The last time they were there (early 2016), they introduced the new set. But the arena looked so fucking dire with the small crowd in a big ass building.

I'm thinking they'll do better this time around since The Young Bucks and Cody's name value is fairly strong. Plus, they could try to get a few Memphis legends to appear as well.
Monster C - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 02:01:01 EST ID:ECPVV2LS No.5885840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Former AAW Champion Jimmy Jacobs returned tonight after the main event and challenged Fenix for the belt in November. Strickland and Elgin was match of the night. Best indy in the states tbh.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 02:54:50 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5885858 Report Quick Reply
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New matches announced including Cody vs. Rocky Romero for the world title

They’ve been doing bigger crowds nowadays thanks to Bullet Club and NJPW.
WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 03:06:54 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5885860 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Cody vs Rocky Romero

Okay, out of curiosity I looked up Cody's title defenses so far, since I couldn't remember a single one of them. Turns out, other than Kazarian, he's faced nothing but losers or NJPW stars.

It feels like such a waste of the ROH Title to have him not, you know, defending against ROH talent who earn title shots. While Cody isn't an amazing in-ring talent, good booking could make his title reign feel special, instead it just feels like a giant pile of nothing.
Tito Santana - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 04:27:30 EST ID:4Om9IAfk No.5885877 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That's just ROH in general for you.
Classy Freddie Blassie - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 08:03:30 EST ID:7w7yxIpD No.5885915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Isn't the gimmick that he's ducking actual ROH talent?
El Hijo del Ice Cream - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 08:05:27 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5885917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's being built up for Dalton Castle at Final Battle and that'll be his first legitimately built up title match since winning the belt in June. ROH sucks lol
Go Shiozaki - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 09:36:27 EST ID:WXyiPksQ No.5885945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes. They're building to a Dalton Castle match.
WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:28:24 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5886158 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If this all builds to Dalton Castle taking the belt from him it'll be worth it because Dalton is the fucking man.

But it's ROH. I could honestly see Cody winning that feud.
Arnold Skaaland - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 22:31:25 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5886394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>elite vs best friends forever
dream match
Burning Andrès Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 02:56:57 EST ID:PWB3DerC No.5886520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fellas what's some good stuff on powerbomb.tv

are team pawg fun to watch

many thanks
Mabel - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 03:41:00 EST ID:ztzOjTTA No.5886527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure what Powerbomb's whole library is like but I'd recommend anything of Beyond's since Beyond is the best American indie. C4 I know is on there and is probably the best Canadian indie (I hear their April show did Gresham vs Josh Alexander in a clinic but I haven't seen it).

Team PAWG is very fun since while the gimmick is that they're both THICC they're also both good workers and they have a mentor/student dynamic since Lufisto is a veteran in her 30s and Jordynne is barely 21. They had a great tag against Dickinson & Jaka at Beyond Americanrana this year; Chris gave Jordynne a contender for 2017's nastiest German Suplex.
Burning Andrès Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 04:45:10 EST ID:PWB3DerC No.5886545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cheers matey, the Beyond selection looks good and I've heard great things
Sherri Martel - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 07:28:59 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5886617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
prelude to death 07
riddle vs lawlor is on there heard it was pretty neat
Arnold Skaaland - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:00:43 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5886635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Arnold Skaaland - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 11:56:36 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5886837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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David Otunga - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 09:21:13 EST ID:M368Zyzu No.5887701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Your dad has found a very large tag team partner.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 10:40:20 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5887727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Got some news and results here:

>Combat Zone Wrestling (CZW) is the only major American wrestling promotion, other than WWE, to enter into the Chinese wrestling video market via ShuaiJiao Wang! New matches will be posted weekly on their service, translated into Mandarin by the ShuaiJiao Wang team for the Chinese audience. This aims to stop rampant piracy of CZW in China on various platform, making ShuaiJiao the exclusive, official distributor of CZW in China.

>China’s Middle Kingdom Wrestling is working with Combat Zone Wrestling management to possible arrange for CZW talent to perform in front of a live audience. This is already creating huge shockwaves within the pro wrestling industry in China. Much more to come on this huge announcement for Combat Zone Wrestling and ShuaiJiao Wang!

>Combat Zone Wrestling, LLC is in its 18th year of operation. Headquarted in the United States, CZW provides monthly events in New Jersey and additional events throughout the United States and abroad, including England, Germany, Japan, and Canada. CZW talent is recognized world-wide and has recent roster members seen regularly on programming for World Wrestling Entertainment, Impact Wrestling, Lucha Underground, and more.

