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Impact/ROH/MLW General Thread #6: Working Together Edition by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:25:21 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6157513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Continuing from last thread >>6080405. General discussion for Impact, ROH, and MLW since they're bigger than indie promotions owned by media companies that have national weekly television shows.

>Impact! airs on Thursdays at 10pm EDT / 3am BST in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt. Replays air on Fridays at 2:30pm EDT / 7:30pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>ROH Wrestling also airs on Thursdays at 9pm EDT / 2am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Fridays at 1:40pm EDT / 6:40pm BST in /wooo/tube.
>Impact One Night Only & Twitch events as well as ROH On Tour events will be shown when scheduled in /wooo/tube. Impact and ROH PPVs will be shown in /wooo/tube as well as in /wooo/alt when scheduled.
>MLW Fusion airs on Mondays at 7pm EDT / 12am BST in /wooo/tube. Replays air on Tuesdays at 11am EDT / 4am BST in /wooo/tube.

>Impact Wrestling:
http://impactwrestling.com/
https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING
https://www.instagram.com/impactwrestling/
https://www.facebook.com/ImpactWrestling/
https://www.youtube.com/user/TNAwrestling
https://www.twitch.tv/impactwrestling
http://globalwrestlingnetwork.com/
http://shopimpact.com/
http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=LOLTNA_History

>Ring of Honor
http://rohwrestling.com/
https://twitter.com/ringofhonor
https://www.instagram.com/ringofhonor
https://www.facebook.com/ringofhonor/
https://www.youtube.com/user/ringofhonor
http://www.rohwrestling.com/shop

>Major League Wrestling
https://mlw.com/
https://twitter.com/MLW
https://www.youtube.com/user/majorleaguewrestling
https://www.facebook.com/majorleaguewrestling/
https://www.instagram.com/majorleaguewrestling/
https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/mlw
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Teddy Hart - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:50:13 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6157567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>taimapedia link
it's never coming back, is it?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:54:30 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6157568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157567
Dunno but I put it in there in case it does
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Rizokahn - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 15:10:37 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6157620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Stuka Jr and Guerrero Maya Jr have been added to ROH Survival Of The Fittest. Currently, there are 13 participants involved at the moment (6 of whom are regulars of the ROH roster).

Also, Kushida has been announced for Global Wars.
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WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 15:36:53 EST ID:oBzrFcJd No.6157634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157620

Also added are Adam Page, Beer City Bruiser, and THE LUCHASAURUS. Making the full lineup:

>Andrew Everett
>Flip Gordon
>Jonathan Gresham
>Marty Scurll
>Tracy Williams
>Colin Delaney
>PJ Black
>Adam Page
>Beer City Bruiser
>Stuka Jr
>Guerrero Maya Jr
>The LUCHASAURUS
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Charles Robinson - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:37:56 EST ID:YZTU4JUe No.6157750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kenny omega vs Fenix at an impact show in November according to Meltzer.
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Private Eye - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:52:14 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6157755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157750
what?
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Wifebeater - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:54:29 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6157756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157750
Omega vs Fenix is at an Indie "Northeast Wrestling". Meltzer said it was unusual for Omega to take this date because its a non-ROH US based Indie.
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Disco Inferno - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:57:57 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6157758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157756
Very odd. But I'm fucking stoked since it's likely my only chance to see Kenny Omega wrestle in person living in Upstate NY. Other than that match, the show is stacked. NEW hasn't run Mid Hudson Civic Center in years and they haven't had HOH there in a long time either.
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Athena - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:30:37 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6157766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Next Friday night terror will rule the ring as Major League Wrestling (“MLW”) and beIN SPORTS presents their first Halloween special on October 26that 8pm ET entitled MLW FRIGHT NIGHT.

>Featuring a night of blood-curdling bouts, the MLW FRIGHT NIGHT special will be headlined by a double main event.

>“England’s Most Dangerous Man” Jimmy Havoc will fight Sami Callihan in a Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal match as their feud reaches its final stage. Who will survive the mayhem? Tune in next Friday to find out!

>The night will also feature a chilling clash as the “French Canadian Frankenstein” PCO rampages with LA Park (presented by Salina de la Renta). In a battle of two destroyers, this monster mash is a match featuringthe most unpredictable brawlers in the sport.

>“We’re excited to bring fans a special night full of chaos, masked monsters and a wheel made out of a buzz saw,” said MLW CEO Court Bauer. “Arguably there is nothing more fun than pro wrestling and Halloween. Combine the two, grab a bag of fun-sized Snickers, fire up beIN SPORTS and enjoy our first-ever Halloween special!”

>Tune in next Friday October 26thfor a night full of frights and delights you won’t soon forget!

>MLW FRIGHT NIGHT will feature the legendary voice of Tony Schiavone and analyst Matt Striker calling the action from New York City.
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Dude Love - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:37:13 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6157769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157766
> Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal
Let me guess, WWE forgot to trademark that too?
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Dude Love - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:38:05 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6157770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6157766
>MLW FRIGHT NIGHT will feature the legendary voice of Tony Schiavone and analyst Matt Striker calling the action from New York City.
Striker? Damnit. What happened to Michael Clone?
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Mark Jindrak - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:02:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6157789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157770
he's only on the Florida tapings; Striker does the NYC shows
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Mark Jindrak - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:05:11 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6157790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Scarlett Bourdeaux is opening her talent search up to EVERYBODY! Send your videos to [email protected] and her next big star could be you!https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/1052197470539837440

PWInsider news
>Jordynne Grace has reportedly signed a long-term deal with Impact Wrestling. PWInsider reports that the word backstage was that Grace has signed a two-year deal. Grace made her debut at Tuesday night’s taping.

>The site notes that Impact worked on possible extensions for a number of talents of their current contracts.
>Sami Callihan and IMPACT Wrestling have come to terms on a new deal, PWInsider.com has confirmed.

>Willie Mack will be working with Impact Wrestling as a regular going forward.

>Impact wrestling loved the Melrose Ballroom for atmosphere and is open to returning to the venue
>The original plan for the Eli Drake mystery opponent at Bound for Glory was Joey Janela, who pulled off the date after suffering a severe knee injury. The plan had been to use the segment to introduce Janela and use him going forward as a regular.
>A source within the company has stated that the last few days of TV taping as the most “relaxing” and “easiest” production days in a long time for the company and noted that they ended up well ahead of pre-shoots and other logistics.
>There were segments written for Austin Aries for this week’s TV tapings that were later changed after the Bound for Glory PPV.

>IMPACT Wrestling will be taping matches in Dayton at The Rockstar Pro Arena show this coming Wed Oct 24th. Advertised for this event: (X-Division Champion) Brian Cage vs Sami Callihan

>Former WCW World Heavyweight Champion David Arquette worked a tag team match at Border City Wrestling's 25th Anniversary show from the St. Clair College Gymnasium in Windsor, Ontario, Canada last weekend. The match will air on the Impact Wrestling One Night Only pay-per-view that premieres Friday, November 9 on their Global Wrestling Network.

>Impact will tape TV in Nashville, TN at the Nashville Fairgrounds Arena on Monday, January 7th, the day after their Homecoming PPV.
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Kharma - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 01:04:20 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6157884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157790
why so many terrible WWE threads on the main page? Glad to see impact tapings go well and it's a real bummer they didn't get Joey janella as a regular. his presence on the show would have been a big deal
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One Man Gang - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 05:13:40 EST ID:1hb/R8pw No.6157936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157790
>Scarlett Bourdeaux is opening her talent search up to EVERYBODY! Send your videos to [email protected] and her next big star could be you!

What's the over/under on tribute videos she'll be getting?
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Chri - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:39:09 EST ID:5sEgNvdZ No.6158060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157790
why is her hand not tanned
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Minori Makiba - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:41:31 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6158062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157936
I figured that was the entire point of the exercise.
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Chainsaw Charlie - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:03:56 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6158089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6157936
Only a few wrestling fans would be dumb enough to do that. Under 15, my guess.
Also, I hope this leads to Scarlett forming a stable, with some wacky name like Sports Entertainment Xtreme.
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Dude Love - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:57:22 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6158151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6158089
>Also, I hope this leads to Scarlett forming a stable, with some wacky name like Sports Entertainment Xtreme.

I think Scarlett is going to be Trevor's manager. He's on a losing streak and my guess is she's gonna make him win just like Fallah/KM.
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Kharma - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:44:05 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6158215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158151
That would be amazing. Trevor Lee needs a push in Impact. It's time. He's been sorta just floating around and Cult Of Lee was retarded and from 2017 ghosttown Impact.
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Rizokahn - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:54:34 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6158273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ROH announced 4 new dates: A December TV taping in Philly and 3 live shows in Texas.

>Saturday, Dec. 15: 2300 Arena in Philadelphia, PA
>Thursday, Jan. 24: Gilley’s Dallas in Dallas, TX
>Friday, Jan. 25: NRG Arena in Houston, TX
>Saturday, Jan. 26: Austin Highway Event Center in San Antonio, TX

This will be the third time they've done TV tapings in Philly this year. They just did one last weekend (and it didn't sell out), so I'm not sure why they're going back to the same place so quickly. Texas shows might be fun if they bring in some CMLL guys.

SOTF Update: Dalton Castle is back, bitches!
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Mark Jindrak - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:54:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6158274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>According to ProWrestling.net on today’s Wade Keller podcast, IMPACT Wrestling receives $1.0 million per year from PopTV and the agreement is not a barter deal. That breaks down to $19,230.77 per episode.

Mike McMahon from PWTorch has been breaking down this report on twitter (https://twitter.com/MikeMcMahonPW)
>During the Dixie-Corgan lawsuit their former CFO, under oath, said it is a barter deal, so something doesn't jive.
>It could have been originally ... but they re-upped under Anthem in 2017 and 2018. They’ve been on a series of 1-year deals. It could have started as barter and transitioned to a small guaranteed fee.

>Why did pop move impact to 10pm?
>They didn't say ... but my guess is lower viewership. Bouncing them out of primetime can't be perceived as a positive.

>While the money is good, it’s still not enough to cover production (about $250k per taping). Not that this helps, but if Pop is paying a rights fee, that could be a reason Pop looks to cancel them.

>Here’s a comparison ... At $1.0 million per year Impact is paid about $20,000 per episode on average. WWE’s new TV deal will pay them an expected $2.9 million per episode of Raw & SD on average ($311m/104 episodes per.) If you extrapolate the difference in viewership, Impact is worth about $150,000 per episode based on WWE’s value and 200k Impact viewers. That’s $7.8m per year. I’m just surprised no network looks at the WWE deal and doesn’t try to be a copycat with a company like Impact. $7.8 million isn’t a lot in network dollars. Especially to a larger network where Impact’s audience could grow by affiliation. The TV industry is so copycat, it’s just surprising the second-place finisher to Fox/USA for WWE doesn’t view a potential bargain-bin wresting product. Bellator got on Spike (without any notable TV history) because of the UFC. Multiple sports channels have tried to copy ESPN. There are multiple 24hr news networks because of CNN. TV is copycat. Impact wouldn’t get same value, but it’s wrestling & wrestling is apparently hot on TV. WWE was just paid a billion dollars for their TV. That’s not hot??? Why wouldn’t whoever lost out to Fox use Impact (or another property) as a cost-effective way to still get wrestling on their network? Ratings are declining across the board for a lot of reasons. I’m not talking about just Impact, but any wrestling property. If networks were concerned with WWE's decline, they wouldn't have bid. Their audience has tradition, but no one is paying for that. They're paying for what you can offer right now. Networks execs want to make money ... give them a product they can make money with, and you'll be on TV. Any company using this is just making excuses. WCW got booted off Turner in part because they didn't want wrestling, but they were also not making Turner ad sales much $$$

>Any chances of impact going back to paramount? They just signed a guy who had good relationship with paramount
>Maybe? I'd be surprised, honestly. But never say never. Pressure is on Kings Highway Media now in a search for U.S. distribution.
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Kharma - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:00:06 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6158276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158274
The future of Impact starts or ends here. They need a better TV deal. Eveyone says it. It's true. It's time.
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Chiva II - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:12:32 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6158298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> The 10/4 edition of Impact did 189,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 183,000 overnight viewers. (From PWInsider)
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Tim Donst - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:45:08 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6158464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158274
they NEEEEEEEEED to get off of POP TV
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:48:17 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6158716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Six Man tag titles on the line in SOTF's non-tournament match
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Rizokahn - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:35:19 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6158728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6158716
A Champions Challenge match has been added as well. Current tag champs So Cal Uncensored vs. World Champ Jay Lethal & TV Champ Jeff Cobb.

This card is shaping up nicely.
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7ven - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:36:12 EST ID:j/cCbC7E No.6158729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So let's say Impact finds a new home and they transition into a more edgy/adult product like Callis apparently wants them to, (I dunno if this is true, just read it a few times online. Would appreciate a source) do you see them getting a big increase in viewers and buzz? Is there even a station that would let them get away with some of the shit they do on PPV?

Impact doing edgy shit, pulling in vocal crowds like those at BFG sounds comfy af to me. I think the talent is there to have both an edginess, but also enjoyable wrestling. I don't want to see guys hitting each other with weapons every week, I don't even need to see that every PPV and I'm sure most would agree. Save that shit for when it's needed.
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Andy Douglas - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:41:58 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6158730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158729
If they could make it edgy without being gory then I think that would be the sweet spot.
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Jay Briscoe - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:52:05 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6158735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158729
AXS and El Rey seem to enjoy "Edgy" but those are niche networks. Stations like Paramount (the former Spike) want to avoid edgy to court more mainstream audiences and better advertisers. Pop TV, WGN fall into the same bucket.
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Matt Bentley - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:43:02 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6158789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158729
edgey is the future. it doesn't need to be pg. kids watch Netflix, and play crazy video games in VR while jerking off to twitch girls and YouTube twerk xompilations. the times have changed. advertisers will get behind edgeybshit now. deadpool, game of thrones, walking dead, breaking bad' etc etc etc. people love that shit
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Matt Bentley - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:24:39 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6158804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://youtu.be/4GH1YJV5OSc

Sami callhian interview that's really good where he talks about how leaving WWE was the best thing he ever did lmao. Talks about Austin Aries n shit too. featuring mark Henry. it's a video interview too
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MECHA Mummy - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:43:16 EST ID:vTtpdQ7H No.6158889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158789
Even if this was correct I don't think you realise how outta touch people who actually make these decisions are
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Becky Bayless - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 09:47:57 EST ID:9T7XThyL No.6159007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Filthy vs Strickland was bretty good, worth your time to watch;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YadEZqs_YWM
Happy to see Filthy gettin dat big push. As he should.
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Bill Alfonos - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:07:34 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6159136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2QddCMH6U
wew, they didn't even bother with graphics, it's just text
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Jonathan Coachman - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 02:24:49 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6159391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158889
Nah you're right. Most large scale companies make "hip" decisions waaaaay after they are hip.

I'm a little nervous lately in the post ALL-IN era as far as wrestling goes. WWE is opening shitty NXTs all over the world and also working with other indies making farms. Bullet Club (Bullet Club Elite??) is getting stale AS FUCK. NJPW is not doing a very good job at expanding into the USA as they seem to do zero advertising....WWE shot itself in the foot during mania season too. Killing Braun and many others pushes. They've lost a lot of fans but these other companies are barely gaining more.

Imagine taking the small fanbase you have and killing it even more. Wrestling will live but I have second thoughts about this next boom period that ALL IN made a lot of us think may come. ROH has literally done NOTHING with any of the attention and momentum it was literally handed on a silver plater.

Madison Square Garden. That sold out when things are hot. I honestly think it would have a hard time selling out if tickets went on today. Good luck wrestling. Godspeed.
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Xavier Woods - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 02:33:32 EST ID:vTtpdQ7H No.6159392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6159391
ROH is doing its best year for attendance ever
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Dr. Cube - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:42:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6159452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6159392
>>6159391

ROH attendance has dipped this quarter. ITs still 6 months until the MSG show and there's a lot of booking to go between now and then including Matt Taven winning the world title at Final Battle
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:03:20 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6159473 Report Quick Reply
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The main events for the Global Wars shows in Lewiston, Lowell and Toronto have been announced. An eight man tag in Lewiston, a four corner survival tag team match in Lowell and Lethal vs. King for the ROH World title in Toronto. Also there's a non-title four corner survival match in Buffalo.
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Lacey - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 12:43:34 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6159589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XfYnKYARvs

Today, in things you probably forgot already: Alberto El Patron in ROH
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WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:00:02 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6159592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6159473

>An ROH show is main evented by the ROH World Title match between two ROH talents, and not Bullet Club/NJPW guys

When is the last time this happened?
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Bullfight Sora - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:53:08 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.6159605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6159473
thank you kushida for drawing the house
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:03:53 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6159611 Report Quick Reply
>>6159592
It just happened at Glory By Honor. However, if we're excluding On Tour events and just talking about PPVs, then the 16th Anniversary Show.
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Manami Toyota - Mon, 22 Oct 2018 19:38:51 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6159787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6158464
Impact's deal with Pop supposedly ends on December 31. In a best-case scenario they have a new deal sewn up in the new late night timeslot. In a worst-case scenario they're off the air in the US.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:30:22 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6160586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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New matches signed for Global Wars including Cody defending the US title against Beretta and in the main event for Buffalo, Chris Sabin will be in a Proving Ground match against ROH World Champion Jay Lethal

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 26-10-2018 15:32:43
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:31:02 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6160588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6160586
And the first four first round matches for Survival of the Fittest 2018
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Classy Freddie Blassie - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:56:37 EST ID:DAl4M+qm No.6160599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6160588
>beer city bruiser vs daniels
>luchasaurus

lol HHH really did take all the good ROH guys
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Rizokahn - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:55:42 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6160631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6160588
Everett vs Maya Jr vs Gordon has been added.

Via process of elimination, Scurll, Stuka Jr and Young will be the last match announced.
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Carl Oullette - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:12:38 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6160642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6160599
All 3 of those guys are based nig i will cut u
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Tiger Mask - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:31:15 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6160652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6160599
Well when your talent scouter is Delirious/Brutal Bob you probably don't expect much.
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Raven - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:36:34 EST ID:ooxghLVe No.6160689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been watching last few episodes of MLW Fusion and must say Tony Schiavone is great. I remember him being really unlikable when I watched WCW as a little Jimmy. Hoping that Striker was only on commentary for the set of New York tapings though.

Also who knew Low Ki would be so interesting on commentary?
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Kenny - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:46:23 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6160696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6160599
you leave Beer City Bruiser out of this
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Pedro Morales - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:58:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6160751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Updates Regarding 'All In' And 'Young Bucks' Trademark Filings, Possible Future 'All In' Plans

>As early as the conclusion of 'ALL IN', Cody [Rhodes] and The Young Bucks not so subtly suggested that 'ALL IN 2' may already be in the works. The current trademark filings of Killing The Business, Inc. with the United States Patent and Trademark Office ("USPTO") indicate that the 'ALL IN' pay-per-view that took place last month in Hoffman Estates, Illinois may never have been the group's endgame.

>According to the initial trademark application filed in May 2018 on behalf of Dana Massie, Matt Jackson's wife and President of Killing The Business, Inc., the 'ALL IN' trademark was meant for more than just the single pay-per-view event. Among other things, the filing provides for multiple professional wrestling events and even "ongoing television programs".

>"Entertainment in the nature of professional wrestling matches, exhibitions, and tournaments and ongoing television programs in the field of professional wrestling; organizing and conducting professional wrestling matches, exhibitions, and tournaments; production and syndication of television programs featuring professional wrestling matches, exhibitions, tournaments and performances."

>Notably, on September 14, 2018, the USPTO delivered to Killing The Business, Inc. a letter requiring further action to finalize the approval of the 'ALL IN' trademark. The letter indicated that "the nature of the exhibitions organized and conducted must be clarified" and the "applicant must amend this wording to specify the common commercial or generic name for the goods and/or services." Killing The Business, Inc. has six months from September 14, 2018 to satisfy the USPTO as to the meaning of "exhibitions". Otherwise, the 'ALL IN' trademark will be considered abandoned and fair game for any trademark applicant to snap up the mark.

>Basically, what that means is that Killing The Business, Inc. is being given six months to clarify to the USPTO what kind of "exhibitions" they are planning using the "All In" trademark. "Exhibitions" could be just a normal pro wrestling show or something as grand as a convention, ala Starrcast. The USPTO just wants to know what Killing The Business, Inc. means by "exhibitions".

>On a related note, Killing The Business, Inc.'s trademark for 'Young Bucks' will be published for opposition on October 23, 2018, today. This means that the 'Young Bucks' trademark will be registered to Killing The Business, Inc., according to the USPTO, provided that no other party steps forward to contest the registration of the trademark within 30 days of today. If no one steps forward to contest it within the next 30 days, then it will be owned by Killing The Business, Inc.

>Only time will tell what the future holds for the Bullet Club Elite members who have vowed to take their next steps together as a group. Check back with Wrestling Inc. for updates and analysis.
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2018/10/major-updates-regarding-all-in-and-young-bucks-trademark-647036/
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Dr. Wagner Jr. - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:08:28 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6160757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6160751
This wasn't a one-off, then, this is serious fucking business
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Britani Knight - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:11:55 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6160761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6160751
They're takin' aim at the king.
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Hamuko Hoshi - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:33:16 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6160768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6160586
>eat a bunch of pins against NJPW juniors
>get to face the ROH Champion
Sounds about right
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Sunny - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:15:11 EST ID:xUeRY8fD No.6161205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That’s how you work an angle
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Johnny Swinger - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:32:17 EST ID:DG/XT9Q5 No.6161215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6160751
>Killing The Business, Inc.
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Spice - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:08:55 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6161241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6161215
At least they admit the truth.
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Britani Knight - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:47:55 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6161254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161241
WWE once had Triple H dress up as Kane and go into an actual funeral home to fake having sex with a corpse lying in a casket for the sake of a segment meant to imply that Kane was a necrophiliac. That actually happened. If you think a procession of men dressed in inflatable dick costumes for the sake of a comedy spot was worse than the entire Katie Vick debacle, your standards are so fucking low that they may as well be non-existent.
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Rob Conway - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:07:01 EST ID:rKwc1PhY No.6161269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161254
What made it even more surreal was according to Triple H Vince was there calling the shots, so he was basically getting yelled at by his father in law to fuck this mannequin harder.
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Britani Knight - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:13:11 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6161271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161269
Wasn't there an actual funeral/wake/whatever going on in the building at the time, too?
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Mia Yim - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:29:53 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6161278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161271
That's what the legends say
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Tyler Black - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:36:57 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6161282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6159787
>In a worst-case scenario they're off the air in the US
not exactly, Anthem owns Pursuit Channel.
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Spice - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:47:33 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6161287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161282
Unfortunately the reach doesn't seem to cover many homes. Only around 42 million households from what I've looked at. Pop is available to 73.8 million households.

Also...
> The latest Nielsen measurement, just final, verifies that 7 million unique viewers watched Pursuit Channel this past March.
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Sunny - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:39:06 EST ID:rgxBz+Rx No.6161396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161254
Not like people are giving praise to the katie vick angle.
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Meiko Satomura - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:33:10 EST ID:qKTNcbR1 No.6161447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ok, you convinced me. I started watching Fusion.
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Veronica - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:55:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6161721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol i don't even think anyone on /wooo/ noticed that this happened last month

>Former TNA Champion James Storm, who debuted at last week's MLW taping in an angle designed to kick off a feud with Tom Lawlor is already done here. Yep, already. A source with the promotion said the two sides decided to "part ways." Storm attacked Lawlor during a bout with Joey Janela and later won a quick squash. My guess is none of that footage will ever appear on MLW TV.
PWInsider

there was a thread on circlejerk last month and people were sharing some unsubstantiated gossip:
>"Got a buddy who works The Crockett Territory (lol, VA/NC/SC indies) and he said that James Storm is THe biggest asshole he’s ever met in wrestling, and this dude helps a lot at those Wrestlecade’s in November. So he’s been around some vets. Says James Storm tried to come in and big league every body, got in people’s faces. Sounds like a Bob Holly type at their worst." ... "he's apparently got a chip on his shoulder that nobody is willing to pay him what Dixie did and has got heat in quite a few places because of that. He also walks away from any televised promotion in hope of going to WWE but its clear he made a mistake in declining WWE's offer to go back to Dixieland."
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Tanny Mouse - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:02:53 EST ID:xUeRY8fD No.6161724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161721
Dixie worked cowboy into thinking he’s worth a six figure contract.
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Adam Cole - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:19:39 EST ID:DAl4M+qm No.6161731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161721
I'm going vintage /wooo/ here but I swear there was a thread on here one time about James Storm almost getting beat up by a 14 year old girls dad because she was a zonehead and Storm was trying to bang her.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:46:28 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6161737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161447
How do you like it so far?

>>6161721
That honestly doesn't surprise me that he thinks he's bigger than he's really worth just cause Dixie gave him a guaranteed contract of $200K
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WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:49:09 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6161738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161721

I'm taking those Storm stories with a grain of salt. HOWEVER, it does seem like Storm has had a hard time fitting in anywhere that wasn't TNA, and stories have come out that he was all over the place; sometimes he would show up and work like a madman, sometimes he would completely phone it in.
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Tanny Mouse - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:55:30 EST ID:xUeRY8fD No.6161743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161738
He would be great in All Japan tbh but their gaijin quota is already well met
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:09:43 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6161828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6160751
Fucking based. Hope their next show is a good one.

>>6161721
I believe it.
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Veronica - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:20:50 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6161833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
from this week's observer:
> Cody’s ROH contract actually ends at the end of this month, so his last contracted dates are the Jericho Cruise. However, he is expecting to continue through January but he hasn’t signed a new deal and I wouldn’t expect he would right now as he and The Young Bucks and Hangman Page really are trying to stick together and see what the open market has. Once January comes, for obvious reasons, nobody knows right now what is next. As for Cody and New Japan, nothing is concrete but he’d like to continue to work for New Japan for the rest of his career if that is possible as he loves working there. He doesn’t have a New Japan contract at this point
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Jesse Sorensen - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:35:03 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6161837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6161833
>but he’d like to continue to work for New Japan for the rest of his career if that is possible
oh god please no, please NO!
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Davey Richards - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:56:05 EST ID:fKgU0wdg No.6161851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161743
They have more than just Joe now?
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Adam Cole - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 19:09:47 EST ID:DAl4M+qm No.6161853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6161833
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Frightmare - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:28:16 EST ID:5h3TW1fI No.6161966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pact>fushion>roh
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Arachnaman - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 00:07:05 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6161985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1055662822934364160

Callis doing commentary for WK AND Homecoming, two days apart?
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Jackie Moore - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 00:19:32 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6161988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161985
Did they get scared with Chris Jericho knocking them for not using Callis or did they realise that wanting to replace him with Lanny Poffo was a bad idea?
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Krissy Vaine - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 01:38:09 EST ID:VNc0VUCA No.6161999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161988
Probably a combination of both. Everyone else they've had fill the position have been awful with the exception of Rocky who is only OK. I like Chris Charlton but the guy isn't cut out for commentary, he just doesn't have the voice. Nor does that American knobhead they have on whose name I forget. Callis has that booming voice to go with his wit and larger than life persona he portrays on commentary. The man is a gem, I'm glad he's back.
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Meare Naito - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 01:47:51 EST ID:ECPVV2LS No.6162001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6161985
Thank god. Callis has become one my favorite parts of new japan. It’s been weird without him.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:32:59 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6162204 Report Quick Reply
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New matches signed for Global Wars and the final first round match for Survival of the Fittest.
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Arachnaman - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:43:34 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6162245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Thursday's Impact Wrestling episode, featuring World Champion Johnny Impact retaining over Rey Fenix in the main event, drew 98,000 viewers. This is down from last week's 189,000 viewers and the lowest viewership in the history of the show. The previous record low came on December 14 of last year - 161,000 viewers.

>This is the first viewership for Impact in the 10pm timeslot on Pop.

>This week's Impact episode ranked #140 on the Cable Top 150. Last week's show ranked #148.

>Hannity topped the night on cable in viewership with 3.338 million viewers, ranking #10 on the Cable Top 150. The NBA game between the Nuggets and the Lakers topped the night in the 18-49 demographic but drew just 1.948 million viewers. The big draws on broadcast TV last night were Big Bang Theory with 12.994 million viewers and Young Sheldon with 10.961 million viewers, both on CBS in the 8pm hour. The NFL game on Fox at 8:30pm drew 12.052 million viewers, also on network TV.

>Below is our 2018 Impact Viewership Tracker:
January 4th Episode: 309,000 viewers
January 11th Episode: 276,000 viewers
January 18th Episode: 309,000 viewers
January 25th Episode: 310,000 viewers (Genesis episode)
February 1st Episode: 319,000 viewers (Reboot)
February 8th Episode: 294,000 viewers
February 15th Episode: 300,000 viewers
February 22nd Episode: 262,000 viewers
March 1st Episode: 365,000 viewers
March 8th Episode: 325,000 (Crossroads episode)
March 15th Episode: 350,000 viewers
March 22nd Episode: 362,000 viewers
March 29th Episode: 399,000 viewers
April 5th Episode: 294,000 viewers
April 12th Episode: 381,000 viewers
April 19th Episode: 373,000 viewers
April 26th Episode: 308,000 viewers (post-Redemption episode)
May 3rd Episode: 299,000 viewers
May 10th Episode: 295,000 viewers
May 17th Episode: 326,000 viewers
May 24th Episode: 263,000 viewers
May 31st Episode: 283,000 viewers (Under Pressure episode)
June 7th Episode: 296,000 viewers
June 14th Episode: 276,000 viewers
June 21st Episode: 262,000 viewers
June 28th Episode: 254,000 viewers
July 5th Episode: 304,000 viewers
July 12th Episode: 284,000 viewers
July 19th Episode: 275,000 viewers
July 26th Episode: 299,000 viewers (post-Slammiversary episode)
August 2nd Episode: 248,000 viewers
August 9th Episode: 168,000 viewers
August 16th Episode: 210,000 viewers
August 23rd Episode: 212,000 viewers
August 30th Episode: 225,000 viewers (ReDefined episode)
September 6th Episode: 236,000 viewers
September 13th Episode: 258,000 viewers
September 20th Episode: 229,000 viewers
September 27th Episode: 222,000 viewers
October 4th Episode: 190,000 viewers
October 11th Episode: 183,000 viewers
October 18th Episode: 189,000 viewers (post-Bound For Glory episode)
October 25th Episode: 98,000 viewers
November 1st Episode:

>2017 Total: 16.147 million viewers
>2017 Average: 311,000 viewers per episode
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2018/10/this-week-impact-wrestling-episode-draws-under-100k-viewers-647156/
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Nidia - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:47:50 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6162248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6162245
jesus that's sad. I think POP just wants Impact out of the channel.
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Generalissimo Takada - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:55:56 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6162253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162245
Man I really hope Viacom/Paramount takes a chance on them again.
If they're willing to keep Bellator going, adding Impact would help increase life to the channel.
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Nigel McGuinness - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:00:08 EST ID:6Umf0vHA No.6162256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162245
wow it's almost like giving them a bad time slot is wasn't a good idea huh
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Arachnaman - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:25:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6162267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162253
> The next tapings are 11/11, 11/12 and 11/13, which will be about six weeks worth of shows taped in Las Vegas at Sam’s Town.
>>Impact will tape TV in Nashville, TN at the Nashville Fairgrounds Arena on Monday, January 7th, the day after their Homecoming PPV.
>Impact also announced tapings on 3/22 and 3/23 in Windsor at St. Clair College, where they’ve taped in the past and his the home base for Scott D’Amore and the Border City Wrestling group he’s promoted.
https://impactwrestling.com/event/homecoming-january-6th-2019/
https://impactwrestling.com/event/impact-tapings-friday-march-22nd/
https://impactwrestling.com/event/impact-tapings-saturday-march-23rd/

They have tapings booked into spring 2019, so they're acting like business as usual.

I can't help but wonder if Anthem is going to try to expand Fight Network into the US. I think it already exists here but it doesn't reach many homes.
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Jackie Moore - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:05:44 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6162286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162267
They need to have somewhere else booked between Nashville and Windsor.
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Michael Kovac - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 19:10:34 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6162303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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RECORD LOW RATINGS
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Jackie Moore - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 19:32:51 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6162327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6162303
TUMBLING DOWN
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Tomko - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:14:07 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6162353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6162303
It seems like such a short time since people were saying that the new team had done it and Impact was turning around. I guess even the best minds in wrestling eventually get burned out.
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Kharma - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:15:34 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6162355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162353
Thing is, the product is still good & IMPACT last night was a solid show with a real good main event.
But being on POP is a fucking killer & being moved to 10PM is just gonna hurt them even more.
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Crowbar - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:51:59 EST ID:tIv2ZfY8 No.6162370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162353
Was it known back then that "sold out" means 900 tickets?
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Latin Lover - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:02:18 EST ID:5sEgNvdZ No.6162376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6162327
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Tomko - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 21:04:09 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6162377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162355
>being on POP is a fucking killer
This does not explain the decline in their ratings on that channel.

>>6162370
Yeah, the venue had been announced.
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Ken Doane - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:38:03 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6162392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162376
HE JUST KEEPS KICKIN' MAH NUTS, KICKIN' MAH NUTS, KICKIN' MAH NU~TS
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Beulah McGillicutty - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:38:20 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6162393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162353
The PPVs can be good (although Bound for Glory wasn't as good as the last two) but the TV show is just unappealing to a lot of people. Go on about a different product, the viewers just don't care any more. They're gone, they're not coming back. It's a shame but this was obviously going to happen. And yes, getting off POP TV might help them, but with these low ratings things are not going to happen so quick.
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Murphy - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 23:01:26 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6162395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162353
making a good product and getting people to watch it are two different things and they're really isn't much to hook new fans on the average Impact show
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Akeem - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 23:39:30 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6162397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162395
>they're really isn't much to hook new fans on the average Impact show
word needs to get around about Kiera Hogan's ass
gonna take that company back to the top brotherdudejack
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Tomko - Sat, 27 Oct 2018 01:52:18 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6162408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162393
>>6162395
The question isn't so much, "why aren't their numbers improving?" It's more like, "how did this really great awesome regime that totally turned the company around manage to drive off two-thirds of their remaining viewers so quickly and can someone get them to take charge of WWE next year?"
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Godiva - Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:55:50 EST ID:/YsP7rdR No.6162529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162395
Yeah, I mean, Impact doesn't have anything I would need to see. If I want to watch "pure" wrestling, I watch NJPW or ROH if I really feel like it, if I wanted to watch "sports entertainment" or American style focused heavily on scripted stories, I would just watch WWE, if I wanted to watch lucha I would just watch CMLL, if I wanted to see indies I would watch... well, everyone else, and if I wanted to see Buffy I would watch Buffy. I really have no reason to watch Impact except for the odd match here and there, because they don't do anything well enough for me to care when there's so much stuff to watch already.
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Dr. Death Steve Williams - Sat, 27 Oct 2018 12:47:16 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6162554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162529
>if I wanted to watch "sports entertainment" or American style focused heavily on scripted stories, I would just watch WWE
>I really have no reason to watch Impact because they don't do anything well enough

they are objectively better at "sports entertainment"/ American style than WWE.
With a fraction of the budget, they do feuds, promos and vignettes with more style, heat and grit.

Impact, MLW and even LU (still) are doing WWE better than WWE. All 3 products have better written feuds and angles and more style in their presentation. Not that any of them are "bad" but I'd argue Impact is doing better than MLW right now because of production quality and overall better roster. And LU is hurt by the breaks, the departed talent and a tendency to do needless twists with match stipulations and finishes.

>If I want to watch "pure" wrestling, I watch ROH
yeah that Hurricane vs Marty Scurll feud is the apex of "pure wrestling"
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Beastie - Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:06:29 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.6162686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>daniels vs cobb
>sabin and kushida vs bucks
>bucks vs naito and bushi
good stuff
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Bertha Faye - Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:21:41 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6162749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162554
>they are objectively better at "sports entertainment"/ American style than WWE.
Maybe? I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the wrestling audience watches sports entertainment to see stars (casual fans) or to mock it (hardcore fans). Having a "better product" doesn't help with the casuals and might actively hurt them with hardcores.
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VinceRusso !xSTib00awk - Sun, 28 Oct 2018 09:40:13 EST ID:2TXSmINF No.6162888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162626
Yeah I'm glad we get to see him in an actual match since last time it was just a comedy six-man tag with Evil and Sanada; though The Bucks vs Bushi and HiromuRIP ;_; from that show was p.good.
If you see a short-haired blonde chick in an Evil shirt feel free to say sup /woo/.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:31:02 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6164022 Report Quick Reply
Jay Lethal now has the 2nd most combined days as ROH World Champion and is now less than 100 days away from passing Samoa Joe - https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/jay-lethal-now-second-longest-reigning-roh-world-champion
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Karl Anderson - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:04:16 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6164097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It doesn't help that Impact has to generally be twice as good to get anyone to even say it was decent. People judge Impact on a way harder scale then other promotions. MLW is proof of this. I like MLW but people rave about it and then Impact puts on a better weekly show and it gets shit canned because one watch is bad or the desi hit squad is boring. Meanwhile WWE puts out consistantly insulting product and people come back every week. Brand loyality is the name of the game and Impacts "brand" is in need of some help.

It's still the best current weekly wrestling show and the only one I get excited about to see every week. If it dies in 2019 and least it's dies fighting and putting out a good product with solid storylines, feuds, angles, matches, wrestlers and work ethic. Long term pay offs and continuity that sticks week to week is something that seems so simple but is flat out lost in modern wrestling. WWE has no idea how to build a feud. NJPW does it well but it takes a very long time and is not a weekly show. ROH is really boring and shitty unless it's an NJPW show. Marks gonna shit on it anyways though.

Like I said...they need to do twice as good as any other show for people to just NOT shit on it. They're in a difficult place. Getting moved to 10pm seemed insane as well. I stand behind their product though. I even like the weird spooky storylines with Su Yung but I guess I'm not supposed to because wrestling needs to be serious business at all times(thinks of ALL-IN dicks). I like the variety of Impact.

That one guy in this thread was saying he has no reason to watch Impact because it does a bit of everything. That's one of the biggest reasons I DO watch impact. I like seeing the variety show style. I enjoy all kinds of wrestling and they seem to highlight aspects from all over the world.
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Timothy Well - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:15:40 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.6164103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162888
>chick that likes EVIL
new waifu
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Mikey - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:26:45 EST ID:fA3uRMLg No.6164112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6164103
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Timothy Well - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:49:42 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.6164119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6164112
>ywn set ringside with your qt lij gf to see EVIL defeat Jericho and win the ic belt
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Jerry Lynn - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:58:01 EST ID:DAl4M+qm No.6164128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6162888
you the same girl that got the phone call from ryder/hawkins/slater?
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Berlyn - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 21:54:30 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6164213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164119
cute!
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Melina - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:31:35 EST ID:H+HnPzss No.6164237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164119
>Rats for the Human Rat
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Danny Havoc - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 01:13:50 EST ID:IZjMMEiX No.6164313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6164119
Dont forget the cute Evil cosplayer
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:38:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Court Bauer speaks out and denies heat between MLW and Impact Wrestling: https://twitter.com/courtbauer/status/1057039944923967488

>Sad to see people attempting to spread bogus rumors about @MLW/@ImpactWrestling when there are open lines of communication (hell, @sonjaydutterson owes me dinner & @Konnan5150 works for both groups). It's beyond ridiculous and I hesitated to even acknowledge it but I dislike lies.

>We all work together. Be it @DefyNW/@MLW coordinating flights and dates, AAA/MLW exploring talent swaps, etc. Sometimes there are conflicts and you work through them. There is no us vs them. This is a new frontier. For it to work, we need to all cooperate which is happening.

>It's crazy to see fake ass accounts spam lies for their own gratification. It's hurtful to the companies. It's hurtful to the people working hard inside the companies, it's hurtful to the talent and it could risk the fans getting the best wrestling they desire.

>Don't buy into it. Don't let them disrupt this cool thing happening. The independent eco-system is still fragile but the future is very bright.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:52:56 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6164416 Report Quick Reply
>>6164406
Who said that they had heat to begin with? Impact has made it very clear that they are open to working with all promotions, even ones with TV deals like MLW, LU and ROH.
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Big Bad Mama - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:12:51 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6164422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164416
I remember hearing something about it a while back. It was very lose accusations though.
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VinceRusso !xSTib00awk - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:31:30 EST ID:2TXSmINF No.6164428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164128
No, and IDK what you're even talking about, but it's funny that you ask that because my aunt and uncle went to Hawkins' wedding.

>>6164103
I made a joke recently that if someone wants to date me they've gotta go through a Scott Pilgrim-style situation, except instead of evil exes they have to fight my wrestling husbandos.
I'll be single forever because the final boss is Minoru Suzuki.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:50:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164416
I can't even find them now but there were dirtsheets about: MLW thinking Impact's attempt to book Low Ki for BFG was a move to hurt MLW, that MLW blamed lower ticket sales for their Fright Night taping in NYC on BFG being in the building a week later, and that Impact tried to work with MLW's production crew for BFG but were acting "difficult"

I think most of it came from the SEScoops guy who put out the story about Impact trying to bring back Alberto a few weeks ago and then got busted for being a SquaredCircle mod who was posting his own dirtsheets on the forum.
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Big Bad Mama - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:52:36 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6164453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164452
>SEScoops

That dudes the worst.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:07:05 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>FITE TV is set to begin airing Major League Wrestling’s TV series MLW Fusion. PWInsider reports that FITE.tv and MLW have come to terms on a deal, which will see Fusion air on a seven day delay after the episodes’ debuts on BeIN Sports.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:14:05 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6164463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164460
Hopefully this won’t affect MLW uploading Fusion the day after it airs

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 30-10-2018 14:13:43
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:14:05 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6164502 Report Quick Reply
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New matches for Global Wars
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Lizmark Jr. - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:16:48 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6164504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164502
looks random af
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Charly Malice - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:20:17 EST ID:Wf9hRuBX No.6164507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164463
i'd think this would stop them uploading to youtube
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:22:41 EST ID:FCBSE0pm No.6164508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164502
>dat double booking
Did someone get injured or drop out?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:31:46 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6164511 Report Quick Reply
>>6164507
Probably but a 7 day delay on a lesser viewed platform rather than a 1 day delay on the largest video website in the world seems like a step down.

>>6164508
What double booking?
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:44:12 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164463
>Major League Wrestling continues to grow and news just broke that MLW Fusion will have another home on Fite TV. MLW can already be found on beIN Sports and YouTube each week, and the addition of Fite TV gives the promotion an added layer of visibility amongst wrestling fans.

>Slow and steady may win the race for Major League Wrestling. While it can seem as though independent promotions come and go like the wind either due to trying to expand too quickly or working beyond their means by pulling in major star after major star, MLW has remained steady on its course as it expands across the United States.

>With its roots firmly planted in Orlando since 2003, MLW has shown that it can pull in crowds throughout the rest of the state as well as in New York with their Chicago debut coming in just over a week with Fightland.

>What does the arrival of MLW on Fite TV mean for the promotion? Until now, MLW’s monthly super cards have only been available for live viewing to the in-person audience with the matches broken out over the next several weeks on MLW Fusion. Could the addition of Fite TV to MLW’s broadcast platform lead to live streams of future events, either their monthly tapings or a completely new set of regular events?

>The tweet from Fite TV promoting the addition of MLW Fusion notes that the show will broadcast every Tuesday beginning October 30 which puts it a few days behind the beIN Sports and YouTube schedules, but for fans who regularly use the FITE app to watch Ring of Honor’s weekly show as well as pay-per-view events from ROH, NWA, and SHINE amongst others, this is a fantastic way to get brand new eyes on the product.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:53:59 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6164528 Report Quick Reply
>>6164518
Well it’s good Fite is just an additional platform to watch Fusion. They’ve done good taking the Impact approach of putting their product on as many different platforms possible.

>Could the addition of Fite TV to MLW’s broadcast platform lead to live streams of future events, either their monthly tapings or a completely new set of regular events?

Doing live streams of their TV tapings would cheapen Fusion although AAA does do it with Worldwide on Twitch. I do think they should start doing PPV events to complement their weekly show.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:13:01 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164528
beIN sports is paying MLW for Fusion, so there's no was they'd be cool with a live stream of a TV taping. A separate iPPV might be more likely.

MLW, ROH and CFW Hollywood all have their weekly shows on FITE for free now; you'd think more people would take advantage of that.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:24:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Digging this up from February 2017: Former ROH employee Court Bauer on this weeks MLW Radio: "ROH has stopped booking Kevin Sullivan, who the boys love, because Delirious thinks he's a threat to his position... Joe Koff and Delirious have a father/son relationship, which is why the book won't change until Koff is gone."

On this weeks MLW Radio, Court Bauer, a former ROH employee who has really not said a whole lot about his time there because he has openly said he agreed not to bad mouth ROH after he left sort of finally lost his temper and vented a bit and made a lot of points. I have taken the time to record the conversation between him and MSL, parts of it are paraphrased, mostly MSL's, but I think it's extremely interesting and feel it deserves more coverage:

>MSL: "Something that I saw this week that I paid extra attention to because it involved broadcasters and I am a broadcaster myself, is the story that Kevin Kelly, who was working full-time for Ring of Honor has left and will instead be doing part-time shows and New Japan. I've seen a lot of memes online comparing ROH to HBO show The Wire, because their both based in Baltimore and there is always drama going on behind-the-scenes..."

>Court: "They both have big body counts to match!"

>MSL: "...haha. Have you any insight on this Court?"

>Court: "Ah yeah, Kevin Kelly who was also doing broadcasting duties for New Japan through their New Japan World service, ah... basically gave notice he was leaving, ehm, I understand he was basically given an ultimatum and eh, it's a peculiar situation, I mean there's just a lot of instability with Sinclair Broadcasting's [ROH's parent company] management of their Ring of Honor division, a lot of guys are moving on, a lot of guys are leaving, and... eh, they just reach a point where they leave - and I'm not speaking for Kevin Kelly in particular, there's just... a lot of people that have left and have gone to EVOLVE and have gone to... end up being signed by WWE and have gone to... just move on to other things and... that's not a great narrative to have for your company when the only big stories coming out from your company are these kinds of things.

>This is a company that really was supposed to be all about wrestling and not about drama, in the way it was originally envisioned when it was launched in 2002 and you don't really hear people talking about the great wrestling anymore, you hear people talking about... what's the deal with them sticking with one booker and not just moving on to other guys, or what's the deal with this guy leaving or that guy leaving. Joe Koff overseas the division [ROH] as the COO from within Sinclair along with the booker, Delirious, and he and Delirious have a father/son relationship, that is... essentially unbreakable. Its been tested, its been challenged and it has prevailed, some have tried to divide, some have tried to politically divide and all have failed... and all will fail if they try to do that or their perceived as a threat. Look, the reality is-"

>MSL: "Well, I heard rumors online - I don't know if this is true, but I read these rumors online - that Kevin Kelly wanted Delirious' job. I don't know if that played any role in his departure or not?"

>Court: "Well you know, there's just so much paranoia from certain people within Ring of Honor about that, whether it's real or not. If you're really good at your job, you shouldn't sweat that, but it seems that like... look - I don't want to put you in an awkward situation M so, we can edit this out after if you like but... I understand, that they have not booked Kevin Sullivan since December because internally he was perceived as a threat, and that there aren't any plans to book him, ah, which is a shame because if you talk to fans who were watching the product they liked Kevin Sullivan on their show on a weekly basis and I understand the boys liked him as he was giving them great feedback on their matched and how they could get better, as a veteran with a gazillion decades of knowledge would do and that's a benefit. And you know, there were insecurities - "

[part 2 in next post]
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:25:56 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164542
[part 2]
>Court: "I mean, a guy at 69/70-years-old isn't going to take the fucking book and fucking book, y'know, wherever in Pennsylvania shows, so it's like what are you threatened by?"

>MSL: "...Ehm, I hadn't heard that - it wouldn't shock me just because I know how wrestling is, and sometimes that sucks for guys like Kevin, who has all this knowledge -"

>Court: "It's fucking absurd! It's fucking absurd! And the fact that Joe Koff, the COO of this thing, just allows this operation to become so toxic and dysfunctional is just asinine to me! There is no oversight above that, there is nobody from Sinclair looking out - whether it's a wrestling mind or not - but it's not helping the product. The preservation or the self-preservation that's going on there is detrimental to the brand, its detrimental to the talent, its detrimental to the fans, its detrimental to the viewers and to the company's future! It's ridiculous.