And here's the results from CHIKARA, AAW, RevPro and OTT:

>CHIKARA - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/05/chikara-hour-power-11052017-results/
>AAW - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/05/aaw-110317-hell-hath-no-fury-results/ and http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/05/aaw-110417-rise-dragon-results/
>RevPro - https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/results-rpw-revprouk-live-at-the-cockpit-22-live-results/
>OTT - https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/results-ott-ott_wrestling-vendetta-full-results/

Also Defiant Wrestling announced its lineup for its first show WeAreDefiant - https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/announcement-defiant-defiantwres-wearedefiant-six-confirmed-matches/
Kodama - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 11:21:28 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5887744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope it works out for CZW, partially because I like CZW, and partially because there would be a certain level of hilarity of Sami Callihan making money from China when Vince is still trying. Not sure that you can really stop rampant chinese piracy though.
Ron Garvin - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 12:31:54 EST ID:AdTonDvv No.5887782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why can't Keith Lee be tagging with Juice instead of Sami fucking Callihan
Johnny B. Badd - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:17:50 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5887904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jolly Roger - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:42:23 EST ID:gs1pjzU3 No.5887924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why does every brit have the same “gimmicks”?
Kodama - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:46:32 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5887931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this when we pretend "wears a coat and glasses" is the extent of both Scurll and Websters gimmicks?
Captain Lou Albano - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:51:11 EST ID:ooxghLVe No.5887936 Ignore Report Quick Reply

How is Webster's gimmick the same as any of the big Britwres guys?

Do you have any reasoning to back up what you said or are you just shitposting? I'll wait.
Nikita Koloff - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:57:13 EST ID:mq6hGjtw No.5887946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Y'all being deliberately obtuse here. He has the gimmicks in quotation marks so it shouldn't be hard to understand he doesn't mean the actual gimmicks but probably is referring to their looks.

Also, the real answer is that it's just what British people think looks cool.
Leva Bates - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 16:02:24 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5887950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
even pretending gimmick is a synonym for look I can't really of anyone with a similar look unless you believe simply wearing a coat = the same
Reckless Youth - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:57:10 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5888989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Christie Ricci - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 21:49:40 EST ID:xgGYLFn5 No.5889095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Too bad if it's not because Arrow S6 sucks after a seemingly revived S5, I'd probably care about Cody a bit
Road Warrior Hawk - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 12:25:13 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5889527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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MEN's Teioh - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 13:26:46 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5889576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Being trained by Gage and Homicide would be a hell of an experience
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 13:45:11 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5889599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Two new matches signed for Elite and Sunshine State Excellence. Plus four non-tournament matches signed for Survival of the Fittest 2017: Night 1 including the main event between The Addiction and Bullet Club's Cody and Kenny Omega.
Wahoo McDaniel - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:50:18 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5890311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beth Phoenix - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 10:50:21 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.5890376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone going to these to see Kenny Omega be warned, I was at Global Wars and it took an hour and a half to see Kenny. So if you are going to get a pic/autograph with him or any of the BC, get in line as SOON as you walk in the building so you don't miss the first few matches.
Flyinrusso - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 12:12:45 EST ID:qarByUb5 No.5890418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The first matches for EVOLVE 97 have been announced.

>Main Event #1 – EVOLVE Championship Match: Zack Sabre Jr. defends vs. Jaka (with Stokely Hathaway)

>Main Event #2 – The Rivalry EVOLVEs: Matt Riddle vs. WALTER

>High Stakes Three-Way Match – Non-Title: WWN Champion Keith Lee vs. Tracy Williams with (Stokely Hathaway) vs. Darby Allin

>tfw Riddle vs WALTER is happening at the show i'm going to
Samoa Joe - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 12:18:09 EST ID:ivIhMNZu No.5890422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I happened to randomly run into kenny omega on my way home from Work as he was leaving his hotel. I also noticed all the Japanese fan girls stalking the hotel didn't even bother squeaking at him. When I hear stories from autograph signings I consider myself very lucky.
WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 13:21:00 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5890474 Ignore Report Quick Reply

So I need some clarification here... the EVOLVE title is only defended in EVOLVE, while the WWN title is defended across all WWN brands?

Even though there are only a few WWN brands and I'm pretty sure the EVOLVE title has been defended outside of EVOLVE?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 13:28:10 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5890483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Two title matches signed for Survival of the Fittest 2017: Night 2 and Madison Rayne makes her ROH debut on Night 3.
Wahoo McDaniel - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 13:33:46 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5890492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lucky bastard
Arnold Skaaland - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 14:50:22 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5890540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Damien Demento - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 15:22:56 EST ID:sHPhguFI No.5890549 Ignore Report Quick Reply

dat 2007 TNA invasion

Imagine the reaction you would get 10 years ago with that picture.
MVP - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 15:24:18 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5890550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Announcements for 16 Carat this far out is good. Not sure how they can top this year's, but as long as guys like WALTER, Thatcher, Starr, and Dragunov are in it I know it's possible. Hoping for another crazy left-field pick like Kanemoto.