>And Joe [Koff] is in his late 60's, eventually he will pass the baton on to Greg Gilliland. Greg Gilliland [general manager of Ring of Honor for Sinclair] runs the day-to-day operations, and, eh, maybe then it will change, but right now... not so much. And it's so sad to see something compromised due to the insecurities to the extent it has. It really is sad."

>MSL: "Well it wouldn't shock me because I know how wrestling works. And you know, from Kevin's side, when he started doing appearances for them he was just happy to be working for them, he was just happy to be involved, I mean - hahaha there wasn't any mind-set at this stage of his life of him wanting to be a booker anymore or anything like that so. So that's unfortunate if that's the case."

>Court: "Look, it's the same thing, Gary Hart, dear friend of Kevin Sullivan's, when he started doing these autograph sessions when he was in his late 60's it was just to get out of the house, he was just happy to get out of the house and make a payday, for Kevin Sullivan it was just to get out of the house and make a payday. Neither of these guys at this point in their lives have the interest to book or write TV every week or edit it in post-production in Baltimore - that's just not their lifestyle anymore, and of course if you see someone with that wealth of talent and experience and of course he [Kevin Sullivan] goes back 30/40 years with Joe Koff because Kevin first met him through Florida, then they [Delirious] are like, "uh-oh", they view that as a potential threat to the throne, and it's just pathetic. I don't know what else to say."

>MSL: "Well man, I hope it's not true because I know the fans love seeing Kevin and he loves seeing them too so, I just hope it's not true."
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Barbarian - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:41:07 EST ID:02QJRgP2 No.6164552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164542
>>6164543

Fuck ROH
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Wahoo McDaniel - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:51:37 EST ID:4HkBL4Ou No.6164608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Delirious is a bad booker and needs to go.
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Jazz - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:47:02 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6164677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164552
tl;dr of this rant: If you're going to doubt Dave Meltzer, you'll definitely have to doubt Court Bauer's scoops on ROH. Reading "Former ROH employee Court Bauer" set off some major red flags to me.

It's funny.
People in the anti-Meltzer camp always love to go beyond just doubting what he says, there's gotta be some kind of collusion behind things he says, or an agenda. And hey, in theory, you shouldn't just believe one source, you gotta try to verify the info yourself in some way. But when this stuff came from Court, no one doubted him, even though almost no other wrestling sites picked up on it. Are people this desperate to find dirt on ROH?

And yet, recently, SEScoops came under fire, when its owner (/u/TheSharpshooter on reddi t) said this:
>SEScoops reported that Impact officials are discussing bringing in Alberto for the Las Vegas TV tapings. Mike Johnson (who is paid by Impact Wrestling) denied the SEScoops report. We stand behind it and it's not made up "fake news."
I bring that up because SEScoops is very closely tied to MLW (a company founded by Court Bauer). They get more news about them than anyone. Mysteriously, this came up after Court Bauer blamed MLW's weak ticket sales on Bound for Glory this year. Almost as if someone fed SEScoops a bad scoop to fuck over Impact over something petty. After all, Court is not above this "us vs. them" bullshit.

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Anyways, as someone that watched ROH at the time, the gimmick with Sullivan had pretty much run its course. While Sullivan had the character work down to an art, it was about building up Punishment Martinez at the end. On TV, Sullivan was written out, cackling along with Steve Corino (who finally joined their little group), BJ Whitmer and Punishment Martinez in a segment. Corino left for WWE, so he couldn't stick around for much longer. Sullivan was gone, his role seemed to be to help Whitmer because the crowd couldn't give a shit about his promos. There's actually a segment where it was Sullivan and Whitmer talking in the ring. Whitmer got hard boring chants, but when Sullivan got on the mic, the boring chants quickly stopped and they got into his promo. Magic.

I don't see what he was going to do with Punishment, though. There were barely, if any, promos from the group anymore after Corino left, and Sullivan's exit made sure of that. Maybe the plan was to transition into Corino being the new leader, with Punishment beating him AND Whitmer. ROH doesn't have a lot of time for talking segments, at least not any more if Bullet Club has some for a show. So, instead, Whitmer and Punishment teamed up for a bit, with them notably going over War Machine. After that match, Punishment chokeslammed Whitmer, ending their team completely. Let me repeat this, the plan was to ultimately put Punishment Martinez over. What was Sullivan going to do? Cackle at ringside while Punishment wrestled? ROH doesn't have a lot of managers.
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Jazz - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:56:48 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6164683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164677
I'd like to add before anyone mentions Truth Martini, or Prince Nana, they were both being phased out at the time, if not totally gone already. Veda Scott was long gone by 2017. There's also Taeler Hendrix who thanked ROH after getting them to cancel bookings of hers (she went from being a valet, to being a wrestler), and then...

>it was mandy leon's fault!
>it was truth martini, he harrassed me!
>it was jay lethal! Pls talk about this, dirtsheets

This, combined with her association with a very shady guy named Cory Machado (who is known for being a scammer who pretended to be a famous soccer player on twitter, buying many bots for his efforts), makes it impossible to take her word seriously.
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Roxxi Laveaux - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:01:45 EST ID:tIjhe3H4 No.6164689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The idea of not wanting Kevin Sullivan at your professional wrestling shows is so fucking stupid
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Mason Ryan - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:17:37 EST ID:uTne++OQ No.6164704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164689
To a boomer like you, maybe. To the crowd in the Bullet Club shorts (aka, the ROH crowd), it doesn’t make a difference.
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Mason Ryan - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:18:19 EST ID:uTne++OQ No.6164705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164704
*shirts
Nb.
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Roxxi Laveaux - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:18:55 EST ID:tIjhe3H4 No.6164706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164704
I’m 26 tho
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Al Snow - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:44:33 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6164722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164704
well it's a good thing the Bullet Club guys are going to stay in ROH forever since that's literally all they have
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Nevaeh - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:15:10 EST ID:MtcJxCAg No.6164789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164706
>26
>not a boomer

get outta here grandpa. you ain't cool unless you're pre-K.
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Duke Droese - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:50:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6164677
>I bring that up because SEScoops is very closely tied to MLW (a company founded by Court Bauer). They get more news about them than anyone. Mysteriously, this came up after Court Bauer blamed MLW's weak ticket sales on Bound for Glory this year. Almost as if someone fed SEScoops a bad scoop to fuck over Impact over something petty.
I like Court and think for the most part that he has the right ideas... but he's a wrestling promoter. And every promoter has an agenda.

His times with ROH and AAA were short lived and I'm sure the promotions were at fault too, but he probably works best when he's the boss and not having to report to a boss.

And fans will almost always side with the worker over the promotion. So it's easy for Court to say ROH or AAA fucked up, and it's probably still true -- and fans will side with him, even if he omits any fault he might have had in the relationship. It's a great Paul Heyman tactic. (Bauer was involved in that disastrous AAA Triplemania PPV from a few years ago and it hasn't damaged his rep at all.)

Impact has a disastrous rep - so fans are always going to believe any story that paints the promotion in a bad light ... even if Don Callis and Scott D'Amore are not Dixie. It will take years before fans stop assuming Dixie fuckery is still going on. So it's easy for a rival promotion to make themselves look like the "underdog" in a dispute with Impact right now.

I don't know what connection SEScoops has to MLW but TheSharpshooter definitely has some kind of agenda, or someone with an agenda was feeding him bogus newz. Once the Alberto rumor proved to be false, he got removed as a mod.

I like this cooperation happening between promotions ... but it won't last. There's literally hundreds of years across North America, Japan and Mexico of carnie promoters fucking each other over. It's a carnie business. I doubt that Don Callis and Court Bauer will be the first guys in history to break the trend.

Just look at the upcoming Wrestlemania weekend: MLW is running TV tapings against Wrestlecon AND Spring Break, and he's got guys like Pentagon, Fenix and Strickland locked into deals. Who's to say he won't pull them from their other appearances?

And even if Bauer has an agenda to make himself/his work look better, it doesn't change the fact that Delirious HAS GOT TO GO.
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Sean O'Haire - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:07:32 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6164945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164941
>(Bauer was involved in that disastrous AAA Triplemania PPV from a few years ago and it hasn't damaged his rep at all.)

And it's funny that someone like Jeff Jarret gets jumped on by the smarks (who are basically all e drones in disguise).
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Tank Abbott - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:10:47 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6164948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164941
Sure, I'll say this for Delirious. Death Before Dishonor might have gotten away with satisfying the crowd with those last two matches, but the lack of overness of that undercard was a bad sign. And there are some new dudes that I just don't see above midcard level (Josh Woods, Coast 2 Coast, Eli Isom, etc.)
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Duke Droese - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:41:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6164953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164948
ROH's talent scouting is the worst. Their developmental feds are the Monster Factory (where Punishment and Riddle came from), Team 3D Academy (cuz Bully Ray is a master politician even though he's never trained anyone good), Glacier's school (a favor to Cody) and Maryland Championship Wrestling. They need to decide if they want to be a TV promotion with casual-friendly wrestlers that have the look ... or they want workrate smark favorites.


>>6164945
Global Force Gold was cringe and he definitely burnt a bridge with the Hardys, but Jarrett gets a far too bad rap. Honestly, the work he did for Corgan for NWA 70 feels like the perfect spot for him: book good venues with loud, supportive local crowds; embrace nostalgia acts to put over the new champs; handle PPV distribution. In other words: be a promoter like his dad. Just don't give him the book (he's not bad overseeing creative, just not exciting). I still love his AAA work and think he could still be a manager too.
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JV Rich - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:15:47 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6165021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164953
>he definitely burnt a bridge with the Hardys
The Jeffs never got offside with one another and Matt is a businessman. Stop taking Reby seriously, she's just a gimmick.
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Duke Droese - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:38:58 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6165030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165021
no one cares that Jeff & Karen and Jeff & Beth Hardy remained friends. There needs to be a bad guy in every narrative. Smarks just wanted to parrot "Fuck That Owl"
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Jazz - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:40:34 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6165032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6164945
The funny thing is that Jeff wanted to work with AAA to show PPVs in the USA and specifically that TripleMania, but it never happened. Just like after the successful showing of NJPW's Wrestle Kingdom 9, they didn't bother doing further PPVs even though NJPW World was in its infancy and would not have done as well as the PPV would have (the buyrates were supposedly very good after all).
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Jazz - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:45:57 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6165035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165030
Hey, don't shit on Fuck that Owl. That shit was hilarious. Sure, things were eventually sorted out but what happened there was a huge black mark. You can't just fuck over people on the way out because you're so bitter that the two people who were realistically the only reason why people wanted to watch the show wanted to go back to the 'E. Even if the whole Woken run wasn't as good as the Broken stuff, at least they're letting Matt do Broken things on the Network now.
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Jack Evans - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:57:43 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6165040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165030
>Smarks just wanted to parrot "Fuck That Owl"
Man, that was a ridiculous period.
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Tank Abbott - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:15:44 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6165045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165035
This, and now both companies are making peace with each other. Or getting as close to it as possible by wrestling standards.
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Sean O'Haire - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:23:48 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6165047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165035
It was the definition of concern trolling, in that as usual the people propagating it were the e drones who just wanted an excuse to shit on Impact as usual.

If they gave a damn about worker's rights they'd be launching similar campaigns against WWE on a weekly basis
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:28:39 EST ID:6VrC0Wv6 No.6165048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165047
You ready for thanksgiving?
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Carlos Cabrera - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:58:59 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6165226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165035
Fuck that Owl was nothing but people who already hated Impact leaping up to declare that they would never watch again.

>You can't just fuck over people on the way out
It was business as usual for the entertainment industry in general and wrestling in particular. Mero couldn't play Johnny B Badd in WWF, Scott Hall couldn't take Razor Ramon back to WCW, Cody can't call himself Cody Rhodes outside of WWE.

>realistically the only reason why people wanted to watch the show
YouTube views let us separate out interest in the different feuds and the Broken stuff peaked at a little under 3 million views. The Wolves Breakup (from around the same time) peaked at over 50 million views.
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BxB Hulk - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 23:26:39 EST ID:62+B7o96 No.6165229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165226
>The Wolves Breakup (from around the same time) peaked at over 50 million views.
You got a single fact to back that up?
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Primo - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 23:40:09 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6165232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165229
Yeah, he looked it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jzc8AUei8Q
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BxB Hulk - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 23:55:58 EST ID:62+B7o96 No.6165240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165232
Well how about that, now I'm left wondering how this manipulated YouTube's algorithm instead
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Primo - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:07:54 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6165244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165240
Angelina Love is a draw brother, the top 3 rated videos on YT features her
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Primo - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:08:21 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6165245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165244
the top 3 rated videos on IMPACT's YT features her*
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Curry Man - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:14:37 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6165248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165240
Eddie "Frozen Spiderman" Edwards With Crazy Wife Prank Gone Bad Sexy!?!
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Bryce Remsburg - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 00:28:02 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6165250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165240
People will click anything with a suggestive thumbnail, and that has Angelina making out with Davey.
Same reason Beyond Wrestling has videos with over 90m, 50m and 25m views but their highest viewed video with no women in has under 2m.
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Carlos Cabrera - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 01:20:55 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6165260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165250
>People will click anything with a suggestive thumbnail, and that has Angelina making out with Davey.
It doesn't and I'm worried that you actually believe "making out" with a woman means standing close to her and not making eye contact.
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Carlos Cabrera - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 01:29:38 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6165263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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And while we're on the topic of things that got more views than the Broken Universe, there's also this. nb.
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Prince Devitt - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 01:47:59 EST ID:2frcf2Rk No.6165265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165260
His point about women in suggestive thumbnails still stands and it’s kind of pathetic you’re here trying to act like tens of millions of people cared about a break up between the Wolves.
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Dixie Carter - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 03:48:01 EST ID:vTtpdQ7H No.6165279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165263
Kongo Kong's titties are confirmed draws

>>6165248
underrated
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Mercedes Martinez - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 04:02:15 EST ID:31Ampg4a No.6165282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165226
literally anything online based especially in regards to Impact should be taken with a massive grain of salt, they had a twitter bot campaign for that make impact great again shit around the time that wolves video was uploaded and were quite clearly botting their way to 1 billion youtube views and 1 million subs the same year
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Excalibur - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 05:17:30 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6165294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165282
Same thing with ROH. Look at some of the ridiculous viewership for women of honor matches. I think that happened on Taeler Hendrix matches only, which is...suspicious, to say the least
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Wil Maximo - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 05:44:21 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6165296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165282
You're looking way too hard into this. Women fighters draw clicks. This is true for almost any wrestling promotion
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Roxxi Laveaux - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 09:18:56 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6165336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165282
> they had a twitter bot campaign for that make impact great again shit around the time that wolves video was uploaded and were quite clearly botting their way to 1 billion youtube views and 1 million subs the same year

[citation needed]
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Abyss - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:50:13 EST ID:nVBpeOcB No.6165387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165296
Are you saying JImmy Lloyd is a woman?
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Bryce Remsburg - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:03:38 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6165392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165260
My bad, the beginning of the video was them tongueing each other and I'd just figured that was the thumbnail. Either way go check their most viewed videos, its tits, ass or puss everywhere.
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Colonel Ninotchka - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:07:08 EST ID:FSBOyte7 No.6165393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165387
Well, maybe
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Jim Johnston - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 22:36:00 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6165637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165392
> Either way go check their most viewed videos, its tits, ass or puss everywhere.
Almost everywhere, brother.
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Gorgeous George - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 02:41:26 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6165676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165637
Vince Russo is always right
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:14:01 EST ID:oBoI/UZ6 No.6165703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165637
i would love to see the geographical heat map for those videos.
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Starman - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 11:44:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6165776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Bruce Prichard is no longer with MLW, although this has nothing to do with his podcast. Konnan will be moved up to Prichard’s spot as senior producer and lead agent with the promotion as well as bing part of creative. Konnan ran the locker room at the last show and Court Bauer said that it went great. The key people with the promotion going forward are Bauer, MSL, Konnan and Alex Greenfield. The younger talent related better to Konnan and didn’t like Prichard with the word being that there was a generation gap in the perception of what wrestling should be. Tommy Dreamer, Low Ki and Sami Callihan will continue to work as agents.
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Jim Johnston - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:00:49 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6165784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165776
>generation gap
Konnan isn't even a year younger than Prichard, but OK.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:17:35 EST ID:4bsqxVFb No.6165803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165784

Glad I'm not the only one who caught that. I was trying to wrap my head around why they would cite that reason above anything else.

I guess maybe that's their way of saying Prichard's out of touch by laying out matches based on the style of wrestling that was on TV in Houston when he was a kid?
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Octagón - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:18:59 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6165805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165803
could be
Prichard did whiteknight the red rooster gimmick
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Roderick Strong - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:20:10 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6165806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165803
yeah as much as they're the same age Prichard seems to be more pre-MNW style stuff, but Konnan's time in AAA shows him to be God Emperor of WCW style bullshit (in a good way)
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Bobby Fish - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:46:03 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6165831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Many Impact Wrestling fans are understandably about the future of the show on Pop TV after the network moved them to the later 10 pm timeslot. The move is another troubling sign especially after ratings nosedived since Slammiversary. Ratings took another tumble last week in the 10 pm timeslot as the show drew less than 100,000 viewers, the least-watched TV show in the history of the company.

> So you can imagine how fans felt last night as they watched a commercial for AroLucha airing during the Impact broadcast.

> So, you might be asking…what is AroLucha? The company launched last year and the CEO is Arolxe Marketing’s Jason Brown. According to their WeFunder.com crowdfunding campaign, Konnan and Rey Mysterio own shares. The company taped a pilot in Nashville last year and they raised almost $130,000 from their crowdfunding campaign. Former WWE Superstars Ron and Don Harris are listed as founders.

> The commercial said that AroLucha is “coming in 2019” and that got fans wondering if the promotion is replacing Impact. For what it’s worth, Impact has yet to announce a TV deal for next year.

https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1058208013935349760
http://wrestlingnews.co/impact-wrestling/pop-tv-aired-a-commercial-for-arolucha-during-impact-wrestling/
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Octagón - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:48:08 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6165833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165831
>understandably about the future
what

>Arolucha
>For what it’s worth, Impact has yet to announce a TV deal for next year.
fucking hell
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Roderick Strong - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:54:17 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6165838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165831
I can see Pop dropping wrestling, but it seems a stretch for them to drop Impact for AroLucha
maybe buying a commercial during impact is cheap and AroLucha just paid for it?
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Masked Superstar - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:54:53 EST ID:ZkQzR+mp No.6165839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165831
Impact can never get a break jesus christ. They're finally getting their shit together and this happens.
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Starman - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:55:32 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6165840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165831
>There was apparently a commercial for AroLucha during Impact tonight. (Didn't see it. ) Feels concerning for Impact that they got time slot moved and the people who wanted to buy Impact are being advertised on their TV network, with a start date of when Pop's deal with Impact is up. On the other hand, Aro Lucha hasn't run a show since June 17th. Multiple people in that promo alone (Lane, Hardy) are with WWE now.

>The Aro Lucha commercial that aired last night used footage from their December 2017 taping. Much of the talent on that show were people who were loosely working for The Crash or friends of Konnan. Most of those people are no longer with The Crash and are working elsewhere: https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1058378721080565760

>I have no idea what an Aro Lucha show is right now! Or if everyone else is going to be cool sharing talent. Or if it even matters if Impact is cool with it. Or even if Konnan's still attached - this happened before he got back with AAA and got involved with MLW. All so weird.
https://twitter.com/luchablog

Why do I have the feeling that this whole "cooperation" thing is about to blow up and Konnan is going to be at the center of all of it?
How many start-ups have tried to pick the bones of TNA?
  • Jeff Jarrett: Formed Global Force Wrestling instead and now does iPPVs with the indies that Impact tries to work with for the GWN
  • Billy Corgan: Buys the NWA instead; had an iPPV with Global Force
  • The Harris Twins: Formed AroLucha instead. Konnan gets fired from The Crash for doing AroLucha & goes back to AAA with other disgruntled LU talents. AAA and Impact have closer relationship. Konnan gets more power in MLW and starts using AAA talents for that show. AroLucha gets some kind of show Impact's channel.
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Mano Metalico - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:57:02 EST ID:psV9LY6K No.6165844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165839
I wish they could go to Paramount network. They only have four fucking shows they air non-stop, they could use them.
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Roderick Strong - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:57:19 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6165845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165840
>MLW and starts using AAA talents
I thought MLW just had indie guys who work AAA like Park and the Lucha Bros
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:00:51 EST ID:4bsqxVFb No.6165847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165838

>it seems a stretch for them to drop Impact for AroLucha

Not necessarily. Remember that Pop pretty much had no choice but to idly stand by while Dixie, Corgan, Aroluxe, and Anthem fought for control of Impact.

Who knows which of those four parties took the time to forge the closest relationship with the people in charge at Pop.
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Wahoo McDaniel - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:02:51 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6165851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165831
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Starman - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:04:23 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6165852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165838
When Impact moved to POP, they weren't even getting any rights fees for the deal (Supposedly Anthem has negotiated a rights fee since then). TNA & POP had a barter deal, where they shared ad revenue.

IF AroLucha gets a TV show: 1.) there's no guarantee it gets on prime time. 2.) there's no guarantee POP is paying them to air the show.

Impact wasn't even the first wrestling show on POP; there was something called Paragon Pro from Las Vegas: http://wrestlingnews.co/other/paragon-pro-wrestling-announces-tv-deal-with-pop-tv/
They went out of business and weren't getting any money from POP, they either had a barter deal or were PAYING for national TV time.

It's the same situation with that *other* group out of Las Vegas, Ring Warriors. It airs on Saturday mornings on WGN America and apparently, they pay WGN to air: https://prowrestling.net/site/2018/09/05/all-in-zero-hour-viewership-number/#comment-112117

No TV channel is going to *pay* for Impact if these shitty start ups are willing to air for free or are even willing to PAY to air.
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Starman - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:16:19 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6165863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165845
Drago and Puma King have worked the NYC tapings. MLW doesn't have a deal with AAA but does have the same deal with LU that Impact has: they can work the shows under their non-LU gimmicks. They're also bringing in Rush to work their Chicago tapings. These are all literally the same moves Konnan made when he jumped from AAA to The Crash / AroLucha.

Konnan doesn't have any backstage power with Impact. He was the liaison for the short-lived Impact-Crash deal, but that's done. His power is in MLW, so he'll prioritize that over Impact. (And he's tight with Meltzer and has been one of his closest sources for years, so the narrative around all these moves will be interesting.)

>>6165844
Paramount doesn't want wrestling. It wants "prestige" cable dramas like Mad Men and Breaking Bad. ESPN works with WWE. WGN gets stuff for free. If a hometown celebrity Billy Corgan could not secure anything with WGN and ALL IN ZERO HOUR only did okay, WGN would not see the interest in two hours of prime time for Impact.

There's no big cable channel that wants non-WWE wrestling. It's over.

Honestly, I can't see any bigger network paying for Impact or AroLucha or the NWA or Global Force or Lucha Underground. The future is in the TV channel *owning* the wrestling show (like El Rey owns LU, Sinclair owns ROH, Turner owned WCW).

Since Anthem now has a Fight Network in the UK, their best bet might be getting Fight Network cleared for a lot more homes in the USA. Then they can run Impact, Xplosion, and specials as much as they want, at anytime they want and collect 100% of the ad revenue.
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Roderick Strong - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:33:39 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6165868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6165863
>>6165852
>>6165847
cool, thanks for the insight
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Wahoo McDaniel - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 16:17:02 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6166101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Acid Jaz - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 20:48:31 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6166260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166101
yes we know. Not sure if you're trying to make a point or something. Go watch Crown Jewel cause "lol it's funny cause it's bad"
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Mikey Whipwreck - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:04:53 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6166278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166260

Don't be a bitch. If it's fine for people to shit on WWE ratings, then it's fine to shit on Impact's numbers.
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Acid Jaz - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:11:34 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6166285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166278
lolwwes ratings are fine. Impact is on life support and it's also a far better product at this point. WWE has been feeding people their own feces all year and impacts been trying it's ass off to put on a good show. Big difference.
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Virgil - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:34:36 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6166365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166260
It's a chart of the real numbers presented without comment. If reality offends you, you can always leave.
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Lance Cade - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:48:27 EST ID:62+B7o96 No.6166368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166285
>rules for thee, but not for me
yeah youse a bitch
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Kelly Kelly - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 13:07:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6166559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166101
10pm hurt, football hurt.