Also yeah Haskins is fine.
Mascarita Dorada - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 16:03:03 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5890558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is she still "Madison Rayne"? or is that name a TNA/GFW/whatever exclusive?
Arnold Skaaland - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 16:33:20 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5890581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tetsuya Natio - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 16:54:07 EST ID:Rn++FayK No.5890592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
they're some grizzled young vets, they're some grizzled young vets

worked so many towns that sometimes they forget
MVP - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:32:59 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5890619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is PROGRESS trying to see how many Chapters in a row they can book a match where Gibson is the only one in it I remotely give a fuck about? Because they've been successful for quite a while now.
Hey - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:57:50 EST ID:1Z9h8Qu3 No.5890637 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What do you have against Seven and Bate, K-Brad?
MVP - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 18:39:26 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5890666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've seen enough of all three BSS guys for one year. Dunne has gotten stale, Seven has never been that good outside of his chops and piledriver, and Bate's work is dragged down by constantly being involved with the other two and the bland BSS shtick. The only way I can get into a BSS match now is if they're facing two of my favorites, like when they worked WALTER & Thatcher in Boston who got a **** match out of them.

Also even if I wasn't bored of BSS I can't care about a match with UK James Drake in it, period. Between him and Eddie Dennis and fucking Joseph Conners as heels while turning BSS face for the sake of it, I don't know what the fuck PROGRESS is doing right now. Gibson promos, anything Jinny does, and whatever WALTER & Banks are doing with their titles are just about the only things I truly care about anymore.
Tomko - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 18:50:27 EST ID:ooxghLVe No.5890680 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah recent PROGRESS developments have been mystifying. Except turning Haskins heel, best move they've done in a bit.
Io Shirai - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 19:54:22 EST ID:dM1gsPmz No.5890728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, but you don't have to drag K-Brad into this. He dindu nuffin.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:08:27 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5890735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The main event of Final Battle is officially confirmed plus a match signed for Survival of the Fittest: Night 2. They already signed Cody vs. Kota for Wrestle Kingdom but NJPW did say that if Cody lost, then it would just be a special singles match, which leaves open the possibility of Dalton winning the title.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 09-11-2017 20:11:04
MEN's Teioh - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:19:27 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5890744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>There is a chance Castle will win the title despite Cody already having a match with Ibushi at the Dome
>While Dalton wouldn't get to the Dome (unless he's a surprise in the Pre-Show Rumble), he ALSO can't drop it within a month like O'Reilly did to Cole
I can only hope ROH doesn't fuck this up this one time.
Giant Baba - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:25:21 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5890746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>7 isnt that good
delete this
MEN's Teioh - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:34:25 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5890751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Name a good singles match he's had.
TAJIRI - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:35:53 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5890752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As someone who still likes BSS a fair bit he really isn't
VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:44:54 EST ID:3y7WuOMC No.5890760 Ignore Report Quick Reply

vs. Jordan Devlin in ICW this year
MEN's Teioh - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:52:54 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5890769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eh, it's one of those where it was just a match until someone starts bleeding like crazy and that immediately gives it more heat and the guy bleeding gets some sort of extra natural adrenaline from it. Even then, you can attribute it more to Devlin in that case.

Unless that's a different match than the one I'm thinking of.
Bullfight Sora - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 03:43:03 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5890942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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hello yes where do i buy a ticket to watch someone die
GnomeDar - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:20:30 EST ID:WixNGwWx No.5890948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dunne drags down everyone who either wrassles with him or tags with him. Glad he won't shit up anywhere anymore.
Ultimo Dragon - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:47:22 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5890990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shitting fuck that didn't take long.
Ultimo Dragon - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:59:18 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5890996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Haskins @ the Cockpit. MiniHoss fest, genuinely surprising how good it was.
>implying NJPW won't pull rank just to get another title on their big show
Kyle winning at Final Battle was an anomaly 10 whole years in the making. It's the show face pushes go to die.
Papaya - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:39:57 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5891038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
kind of weird that GameChanger and CZW are standing by SHLAK even after Gabe dropped him once the Nazi ties became public knowledge
Ultimo Dragon - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:13:49 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5891056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
...How is that weird in the slightest?
Jimmy Wang Yang - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:21:42 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5891058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm pretty sure 99.9999% of the types of people that go to those shows couldn't give a fuck if he had a walk in oven and used it often in his spare time
Papaya - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:39:49 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5891072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
because SHLAK has nazi ties and a promoter with close ties to WWE already drew attention to the fact that this is bad for business. OTT and Rev Pro have been getting shit for booking BRAM due to his domestic assault issues and they look like idiots trying to justify it by saying "but the boys like him."