But why were people actively tuning out as the "its gotten better" conversation got louder? Does Impact's diehard audience really want "TNA style" and not what Callis is giving them?
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Sexxxy Eddy - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 13:09:10 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6166560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df06Jtw_M_0
>kid ref
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DashingCN - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 14:15:59 EST ID:519xs0g2 No.6166603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We are showing Jericho cruise show tonight. Thread up in a few hours
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 15:01:19 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6166649 Report Quick Reply
>>6166603
Yes that’s correct. Though because of that, we won’t be able to stream the Black Label Pro show featuring Bryan Alvarez vs. Marko Stunt unless someone wants to stream it.
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 19:48:16 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6166749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
News from tonight's ROH Tapings: Zack Sabre Jr will debut at Final Battle to fight Jonathan Gresham
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Naomichi Marufuji - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 20:19:13 EST ID:J8ZQ/4/0 No.6166760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166749
Weird. It's his first time wrestling with ROH, isn't it?
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 20:21:25 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6166762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166760

Actually, no! Get ready for a bizarre piece of trivia...

He worked a dark match six-man tag in 2010. One of his partners was KC McKnight, who would get signed by WWE and change his name to Scott Dawson
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Dos Caras - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 20:33:56 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6166767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166749
ROH sucks and all but that sounds tight as hell not gonna lie
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 21:27:07 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6166792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166559
>why were people actively tuning out as the "its gotten better" conversation got louder?
Some theories:
  1. Impact lacked for likable babyfaces in the main event. (Recall that their big fall came after Moose went down to Aries and Eddie adopting a gimmick that some people find heelish.) What this says about Johnny Cruiseship is unclear.
  2. People watched Impact for stars and they don't have any left.
  3. A lot of people watched Impact ironically. Now that it's kinda good it's no fun anymore.
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Dasher Hatfield - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 22:33:19 EST ID:31Ampg4a No.6166827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166762
you're thinking of a dude called just Sabre
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Bushwhacker Luke - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 12:51:04 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6167108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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from PWInsider: ANTHEM RESPONDS TO JARRETT LAWSUIT, ED NORDHOLM DECLARATION EXPLAINS HOW ANTHEM TOOK IMPACT OVER FROM DIXIE CARTER
>Impact Wrestling parent company Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions LLC (and its parent company, Anthem Sports & Entertainment) filed motions on 11/1 with the United States District Court of Tennessee, attempting to have the lawsuit Impact Wrestling founder Jeff Jarrett and his new company Global Wrestling Entertainment have brought against them dismissed.

>Defendants Anthem Sports & Entertainment Corp and Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions, LLC requested the lawsuit be dismissed for several reasons on 11/1 with a series of filings. The first motion argues that Jarrett and GWE are claiming there is a copyright infringement on their Global Force Wrestling Amped! content that Impact aired as PPVs, but "failed to state an adequate claim of copyright infringement " as there were no actual copyrights filed on the material in question before the lawsuit was filing. That would explain why GWE and Jarrett were requesting that the court order Impact to hand over the masters, so Jarrett could go forward with filing copyrights on the 16 hours of GFW Amped! content. The motion also included

>Regarding Jarrett's allegations that the defendants "violated Jeff Jarrett’s exclusive property rights to his own name, photograph, and other likeness", the defendants are claiming this cannot be correct as "Jeff Jarrett has previously authorized the use of his name and likeness as a trademark and Defendants own that trademark." Anthem responded that they own a trademark on the name "Jeff Jarrett" as Jarrett had consented to agree to allow TNA Entertainment, LLC those rights in 2004 with Anthem taking over that trademark when they acquired TNA/Impact Wrestling from Dixie Carter's company Impact Ventures, LLC.

>Anthem backed their claim by submitting to the court a copy of a statement signed by Jeff Jarrett, dated 1/19/06, stating that he was giving that consent to TNA Entertainment, LLC. That statement reads:
"I, Jeff Jarrett, hereby give consent to the registration of the trademark, JEFF JARRETT (Serial No. 78/534,102) for "costumes, namely wrestling costumes and masks for children and teenagers" in International Class 25, "toy action figures and accessories therefor" in International Class 28 and "entertainment services, named wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer; providing wrestling news and information via a global computer network" in International Class 42, and authorize the registration of the name as a trademark for such goods and services with the United States Patent and Trademark Office."

>Anthem also submitted a copy of trademark transfers for several copyrights held by Impact Wrestling when Anthem took over the company, assigning the ownership of those trademarks to Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions LLC, effective 1/1/17 with an execution date of 1/11/18. The Jarrett copyright is included in a collection of the trademarks that were transferred.

>In regard to the Jarrett lawsuit claim that Anthem, etc. had "Violated state and federal trademark infringements in relation to GFE", Anthem's motion noted that Global Force Wrestling LLC's own trademark filing for the GFW initials, dated 3/9/18 and signed by Jeff Jarrett, featured photo usage of the GFW initials, meant to provide a publicly available usage of the letters to support the ownership of the trademark, that was actually the cover art for the Impact Wrestling DVD release of GFW Amped! "to substantiate his claim that Global Force Wrestling was entitled to the registration for use on DVD.” So, Anthem is arguing that Jarrett himself has already provided proof that Impact had permission to utilize the logo and name, because he himself was using that usage to support trademarking the GFW initials.

>Anthem then filed a second motion explaining that the court lacked jurisdiction over the myriad of companies related to Impact Wrestling.
[part 2 in next post]
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WrestlingTheSport - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 12:54:13 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6167109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6166827

I've seen two different sets of results; one says it was ZSJ, the other says it was just Sabre.
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Bushwhacker Luke - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 12:55:15 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6167110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6167108
[part 2]
>In that second motion, Anthem Sports broke down the different companies that Impact Wrestling falls under. The motion noted that Anthem Sports itself is a "Canadian holding company that has no day to day operations other than the ownership of several subsidiaries that house the various Anthem brands. Its primary place of business is in Toronto, Canada" and that it does not do business in the state of Tennessee and that all content distribution of Anthem entities held by Anthem Sports are done through related companies or third-party licensing agreements. Therefore, "The plaintiffs cannot plausibly allege facts sufficient to establish that this Court can assert personal jurisdiction over Anthem Sports in a manner that is consistent with the Due Process Clause."

>The motion also notes, "Anthem Sports and Anthem Wrestling are two separate and distinct legal entities and all appropriate corporate formalities have been observed. Although Anthem Wrestling is controlled by Fight Media, Anthem Wrestling has different shareholders than Anthem Sports and Anthem Wrestling is funded by financing facilities separate from the financing facilities for Anthem Sports. The two companies have different purposes, corporate missions, employees, locations, and management. The two entities maintain separate books, tax returns and financial statements, and neither entity exerts control over the daily affairs of the other."

>The motion reiterated that Anthem Sports is "merely" a holding company and does not have "any day to day operations of any kind." So, Anthem Sports, which would be above Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions, LLC in the ownership pyramid, is claiming they wouldn't technically fall under the guidelines of the court and should be dismissed as a defendant.

>Anthem Sports also noted that when Jeff Jarrett signed a non-disclosure agreement with the company during the time period he was coming in to work for them as the Chief Creative Officer, Anthem insisted upon and received a clause that any issues that arose legally would fall under New York law, noting, " Even if one believes Plaintiffs’ allegation that their claims do not relate to arise from this NDA as one is required to do at this juncture of the proceedings, these allegations actually establish that Anthem Sports deliberately did not avail itself of doing business in the forum. Obviously, if Anthem Sports initiated merger discussions pursuant to this NDA as Plaintiffs allege, it did not anticipate being hauled into court here. In fact, it expressly bargained for and obtained a contractual provision that it could not be sued in Tennessee. In light of the fact that the Complaint expressly establishes that the parties agreed that Anthem Sports could not be sued in Tennessee, these allegations cannot establish that Anthem Sports has purposely availed itself of the privilege of doing business in Tennessee for purposes of the specific jurisdiction analysis. Further, Anthem Sports asserts that this bargained-for provision that was reached as a pre-requisite for its merger discussions with Plaintiff--the facts that give rise to Plaintiffs’ purported claims--should be dispositive of the “purposeful availment” issue. Anthem Sports expressly bargained for and obtained the right not to be haled into court in Tennessee."

>So, they are claiming that Jarrett cannot technically sue them in the State of Tennesee to begin with based on the language of the agreement that he signed with the company - an agreement that as of this writing, remains sealed by the court.

>In another filing Anthem Sports and Anthem Wrestling jointly stated, "This action is the aftermath of a failed merger between two wrestling entertainment companies" and for the first time on record, gave their side of the story, stating Jarrett was actually the one in charge of the release of the GFW content and that material did not even turn a profit for the company:
"Jarrett entered into discussions wherein Jarrett’s company would merge into Anthem Wrestling in exchange for an officer-level position with a large salary, a job for Jarrett’s wife, and an equity interest in Anthem Wrestling. The plan was to use Jarrett and his extensive experience in the wrestling business to help grow and differentiate the IMPACT! Wrestling brand that Anthem had recently acquired. Jarrett would bring to the deal his GLOBAL FORCE WRESTLING and GFW brands and 16 episodes of wrestling content (the “Amped Content”) that he had produced some two years earlier but thus far had been unable to monetize. The parties planned to complete and finalize the Amped Content, add voiceover, and perform the other necessary post-production work in order to get it in shape to broadcast and sell. In order to carry out these plans, Jeff Jarrett was made Chief Creative Officer of Anthem Wrestling effective April of 2017 and given complete authority over its wrestling operations and the content that the company would create, market, and sell.

Under Mr. Jarrett’s watch as Chief Creative Officer, the Amped Content was packaged as five different PPV broadcasts and was marketed with both the GFW and IMPACT! trademarks.

The Amped Content was also packaged as DVDs and sold on-line. Also during Mr. Jarrett’s tenure as Anthem Wrestling’s Chief Creative Officer, the company decided to use the phrase “Global Wrestling Network” as a descriptor for an Over-the-Top (“OTT”) application developed by Anthem Wrestling upon which wrestling content would be marketed.

As often happens, the parties’ merger plans did not work out as expected. Mr. Jarrett was terminated near the end of October 2017. The sale and marketing of the Amped Content was not successful and did not turn a profit. "

[continued in part 3]
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Bushwhacker Luke - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 12:57:36 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6167112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6167110
[part 3]
>Anthem noted that All of Jarrett's allegations and claims against them "arise out of the same conduct--Anthem Wrestling’s broadcast and sale of the Amped Content using both parties’ trademarks pursuant to the failed merger. Remarkably, Mr. Jarrett is suing over the very conduct that he oversaw and conducted as an officer of Anthem Wrestling."

>In the joint filing, Anthem noted they began speaking to Jarrett in October 2016, which is before they officially took the company over from Dixie Carter's Impact Ventures LLC. Regarding his employment in the company, Jarrett and Anthem Wrestling signed a term sheet in May 2017. Anthem's joint filing notes, "The term sheet provided that as Chief Creative Officer, Jeff Jarrett was responsible for all wrestling operations of the Company and would have “overall responsibility and full authority” for “ensuring timely and efficient production of programming to meet the Company’s obligations under its distribution agreements to produce content for television broadcast and PPV airings, content for the Company’s digital distribution channels, [and] performance of live events. In other words, Mr. Jarrett was to be the Anthem Wrestling employee in charge of the content it would sell."

>The only reference to Jarrett's release from Impact Wrestling comes in the joint filing, reading, "It became clear the merger was not going to work for various reasons and Mr. Jarrett was terminated as Anthem Wrestling’s Chief Creative Officer at the end of October 2017." Anthem noted that all the GFW PPVs aired during Jarrett's time as Chief Creative Officer of the company, with the exception of one, which aired in December 2017 - and that any trademark violations alleged over the usage of GFW Amped materials should be tossed out because Anthem had an implied license to use the material from Jarrett and GWE via his employment as an officer for the company.

>In the joint motion, Anthem notes, "Under these circumstances, there can be no doubt that Jarrett provided the content at the request of Defendant Anthem Wrestling and that he intended that Anthem Wrestling use and distribute the content, using Plaintiffs’ trademarks. Moreover, because Plaintiff Jarrett granted this license in exchange for his salary and the promise of the anticipated merger, it is supported by consideration and is irrevocable."

>Anthem also uses the aforementioned GFW trademark filing that utilized photo proof of the GFW DVD sold by Impact Wrestling, noting, "This is the very same content and very same airing (on August 11, 2017) of it that Mr. Jarrett claims in this action is copyright and trademark infringement committed by Defendants. Yet, under penalty of perjury, he swore that this very same use
was use that inured to his benefit--in other words--use by a licensee. This SOU is a sworn admission that Defendant Anthem Wrestling’s alleged use of the Amped Content and GFW trademarks was as a valid licensee."

>The joint filing states that Jarrett and GWE's claims should be dismissed under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure when "it fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted." Anthem claims in the filing that Jarrett has incorrect information about the relationship between Anthem Sports and Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions and due to those errors, there is no actual claim that can be made against Anthem Sports.

>All the Anthem motions refer to a declaration filed by Ed Nordholm, the Executive Vice President of Anthem Sports & Entertainment Corp. In the declaration, Nordholm explains that Anthem Sports has "no business operations of its own" and is a holding company for "various operating companies and brands that are part of the Anthem portfolio", listing Fight Network, The Pursuit Channel, FNTSY Sports Network and the Edge Sport channel. The declaration notes that Anthem Sports owns a subsidiary, Anthem Sports & Entertainment. While Sports is a Canadian-based company, Anthem S&E is a United States holding company for "certain Anthem operating entities in the United States" - but like Anthem Sports, it is not registered to do business in Tennessee, has no employees and is a "passive holding company." Under Anthem Sports & Entertainment is Fight Media, the operating company of The Fight Network, which Nordholm declared, is also not registered to do business in Tennessee and is Canadian-based with all its employees in Canada.

>In the declaration, Nordholm publicly reveals for the first time how Anthem was able to take ownership of Impact Wrestling, explaining the creation of Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions, LLC, which somewhere in the pyramid of holding companies under the Anthem Sports banner, is the parent company of Impact.

>Nordholm notes in his declaration: "Anthem Wrestling was formed in order to acquire the assets of an entity called TNA Entertainment LLC, when Fight Media foreclosed on certain loans to that entity."

>So, in the middle of the Jarrett vs. Anthem lawsuit, it has been revealed that after musician (and now NWA President) Billy Corgan stopped funding Impact in October 2016, the "working capital loan to fund the operations of TNA Impact Wrestling" by Anthem Sports & Entertainment Corp (later described as a “credit relationship” by Anthem) ended up being a loan that Impact Wrestling, headed at the time by Dixie Carter, was unable to repay, which led to Anthem foreclosing on the loan, acquiring control and ownership of the company, in the process.

>Given the timeline of when they began speaking with Jarrett (according to legal filings by both Jarrett and Anthem in this case), it would appear Anthem's plan all along was to use the loans to acquire control of the company from Carter, who had been having financial difficulties in the wake of losing her TV deal with SpikeTV and with Panda Energy, Impact's original backer and parent company, divesting itself of ownership and financial support, placing Impact in the hands of Carter's Impact Ventures LLC.

>Nordhom's declaration also notes that Anthem Wrestling currenlty has 15 employees and 50 contractors that carry out its day-to-day operations and that "Anthem Sports does not control or dictate the operations of Anthem Wrestling."

>Magistrate Judge Joe Brown has ordered that any amended pleadings in the lawsuit by filed by 1/11/19. All discovery related to the case (where the two sides can obtain evidence that the other side has) is to be completed by 7/1/19 and that any dispositive motions (filed to try and knock some or all the claims out of the case) by filed by 12/15/19. A conference regarding the status of the case was ordered by 4/15/19, although that was before Anthem's multiple responses were filed.

>The next step in the case will be Jarrett and GWE responding to the numerous motions, followed by the court eventually issuing rulings. From there, the case will continue forward, shaped by what remains of the allegations (if anything) as the two sides head towards either settlement or a court date. Unless the case is thrown out, the two sides are at the start of a very long, lengthy legal process.
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Mister Toad !SsYwTDHDIY - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 13:01:17 EST ID:Z8jsFD+3 No.6167113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6167112
>Judge Joe Brown

Please be true.
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Ken Shamrock - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:32:46 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6167151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167113
It's a different guy altogether.

https://ballotpedia.org/Joe_Brown_(Tennessee_federal_judge)
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:32:55 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6167152 Report Quick Reply
>>6167151
Once you’ve seen the criteria for what is required by a AAA game these days.
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RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:44:26 EST ID:FCBSE0pm No.6167155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167113
I remember when Judge Joe Brown lost his show because kept shooting on his bosses and said some real hood shit.
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Rhino - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 15:25:33 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6167173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167152
agreed NJ
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Dasher Hatfield - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:31:24 EST ID:31Ampg4a No.6167203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167109
unless he had a teleporter it isn't him
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Eric Bischoff - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 22:14:22 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6167357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167108
LOL Jarrett is such a big dummy, yeah.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:37:01 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6167499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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New matches for Global Wars
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Damien Demento - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:20:30 EST ID:BYWa8uNF No.6167705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167499

HOUSE

SHOW

Dalton isn't even the World Heavyweight Champion anymore the fuck is he main eventing this card less Kingdom vs The Bucks is the actual main event and the Tag Team Championships aren't even up for grabs

In fact last time I cared enough to tune into ROH Taven and company were the Trios Champions.
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Paul Roma - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 19:26:33 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6167785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sandman just showed up on whatever episode of ROH that Fite is streaming. Can't say it's something I knew I wanted.
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Tito Colon - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 23:28:03 EST ID:H0OHsuCP No.6167861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167785
Pretty much how I felt at the taping. I don't watch the current product, but I heard the Flip/Ray feud was shit. That whole segmented ended up being solid. Sandman came out and everyone went nuts. The match was (to nobody's surprise) shit, but the post match angle was suprisingly good (at least to the live audience).
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Mistico - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 23:38:59 EST ID:sZIj7buj No.6167869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167499
>Matt Taven
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Darkness Crabtree - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 00:59:45 EST ID:vTtpdQ7H No.6167881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167499
When did ROH start booking the Smash Bros.?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 01:39:46 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6167891 Report Quick Reply
>>6167881
Since Death Before Dishonor VII I think. They were regulars in ROH back in 2009-2010 appearing on ROH on HDNet but now just get booked for their Canadian shows.
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The Sheik - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 01:42:56 EST ID:IdORP9Kz No.6167893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167881
Whenever the shows are in Canada. Unfortunately the Smash Bros still have work visa issues
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Eddie Guerrero - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 13:46:12 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6168102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6167499
In that render, Taven looks like some kinda geek you'd see in a fashion magazine
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Honky Tonk Man - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:30:41 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thursday night of Wrestlemania weekend:

>MLW TV taping in Queens
>DDT in Queens
>Wrestlecon Supershow in Manhattan
>Interspecies Wrestling in Jersey City

and now: IMPACT + Amazing Red's House of Glory on Twitch (in Queens)
https://impactwrestling.com/event/culture-clash-2019/
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:33:07 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6168131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168129
Sucks it's not another Impact vs. LU show but hope they get a decent turnout depending on what's booked for the show.
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Bull Nanako - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:43:51 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6168134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168129
>Thursday
>8:00 pm - 10:30 pm
I guess POP isn't signing them to a new contract for 2019
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Honky Tonk Man - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:44:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168131
Honestly, I think they should have taken the risk and run on Saturday night opposite ROH @ MSG and NXT. There's enough people in town and right now, its only those two shows (one of which was basically sold out entirely by HonorClub members)

Pentagon & Fenix are booked for the WC Supershow, there's no way they can bounce between Manhattan and Queens for 3 shows.

And it seems like Wrestlecon will be the home of ROH-NJPW-Rev Pro talents. Feels like it's going to get bloodthirsty that weekend in trying to share talents.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:53:09 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6168137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168134
Yeah it is weird they aren't doing it on Friday night like last year and it doesn't conflict with their weekly show.

>>6168135
Impact is still in its rebuilding phase, would have been too big of a risk, but it certainly would have been an alternative for those who couldn't get tickets to the NXT and ROH/NJPW shows.
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Hajime Ohara - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 11:36:15 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6168129
speaking of, Impact has a few Twitch Specials and ONOs lined up for the next few months:

Twitch:
November: "Gold Rush" with Big Time Wrestling - https://impactwrestling.com/event/gold-rush-on-twitter/
January: "Battle of Brooklyn" with WrestlePro - https://impactwrestling.com/event/battle-of-brooklyn/
Wrestlemania weekend: "Culture Clash" with House of Glory - https://impactwrestling.com/event/culture-clash-2019/

GWN One Night Only
November: Border City 25th Anniversary (this is the show with David Arquette wrestling) - https://impactwrestling.com/event/bcw-25th-anniversary-on-gwn/
December: "Back to Cali" with Big Time Wrestling - https://impactwrestling.com/event/one-night-only-back-to-cali/
February: "New Beginnings" with Pennsylvania Premiere Wrestling - https://impactwrestling.com/event/one-night-only-new-beginnings/
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 11:49:02 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6168563 Report Quick Reply
Since we're posting future dates, ROH has five On Tour events coming up in the next few months:

>Honor Reigns Supreme 2019 - https://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/11319-honor-reigns-supreme-concord-nc
>Road to G1 Supercard: Dallas - https://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/12419-road-g1-supercard-dallas-tx
>Road to G1 Supercard: Houston - https://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/12519-road-g1-supercard-houston-tx
>Road to G1 Supercard: San Antonio - https://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/12619-road-g1-supercard-san-antonio-tx
>G1 Supercard - https://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/4619-g1-supercard-new-york-ny

>>6168558
BCW 25th Anniversary was already taped the night before Motown Showdown last month. November 16 is the broadcast date on GWN, which we'll probably show in /wooo/tube on December 1.
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Sherri Martel - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 12:07:49 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6168570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168558
I was kinda hoping that Impact could pull together a show with all the DDT and DG talent that would be coming to the US during WM weekend.
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Al Wilson - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 12:19:42 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6168577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168570
I'm not sure if they are still working with NOAH but if they are it might restrict them from working with DDT and DG
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Sherri Martel - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 12:25:18 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6168579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168135
Impact is basically an indie now at least as far as talent goes. Pentagon and Fenix are their big draws and if they could have secured them exclusively then it would have meant something.

For all the hype about Callis, it feels like he's about to unveil something awesome but it's not coming. This year they've shilled the fuck out of the Jericho Cruise and what did they get in return? Are we ever going to see that YB/LAX match? Jericho even made Pentagon look like a geek at All In by stealing his thunder and dressing up like him for a lame angle with Omega.

I get that they are cutting costs and tv production isn't cheap but TV wrestling these days feels depressing with the fact that WWE has about ten different shows and even the bottom rung shit like NXT UK and MYC will get more fans online talking than Impact's best weekly shows.

Hell, the whole weekend's built around Wrestlemania, the flagship show of a company who over the last five years has had probably some of the worst booking in wrestling history. And yet they continue to make money. It's just so tiresome.
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Hajime Ohara - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 13:50:20 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168570
There's still a long time between now and April but I wouldn't count on any DDT or DG guys at the Impact show. If Wrestlecon is paying to fly in Dragongate, they're working the Supershow which is running at the exact same time. The same goes for DDT & Gabe. I just don't think it's logistically possible, to say nothing of the political alliances happening that weekend.
I don't know how much Impact & NOAH are still working together or if NJPW changes their mind about working with Impact (we'll see what happens once Cody and the Bucks' ROH contracts end)

>>6168579
>Are we ever going to see that YB/LAX match?
I don't think it was ever advertised as anything other than an exclusive to the cruise. Impact is trying to court Jericho and they gave lent him Impact talents to help sell tickets to his cruise event. He's clearly on good terms with them, even while he was trying to figure out how make moves outside of WWE.