Are guys like Bram and Shlak really the hills that indies should be dying on?

i'm sure people can't wait to apply their selective moral outrage and say "wrestling is scummy, why are you surprised, fans don't care, why do you want wrestling to be gluten free hurr durr" but fans actually DO care

Plus, there's a certain kind of white trash vibe around the NJ/Philly indie scene, especially CZW and GameChanger, and with Sami Callihan gaining more influence booking influence over the local locker rooms, it just feels like the cringe is going to turn up to 11. Callihan's visibility is only increasing and his work has gotten worse, the Crists are getting overexposed and the domestic assault accusations are not getting quieter.
he doesn't really have the fan goodwill to justify the actions he probably took in his personal life. his girlfriend jessica havok never really recovered from the n-word debacle, and she hasn't done anything to earn a second chance except be callihan's girlfriend.

i'm not saying blacklist these people forever but they need to do a better job answering to the public. and it would be great if the local locker rooms could monitor themselves to make sure this kind of shit doesn't keep going unchecked because none of these workers are all that good to justify the bookings. i would have no problem with kingston stiffing shlak to teach him a lesson in their match

"a wife beater and his racist girlfriend booking a nazi for light tube matches" is kind of a bad look for wrestling
Jimmy Wang Yang - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:13:37 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5891097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>OTT and Rev Pro have been getting shit for booking BRAM due to his domestic assault issues and they look like idiots trying to justify it by saying "but the boys like him."
Well it seems to have very little effect on their business so why bother throwing a fellow wrestler to the wolves
Richie Steamboat - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:41:56 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5891112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SHLAK is not actually a Nazi though.
Obariyon - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:46:20 EST ID:XzCk1qrP No.5891116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
he quacks incredibly like a duck
Papaya - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:15:33 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5891125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how many photos do you take of you sieg heil saluting with known white power leaders?
Silver King - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:17:39 EST ID:wnjg9MKc No.5891128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shut up. It's fucking wrestling, who cares if he made tattoo on nazis if he is a good wrestler? Also, the only people who dislike Callihan are a few lame faggots on /wooo/ and puro fans who thinks the only type of wrestling that should exist is Tanahashi style.

The CZW and GCW fans will keep going to the shows and supporting guys like Nick Cage and Shlak, cause they are great characters and wrestlers. And thats all that matters.

>"a wife beater and his racist girlfriend booking a nazi for light tube matches" is kind of a bad look for wrestling

Who cares about what normalfags and non-fans will think?

I hope New Jack stabs you favourite wrestler.
Tiger Mask - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:26:05 EST ID:CsFq65tm No.5891130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
go clutch pearls in another entertainment genre
wrestling is drug addled carnies dropping each other on their heads
they're all shit
Papaya - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:11:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5891158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>getting this rustled over shlak
he isn't even *that* good.

also gage is better and has addressed issues, don't drag him into it

>they're all shit
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:57:53 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5891236 Report Quick Reply
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The Dawgs vs. Rey Cometa and Esfinge signed for Night 1. Also here are the first round matches of this year's tournament:

>Jay Lethal vs. Punishment Martinez - Night 1
>Beer City Bruiser vs. Shane Taylor - Night 1
>Silas Young vs. Josh Woods - Night 1
>Matt Taven vs. Cheeseburger - Night 2
>TK O'Ryan vs. Flip Gordon - Night 2
>Vinny Marseglia vs. Jonathan Gresham - Night 2

The winners of the first round matches will face each other in the finals on Night 3, which is a six-way elimination match, with the winner receiving a future world title shot.

That's true. Kyle only really won to convince him to stay in ROH but since he didn't re-sign, they just had Cole regain the title.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 10-11-2017 14:02:58
Ultimo Dragon - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:05:10 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5891297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Plus, there's a certain kind of white trash vibe around the NJ/Philly indie scene, especially CZW and GameChanger
Exactly. Ergo: how is that weird in the slightest?
You phrased it as though they were Evolve's sister promotions & that you couldn't comprehend why they would do such a thing. Fact is they're different companies providing a different experience for a different audience. An audience that DOESN'T care, for all the preempting. Some of them might even enjoy it. Sure wrestling doesn't have to be inherently scummy. By the same token it's not inherently spotless because believe-it-or-not 'scummy' people have money too. Live and let live, other people like what you don't, don't get wound up over shit that's clearly not for your sensibilities. I used to wish Nick Gage was blackballed from the entire industry. And RVD. And maybe Roderick Strong at one point. But I'm one consumer with one opinion and one wallet so what the fuck ever.
Also, we've got a word filter. You can write jolly african-american.
MEN's Teioh - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:24:46 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5891306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Also, the only people who dislike Callihan are a few lame faggots on /wooo/ and puro fans who thinks the only type of wrestling that should exist is Tanahashi style.
Sami has actively gotten worse this year. His first year back on the indies he was putting in fucking WORK and was one of the top guys on the scene in terms of star power and overall quality output. His AAW heel run put that company on the map. In 2017 he's used that star power he generated to influence the scene and give spots to guys he likes while having matches he wants to have.