>Jericho even made Pentagon look like a geek at All In by stealing his thunder and dressing up like him for a lame angle with Omega.
what does this have to do with impact?

>For all the hype about Callis, it feels like he's about to unveil something awesome but it's not coming.
TBF, no one had any idea that he put together the Jericho-Omega deal until it was time to pull the trigger. And whatever is going on behind the scenes with their TV deal involves Anthem people and not just Callis.

One thing for sure is ever since Anthem took over -- and more importantly since Jeremy Borash left -- it's been almost impossible for any dirtsheet scoops to leak out of Impact. The rumor was that JB was a lot of newz writers' inside source. They run a much tighter ship compared to the Dixie days, when every single fuck-up was broadcast to any and all fans.
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Sherri Martel - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:43:57 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6168646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168624
The thing is when you look at the hypothetical of NJPW and Impact working together, how many people do Impact actually have as 100% "their guys". Eddie, Swann, Moose, New Johnny Pro wrestling, and maybe Callihan might be the only ones they could take. Just pure fantasy booking now, but I only say the Eddie/Kenou match when he was in Noah and it was brutal as anything. Would be interested to see him in a NJPW ring.

As for the All In thing, Pentagon was most associated with Impact at the time of filming (even though he works for other companies. I just felt the post match angle was lame. I guess you could also say that Tessa was repping the company too, but she didn't carry her Impact title with her, not sure why, but it's these details that the Impact management should be controlling a little bit better in my opinion.

If it's true what you say about JB, then he must be dumb in some respects, because even the tiniest of fuck ups sent the IWC into sperg outs, perhaps he was doing it for the boys, but it didn't help Impact's rep and thus his.
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Pinkie Sanchez - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:58:50 EST ID:KhMz6z5D No.6168655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168646
Omega also didn’t have the IWGP title with him at All In. I don’t understand that shit.
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Hajime Ohara - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 15:14:52 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168655
>>6168646
>As for the All In thing, Pentagon was most associated with Impact at the time of filming (even though he works for other companies.)
>Tessa was repping the company too, but she didn't carry her Impact title with her, not sure why, but it's these details that the Impact management should be controlling a little bit better in my opinion.
>Omega also didn’t have the IWGP title with him at All In. I don’t understand that shit.

ALL IN was 100% a freelance show. Impact and NJPW (and LU) let their contracted talents work that show but it wasn't an "Impact-NJPW-LU" co-production by any means.

The reason none of those titles were on the show was because the companies were protecting their trademarks. They're not letting their belts get featured unless they give permission to do so.

The reason ROH was the most prominently featured promotion at ALL IN was because ROH foot the bill for the show and handled the backstage production. That's also the reason is was broadcast on HonorClub.

In a way, ALL IN became an ROH side project (featuring guest stars from other promotions).
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Alere Little Feather - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 19:28:34 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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pwinsider
*]Sinclair Broadcast Group, the owner of Ring of Honor, issued their third quarter earnings for 2018 today. During a stockholders call today, Ring of Honor was brought up by analyst Aaron Watts, while asking about investments the company has made, noting, "I think, somewhat unique from some of your peers, you've put a lot of money to work in non-local content initiatives via Tennis Channel, college football, wrestling. As you said today, can you maybe give us your vantage point on how you would say those investments are working out versus maybe your initial expectations? And, do those experiences affect your mindset about acquiring more content platforms of a similar vein going forward, you're obviously sitting on a lot of cash in an enviable position on that front. So, just curious about that that experience."[/*]

Ripley responded:
>"Sure. So, look I think saying that we've invested a lot of money is maybe a slight mischaracterization. Beyond Tennis, we really haven't spent significant dollars on content and Ring of Honor, I think, we bought for a couple hundred thousand dollars.

>And it's, we think that's an unpolished gem that ultimately should be something in the same light as WWE. We actually sold out Madison Square Gardens for an event next year in 11 minutes. So, we know that that that brand has potential. It just – it hasn't, we haven't quite found the right dials to turn yet, but we keep increasing the grass roots support on it and it has just a very, very loyal and avid fan base which is what you really need to explode a brand.

>And on the syndicated side, we have we've been smart about investments there, using our leverage to not only reduce our costs there but also get equity positions in various – or equity like positions in various programs with little-to-no capital. So that's been a very profitable endeavor for us.

>And then on Tennis, which we did spend a decent chunk of change buying, it was a net price of $285 million and further investments in Tennis.com and Tennis magazine and you probably just saw that we signed up the WTA for a five-year deal and we've also expanded other rights in other categories, like the French Open where we put more premium matches on our air and then also revamped our OTT app.

>So, it's been an investment period for Tennis and Tennis is setting up exceptionally well for future growth with 2020 will be the breakout year for Tennis in a big way. And that'll be the year where we sit back and look and say, wow, we really – all this work and investment that we put in has paid off in spades as 2020 looks to be a huge year for Tennis.

>So, I guess, the overall question to your answer is when I look across what we've done in content, we're in varying stages of development, but we've always had a good return on everything we've done, but I wouldn't say that we've spent all that much risk capital when you consider the scale of the company overall.'
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Alere Little Feather - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 10:17:44 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6168990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, here is the card for the December 14th ROH Final Battle, which takes place at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York…

> Bully Ray vs. Flip Gordon
> Jonathan Gresham vs. Zack Sabre Jr.
> Matt Taven vs. Dalton Castle
> Christopher Daniels vs. Marty Scurll
> ROH Women of Honor Champion Sumie Sakai vs. Madison Rayne vs. TBD vs. TBA
> ROH Tag Team Champions Kazarian & Sky vs. The Briscoes vs. The Young Bucks (ladder match)
> ROH TV Champion Jeff Cobb vs. Adam Page
> ROH Champion Jay Lethal vs. Cody
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Mister Toad !SsYwTDHDIY - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 10:21:35 EST ID:Z8jsFD+3 No.6168992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168776
I love how Sinclair played that to look like ROH was the draw for the show next year. Not in a million years.
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Terra Ryzin - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 10:51:24 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6169006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168990
That’s gonna be a yikes from me dog
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Gree Ant - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 10:53:53 EST ID:P5EsvL3b No.6169010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168990
>Kenny King nowhere on the card

LMAO
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Mitsuharu Misawa - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 11:13:19 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6169026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6168990
looks like a good card
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The Boogeyman - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 11:18:08 EST ID:DAl4M+qm No.6169029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169026
agreed.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:25:01 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6169123 Report Quick Reply
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A month after his debut in MLW, Rush makes his debut in ROH.
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R.D. Evans - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:27:27 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.6169125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169123

I misread that as Final Bailout.
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Headbanger Trasher - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:44:24 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6169131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169123
I fucking hate fonts that cut up letters like that. It just reads to me as "Final 13attle Fallolit"

Just like Ciampa's NXT titantron reads as "Ciarnpa"
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Jimmy Uso - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 16:15:26 EST ID:8yqvpk/a No.6169166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169123
lolROH
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CIMA - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 21:10:35 EST ID:lY5Th+xU No.6169345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169125
might as well be for ROH
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Dixie Carter - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 21:34:07 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6169363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169345
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Tara - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 11:13:03 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6169499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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LA Park, Rush, Pentagon, Fenix = DRAWS

>Tonight, Major League Wrestling (MLW) is in Chicago to tape it’s next event for it’s BeIN Sports show MLW Fusion entitled Fightland, and according to MLW owner Court Bauer, it “will shatter its all-time attendance record”.

>The record was previously 1,536 people in attendance for the June 20, 2003 event MLW Hybrid Hell, back during MLW’s initial run from 2002 through 2004. MLW began as one of the Fellowship of the Ring that kickstarted the indie revolution, alongside Ring of Honor, CHIKARA, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla and TNA. Tonight’s event is being held at the Cicero Stadium. Cicero Stadium’s listed capacity is 6,000 people, but with wrestling, the number is usually much smaller. Regardless, it is a huge number for an independent show, most likely ranging in the 2,500 mark. That would exceed numbers for IMPACT Wrestling‘s PPVs and be on par with some of Ring of Honor’s.

>MLW has created a unique product that combines elements from various promotions to make them distinctly their own, incorporating familiar indie stars alongside emerging talent from around the world. For every Sami Callihan, Jimmy Havoc or Low Ki they have, they are introducing international stars like Puma King, Daga, and Salina de la Renta. They’ve also brought in indie buzz stars like PCO and Marko Stunt, and are another promotion (alongside IMPACT and Lucha Underground) to work with the sensational Lucha Brothers (Pentagon Jr. & Fenix). They’ve brought back some of the old guards, like WCW’s Col. Robert Parker and ECW’s Tommy Dreamer, and worked in with new stars like “Filthy” Tom Lawlor, Brody King and Parrow. And they’ve even carried on traditions like War Games and family legacies, like The New Hart Foundation (Teddy Hart, Davey Boy Smith Jr., & Brian Pillman Jr.) and The Samoan Island Tribe (Lance Anoi’a & Samu). That June 2003 event that previously held the attendance record was headlined by a No Ropes Barbed Wire Non-Title Match between MLW Heavyweight Champion Steve Corino and Terry Funk, while tonight’s will feature MLW Heavyweight Champion Low Ki defending against former champion Shane “Swerve” Strickland.
https://lastwordonprowrestling.com/2018/11/08/mlw-will-shatter-company-attendance-record-with-tonights-fightland/
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Chii Tomiya - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 11:25:11 EST ID:j1ye93aL No.6169502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169499

There wasn't 2,500 people there, nor can Cicero Stadium hold 6,000 people. It's about the same size as the Nashville Fairgrounds Sports Arena/TNA Asylum, so around 1,800. MLW yes, sold out.
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Kimberly Page - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 12:01:51 EST ID:z7i/YYk5 No.6169512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169499
Park and the Lucha Bros were already the hypest shit to hit the USA scene in years, now Rush is gonna make this atomic
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Prince Nana - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 12:14:14 EST ID:vOMJge1i No.6169517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6169499
based lucha wrestlers
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WrestlingTheSport - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:36:54 EST ID:oBzrFcJd No.6169552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6169499

And I think we know who to thank for that crowd.

Based Acey Baby does it again!
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:04:42 EST ID:su0E0teN No.6169694 Report Quick Reply
Results from MLW Fightland - http://www.pwponderings.com/2018/11/09/mlw-11-08-18-fightland-results/

>>6169499
Good for MLW breaking its attendance record and its got a great mix of lucha and indie talent
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Madison Rayne - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:45:19 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6169934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InxcfYODzY8
Cheeseburger's theme
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Sinister Minister - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:47:19 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6170879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The 11/8 edition of Impact did 129,000 viewers, up from last week's 105,000 overnight viewers. That is their best number in their new time slot.

>Mike Johnson noted on PWInsider audio that The OGz (Homicide, Eddie Kingston and Hernandez) are not under contract.

>Johnson said the following after Thursday’s Impact: “The one question I have for Impact management coming out of this is how the hell are Homicide and Hernandez and Kingston not signed to any sort of contract? I know for a fact there’s no paper on any of these guys.”

>It is odd for such talented guys not to be signed especially with companies like WWE, New Japan Pro Wrestling and Ring Of Honor looking for more top talent. Johnson added, “I don’t understand how these guys are not locked in somewhere especially in the day in age where WWE is looking for Latin talent.”

>You can argue that the OGz vs. LAX storyline has been one of the highlights of Impact this year and their match at Bound For Glory and they should get praise for working in that Concrete Jungle match at Bound For Glory and making it all work despite the limitations that come with wrestling on the exposed ring board. Johnson added, “I don’t understand how Impact doesn’t sign these guys. I don’t understand why they’re not used in a more prominent position. No matter what they are asked to do, they do it well.”

>Unless things change in the next few days, The OGz are not scheduled to appear at the tapings that start next weekend. Johnson said, “One Impact source even confirmed to me they’re not even booked on the TV tapings in Vegas. I don’t know why. Maybe this was the way they’re being written out of the company, for all I know. I would hope not but we’ll have to wait and see.”

Impact Wrestling Spoilers From Las Vegas
>Xplosion taping: The Pillars of Destiny def. The One Percent (Joerel Nelson & Royce Isaacs)
>LAX with Konnan beat Fallah Bahh & KM
>Tessa Blanchard beat Ray Lyn (Rachel Bostic)
>After the match Tessa called out Taya Valkyrie. Taya told Tessa they have a title match for Homecoming.
>Johnny Impact beat Matt Sydal with Ethan Page. Killer Kross came out after the match and offered his assistance to Impact. Impact told him he didn’t trust him and left him in the ring.
>Eli Drake came to the ring to insult hardcore wrestling which brought Tommy Dreamer out to defend those wrestlers and fans. Going to fight until Drake left the ring.
>Su Yung beat Heather Monroe. Yung would not release the submission hold until Kiera Hogan made the save. This brought out Allie and her and Yung laid out Hogan.
>Lucha Bros. beat Rich Swann & Willie Mack in the match of the night. LAX came out to congratulate the Lucha Bros. and that they want them to challenge at Homecoming.
>Jordynne Grace beat Katarina
>The Rascalz beat Chris Bey & Mike Sydal
>Desi Hit Squad beat Damian Drake & Manny Lemons
> Main Event X-Division Title Match: Champion Brian Cage beat Sami Callihan with OVE. After the match Cage said he was going to cash in the title at Homecoming.
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Shane McMahon - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:42:01 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6170896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6170879
I always figured the OGz were going to go away at some point anyways? Impact also doesn't have most of their guys on contracts on purpose. They encourage their talent working in other places and have publicly talked about it all the time.. Mike Johnson needs to calm his dick. If they do lose the OGz it's really not a big hit on Impact. That entire feud was to get the new LAX over and it worked.
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The People - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:03:57 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.6170904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6170879
>This brought out Allie and her and Yung laid out Hogan.
Holy fuck, when did Allie do the full heel turn? I haven't been paying attention since Bound for Glory, so I don't know what direction they've taken the Dark Bunny saga.
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Shane McMahon - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:06:05 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6170905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6170904
ever since she has been turning into the dark bunny she has been not herself and last week she went off with james mitchel and su yung leaving kiera hogan behind.
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Kanyon - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:25:16 EST ID:Lca6wfJc No.6170964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6170879
Man I really hope they find a place for King. Dude is solid gold on the mic. It was lit having Homicide and Hernandez back, but there's not much place for them atm.

The new regime said a long time ago that they plan on building some core guys and girls and rotating everyone else to keep things fresh. Makes a lot of sense.
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Batista - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:43:37 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6171561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6170879
>Night two of the IMPACT TV tapings in Vegas.

>IMPACT Wrestling held their second night of television tapings from Sam's Town Hotel And Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. The tapings continued the build towards the Jan. 6 Homecoming event. Read below if you want to find out what happens.

>Spoilers come courtesy of PWInsider.
>Hammerstone def. Nick Brubaker (Xplosion bout)
>Scarlett Bordeaux dances.
>Taya Valkyrie & Johnny Impact def. Tessa Blanchard & Moose in a mixed tag match. Following the match Moose speared Impact. Tessa was going to hit Taya with a chair but Killer Kross stopped her. Brian Cage came down and went after Kross. Impact and Cage had a stare down.
>Jake Crist def. Willie Mack in an Ultimate X qualifying match.
>Allie (w/ Su Yung) def. Heather Monroe. After the match Allie put the mandible claw on Monroe. Kiera Hogan made the save, but Yung attacked Hogan and Allie put the claw on Hogan.
>Ethan Page def. Matt Sydal in an Ultimate X qualifying match.
>Jordynne Grace def. Ruby Raze (w/ Katarina).
>Rich Swann def. Dave Crist in an Ultimate X qualifying match. Swann was attacked by oVe after the match. Mack made the save.
>Trey Miguel def. Trevor Lee in an Ultimate X qualifying match.
>Fenix (w/ Pentagon Jr.) def. Santana (w/ Ortiz).
>Moose def. Brian Cage by DQ when Eddie Edwards attacked Moose.
>The 2nd Annual Eli Drake Gravy Train Turkey Trot 10-person tag match (Loser wears a turkey suit): Kikutaro & Xavier & Alisha & Fallah Bahh & KM def. Disco Inferno & Eli Drake & Raju & Katarina & Jake Crist. Inferno got pinned by Bahh. Inferno put on the Turkey suit.
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Smash - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:52:36 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6171567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171561
>Scarlett Bordeaux dances.

I'm sold.
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Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:11:30 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6171575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171561
>Disco Inferno... Inferno put on the Turkey suit.
Is Russo back?
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Jamie Noble - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:14:18 EST ID:4HkBL4Ou No.6171577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171561
>that last spoiler

lol I need to see that
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Jesse The Body Ventura - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:22:24 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6171580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171575
no, he's friends with Don.
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Batista - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:43:49 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6171609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171575
comedy spots on holiday shows existed in wrestling for decades before Russo.
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Brendan Michael Thomas - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:53:46 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6171638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171561
> Kikutaro on IMPACT
Fucking based
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Al Wilson - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:48:46 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6171664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171575
The thanksgiving turkey suit thing has been going on for years. It's just a silly tradition. Good fun live too.

Russo would make the turkey suit have a big stakes pay off and be hung on a pole in a main event of a PPV.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 14-11-2018 08:57:54
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:11:55 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6171676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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First match made for Never Say Never next month

Also MLW Fusion will be uploaded to Youtube at 8pm EST on Friday since it’s not airing till 1am on BeIn Sports that night.
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Batista - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:26:36 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6171685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171676
LOL I can't wait for MLW and ROH to get into a spat over booking Rush. It's coming.
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Monty Brown - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:48:47 EST ID:R02LuJOZ No.6171690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6171685
ROH throws a fit at CMLL
Rush tells CMLL fuck ROH
CMLL joins NWA
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Ax - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:50:05 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6172275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6165863
>>6162267
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Ricochet - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:55:19 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6172281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172275
How about PopTV?
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Greg Iron - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:57:08 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6172283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172275
>call your cable provider
Has this ever worked, ever? I was under the impression the cable company doesn't like people worrying them over this bullshit. Especially a bunch of idiot wrestling fans yelling about muh company wars.

>suggests some channels they can drop
Yeah, that will go over well.
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Dale Torborg - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:09:24 EST ID:0AcdH2Qk No.6172294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>mark calls cable provider ranting about wrestling and some random smallfry network they should "just have" in place of other deals they have already established
>"okay sir let me transfer you to the feedback department"
>call transferred to a voicemail with a prerecorded generic message about your feedback kayfabe meaning something which gets emptied daily without without being listened to

is probably how that would go
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Athena - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:33:18 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6172310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
back in the day calling your cable provider politely and requesting they pick up a channel wouldn't guarantee they'd get it, but it was basically the only way they'd know anybody wanted it

nowadays they probably figure "fuck it, these dummies are still paying for cable, they won't quit if we shit on their front porch." then they send a guy over to shit on your porch.
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Ax - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:38:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6172315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SPOILER ALERT FROM IMPACT IN VEGAS TONIGHT:

Raven is back and involved in the Eli Drake- Tommy Dreamer feud
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:40:23 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6172316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172315

I mean... that makes complete sense. It's a Tommy Dreamer feud. Of course Raven has to get involved at some point. That was one of the 10 commandments that Arceus delivered to Moses: If Tommy Dreamer is in a feud, Raven will show up.
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Edge - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:43:22 EST ID:fKgU0wdg No.6172317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172315
there's no escape from this fucking feud is there?
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Wataru Inoue - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:50:07 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6172323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172315
pls mr bones, let me get off this fucking ride
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Bushwhacker Butch - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 03:04:50 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6172367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6172317
nope
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Daffney - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 03:19:15 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6172370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172315
oh cool
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Daffney - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 03:22:05 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6172372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6170879
Is Mike Johnson trying to sabotage Impact or something? Why would they want to sign the OGZ to a full time contracts? They are decent enough, but implying that NJPW, WWE or ROH would sign them is nonsense.
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Bison Smith - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:52:00 EST ID:vWrhfUxf No.6172432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172372
because all anyone knows is the wwe model, so if another company does it differently than wwe, they're doing it "wrong"

apparently, its also "wrong" if a company emulates wwe so who knows

smarks hold Impact to a different standard and anything that is different or not perfect or not explained is the second coming of AOL canceling Vince Russo's WCW (i'm not xcusing the actual mistakes made under the Dixie regime)
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:04:14 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6172437 Report Quick Reply
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First match officially announced for Final Battle. Matt Taven putting his "real" world title on the line against Dalton Castle, which stems from the four way match where Jay Lethal won the title from Dalton but Taven had Dalton pinned for 8 seconds while the ref was down and believed he was robbed hence creating the title.

>>6172283
>Has this ever worked, ever?

It did for Comedy Central after South Park debuted
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bari - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:27:15 EST ID:Dy/W4DEK No.6172447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172437
>matt taven
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Lana Star - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:27:34 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6172448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172315
neato and makes a lot of sense considering he was a main eventer during the asylum era.
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Damien Demento - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:37:59 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6172620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172372
>>6172432
This. Some of these wrestling reporters are going out of their way to shit on impact and its cringey as fuck. Meanwhile the guys who originally were ripping TNA to pieces(Bryan and Vinny), have been praising it and interviewing people from Impact on WOL pretty regularly. Signing the OGz would be fucking stupid. It was fun seeing them on television again but they were clearly their for a short time. I could see King coming back for something but there is no real point in continuing with two versions of LAX now that the feud is over.

That's another thing. Impact actually has feuds that pay off and storytelling with beginning, middle and ends. You can watch the weekly show and then the PPVs and most likely see a real life story arc that was written and executed. It's awesome to see that in 2018 where we live in a world of feudless wrestling or storylines that just go nowhere.

It's the only wrestling show besides MLW that I 100% tune into and watch fully every single week and I think more people need to do this. You can clearly see that Don Callis is inspired from ECW in a lot of ways. They are doing a great job at hiding peoples weaknesses and promoting peoples strengths. Fucking Moose Vs Eddie Edwards was a great match last week. MOOSE! and EDDIE EDWARDS!. Johnny Impact Vs Killer Kross was another great match. They made me give a shit about Johnny surrname and that is impressive. They made me care about Moose, LAX, Eddie Edwards, Allie, Fallah Bah, Brian Cage and even fucking KM. They need to use Trevor Lee more in my opinion. I don't know who he pissed off but he has not been used very much at all. Killer Kross is a beast. The knockouts division is more entertaining on a consistent basis then WWEs divas evolution(except for some obvious examples). They use older stars in very tasteful ways and don't shove them down our throats. Eli Drake taking the "anti-hardcore" gimmick is awesome. I'm excited for the next set of tapings.

In the past few months the only times Impact has dropped the ball was with that Su Yung PPV thing and Austin Aries walk out. That's it. It's a shame it was on Bound For Glory because wrestling smarks got their dicks nice and hard for another 6 months of shit flinging at impact.
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Vito Thomaselli - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:01:26 EST ID:H+HnPzss No.6172651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172620
IMPACT has been great but every time someone defends it like this on /qppp/ it reeks of desperation.

Like an abusive boyfriend telling their girl they've changed.
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Damien Demento - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:21:06 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6172678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172651
I just like the product a lot and enjoy talking about it :)
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Ebessan - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:24:31 EST ID:7iR2WF/c No.6172683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172678
Based
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Ricochet - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:34:11 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6172687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6172651
>IMPACT has been great but every time someone defends it like this on /qppp/ it reeks of desperation.

And all the "I don't watch WWE at all" posts don't? I'd honestly rather have Damien Demento RNG there defending something they like and trying to get other people into it than a million posts about how much people hate WWE and refuse to watch it and all that shit. If'n you have the balls to be sincere, maybe you should try doing what they did for something you love about pro wrestling.
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 23:31:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6173050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6170879
>>6171561
>IMPACT Wrestling held their third and final set of television tapings on Tuesday at Sam Town’s Casino in Las Vegas.

>Read below if you want to find out what happened.
>Eli Drake def. Tommy Dreamer. The match originally ended with Dreamer winning by count out. However, the bout was restarted as a No DQ match.
>Taya Valkyrie def. Ray Cray. Tessa Blanchard came out and went after Valkyrie. She attacked the referee, who tried to stop her. Gail Kim and IMPACT officials got things under control.
>The Rascals, Rich Swann & Willie Mack def. Matt Sydal, Ethan Page & OVE. OVE put Mack through a table after the match.
>Eli Drake sets up a Monster's Ball match with Abyss at Homecoming. Tommy Dreamer comes out and brawls with Drake. The lights go out and Raven is in the ring. Dreamer and Raven attack Drake.
>Allie def. Kiera Hogan. After the bout, Allie and Su Yung both attack Hogan. Jordynne Grace makes the save.
>Killer Kross def. Trevor Lee
>Gail Kim is announced as the guest referee for Valkyrie vs. Blanchard at Homecoming.
>The Desi Hit Squad def. KM & Fallah Bahh
>Katarina def. Lisa Lacey
>Pentagon Jr. & Fenix def. Johnny Impact & Brian Cage. Cage accidentally hit Impact during the bout. They do a pull apart brawl after the match.
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Leilani Kai - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 23:49:41 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6173052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6172651
kinda true, but its also true that this is because most people in this board, or any wrestling forum really, have also a costant hateboner for tna/impact and all they have to argue for it is wacky russo moments from almost a decade ago

impact is probably the best wrestling going on rn, and has been good to great for a bunch of years now (except 2015 holy shit), so its kinda upsetting that a show that enternained me for so many hours is looked down upon by people who most likely watch wwe shows every week
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El Santo - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:31:09 EST ID:FMJC6NUx No.6173059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173052
There’s literally nothing in Impact you can’t see done better elsewhere
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Leilani Kai - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:38:44 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6173060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173059
be specific
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Kid Kash - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:46:46 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6173061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173060
if Nino Hamburgesa still did his high spot of eating a burger standing on the turnbuckle for a powerup I'd say he's a better fatty than Fallah Bahh
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El Santo - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:52:41 EST ID:FMJC6NUx No.6173062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173060
Lucha Bros
Hennigan
Sydal
Cage

All better elsewhere.
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Don Muraco - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 01:06:15 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6173064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173059
IMPACT managed to make me give a shit about Eddie Edwards.
And the current LAX, Eli Drake, Moose & others are doing some pretty solid work there too, imo.
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Kid Kash - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 01:07:40 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6173065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173064
>IMPACT managed to make me give a shit about Eddie Edwards.
this is some miracle shit right here now that I think about it
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 01:15:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6173066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173059
such as?
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Leilani Kai - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 01:31:39 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6173071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173062
>Lucha Bros
fair, but they're still great in impact
>Hennigan
nah, especially now that he's champion, he was good in aaa but he fits better in the american style
>Sydal
i could give absolutely no shit about sydal without the gimmick impact gave him
>Cage
he's built better as a monster in impact than in any other promotion, so no
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Tina Ferrari - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 07:25:50 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6173143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
After all the time Callis spent ripping on Ohio, I'm starting to see oVe as babyfaces. Cage will probably get his revenge but seeing him beaten down was very satisfying.
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Smash - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:24:38 EST ID:1iD0fSLt No.6173241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173143
sami started it by beating callis down with a baseball bat
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Don West - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:11:58 EST ID:j/cCbC7E No.6173281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173059
>wahh wahh stop enjoying Impact!
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Tina Ferrari - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:59:18 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.6173302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173241
>hate this guy because he beat up a heel commentator
I can't
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Mark Henry - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:58:58 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6173403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173059
You clearly don't follow Impact. Watching one random episode on the year doesn't mean you know shit.

Also everyone you listed has been better in Impact imo. I even like the Lucha Bros more there.
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Sami Callihan - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:53:26 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6173653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6172275
>>6168558

from this week's dirtsheet thread:
> The TV contract with Pop TV ends on 12/31, but Impact will still be on Pop at least in early 2019. There was still an Arolucha commercial that played during Impact saying Arolucha was coming in 2019 but again not specifying where

https://twitter.com/TorchMcMahon/status/1063066314112204803
>According to @iPeteyWilliams on his @WP_Pod, Impact's upcoming television taping schedule includes ...
>Jan 6 - Nashville (PPV)
>Jan 7 - Nashville (TV taping)
>Jan - Mexico (TV taping)
>Feb - Vegas (TV taping)
>March - Windsor (TV taping)
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Sami Callihan - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:32:49 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6173758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This was inevitable as soon as the Hardys went back
>Former X-Division Champion Trevor Lee is no longer with Impact Wrestling. PWInsider first reported the news and we have confirmed that it was an amicable departure and Lee was the one to give notice.

>WWE is interested in signing him for NXT and he has many friends in the company, including The Hardys and Jeremy Borash.

>The 25-year old debuted with Impact in 2015 as part of Global Force Wrestling’s invasion storyline. He eventually became a member of the Impact roster and has been praised for his excellent in-ring work.

>Lee’s great in-ring work has been known to many in the North Carolina area. If he signs with WWE then he will be able to showcase his talents on a much bigger stage.

>With the next round of talents scheduled to be announced in January, it would not shock me if he joins NXT around that time.
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Ranjin Singh - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:37:03 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6173765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173758
;_; so that's why Caleb disappeared and then Trevor started jobbing. Good luck Trevor i'll miss ya, enjoy your retirement.
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:39:58 EST ID:4bsqxVFb No.6173767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173758

Neat. I wonder who they'll now put Scarlett Bordeaux with eventually? It seemed like they had been going in the direction of Trevor impressing Scarlett enough to win her talent search.
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Mean Smark Callous !cs5kPghcWU - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:53:35 EST ID:4bsqxVFb No.6173782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173758

Also, I wonder if they'll make him change his name (perhaps his real name of Trevor Caddell), because of Keith Lee.

nb for double post.
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Sami Callihan - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:07:10 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6173795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DJ Z is probably next. Would not be surprised if Trevor, DJ Z and Andrew Everett are all in NXT in January.

>"TNA doesn't have anybody we want"
In the last 2 years, NXT/WWE has taken
>"fat, druggie, scandal-ridden" Matt & Jeff
>Bobby Roode
>Eric Young
>Drew McIntyre
>Austin Aries lol
>GUNNER
>Mahabali Shera
>Shark Boy
>EC3
>Lashley
>The Anthem Owl
>Laurel Van Ness
>Jeremy Borash & the Broken Universe production team
>Tomko
>locked down Samoa Joe as soon as ROH got a TV deal on Destination America
>didn't care about free agent AJ Styles in NJPW until Dixie begged him to come back in 2016
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DJ Skittlez - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:12:34 EST ID:W72gg2QE No.6173798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173795
Shark Boy?


Yeah and you're right the way WWE worked the IWC into thinking that TNA was a place for no hopers and ten as soon as they lost their Spike deal began signing all the stars that came pre packaged and ready made for them.

And the only reason they signed Styles in the first place was to spite TNA
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Johnny Saint - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:21:25 EST ID:QSGu3A37 No.6173802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173795
>The last 2 years wwe took
> Shark boy
> The Owl
> Tomko
But they didn't though....
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Tsukushi - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:42:26 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6173813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did The Anthem Owl ever appear outside of The Impact Zone?
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Ranjin Singh - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:49:37 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6173820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173795
Tomko??? that happened like ten years ago. And he returned for a couple of matches in 2009 iirc but he was so out of shape.
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Sami Callihan - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 16:36:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6173967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Andrew Everett, who previously worked for Impact Wrestling, will make his MLW debut at their December tapings in Miami. He will be a regular with the company starting in 2019.

>CMLL star Rush is also expected to be a regular going forward.

>MLW is planning to launch a Spanish-language Youtube channel to reach a Latin demographic.
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Captain Lou Albano - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:13:09 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6173998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Huge ratings drop

Didn't make it in the top 150 shows
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Psycho Clown - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:33:46 EST ID:JPnpYcmh No.6174008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173998
I will never understand why good television always does bad.
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The Gobbledy Gooker - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:44:24 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6174016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6173758
they barely used the guy most of the time, can't say I blame him
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Delirious - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:46:36 EST ID:PpNm7R9B No.6174018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174008
Impact is consistently better than Raw but let's be real, that's a low bar. Impact just doesn't have any hot angles at the moment, and it's not a live, regularly touring, show. That hurts it in the ratings and in generating and keeping fan interest.
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Sami Callihan - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:02:56 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6174025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174016
I think he was used pretty well for his age/experience level when the Hardys ruled the locker room. And Jarrett was clearly a fan of his during both GFW crossovers.
Once the Hardys went back to WWE, it was pretty clear that Trevor was NXT-bound. His dad was part of the OMEGA crew.

>>6174018
>Impact just doesn't have any hot angles at the moment
It's really interesting to me that smark-approved stuff like Lucha Bros vs oVe, Brian Cage's Goldberg-like streak, and the LAX/OGz blood feud don't actually translate to ratings. They were dropping even before the bump to 10pm

Even the Broken Hardys stuff led to quickly diminishing returns after Final Deletion.

The only thing that's been a quantifiable draw post "Final Deletion" was Alberto Del Rio ... but he's an unprofessional, publicity-nightmare... which didn't actually hurt his ability to draw ratings.
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Lizzy Valentine - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:13:10 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6174029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174008
People watch shows that are well advertised, on a popular channel, or have heard good things about. Impact has none of these going for it. Neither did Lucha Underground.

It can be an awesome show, but that's only half the fight, you also have to figure out how to get it in front of people's eyeballs.
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Johnny C. - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:51:55 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6174055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174018
Its also better then smackdown, 205, nxt, roh and mlw every week but okay. I still enjoy those shows but Impact is the most fun for me every week.
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Makoto - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 20:33:15 EST ID:PpNm7R9B No.6174098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174029
Exactly. Impact's biggest weakness has always been promotion and marketing.
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Jackson James - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:27:14 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6174389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>During the PWTorch Livecast (via Wrestlezone.com), Mike Mcmahon and Andrew Soucek discussed the future of Impact Wrestling and how Impact is potentially looking to secure a new TV deal with another network. According to a source at Anthem Sports, Impact Wrestling is looking to get a spot back on primetime, but Pop TV was not looking to grant it to the promotion. Additionally, the source also claimed that Impact Wrestling is currently in talks with other networks, including TruTV, WGN, and SyFy.

>The report states that if Impact is unable to make the move to another network, the promotion will stay in its current late night time slot on Pop TV. The current Impact deal with Pop TV is set to expire at the end of this year (2018). Impact is currently expected to stay on Pop TV throughout the first part of next year.

>Also, Pop TV is reportedly looking into airing Aro Lucha. Some promos for Aro Lucha aired during Impact recently.
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JTG - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:37:33 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6174390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174389
Pop seemingly losing interest in Impact while looking to air fucking Aro Lucha (a show that taped their first set of TV almost a year ago and has had a whole 3 shows since) of all things is really something
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Jackson James - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:47:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6174395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174390
If AroLucha is running for free (or even paying to air) then it looks a lot more appealing than paying a million dollars for impact (thats according to pw torch)
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Vinnie Vegas - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:53:02 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6174396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174389
> SyFy
Owned by NBCUniversal, no chance in hell. The other two seem plausable, especially WGN considering they aired All In's pre show and expressed interest of doing the whole show.
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Tammy Jones - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 19:51:00 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6175181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6174390
Yeah it's kinda funny. POPTV seems pretty oblivious but I guess that's fair. A lot of television stations don't quite understand wrestling. I kind of look at this whole situation as more of a LOLPOPTV more than a LOLTNA. I'm sure Impact will find a new home. Whether it's a good station or not is another story but I'm okay with the level they are at now. If they get more popular that's cool too but that 10pm timeslot gotta go. It's exciting following the promotion right now cause I'm actually rooting for them to do well as opposed to being indifferent or wanting it to die.
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Shark Girl - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:23:42 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6175898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07LzlbtYbA0
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Tsukushi - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 19:53:44 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6176897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Cody Rhodes has confirmed his last match with Ring Of Honor before hitting free agency in January. Rhodes will take on ROH World Champion Jay Lethal at ROH “Final Battle” in New York on Friday, December 14th. ROH made the match official on Twitter

>Cody responded to the news on Twitter and noted that it’s fitting Lethal was his first match in ROH, and will now be his last. He also vowed to win the ROH World Title and take it with him into free agency:

>“Jay was the first match I had in ROH two years ago. He will be my last. And I will take the World Championship into free agency.”
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Gedo - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:10:35 EST ID:0vkB/Sdc No.6176909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6176897
>Cody responded to the news on Twitter and noted that it’s fitting Lethal was his first match in ROH, and will now be his last. He also vowed to win the ROH World Title and take it with him into free agency:

>“Jay was the first match I had in ROH two years ago. He will be my last. And I will take the World Championship into free agency.”

I dunno why the journo bothers paraphrasing something Cody said and then including the quote anyway, that is sub-high-school-essay
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Tsukushi - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:28:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6176927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Court Bauer is doing a Q & A on Twitter and addressed the Shane Strickland-to-NXT story

Earlier in the summer, there were reports that Shane signed a "long term" deal with MLW (https://411mania.com/wrestling/mlw-signs-shane-strickland-long-term-contract-moving-sign-talents/) but it sounds like he's just... walking away from the deal now. If talents keep doing that, I could see Court getting tougher with holding guys to these contracts like what ROH did with Cole & KOR

Also, he pretty much confirms that Darby Allin can't be on TV because of LOLGABE's EVOLVE contracts which are designed to basically to hold people until NXT takes them.
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Smash - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 13:12:55 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6177274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6176927
Wow fuck EVOLVE and fuck Gabe. That's some really shifty shit WWE pulled.
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Lacey - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 13:47:02 EST ID:ubiqPWjY No.6177290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6176927
Evolve is so fucking lame
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Tsukushi - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 13:59:08 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6177300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177290
>>6177274

That's how Gabe's contracts have always been like that. Konnan talked about how back when Lucha Undergound started up, he tried to get Ricochet AND Rich Swann, but Gabe wouldn't allow Rich to get out of his WWN contract.

The whole "its just a contract to make sure you don't jump to ROH" is a work, its been used to block talents from working ROH, Impact, Lucha Underground and MLW. The only company that Gabe will release you for is WWE.
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Tsukushi - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:15:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6177308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Important context
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Lacey - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:31:05 EST ID:ubiqPWjY No.6177315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177308
Aren’t most people watching on YouTube anyway? What’s the point of tuning in if I could just watch it whenever online?
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WrestlingTheSport - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:32:10 EST ID:skLY6+1t No.6177316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177308

Guessing that's why they put so much into getting episodes on YouTube. Their TV deal is miniscule, they probably have much bigger reach and even potential better advertising deals on YouTube.
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Michael Cole - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:38:11 EST ID:GXYvMNNU No.6177318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177315
The point is, the more people that watch on TV, the more advertising money they can get.

I mean, that shouldn't matter to us as fans, as long as they can stay afloat, but that's why people are asking.
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Tsukushi - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:49:56 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6177324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177318
>>6177316
>>6177315
BeIn Sports is paying them for Fusion.

>even potential better advertising deals on YouTube
LOL
BeIn Sports Right Fee pays better than Youtube Ad Revenue
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Jake The Snake Roberts - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:53:39 EST ID:31Ampg4a No.6177325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177300
I mean in 2015/2016 this wasn't really much of an issue and only really affected people wanting to go to ROH, considering how many people left without getting replaced it's more an issue of gabe not changing the contracts he offers to better represent the current state of possible work with so many companies being on TV rather than being inherently malicious.

Back then TNA wasn't worth going to in comparison and LU were being massive arseholes and having like 7 season contracts with no idea when they start or if the talent could get out of them
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Tsukushi - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 16:00:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6177365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177325
>I mean in 2015/2016 this wasn't really much of an issue
Gabe has been doing this longer than 2015

He's always talked about how he's just "protecting his investment" and "wouldn't get in the way of any opportunities for his talents" but he blocked everything, not just ROH. There's a reason the Young Bucks walked away from him.

>Back then TNA wasn't worth going to in comparison
TBF, Dixie was a money mark and throwing money at people. She got the Wolves, Moose, Mike & Maria because she was willing to outbid ROH.
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Lana Star - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:46:08 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6177578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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place your bets
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Byron Saxton - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:52:20 EST ID:s9GAaDkv No.6177583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177578

bought out by vince
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Rorschach - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:55:31 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6177586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177578
POPTV LOL
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Super Dragon - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:58:57 EST ID:EPjJkIsQ No.6177587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177578
MLW Gold
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Tadasuke - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:04:19 EST ID:62+B7o96 No.6177589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177578
something that completely fails to impress
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Michael Nakazawa - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:07:10 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6177591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why are people hating on MLW?
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Tadasuke - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:10:14 EST ID:62+B7o96 No.6177592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177591
I just don't think the announcement will be nearly historic, is all. MLW is good television.
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Super Dragon - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:11:22 EST ID:EPjJkIsQ No.6177594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177591
MLW's great. Hands down my favorite right now. But these "history making" announcements are always underwhelming, regardless of promotion. If we name all the silly shit now then when it comes out as something moderately interesting it might seem worth the tease.
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The Miz - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:30:26 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6177597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177592
this
I like MLW but "wrestling says the announcement is historic" rarely lives up to hype
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Rorschach - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:18:59 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6177826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6177591
Wow MLW fans are very defensive. Not even a glimpse of people shitting on MLW and they are already jumping on the sword. But yeah MLW is great and so is Impact. Impact is even better I would say but gets shit on way more. MLW is kinda fresh in a lot of peoples eyes but they often have pretty meh matches. The roster and the feuds need to be flushed out more imo.
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:50:46 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6178268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>EVOLVE announced that LAX (Santana & Ortiz) are coming to EVOLVE 117 on December 15th in Queens, NY and EVOLVE 118 on December 16th…

LAX of Santana & Ortiz are coming to EVOLVE 117 on December 15th in Queens, NY and EVOLVE 118 on December 16th in Deer Park, NY. They are on a collision course with EVOLVE tag team champions, The Street Profits, of Montez Ford & Angelo Dawkins. This is an explosive situation both in the ring and behind-the-scenes. EVOLVE officials are looking at options and will have match announcements early next week.

Ask questions
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Hector Garza - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:55:03 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6178272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178268
wew. I guess they're dissapearing into NXT purgatory for 2019
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Ivan Koloff - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:04:57 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6178283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so, i've been away for a while, can someone enlighten me on why roh, impact and mlw of all companies are lumped together in a general? last time i saw impact had his own general alone, couldn't roh and mlw get their own too? i don't know its not a complaint it just seems very weird
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:13:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6178296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178283
>OP "General discussion for Impact, ROH, and MLW since they're bigger than indie promotions owned by media companies that have national weekly television shows."
National non-WWE TV shows.
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Ivan Koloff - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:18:10 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6178302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6178296
uh

oh i see
i still find it weird

we're really gonna make a general out of everything arent we
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Jonny Fairplay - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:20:19 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6178304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178302
Everything but WWE
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Ivan Koloff - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:24:19 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6178308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6178304
shit i honestly dont see why we shouldnt

we have
>joshi general
>indie general
>social media general
>puro general
>bigger than indie promotions owned by media companies that have national weekly television shows general

and i'm sure there is at least one i have forgotten about

i wanna hear what the arguments from the mods are for not having a wwe general, genuinely curious
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Jonny Fairplay - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:26:40 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6178310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178308
The argument is usually "you can't have a general dedicated to just one promotion," which is also part of the reason why this was changed from just being an IMPACT general.

The real solution is lumping WWE & its feeder leagues together in one general, tbh.
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Ivan Koloff - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:29:35 EST ID:iVSK5WcY No.6178313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6178310
>"you can't have a general dedicated to just one promotion"
yeah thats because generals are fucking retarded and make it harder to have discussions on smaller subcategories of a subject or particular news

we still need that wwe general tho, and fucking put evolve in there too [\spoiler]
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Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 13:08:22 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6178352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6178268
oh god no, fuck evolve.
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Shawn Michaels - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:27:57 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6178429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178268
>Street Profits vs LAX

I mean it should be a great match
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Owen Hart - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:37:25 EST ID:P9yFgcd/ No.6178434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178429
That sounds like an urban wrestling federation match
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Paul Bearer - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:45:30 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6178437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178268
>LAX working with WWE's bitch
oh well it was a fun ride while it lasted
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Vladimir Kozlov - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:43:40 EST ID:gWmWN2jl No.6178469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178268
Oh no.
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Greg Gagne - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:48:36 EST ID:4fbjhvX1 No.6178527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178268
Ugh. So I'm guessing they didn't sign a new deal with Impact? Really hope they don't join NXT. They're one of the best teams around.
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YOSHIHIKO - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 21:22:14 EST ID:rGFq6Bhc No.6178610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178527
LAX are adults who can make their own decisions I doubt they give a fuck what people think
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David Otunga - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 21:29:44 EST ID:sCvQop6N No.6178611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178610

and that means we arent allowed to have an opinion about it or comment on it. thanks for keeping us in check.
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Lance Bravado - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 21:40:25 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6178613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178610
Calm down
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 21:40:31 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6178614 Report Quick Reply
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>>6178613
It always fucks with my self-esteem to be 23 and still be calm about it.
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tHURTeen - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 23:21:00 EST ID:PpNm7R9B No.6178635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178614
Real fucking shit, Netjester.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 06:49:58 EST ID:6VrC0Wv6 No.6178697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178614
The calm before the storm
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 07:18:17 EST ID:hw/cn7Zz No.6178700 Report Quick Reply
>>6178614
You just got to get throught it NJ; No one likes you when you're 23
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Mister Pogo - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 16:01:23 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6178936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Coming up next month, Major League Wrestling will be heading to Miami, Florida for two straight nights of Fusion television tapings with Never Say Never on December 13th and Zero Hour on the 14th.

>The main event for Never Say Never was recently announced as Pentagon Jr. and Rey Fenix are set to defend their MLW World Tag Team Titles against The Hart Foundation (check out the full announcement here). However, it looks like one of those participants is no longer planning on keeping his scheduled appearance.

>Just a couple of hours ago, Fenix took to Instagram to reveal he suffered a strained groin while competing for CMLL last night and will be cancelling all of his bookings for the remainder of 2018 in order to heal up. As of this time, MLW has yet to address what will become of the scheduled main event match at Never Say Never: https://www.instagram.com/p/BqkiNgzhNfu/
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Lance Bravado - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 16:03:56 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6178938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178936
Fuck
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Big Boss Man - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:11:20 EST ID:JPnpYcmh No.6178971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178936
I'm more surprised this wasn't Teddy related, but god damn that sucks.
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Invader - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:24:17 EST ID:YKEnLNzC No.6178976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178936
Well, hopefully they replace Fenix with someone like Jack Evans and we still get a fun as hell match.

Sucks for Fenix, though.
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Tomko - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:26:41 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6178980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178936
H I S G R O I N
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Pope D'Angelo Dinero - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:16:38 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6179033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6178936
>his groin

It's remarkable he didn't fuck up his neck or back.
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Blue Demon - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 14:46:27 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6179390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LAX better not go to fucking EVOLVE or NXT. At this point WWEs rosters are so bloated I don't see why anyone thinks they have a future in that shithole.

THat being said Impact has been cool with LAX working wherever they want so many it's a one off EVOLVE thing.
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Miyako Matsumoto - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 15:29:44 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6179427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6179390
>LAX better not go to fucking EVOLVE or NXT.

And what if they do? What are you gonna do about it
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Blue Demon - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 15:31:06 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6179430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6179427
Have an opinion. Like I do now.
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Rizokahn - Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:11:11 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6180007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ROH started posting a new doc series on their Youtube. It's done by Billy Corgan's company as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcbZU8VD3nY
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Zeus - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:11:03 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6180719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6176927
>>6178268

>just join the team bros
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Lucky Cannon - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:45:08 EST ID:nvb31/+n No.6180796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>No idea why guys go to WWE, how do they have a future?

>Get paid just as much as indies, stable, steady income.
>Safer matches, a few less bumps, don't have to try so hard to get over.
>Class room learning, perfect your craft you take serious.
>Can afford health insurance and pay off your debts.
>A good chance you can get over, work on a gimmick, and use it well.