Guess what? Callihan's taste in wrestling is bad. He's giving spots to OI4K and Dezmond Xavier who are generic flippy indie guys personified, and even if they invent some weird new contrived spot or have Jake Crist kiss somebody for no reason it doesn't change how bland 90% of their matches are. Callihan and his crew (the ones I mentioned, Zachary Wentz, Jason Cade, Shane Strickland on occasion) are putting on some of the most spot-heavy, disconnected, contrived, unfunny (while trying to be funny), and just straight-up bad matches of the past 12 months. The only one connected to Callihan that still puts on great matches with great story/psychology is David Starr, and I'd attribute that to his extensive time working Beyond and wXw, companies that value that sort of thing.

Compare people in Sami's crew to the crop of young talent trained by Elgin and you see a VAST rift in wrestling ideology being instilled in them. Big Mike's students (Myron Reed, Curt Stallion, PACO, Jake Something, etc.) all have REALLY good match pacing and can build to climaxes in matches with significant story. There's brawlers, fliers, and hosses alike under Elgin's wing but they all feel like well-rounded talents. Seeing Elgin & Callihan's combined influence and the huge differences between them juxtaposed on your average AAW undercard is really interesting stuff, but at the same time I think it's a shame that Sami's approach is more popular because it does crazy shit all the time to pop crowds (even if it has to constantly add a new crazy thing because the old crazy things are just spots they do all the time now).
Wataru Inoue - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:25:45 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5891309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck Shlak and fuck GCW and the northeast garbage wrestling scene. Hope that fucker doesn't show up in Beyond since Drew Cordiero thinks GCW are a good partner.

CZW I can tolerate since it got less deathmatch heavy. I hope Callihan has been keeping that up under his booking.
Ultimo Dragon - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:28:30 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5891311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Compare people in Sami's crew to the crop of young talent trained by Elgin. Big Mike's students all have REALLY good match pacing and can build to climaxes in matches with significant story.
It's funny to think how absolutely backwards this statement would've seemed a few years ago.
Lacey - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:05:34 EST ID:Tb9jzUK8 No.5891447 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Give it time, Drew loves that trash. Helped get CZW their providence date, started booking uninteresting bump/deathmatch guys like Stockade, Janela and Gage, just co promoted with GCW. Enough people will probably eat it up too.
WrestlingTheSport - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:17:26 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5891453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Going to DEFY 9 tonight, last show of the year for them. Here's the card:

>DEFY Championship: Shane Strickland (c) defends vs Brody King
>"Filthy" Tom Lawlor (w/ Bryan Alvarez) vs "All Ego" Ethan Page
>Sami Callihan vs "Ravenous" Randy Myers
>The Amerikan Gunz (Ethan HD and "The Heat Seakin' Puerto Rican" Mike Santiago) vs Jorel Nelson and Matt XStatic
>SCHAFF vs Clark Connors (w/ Rebel Kel)
>Jessicka Havok vs Malia Hosaka
Shayne Hawke - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:48:07 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5891474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just discovered them and went to my first Beyond show for Apocalypse Dudes. I'm in NY's capital region. NEW or anything I want to see that's worth a shit that isn't some shindie is at least an hour and a half/two hours away.

At least Drew seems to value variety in his shows. I hope the New Year's Eve show, since it's hinted to be a long one, is a show with Progress or literally anyone besides GCW.
Eli Cottonwood - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 22:27:38 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5891548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
does anyone watch wrestling revolver?
Terra Ryzin - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 22:35:46 EST ID:CIzWq/Ql No.5891553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Waiting for this APW show to start. Was supposed to start at 6:30, then 7, then 7:10, and now 7:45 because Rey Misterio was delayed in traffic. I expect this show to now go until 12:30.
Go Shiozaki - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 22:40:31 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5891556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Their Mania Weekend show was alright. The best match was the opener (Starr vs Cobb) though. Haven't seen anything since because I don't have a lot of want to watch Callihan's promotion. I might catch a match or two eventually because they're booking Irie though.
Eric Bischoff - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 00:39:14 EST ID:zstfZfPe No.5891602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Coming to you from DEFY...

Sami Callihan vs “Ravenous” Randy Myers was taped for Impact, will air on the 30th of November. Awesome match, closer to Sami’s 2016 work than husband OVE stuff. Seriously watch this match.
The Miz - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 01:03:13 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5891612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
another good sami match from this year was him vs jay white at revpro usa
Goldberg - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:49:29 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5891642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've seen less than 10 of his matches outright and can tell you that's bullshit.
Batista - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 05:00:30 EST ID:/Ieo90j6 No.5891685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Show was fun but I was vastly disappointed by Cobb vs. Swagger. Not sure who to blame, and I like both guys.

Reno Scum vs. Unbreakable F'n Machines was great.
Mysterio/Juventud vs. Lucha Bros was sick.