It's so hilarious when shitty marks are like DONT GO TO WWE STAY ON THE INDIES!! I LOVE WHEN YOU HAVE TO PISS AND SHIT IN A BUCKET IN SOME YMCA 4 MILES FROM MY HOUSE WRESTLING IN FRONT OF 200 FANS!! WOO WOO
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Hector Garza - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:19:07 EST ID:YnNXypJn No.6180831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180796
You already did this shitty bait in another thread, go away nerd
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Kurrgan - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:26:38 EST ID:4fbjhvX1 No.6180835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180796
How much do you get paid to shill for a children's wrestling promotion faggot?
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123 Kid - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:09:22 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6180879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Via Pwinsider:

>Gabe Sapolsky just announced that Impact Wrestling has made the decision to pull LAX from their announced booking for EVOLVE in NYC on 12/15 and 12/16, where they were slated to work with WWE NXT talents in main event bouts.

https://twitter.com/BookItGabe/status/1067502075972648960
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Hector Garza - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:12:58 EST ID:YnNXypJn No.6180882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180879
Bless
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One Man Gang - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:16:13 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6180883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180879
Get fucked, gabe
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Super Dragon - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:24:50 EST ID:NMTDZEvr No.6180890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180879
lolgabe

but buried in this lede is the implication LAX might not be the supposed indy tag team in the next NXT signing class if they aren't free to work evolve (that or they're still leaving and impact is just being protective)
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Latin Lover - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:10:46 EST ID:ooxghLVe No.6180920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180879

Can see them getting pulled from the PROGRESS shows next month as well at this rate. It's crap because LAX are great and deserve all the bookings they can get but WWE have been using their proxies to get in with guys for far too long so something had to give.
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Zeus - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 17:44:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6180973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180920
FWIW, a few months back on MLW Radio, Konnan talked about how Garza Jr. was being texted by Canyon Ceman about getting out of his Impact contract WHILE AT an Impact taping

Court & he commiserated about how little they give a fuck about honoring other peoples' contracts (even after ROH had to threaten legal action over their conversations with Cole and KOR)
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Tiger Mask - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:16:19 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6180998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6180879
fuckin owned
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Drew Gulak - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:42:38 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6181166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dragón Lee AND DJZ debut for MLW this December in Miami
>Dragón Lee is coming to MLW. Considered by fans, the Mexican press and luchadores as one of if not the best high–flying luchador in the sport, the reigning CMLL World Lightweight Champion will make his Major League Wrestling debut in 2 weeks at MLW’s December double-shot events in Miami.

>Dizzying opponents with moves like the Dragon Driver, Operación Dragón and La Lanza, this técnico is the latest top ranked wrestler to enter MLW as part of the league’s 2019 roster reload, an initiative to give fans fresh and exciting big matches.

>One of Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre’s most popular luchadores, Dragón Lee fits MLW’s hybrid wrestling vision, being able to blend his fighting base of lucha with strong style, having competed extensively in New Japan Pro-Wrestling.

>Making a global splash for his celebrated rivalry with Kamaitachi, Dragón Lee would go on to win the masks of Kamaitachi and La Máscara before packed houses in Mexico City’s cathedral of lucha libre, Arena Mexico.

>The league will reveal his opponents this week exclusively at MLW.com.
***
>The middleweight division just got triggered. DJZ is heading to South Beach where he will make his Major League Wrestling debut December 13 and 14.

>Wrestler and Electronica DJ, the filipino free-styling pro wrestler is an accomplished middleweight having competed all over the world. From Japan to Mexico, where DJZ most recently competed for AAA, DJZ impresses fans with a one-of-a-kind illuminating experience.

>Employing moves such as the 630º senton, the Filipino Destroyer and the ZDT, opponents never know what to expect when they encounter DJZ’s rapid-fire offense.

>“DJZ has been everywhere and represents that MLW hybrid wrestling spirit we look for in our athletes,” said MLW CEO Court Bauer.

>MLW will be revealing his opponents for both nights in the coming days.
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Drew Gulak - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:19:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6181399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The decision to pull LAX from their EVOLVE dates was specifically based on Impact talent being in the ring with contracted WWE talent. (Credit: Pwinsider.com)

>Impact Wrestling is said to be in talks with three different networks for a 2019 television deal. The WON has confirmed that the company has been in talks with WGN America, Tru TV and SyFy as reported earlier in the month.
>At this time, there is no word on how far the negotiations have gone. The company’s current deal with Pop TV ends on December 31st, but reports have said the show will continue airing on Pop for the early part of 2019. The WON says that Impact’s run on Pop could continue through the first quarter of the year.
https://411mania.com/wrestling/impact-wrestling-reportedly-talks-three-networks-new-tv-deal/
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Vin Gerard - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:56:17 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6181418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181399
this is good news. I think it's wise at this point to cut WWE off. ROH, MLW, Impact need to work together more now then ever before instead of working with WWE shill companies.

it's clear impact and MLW want to work with others. ROH is the one still being a salty baby and it's only going to hurt them.
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:26:05 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6181834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Major League Wrestling is going live, PWInsider.com has confirmed.

>Multiple sources have confirmed that the promotion has come to terms with its cable network home, BeIN Sports, to broadcast a live special on Friday 12/14 at 8 PM. The decision to go live is part of a deepening relationship between MLW and BeIN Sports that also saw a Spanish language version of MLW: FUSION TV launched earlier this year. There are plans for additional live broadcasts in 2019, but as of this writing, we have not confirmed how often the live specials will take place. The 12/14 special will be branded MLW: FUSION LIVE.

>The MLW: FUSION LIVE special will emanate from Miami, Florida at the Scottish Rite Temple. Announced thus far for that event, which had been previously announced as a TV taping, is: MLW Champion Low Ki vs. Konnan in a No DQ Street Fight, a Ladder Match for the MLW Middleweight Championship, CMLL star Rush vs. Rich Swann, Tommy Dreamer vs. Brian Pillman Jr. in a Singapore Caning match, Teddy Hart vs. Pentagon Jr. and more. PWInsider.com has not confirmed which of those bouts will be airing on the 60-minute special.

>Next month’s event in Miami will be the first-ever live broadcast from the promotion, which debuted in April 2018 in BeIN Sports, taping episodes in Orlando, New York City, Chicago and Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The promotion will debut this February in Philadelphia at the 2300 Arena as well.

>This Friday's MLW TV episode on BeIN Sports will be headlined by Pentagon Jr. & Rey Fenix vs. LA Park & Hijo del LA Park. Next Friday 12/5 will be headlined by MLW Champion Low Ki vs. Shane Strickland. The promotion will then run their live special on 12/14.

>The scheduling of that live debut will place MLW head to head with the Ring of Honor Final Battle 2018 PPV in New York City.
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Chyna - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:32:55 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6181837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181834
that's neat
>The scheduling of that live debut will place MLW head to head with the Ring of Honor Final Battle 2018 PPV in New York City.
#shotsfired
I wonder what Rush at The Guys Opposite ROH might imply about CMLL's long-term interest in ROH
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Carlos Cabrera - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:43:59 EST ID:pbPM0zD6 No.6181843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181834
Why?
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:00:23 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6181854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6181837
It seems like the US is "neutral territory" for CMLL and I don't think they care that much about ROH. I can only see CMLL blocking Rush from working MLW if NJPW says something about strengthening the exclusive alliance between US-Mexico-Japan, but right now it seems like NJPW and CMLL use ROH primarily for "gaijin supplier" and ROH is the one who is on shaky ground to keep up their end of the bargain. ROH doesn't really know what to do with the CMLL talents they bring in except fill spots on the card. Its just another payday for the luchadors, so why not make some MLW money on the side while they're at it?

Konnan is the major power broker in all of this. He's basically the Mexican Paul Heyman at this point and he has his "guys" who trust him for creative advice.

He's back in AAA, but he's not the booker. To my knowledge, Vampiro is still in charge of creative. But they needed him to help mend fences with all the LU talent that bounced to The Crash.

AAA: needs him to get access to Penta & Fenix... and Taya, Jack Evans, Teddy Hart, and everyone else in Elite

Impact: needs him to put over their most successful, original Hispanic franchise: LAX. PLUS put over their AAA-lucha crossover content and sell to their Spanish-speaking audience.

MLW: he's the top producer now with Bruce Prichard getting kicked out. It's the space where he can try out all the things he was trying to do with AAA/LU/The Crash/AroLucha.

And on top of everything: he still has some kind of deal with AroLucha and whatever is going on with those episodes coming to Pop TV (Sounds like a GFW deal where they're finally going to air the pilot tapings in hopes of kickstarting more momentum)

Does ROH have anybody working behind the scenes who understands the lucha scene like him... or even speak Spanish?
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Chyna - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:09:24 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6181856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181843
If I'm reading it correctly there's two shows that night, MLW and ROH
the CMLL guy is at MLW and not ROH

just some spastic online wrassle nerd speculation, no bigs
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:03:09 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6181878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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from the most recent WO:
>LAX was pulled from the 12/15 and 12/16 Evolve shows. The basic gist is that IMPACT didn’t want its tag team champions working on a streaming show, that could end up on the WWE Network, losing to guys who are developmental talents (The Street Profits) that WWE isn’t using as one of its top tag teams. Also, IMPACT sees Evolve in its current form as a part of WWE.

>RE: new NXT UK contracts - one Impact contracted wrestler informed us that they were still able to work matches against WWE contracted wrestlers and were told that unlike ROH, New Japan and others, that Impact was not on the list of people the WWE U.K. talent couldn’t work matches with.

Can't help but wonder if part of those secret meetings earlier in the fall between WWE and Impact were to declare a ceasefire about this kind of stuff. And the EVOLVE deal is 100% LOLGABE for not clearing something with Impact.

It sounds like:
its not okay for Impact talents to work WWE talents on shows that might end up on the Network
...but its okay for Impact talents to work non-WWE talents on shows that might end up on the Network (the upcoming LAX vs CCK Match at PROGRESS)
...and it might be okay for Impact talents to work WWE talents on non-WWE / non-GWN shows
... and GWN will license footage to WWE for Network documentaries - for a price.

What's funny is Impact is doing a Wrestlemania weekend tour with Amazing Red's House of Glory + IPW UK (who has a show on Fight Network) + Toronto's DWW... and Fight Club Pro. There's going to be stuff filmed for Twitch, GWN and Fight Network, but I bet FCP is putting a wrench into all of that.
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Sarita - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:58:57 EST ID:aU0yZxEx No.6181897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181834
Love watching this fed grow. The first incarantion came and went without my noticing, but after getting into MLW podcasts and hearing the mentality of Court and the guys around him, I was hopeful when they did One Shot. Gotta watch on their YT channel because no cable, but I hope the switch to live pays off.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:12:24 EST ID:BS7nC+gg No.6181904 Report Quick Reply
>>6181834
That's cool that their first hour of TV being taped is gonna be live though it is going against ROH Final Battle. In any case, we'll try to stream it in /wooo/tube 2.

>>6181856
Though Rush is wrestling at ROH's TV tapings the night after Final Battle.
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Christopher Daniels - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 02:50:17 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6182256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181878
>Can't help but wonder if part of those secret meetings earlier in the fall between WWE and Impact were to declare a ceasefire about this kind of stuff. And the EVOLVE deal is 100% LOLGABE for not clearing something with Impact.


you could be onto something here.
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Lexie Fyfe - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:43:31 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.6182511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6181878
Evolve/WWN e-mailed the following about the issue:
>The Story Behind Impact Pulling LAX Off EVOLVE
>There's a lot going on. Let's get to it....

>-We are sorry to inform you that Impact Wrestling has pulled LAX off the upcoming EVOLVE dates. EVOLVE officials were contacted by LAX and informed that they were needed for something else that weekend. No other explanation was given. Impact Wrestling didn't contact EVOLVE officials and left it up to LAX. There is no heat on LAX as WWN understands the situation they were put in. EVOLVE officials had told LAX that the plan was to have matches with EVOLVE Tag Team Champions The Street Profits of Montez Ford & Angelo Dawkins that weekend. EVOLVE was informed that LAX would not be able to lose in those matches. In order to avoid any political issues, EVOLVE made one night a triple threat match and the other night a six man tag. This would give the fans the LAX vs. Street Profits matches they wanted, while protecting all parties politically. Unfortunately, Impact Wrestling waited until the matches were announced and then pulled the talent the next day. This all could have easily been avoided by not allowing LAX to take the dates in the first place. EVOLVE will no longer consider booking Impact Wrestling contracted talent moving forward. EVOLVE officials are currently working on a replacement and will have news early next week. We apologize for the lineup change, but assure you that EVOLVE will produce something special on for EVOLVE 117 December 15th in Queens, NY and EVOLVE 118 on December 16th in Deer Park, NY. Thank you for your support.
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Tara - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:18:48 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6182520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182511
>Gabe trying to make Impact look like the heels in this situation

classic LOLGABE
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Rizokahn - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:53:02 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6182526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6182511
>Gabe trying to politic his way out of this
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Tina Ferrari - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:04:44 EST ID:hj11i0MX No.6182561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182511

Could he suck Trips' dick any harder?
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C. Red - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:07:21 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6182563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182511
Any company that can keep guys from working places and still lets a WWE poacher like Gabe use their talent is brain dead at this point
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StarBuck - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:23:44 EST ID:J5n82lH3 No.6182570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182511
LOLTNA

>i-i-it's good now, we promise, give us another chance

#FuckThatOwl
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Trevor Murdoch - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:26:04 EST ID:9PpOH2E3 No.6182571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182561
not sure, but id bet you he'd try and find out for a NXT writers position
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:33:20 EST ID:4ANnq4Xq No.6182578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182571
Gabe has to realise like the slimy politician that sides with the aliens and sells out the humans after wwe gets what they want from him they're still gonna kill him they're not gonna let him be the one remaining human they have helping run their human slave farms. They might be cute and do the scene from good fellas where tommy thinks he's gonna be a made man but they kill him.
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Amasis - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:41:26 EST ID:7Ro8S9jb No.6182585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182571
It's been heavily rumored he's been booking 205 live or at least helping
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Vito Thomaselli - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:11:03 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6182607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ask questions.
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Vito Thomaselli - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 11:36:32 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6182822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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?!?!?!?!
get fucked MLW and GCW lol

>PWInsider reports that former WWF and WCW Superstar Pierre Carl Ouelett has signed a “full-time, exclusive contract” with Ring of Honor (ROH), and he’s said to be starting with the promotion immediately. At age 50, this is reportedly his first contract in wrestling since his run in WCW teaming up with Jacques Rougeau.

>Ouelett is said to have signed wit ROH in the last several days. Also, he’s reportedly finished up with Major League Wrestling, were he has been appearing over the course of the last year.

>Ouelett held the WWE tag team titles on tree occasions. He was also briefly the WCW hardcore campion.

>The recent ROH TV episodes featured a heartbeat monitor, and it’s expected that will lead to the announcement of him coming to the promotion.
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Vito Thomaselli - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 11:39:10 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6182825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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and get fucked nxt lol
>As Ring of Honor heads into Final Battle in a few weeks, there has been a lot of speculation about the future of talents who’s deals are expiring at the end of the year as well as new talents expected to be heading into the company.

>The fate of former ROH TV Champion Silas Young, however, has been determined.

>In an exclusive interview with PWInsider.com this afternoon, Young confirmed that he will be remaining with Ring of Honor.

>“There’s been a lot of news going around,” Young said. “A lot of rumors and whatnot about my future here in wrestling. My contract here with Ring of Honor expires at the end of this year, 2018. Like I said, there’s a lot of rumors about WWE. I’ even had people coming up to me months ago saying, ‘Hey I hear you are leaving to WWE. I hear you are leaving.’ It’s always great from my perspective or any of the wrestling talents’ perspective to have there be interest in you, you know? In saying that, it’s good to have people talking about you when it comes to contract time. I think anyone can figure out why. With all that being said, I have decided that after five years with Ring of Honor, five years of them investing in me, I have decided I’m going to sign a three-year contract with them.”

>Young, 39 years-old and ROH have come to terms on a new three-year deal that will keep him with the company at least through January 2022.

>“The wrestling scene now is super-hot right now and I’m a big believer in loyalty. Ring of Honor gave me an opportunity five-six years back and every opportunity I’ve been given since, I’ve succeeded with. I’m the type of guy that likes to stick with the team that brought me to the table, to stick with the team that believed in me from the get-go. I’m really happy to announce I am staying with Ring of Honor.”

>There had been rampant speculation that Young was heading for WWE NXT when his current ROH deal expired at the end of the year. It was had to have been a consideration.

>“To be quite honest with you, “ Young explained, “The idea of WWE for every guy is a dream for everybody who’s ever wrestled or starts wrestling, they have that dream. I won’t lie, it was my dream. It was my goal, but at some point, as you grow and you mature as a person, the wrestler realizes that that top of the mountain, the peak, isn’t always the top of the mountain or it’s not that shiny. I’m really happy with the decision I’ve made.”

>Young noted in his interview with PWInsider.com that a big part of the decision was that he has a ten-year-old son and the Ring of Honor schedule allows him to have a good deal of time off to devote to his son and family. Young also owns a home in Wisconsin, something he would have had to potentially given up to move to Florida just to explore how things may have worked out once he was in the WWE NXT system.

>With his ROH future set in stone as soon as Young prints out and returns his new contract, he will be in NYC and Philadelphia for Final Battle weekend and from there, his tenure with Ring of Honor continues.
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C. Red - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 11:47:04 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6182830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182822
well that's fuckin gross
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 11:48:19 EST ID:hw/cn7Zz No.6182831 Report Quick Reply
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>>6182822
>There's a bidding war for Pierre Carl Ouelett in 2018

2017 me is dumbfounded
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Crowbar - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 11:49:51 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6182833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182822
I have a canadian buddy who'll probably mark the fuck out for the idea that somebody said "shit we need that guy exclusive"
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Vito Thomaselli - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 12:50:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6182845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>MLW are selling Holiday combo tickets for their events on December 13-14 in Miami, including the live broadcast on BeIn Sports on the 14th (running against Final Battle). The lineups include:
>12/13 Never Say Never –
>Pentagon Jr. vs. Teddy Hart
(replacing the Lucha Bros vs Hart Foundation match while Fenix is hurt)
>Falls Count Anywhere in Miami: LA Park vs. PCO
(I guess this is PCO's last match)
>No Holds Barred Fight: Tom Lawlor vs. Simon Gotch
>Rush vs. Shane “Swerve” Strickland
(Strickland's exit/jump to NXT is currently complicated)
>Dragón Lee vs. Rich Swann

>12/14 Zero Hour:
>No DQ: MLW Champion Low Ki vs. Konnan
>Singapore Cane Match: Tommy Dreamer vs. Brian Pillman Jr.
>Ladder Match for the World Middleweight Champion MJF vs. Dezmond Xavier vs. Kotto Brazil vs. Andrew Everett vs. Jason Cade.
>If MJF is not cleared, bout will determine new Champion.
>Rush vs. Rich Swann

DJ Z is supposed to be on these shows too

>MLW said that Tom Lawlor’s status for the Miami TV tapings is “day to day” after he broke his hand at an MMA event and needed stitches for cuts under his eyes

No. 1 Contender is hurt, tag champ is hurt, Middleweight champ is hurt.
Was using Joey Ryan and Joey Janela until they got hurt
PCO and Shane Strickland are leaving.
Rough month.

>Fred Yehi will be back soon after touring Europe.

>The first 2019 event for MLW will be their debut at the 2300 Arena in Philadelphia.

>Low Ki is set to defend the MLW title in Perth, Australia against Jonah Rock for Perth Wrestling.
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Lince Dorado - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:09:05 EST ID:tFqp8dwB No.6182874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who would have thought that fucking one half of the Quebecers would be one of the hottest commodities on the independents.
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:12:57 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6182878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Jeff Cobb
>Brody King
>PCO

Suddenly ROH has an amazing foundation to build on again.
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Mentallo - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:20:30 EST ID:ECPVV2LS No.6182884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182878
They got Brody King?
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:22:11 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6182885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182884

It's not official yet, but there are a ton of rumors that he's headed to ROH and maybe even NJPW.
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Rayna Von Tash - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 15:14:52 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6182899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182570
go watch 9 hours of baby television on monday
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Vito Thomaselli - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 16:12:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6182923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182825
>>6182822
the ROH - MLW war is real:

> Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter adds that ROH has also signed Brody King and taking two notable commodities off the independent scene.

>King is 31-years old and was trained at the Santino Brothers Training School out of Los Angeles, California. He made his debut in 2015 and made a name for himself across the independent map. King is the current AAW champion and is scheduled for their December 8th “Last Call” event next Saturday, December 8th and the Windy City Classic XIV show on December 29th. Like PCO, King had also been working for MLW.
https://www.postwrestling.com/2018/12/01/ring-of-honor-signs-pco-and-brody-king-per-reports/
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Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 16:33:13 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6182929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>PCO in ROH
...I'm sad that this takes him off the indies, but stoked that we still got PCO vs WALTER before then. (Also if anyone has the screencap of PCO's torn-up chest from that match, the "2018 in images" thread would be the perfect place to put that.)
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Rayna Von Tash - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 16:46:33 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6182935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182923
I mean I understand PCOs choice to do that but I generally just wish ROH would work with other promotions more like impact and MLW do. ROH being all exclusive doesn't really help the wrestling climate when WWE has its hands in everyone's pockets.
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Muscle Sakai - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 17:18:54 EST ID:YnNXypJn No.6182945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BUT WHAT BECOMES OF D. DESTRO
>lift eeeeeeeeeet
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Mustafa Said - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 17:24:02 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6182948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182923
>He made his debut in 2015
Shit, he was like 28 when he first started wrestling
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Dasher Hatfield - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 17:42:49 EST ID:RhINgNKW No.6182954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6182845
>No DQ: MLW Champion Low Ki vs. Konnan
This is going to be such a shitshow I can't wait.
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Dick Murdoch - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:04:42 EST ID:aY7hzQV3 No.6182980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PCO vs ISHII when?
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Justice - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:14:28 EST ID:rTDg3+vc No.6182983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182980
I need this match
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Hydra - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:20:07 EST ID:30YOe064 No.6182986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6182980
>PCO vs MiSu
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Vader - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:34:39 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6182991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182980
>PCO vs Bully Ray
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Reno - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:39:15 EST ID:i7KfAH6c No.6182996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182980
>PCO vs Rush
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Verne Gagne - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 20:09:42 EST ID:LISzWFMW No.6183008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope PCO gets a world title run, even if just a brief one.
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Bully Ray - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:57:20 EST ID:0mv58x13 No.6183042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We are one step closer to PCO vs EVIL and I for one could not be happier.
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Randy Orton - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 23:34:10 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6183068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182980
>PCO vs >Matt Taven
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Ortvatistadon - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 00:41:55 EST ID:sUDN3TGL No.6183080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183068
>Matt Taven gets killed by PCO
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Rikidozan - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 01:36:26 EST ID:rWWSIM8P No.6183090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182923
>BRODY KING NO LONGER SHITTING UP EVERY FUCKING INDIE
THANK YOU BASED ROH
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Reno - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 03:02:41 EST ID:i7KfAH6c No.6183103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183090
>Brody King va Rhett Titus
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Pat Patterson - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 08:14:36 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6183148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182607
stop teasing us Jericho.
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C. Red - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:10:23 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6183298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope ROH puts the strap on PCO, I'm fucking tired of boring ass Jay Lethal.
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WrestlingTheSport - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:14:33 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6183300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183298

I feel like Jay Lethal should really be a bigger deal than he is seen as. 2nd longest reigning ROH champ ever, held both TV and World Titles concurrently, usually has very good matches and with the right opponent can have amazing matches...

But he's booked as just another guy. ROH put so much effort into the past few years being Bullet Club-o-Rama-Palooza that Lethal is a complete afterthought.
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Ultimate Spider Jr. - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:48:11 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183300
ROH hasn't booked anyone well in years. The entire company comes off as an after thought. NJPW built Bullet Club. All In made Lethal look like a star. Being The ELite(love it or hate it) put effort into building stories for their characters.

ROH doesn't do enough for their talent and it shows horribly. Its not compelling television and that's a shame.
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Machete - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:59:35 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6183314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As horribly as they've dropped the ball on Lethal, it's nothing compared with what they've done (or haven't) with Dalton Castle.

ROH is where people go get some buzz and then move on to be stars somewhere else and it's sad.
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Rizokahn - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 18:25:10 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6183325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183314
To be fair, ROH didn't dropped the ball on Dalton as much as he's been injured before and during his reign.