Rest of the card was okay.
Goldberg - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 05:13:03 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5891689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The one indie Swagger match I've seen was surprisingly good despite his IDGAFgear, so hearing it's not explicitly his fault is nice. Suggests he's still trying.
Batista - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 05:20:14 EST ID:/Ieo90j6 No.5891693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Swagger was in the full offense the whole time. I really cannot think of what Cobb did besides a moonsault, a couple suplexes, and his finish. It could've been a whole lot more but it just ended. Just felt so off.
WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:46:47 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5891727 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Might just be an example of two guys who don't click.
Terri Runnels - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:39:13 EST ID:69p5aYfk No.5891838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, those sound like my impressions as well, 'cept the Swagger match was about what I expected.

Crowd was hot for that tag title match.
Ernie Ladd - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:38:48 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5892244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did anyone here go to global wars uk?
Jackie Gayda - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:43:19 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5892247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah went to night 1
Ernie Ladd - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 09:29:47 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5892550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tommy Dreamer - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:36:57 EST ID:Doz3kp8+ No.5892591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So, just got through Progress Chapter 56...

So what the hell is happening?
>BSS get the most baffling face-turn since Rollins' botched turn last year. I get it, they're popular, but that just seemed wrong with no build. Dunne HAS to be leaving soon and Bate can't be far behind (unless the UK show actually happens, in which case FUCK)
>Joseph Conners debuts and is presumably shot to the top. Please don't.
>Gibson is getting a bit of a push. Unfortunately it's with James "the most boring person on the planet" Drake
>Haskins and Havoc turn heel. Yeah, their face runs this year have been lacking, but this just feels like tipping the balance at the top of the card ESPECIALLY if BSS fuck off. Add to that the Dennis heel turn (which had great execution and I'm actually looking forward to the Andrews feud) and just what the shit is happening.
>Sexsmith is groomed for a vastly bigger role in 2018. Not sure if this is a good thing. He's still improving, but he's nowhere near the top level yet.
>WALTER is a great Atlas-champ and Thatcher work in Europe is finally clicking with me
>If BSS are gone by the end of the year, your top faces are Banks, Andrews, SEXSMITH and Flash (feat. Riddle when he's around) with CCK at the tag division and WALTER in Atlas. Heel side? Havoc, Haskins, Dennis, Conners, Davis with Gibson and the other one in the tag division and no clear top heel in Atlas (or I guess Davis goes there?)

On the plus side, Aussie Open looked great. Not a bad show by any means (all matches were good to great), but the booking is a bit... baffling.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:13:09 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5892726 Report Quick Reply
Results are up from ROH Elite and CZW Night of Infamy:

>ROH - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/11/roh-111117-elite-results/
>CZW - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/11/czw-111117-night-infamy-results/
Anarquia - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:14:00 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5892728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why does oi4k need a manager sami can talk and the manager guy is annoying af
Jackie Gayda - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:20:46 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5892736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what are you asking? It was a very good show, Keith lee vs Ishii is probably among my match of the year contenders, Matt Riddle vs El Desperado was pretty good and everything else was fine to good, also maybe I just don't get Gibson but compared to how highly i see people speak of him the Nagata match was a bit disappointing
Deuce - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:09:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5892835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Ricky Shane Page is the CZW champ

>Cage of Death is Shane Strickland vs Joe Gacy vs Page for the title
Jackie Gayda - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:18:59 EST ID:NMTDZEvr No.5892845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if gacy wins i riot
King RIKI - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 19:17:21 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5892931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Make that both of us
Daffney - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:18:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5893021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This tweet contains spoilers for the Tim Storm vs Magnus NWA World Title Match that just wrapped up in Los Angeles Tim Storm retained; is Janela the next challenger? Janela vignettes produced by Corgan & Lagana?

Rowdy Roddy Piper - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:22:04 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5893024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why the fuck isn't AR Fox champion again?
League Manager Y2YAY !fKufr32NAI - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:44:23 EST ID:epfe0UIz No.5893044 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Because he chose to keep getting a blowjob rather than just walking away.
Dasher Hatfield - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:14:16 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5893069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>that spoiler
>my dick
Chris Hero - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:25:12 EST ID:Ap4M35hv No.5893078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Glacier - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:24:31 EST ID:1Z9h8Qu3 No.5893168 Ignore Report Quick Reply

what's wrong with getting a blowjob you fucking faggot
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 09:44:55 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5893318 Report Quick Reply
Results from ROH’s TV Tapings at Sunshine State Excellence - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/13/roh-111217-sunshine-state-excellence-results-tv-spoilers/
Brock Lesnar - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:10:27 EST ID:7w7yxIpD No.5893335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't even like the Briscoes and even said holy fuck do they deserve a better match at Final Battle
Desmond Wolfe - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:42:18 EST ID:sP41Uwlk No.5893347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucking retire already Bubba you fat fuck
Aika Ando - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:53:51 EST ID:M368Zyzu No.5893351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
10 man and main event sound fun.
Sunny - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 12:28:07 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5893418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
keith lee vs ishii was so good lads
Curt Hawkins - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:22:08 EST ID:Tb9jzUK8 No.5893457 Ignore Report Quick Reply

in case you're wondering, David Starr vs. Nick Gage was announced yesterday for the 11/26 Beyond date.
Sarita - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:17:47 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5893631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rev Pro UK has money to book New Japan guys but not to get good mics? The fucking things keep spiking, it's horrible
VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:28:23 EST ID:3y7WuOMC No.5893636 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The sound has never been good. It's even worse live.

Their Portsmouth shows are worse still for that.
Brodie Lee - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:52:42 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5893658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Bully Ray & Tommy Dreamer
pfft hahahahaha
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:15:52 EST ID:PaMFSa/P No.5893668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Results from PROGRESS Chapter 57 - https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/2017/11/12/results-progress-thisis_progress-chapter-57-enter-smiling-live-results/
Dr. Wagner Jr. - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:28:29 EST ID:1YqLk0kC No.5893703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>only 2 matches I care about are the ones with Keith Lee and Ringkampf
>even then I'm not crazy about their opponents
>The fucking state of PROGRESS's entire heel roster
David Otunga - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 22:42:59 EST ID:/Ieo90j6 No.5894044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder if Swagger signing to Bellator was part of the reason why Cobb has almost no offense on him.
Blue Demon - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:09:27 EST ID:lhqQrMWE No.5894341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tommy Dreamer - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:46:21 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5894537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C.W. Anderson - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:50:19 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5894545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WrestleCircus show cancelled:

Not sure what the hell is going on with this promotion lately, but I doubt they last another year.
From the IndieGoGo controversy to being thrown out of buildings, there's something shady about the whole thing.
Jessie McKay - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:51:17 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5894547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>indiegogo controversy
>being thrown out of buildings
mind catching me up on these?
WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:01:29 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5894554 Ignore Report Quick Reply

One thing I've noticed... does WrestleCircus have any local talent? It feels like the whole show is trying to do a PWG-like megashow, but WrestleCircus uses a lot more talent and runs more frequently, so they have to be losing a ton of money.
Amazing Red - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:04:59 EST ID:JcdKU4IF No.5894557 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Doesn't Kevin Condron run that thing? He's always come across online as one step short of a complete mental breakdown.
C.W. Anderson - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:10:21 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5894563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They started an IndieGoGo at the beginning of the year asking for money to move to a bigger place and potentially start a weekly show. People were confused how they were able to afford all the talent on the card but were asking for so much money for everything else. So basically, everyone called them out on their bullshit. When it happened, they instantly backed down and closed the campaign, refunding everyone's money.


They got kicked out of the building their last show was going to be in 24 HOURS before it happened because apparently the owner didn't realize it was a wrestling show and didn't want it there. So they did it in some dimly lit gym instead. Before that show, they went to a place and said they were never returning there again, with no explanation why. Their shows before that were in some building in Austin, TX, which they said they "outgrew" and stopped going to. Again, no real explanation was given why they had to leave and they drew the exact same amount of fans (or a little less at glance) for the last two shows they did.

It's a mess, something is clearly up. Maybe Bischoff backed out of his involvement with it.

To my knowledge, he has some hand in the backstage workings.

It's pretty much a money mark promotion, like the WCPW of Texas.
Grizzly Redwood - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:13:38 EST ID:Tb9jzUK8 No.5894998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>which they said they "outgrew" and stopped going to

this is code for "this raised the rent on us"
Jimmy Rave - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:54:22 EST ID:odE8Jqqa No.5895033 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Condron runs creative/booking for the shows. The money mark couple just finances the operation and then delegates down to Condron to handle all of the wrestling stuff, which is why a large chunk of each show is dedicated to separate, bizarre angles involving Condron as his kayfabe character and Condron as Jervis Cottonbelly.
Rizokahn - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:04:10 EST ID:n5o9wzab No.5895301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So this is happening.
Jack Swagger - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:08:32 EST ID:n9cddglU No.5895309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the only reason why anyone liked that shitty money mark fed is because they pandered hard to le circlejerk community
P.N. News - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:15:15 EST ID:nL3N+/CI No.5895325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just when I thought ROH couldn't get any worse
Haku - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:18:35 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5895328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Will they do the spot tho
P.N. News - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:22:07 EST ID:nL3N+/CI No.5895331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
actually thinking about it this is probably just ROH picking up Joey's WrestleCircus booking so whatever. He's almost literally the last person I'd get from that show, but at least it's probably just a one-off
Papaya - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:20:07 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5895381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ROH has been good this year, but okay. Whatever floats your boat. This is likely just a one-off like Mr. Anderson.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:28:46 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5895496 Report Quick Reply
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More matches for Survival of the Fittest including Daniels vs. Cody for the world title in a Texas Deathmatch.

Tease n' Sleaze Explodes!
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:34:11 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5895510 Report Quick Reply
NOVA Pro made two big announcements last night:

>On the evening of March 10th we will present #RipHerToShreds in Annandale, VA which will be our first show with all women’s matches on the card.

>The Commonwealth Cup will return in 2018 with a new format. As it will be a two night tournament with 16 wrestlers on June 8th and June 9th at the AVFD Hall in Annandale, VA

Jimmy Jacobs is also going to be at their first live show on Powerbomb.tv on December 28 at Such Great Heights, which we should be able to stream in /wooo/tube 2.
Rizokahn - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:58:44 EST ID:n5o9wzab No.5895532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly I thought it was interesting to see Joey Ryan compete in ROH considering he's under contract with Lucha Underground. Either they're relaxing the contract rules until filming begins next year or some guys got out of their deal.

>Daniels vs. Scurll
I kinda wanna see that now.
P.N. News - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:03:25 EST ID:nL3N+/CI No.5895533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's not a TV taping so they probably don't care
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:09:46 EST ID:WEv4LAOt No.5895536 Report Quick Reply
Given that LU wrestlers are in Impact on TV and PPV, I don’t think it would matter if it was ROH either even if it wasn’t a VOD show.
P.N. News - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:12:06 EST ID:nL3N+/CI No.5895538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I figured that was due to the relationship between Impact and AAA but honestly who knows at this point
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:14:38 EST ID:WEv4LAOt No.5895540 Report Quick Reply
I mean it could be since ROH and CMLL have a working relationship and all though I don’t think CMLL would give a shit unless it was like someone that wrestles for LU but also wrestles for AAA.
Pitbull - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:20:16 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5896447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
these all sound good
Tugboat - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:12:00 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5897222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Devil Masami - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:50:53 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5897248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lookin' into 90s indies.

Sabu had his own string of self-promoting Michigan territory literally called "NWA Sabu". Title defenses included Foley, Benoit (no DQ), Osamu Nishimura, and the roots of his feuds with RVD & Taz. they even promoted a "Tazmanian Death Match".

Also this story is a must-listen:
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:03:00 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5897252 Report Quick Reply
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Last match made for Survival of the Fittest weekend and it's a No DQ match.
Amish Roadkill - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:11:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5897758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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250% on board with Billy Corgan's NWA teaming up with CZW at Cage of Death
Ivan Putski - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:57:32 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5897776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dewey is the fuckin man
Little Egypt - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:44:33 EST ID:+f/JvFqp No.5898254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sonjay Dutt - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:50:46 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5898259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why do I feel like the Machine Guns will turn heel to retain here?
Tiger Jeet Singh - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:53:07 EST ID:T9nV8XPs No.5898264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Or even crazier

We getting NWA-CZW
Gorilla Monsoon - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:55:49 EST ID:+f/JvFqp No.5898317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
love the guns but I cant root against chuck
Ortvatistadon - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:06:22 EST ID:D7gI/bLv No.5898340 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I've been enjoying Arrow S6. He's done a decent job maintaining what made S5 good.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:05:47 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5898963 Report Quick Reply
Results from ROH and CHIKARA:

>ROH - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/19/roh-11-17-17-survival-fittest-2017-night-1-results/ and http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/19/roh-11-18-17-survival-fittest-2017-night-2-results/
>CHIKARA - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/17/chikara-silence-library-11-17-17-results/ and http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/11/18/chikara-dark-water-11-18-17-results/
Wil Maximo - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:20:02 EST ID:eUr4zhp0 No.5898971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucking Quackenbush.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:03:02 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5899146 Report Quick Reply
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Scurll-Lethal added for Final Battle.

He booked this shit
Gorilla Monsoon - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 17:42:40 EST ID:+f/JvFqp No.5899347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WALTER challenges Travis Banks to a match the next time wXw are in London.
Sendai Sachiko - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:08:26 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5899622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:10:26 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5899626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>live death in ring
Marc Mero - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 22:57:09 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5899914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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CZW booking the matches people want to see, Jimmy vs. Jacobs
Recon - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 22:59:25 EST ID:+f/JvFqp No.5899925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how long untill tremont vs havoc tho?
Hey - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:01:43 EST ID:1Z9h8Qu3 No.5899934 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You reckon Jimmy’s gonna come out in his white coat?
Mephisto - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:01:53 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5899935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
IPW booked this for march kek, IPW getting beat to the punch in the dream match arms race makes me happy
Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:17:00 EST ID:MFvuOdU6 No.5899970 Report Quick Reply
>the blur on Havoc

Someone used an appealing low res cut out of Havoc if it's looking like that at 800x600
Recon - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:05:47 EST ID:+f/JvFqp No.5900221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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