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/dalton-castle-reveals-he-has-been-wrestling-broken-back-past-two-years
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Pinkie Sanchez - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 18:50:14 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6183330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183314

That’s what it always was. Kind of like a new ECW.
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Ultimate Spider Jr. - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 18:56:36 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183330
ECW had stories and captivating shows. ROH has random matches for no reason that build to nothing. It used to be good in the mid 2000s though,
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Pinkie Sanchez - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 18:57:52 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6183332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183331

I meant that it’s just a place for guys coming up who get over and leave to become stars.
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Molly Holly - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 19:06:16 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183332
Ah, true. I still don't know about that though. CM Punk, Brian Danielson and Samoa Joe were pretty big deals even before WWE. ECW managed to make stars out of dipshits like Sandman. I do think current ROH is definitely just a place to get your name out there and maybe go to New Japan or NXT though.
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Giant Bernard - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 21:18:34 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6183386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6168558
Impact & SMASH on Twitch in February. Neat.
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 21:28:56 EST ID:pnVcTPHu No.6183388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6182923
I don’t want to sound in favor of every wrestler going there, but King is too tall not to get an offer from the E. This is just a stop gap to get his name out there
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 00:57:49 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6183443 Report Quick Reply
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This could be great
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WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 01:25:55 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6183452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183443

Wait, is Tracy Williams in ROH now? I thought it was a one-off at SotF.

If they've signed him, that's another really good pickup for ROH.
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Eddie Edwards - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 07:51:19 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6183488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Impact's twitch broke (LOLTNA)
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 10:11:15 EST ID:M6YIFGTd No.6183516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beef, it's what's for dinner
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Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 10:14:28 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6183520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183516
B I G
B O I
S E A S O N
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Athena - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 11:11:22 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6183559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183516
I feel like MLW is the last fed left outside of Japan still doing straight up carny freakshow wrestling shit like bringing in these h u g e b o i s.
I dig it. It's a throwback to the old days, we need more of it.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 12:30:33 EST ID:fNJwz0tE No.6183605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183452
Well he's not working for EVOLVE anymore so that's the assumption.
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Dean Malenko - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 12:35:55 EST ID:q+rkA3WR No.6183608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183516
Damn MLW is the best Fed rn ain’t it?
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WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 12:39:03 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6183610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183559

It's what makes MLW so fun, it embraces all these types of wrestlers and results in one of the most diverse and entertaining rosters out there right now.

Like, Barrington isn't any good in the ring, but he's got such a unique look and so much charisma you can't help but love him. And Ace Romero is pretty hot right now, and for a guy his size moves really well. It's gonna be a spectacle of a match, which is exactly what wrestling should be about.
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Rizokahn - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 16:44:48 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6183728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Second episode of ROH's The Pinnacle is now up.
https://youtu.be/TM9VfqUhD0o
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 17:26:00 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6183753 Report Quick Reply
Looks like Impact will also be doing a live show next Friday night - https://twitter.com/RockstarProWres/status/1068969860653301760
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Molly Holly - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:02:05 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183488
Pretty sure every twitch breaks sometimes but okay.
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Molly Holly - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:02:53 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183610
so does impact. It's great.
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Molly Holly - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:23:31 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183728
that's pretty cringey right off the bat. ngl.
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Apolo - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 20:11:58 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6183830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>POP’s IMPACT WRESTLING was at 0.03/122K.

Impact's viewership ages 18-49 has been at a 0.05 for a long time. Then it started slipping to 0.04. Last week hit a low 0.03 .
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Nick Jackson - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 20:22:52 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6183839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6183830
Considering the time slot change it's really not shocking.
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Al Wilson - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 11:41:40 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6184129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/1069992288728834048

Rush vs TK O'MyLeg, get hype
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Jeremy Borash - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:38:15 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6184462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ricochet 2.0

>An update on Shane Strickland.

>Mike Johnson of PWInsider reports that Shane Strickland's Lucha Underground contract may prevent him from signing with WWE in January. PWInsider had previously reported that Strickland would be finishing up with MLW in December and head to WWE the following month. Strickland was expected to be part of the new Performance Center recruits in January.

>Lucha Underground just finished their fourth season on El Rey. There is no word on when, or if, the promotion will return to the network. Strickland worked under the name Killshot and lost a mask vs. mask bout against Son of Havoc at Ultima Lucha Cuatro. Following the bout, he was "relieved from duty."

>While he waits for his LU contract to be resolved, Strickland will continue to work for MLW. He is scheduled to be part of their Dec. 13 and 14 tapings in Miami. He is also being advertised for MLW's Superfight tapings in Philadelphia on Feb. 2. On a recent edition of MLW Fusion, Strickland, in storyline, expressed his frustration with Court Bauer and MLW.
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:42:42 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6184464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6184462

LU contracts are weird. "You get to work the one taping we do every 14 months, no house shows and you don't get merch, and you can't sign with any other company for the next 37 years."
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:50:27 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6184470 Report Quick Reply
Court Bauer said in a podcast interview that MLW Fusion is moving to Saturday nights in 2019.

>>6184129
Also Juice Robinson vs. PJ Black
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 23:49:45 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6184486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6184462
he should work this into a gimmick about wanting to be a sellout faggot but being limited by contracts
because seriously now that he's outed himself as a wannabe sellout faggot he's kinda stuck
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Torrie Wilson - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 23:58:27 EST ID:yVA+h7aW No.6184488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6184486
Why is he a sellout faggot?
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Rorschach - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 01:46:45 EST ID:sUDN3TGL No.6184516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6184464
They're not wrestling contracts they're TV contracts.
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Bushwhacker Luke - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:12:15 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6184768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LAX have now held the tag titles longer then anyone
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 18:37:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6184978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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LOLTNA
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 18:43:09 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6184982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6173967
>>6182845
FUCK. So much for one last PCO -LA Park match
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Candice Michelle - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 18:54:06 EST ID:0POyVjyZ No.6184989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6184978
>the state of that Dezmond Xavier render
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Mima Shimoda - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 20:13:26 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6185025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6184978
I don't get what's LOLTNA about this MLW match
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DJ Hyde - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 07:24:49 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6185181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so Impact uploaded this top 5 video and there's some hint at the 5:05 mark.
https://youtu.be/9m68iwRV-vg?t=304

Also listen to the Court Bauer WOR from earlier this week, it's really an interesting conversation and this new guy asked great questions. Court says his idea for MLW is to have this international flavor and that latino fanbase is a huge part of it's demographics. It's a good listen.
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Justin Gabriel - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 07:31:26 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6185185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6185181
Garrett Gonzales is great. He needs his own weekly show.
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Jeff Hardy - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:18:50 EST ID:c/sk6+n1 No.6185278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6185185
I'll second that thought. Dave and Garrett episodes are super comfy. I don't even watch boxing and it was nice to hear them talk about it. Unfortunately, once Bryan finishes his new book it will go back to him and Dave, and I doubt Garrett is getting his own show.
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Typhoon - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 13:06:28 EST ID:TqEFPXZt No.6185367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Impact, ROH and MLW all looking comfy af going forward, fam. Very excited for the future.
>>6185025
Probably the same dweeb that was spouting LOLTNA earlier in the thread when the Impact twitch was down. Just let these people be, brother. They're not wrestling fans, they're WWE fans.
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Daizee Haze - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:38:35 EST ID:zOolwrxK No.6185423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6185185
Scrolling down quickly I read this as "Giant Gonzales..."

I was about to agree.
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Eve - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 12:54:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6186187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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MLW:
>Major League Wrestling has announced its lineup for the upcoming live broadcast for MLW: Fusion for next Friday, December 14. The event will be held in Miami, Florida and will be broadcast live on the BeIN Sports Network.
> Dragon Lee vs. DJZ.
> Rush vs. Rich Swann.
> Kotto Brazil vs. Dezmond Xavier vs. Andrew Everett vs. Jason Cade to crown the new The Middleweight Champion in a Four Way Ladder Match.

>According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Rush is figured to be heavily pushed in MLW after how big he got over in Chicago, possibly as the franchise star, Dragon Lee is also scheduled to be featured prominently. MLW plans to do most tapings on Saturdays so that the CMLL stars will be available on Fridays at Arena Mexico. CMLL will still be Rush & Dragon Lee’s priority, but it appears MLW will be their US home. This is an interesting situation considering the ROH/CMLL/NJPW working relationship.

ROH:
>In a post on Facebook, the Beer City Bruiser, promised exciting news for 2019.
“Excited to share what I have in store for 2019 after my contract expires Dec. 31.”
>It’s unknown what it could mean, as he could be leaving ROH or continuing to work on a nightly basis.
>There were reports earlier this year that WWE was interested in him.
lmao

>Ring of Honor has hired former WWE creative team member Kevin Eck full time. He previously worked on material for their website and other things on a part-time basis.

>PCO Withdraws From Tonight’s House of Hardcore Main Event
>Previously, PCO was scheduled to take on Tommy Dreamer for the main event of tonight’s House of Hardcore event. PCO announced the news yesterday on his Twitter account:
PCO Unable to Make it @HouseofHardcore this Saturday,Sorry for my fans & @THETOMMYDREAMER Please believe me , I’ve always been very professional in this business, reliable and Trustworthy,Contractual reasons and other things out of my control are the only reasons for this matter!

>PCW Ultra Results 12.07.18: Sami Callihan defeated Brody King in King’s last appearance here before heading to Ring of Honor. Post-match King bid a fond farewell to the locals, PCW and thanked the Santino Bros Training Camp.

IMPACT:
>Impact Wrestling saw a bump in the ratings this week, while the viewership was down from last week. Thursday’s episode brought in a 0.04 rating in the 18 -49 demographic and 116,000 viewers, up a tick and down 5% respectively from last week’s 0.03 demo ratring and 122,000 viewers. The rating was the best since the November 8th episode had a 0.05; meanwhile, the audience rating was the lowest since the November 15th episode had 101,000 viewers.
>Impact ranked #150 among cable originals for the night per Showbuzz Daily.

>Eli Drake spoke on the latest Impact Wrestling media call about Impact’s TV deal and the idea of streaming options for the company:
>On the balance between TV and streaming online:
“I think right now a hybrid is probably the best approach. I feel like TV is kinda losing a little bit of its luster because everybody is so into streaming. I think finding a streaming partner would be great, while also having TV. At the end of the day, TV is still king. Will that hold over for much longer? I don’t know. As far as advertisers and what not, there is money in streaming but there’s also still a lot of money in TV.”

>On the need for terrestrial television still:
“I think TV is still important to reach out to different sections of the audience. But I think also moving forward, streaming and the internet are valuable and making our footprint there is necessary.”

>On re-signing with Impact:
“I know a lot of people were tolling the death knell for me as far as my stay at Impact. At times I even thought I was going to move on as I had other offers. I did an audit of my life at the time. I enjoy where I’m living. I enjoy the money I’m making. I’m living comfortably. I was like, ‘why change anything right now?’ If I decide in the next year or so to change anything, of course I still have that option. But for now, it’s ‘let’s step back and look at my life. Do I like it?’ Yes, so I’m not going anywhere.”
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Dr. Cube - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 13:05:45 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6186189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186187
cute monke
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Droz - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 13:07:15 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6186190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186187
Hey if a guy like Beer City Bruiser can find a way to get some WWE money then good on him tbh
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Bobby The Brain Heenan - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:26:31 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6186254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186187
YAY MLW, ROH AND IMPACT!

This is all good news. Glad to see a bump in the ratings for impact and that Eli Drake is smart enough to see the pros of turning down WWE in 2018. <3 :3

All this good wrestling just right here in front of us and none of it is tied with WWE. Wrestling still lives. More people need to support these companies.
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Domino - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:42:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6186853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>To celebrate 2 million subscribers we'll be Premiering 3 FULL SHOWS for free next week on YouTube!

>Monday at 6pm ET - The first ever NWA-TNA PPV

>Wednesday at 6pm ET - The December 20th, 2007 IMPACT
The infamous 2007 Christmas themed episode of Impact!

>Friday at 6pm ET - Bound For Glory 2012

>Our way of saying thank you!
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Cliff Compton - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:57:06 EST ID:fRkxX2q7 No.6186863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186853
I always forget how fucking hot Karen is
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Rizokahn - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 13:37:31 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6186937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Episode 3 of The Pinnacle. This one is a recap of Bully Ray/Flip Gordon along with Ray cutting a promo. Pretty good video package. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKItHjF_67E
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Domino - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:50:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6186948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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LOL
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Jay Briscoe - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 15:00:15 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6186949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186948
>MLW pays to fly these guys in, just so they can negotiate with WWE
Bauer can at least tag @WWE, or someone from talent relations on this, no?
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Mister ZERO - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 15:05:26 EST ID:lY5Th+xU No.6186950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186949
You think WWE will do anything? This is exactly what they wanted.
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Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 15:05:40 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6186951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186949
If anything, WWE probably appreciates those guys blowing off the indies.
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DJ Hyde - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 15:38:29 EST ID:7Ro8S9jb No.6186974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186949
of course brother, He should have tagged Vince McMahon in that tweet and I'm sure he would have got a response
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El Zorro - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 02:21:05 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6187295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186948
This is why it's now us vs them. Fuck WWE and fuck their fans and fuck the wrestlers who do business with them.
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Johnny C. - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:11:05 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6188626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so, Josh announced last Impact that Allie will fight against Kiera Hogan at homecoming. Also, Eddie vs Moose is a falls count anywhere match. I hope they add an eight bout feauting the Rascalz.
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Kaz Hayashi - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:21:19 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6188633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6188626
MOOSE
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 10:32:10 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.6188972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's the results from MLW Never Say Never and Zero Hour:

https://www.sescoops.com/mlw-never-say-never-results-12-13/
http://thechairshot.com/2018/12/mlw-news-mlw-zero-hour-live-results-plus-spoilers-12-14-18/

Also The Hart Foundation is getting its own webseries on Youtube - https://mlw.com/2018/12/13/hart-foundation-to-produce-digital-series/
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Bull Buchanan - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 12:07:23 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6189016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quick question

Does ROH or MLW prevent guys from working other indies? If so, where?

I was always under the impression that ROH does. Not sure about MLW.
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Test - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 12:35:09 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6189022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the ROH - MLW War is real

guessing it was Rush & Dragon Lee
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Test - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:36:45 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6189039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189022
>With MLW going live tonight and ROH running their Final Battle Pay-Per-View, the battle for talent across all promotions continues.

>This week, ROH was attempting to get Pentagon and Fenix to show up to Final Battle and work full time with them under exclusive US contracts, essentially wanting to leave MLW and Impact and work with ROH full-time. We can confirm that the duo declined the offer.

>Pentagon is, we can confirm, scheduled to compete at Defy Wrestling tonight in Seattle. This is the only beginning of the talent war that will be second to none than any other we have ever seen before within the next 30 days.
https://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/roh/wnw-excluisve-details-on-roh-trying-to-sign-mlw-talent
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:58:30 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6189046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189039

Pentagon actually called DEFY "my new home" last night, although I imagine he just means he'll be showing up more. Really, he and Fenix have no reason to sign exclusive contracts right now, they're such hot commodities they can probably get more money by working all over.
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Ivan Putski - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:58:57 EST ID:0g8+IxW/ No.6189048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189039
>This is the only beginning of the talent war that will be second to none than any other we have ever seen before
1) That's a shit sentence.
2) That's also a completely idiotic sentence written by someone who doesn't even remember the 90s.
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 14:12:15 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6189053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189039
lolROH how in the actual fuck do they think they'd get Lucha Bros to go exclusive with THEM of all promotions
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David Flair - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 14:13:09 EST ID:qmZNblh4 No.6189054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189022
Court comes off like a whiny bitch tbh, stop airing the dirty laundry and work it out in private like adults.
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Curry Man - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:51:14 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6189092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189039
Fuck you ROH. The Lucha Bros. shouldn't be exclusive to anyone.

Also, wouldn't the LU contracts prevent that?
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 15:56:58 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6189093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6186863
I was just going to ask who the semen demon was, thanks.
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Rizokahn - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:02:36 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6189094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189039
Shitty move on ROH's part. They should be working in tandem with other promotions since WWE is gonna fuck everyone over in a couple of months.
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Jinder Mahal - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:48:32 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6189110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189094
ROH is just as grossly corporate as WWE they just don't have as much money
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Balls Mahoney - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:55:09 EST ID:3ayx20MU No.6189111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6187295
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Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:57:34 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6189112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189094
ROH is owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group. ROH is corporate now.
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Teddy Hart - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:25:30 EST ID:qe5bDGs+ No.6189126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sinclair is a significantly worse company than WWE on a grander scale.
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Test - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:51:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6189128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Last night’s ROH Final Battle PPV was completely sold out. We had reports from those who were there that tickets were selling outside for double and triple the original retail value. The show is available for replay buys for Honorclub subscribers as well as on Fite.TV.

>The original plan for the Ladder War last night was for it to run 40 minutes. The match was cut to about 25 minutes right as they were going to the ring. The irony there is that ROH added a fourth hour to the show to ensure that they had enough time for everything as there has been an ongoing issue with the undercard going long, which leads to main event times being cut.

>The four-hour PPV window is not, as of this writing, a permanent change.

>There were no major injuries last night, which is amazing considering some of the bumps that took place last night. There were just the usual bumps and bruises.

>Dave Lagana was at the event and was running around filming footage all night for future editions of the Pinnacle digital series, so the NWA’s relationship with ROH is continuing.

>The word backstage last night was that British talent Mark Haskins has officially signed with the company and is coming in.

>If she hasn’t already, it is expected that new Women of Honor Champion Kelly Klein will be signing a contract here.

>There was no announced return to the Hammerstein Ballroom last night. The promotion’s next date in NYC is obviously the G1 Supercard at Madison Square Garden. The number one question I was asked last night by fans was whether there would be additional dates at MSG. I know for a fact that MSG is open for it, but I don’t believe there is anything on the table currently.

>Tonight’s TV taping will be the final scheduled appearances for The Young Bucks, SCU, Adam Page and Cody. The word last night is The Elite will be working an eight-man tag tonight. There was a MASSIVE line for the Bucks’ signing last night before the PPV.

>There should be some new names debuting at the taping tonight. We are told the company has an eye on some additional international talents.

>Atlas Security’s Ronnie Lang and Joe were in attendance last night.

>Prince Nana worked backstage in the locker room last night.

>Former ROH and TNA talent Becky Bayless aka Cookie was backstage visiting last night.

>Add LSG to the list of those with a deal expiring at the end of the year.

>NWA Champion Nick Aldis will be defending the title against Billy Gunn this weekend in Puerto Rico.

>Tenille Dashwood is in Philadelphia and will be signing before tonight’s TV taping.
pwinsider
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Bull Buchanan - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:53:57 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6189129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6187295

More people need this mentality. Especially promoters and wrestlers. Unfortunately, fans thinking this way won't change anything.
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Hydra - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:04:54 EST ID:0mv58x13 No.6189192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189128

>Haskins getting signed by ROH

I'm just glad someone has finally offered that man a contract, seeing most of the big British guys being signed and him just kinda being overlooked was a shame.
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:08:20 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6189193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189192

While we're talking about him, what was the deal with him supposedly retiring a few years ago? I remember there being a big story about him stopping wrestling, but then a year later he returned and was better than ever.
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Hydra - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:59:49 EST ID:0mv58x13 No.6189202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189193

My understanding is that he was having neck issues and got a bad opinion from a doctor about the state it was in. Think it really spooked him hence the "retirement". Apparently got a second opinion which gave him the all clear.
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Larry Sweeney - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 21:00:09 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6189203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You guys hear about that new ROH faction?
https://twitter.com/davemuscarella/status/1074115740104581123?s=21
Also are Dragon Lee and Rush still in MLW it did they swap?
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Rizokahn - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 21:15:31 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6189206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189203
Lee and Rush are CMLL guys, so they can work for whoever as long as it doesn't interfere with their commitments in Mexico.
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Husky Harris - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 22:12:53 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.6189222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189203
>marty and pco
well shit roh might be onto some kino here

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 16-12-2018 08:27:06
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Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 22:24:11 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6189229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189203
>Villain Enterprises
I like it.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 16-12-2018 08:27:17
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Rizokahn - Sat, 15 Dec 2018 22:27:54 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6189232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In other ROH news, The Monster Factory looks to be ROH's new developmental territory. They also ran a show tonight where Coast 2 Coast won the MFPW tag belts.

https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/danny-cage-signs-roh-dojo-future-honor-events-announced

TV tapings are still ongoing.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:28:30 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.6189325 Report Quick Reply
Results from Final Battle Fallout last night - https://411mania.com/wrestling/complete-roh-tv-taping-results-spoilers-7/

>>6189202
Yeah that seems similar to what happened with Josh Alexander
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Rizokahn - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:29:47 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6189415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not much of a spoiler now, but ROH's twitter posted the debuts of PCO and Brody King.

https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/1074308131369435136
https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/1074355726284394499
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Vince Russo - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 14:11:29 EST ID:QvKTLM+8 No.6189438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6189415
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 15:02:49 EST ID:yZhporUv No.6189462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189438

how to ruin two interesting signings right out of the gate

roh outdoing themselves again
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Scott Steiner - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 15:09:11 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6189467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189462
as long as they have those useless 6-man belts you're gonna have wacky Battlebowl stables like this
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 15:09:32 EST ID:hw/cn7Zz No.6189468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189438
YO YOU DEALING WITH THE X-FACTOR
🎵I GOT EVERYTHING I WANTED AND I'LL NEVER GIVE THAT BACK🎵

Reminder that Shane McMahon wanted to hire Red Hot Chilli Pepper coming hot off the release of Californication to do their theme but X-Pac insisted they use Uncle Kracker instead because he had an attitude and also was off his head on pillz
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WrestlingTheSport - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:44:17 EST ID:oBzrFcJd No.6189595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Looks like ROH is actually trying to turn things around and get some new talent in there.
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Ron Harris - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:53:59 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6189610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189595
nice
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Blue Panther - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:55:56 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6189614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189595
look forward to him debuting in a stable with Flip Gordon and Chris Sabin
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Chainz - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:56:28 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6189615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bandido just signed to ROH
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1074462675399254016
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Savannah - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:13:18 EST ID:l6LJpAdr No.6189631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189595
>hypes signing PCO
>dumps him in a stable
Cool for Bandido but I'll wait to see what they do with his debut before getting hyped.
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Johnny Grunge - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:32:47 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6189645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189615
This is probably the end of Bandido in Dragon Gate which sucks, but he could be in BOSJ next year, which is cool.
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Masked Superstar - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:22:15 EST ID:QvKTLM+8 No.6189675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Kevin Nash - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:27:48 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6189677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189675

Who's hitting the pescado?
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Ivan Putski - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:28:34 EST ID:EUVUAnsO No.6189678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189677

Eddie Edwards
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Mascarita Dorada - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:45:56 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6189693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189675
I love this feud so much. Also Moose with the dollar sign trunks is badass.
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Sun, 16 Dec 2018 23:28:39 EST ID:gWmWN2jl No.6189789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189675
Is this the best wrestling related picture of all time?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:11:28 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6190144 Report Quick Reply
The main event for Honor Reigns Supreme next month has been announced - https://www.rohwrestling.com/news/castle-gets-roh-world-title-rematch-concord

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 17-12-2018 18:38:05
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Blue Panther - Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:12:49 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6190147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190144
nice to see ROH coming up with some fresh and exciting matchups now that the Elite are gone
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Earl Hebner - Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:25:12 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6190155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190144
wrong link
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:46:21 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6190163 Report Quick Reply
>>6190155
I corrected it
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CM Punk - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:33:01 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6190507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6183298
>>6183300
I watched ROH religiously for almost 10 years to honor Bryan's final "please keep supporting this company" request but putting the belt on fucking LETHAL again made whatever ethereal wisps of a fuck I had left evaporate.
"Afterthought" is the wrong word. I WISH he was an "afterthought". They've been calling him "The Franchise" & booking him like their Cena & whatnot for years, even when he wasn't champ. Except that he just... fucking... isn't.
He's a reliable in-shape workrate guy who hasn't been poached, somehow. That's his appeal as a corporate tentpole. I frankly feel bad for the fucker; even Roderick fucking Strong found a way to get hired. That must sting something fierce.
>>6183310
>All In made Lethal look like a star
Like... a comedy star or what?
He acted like a goober m8.
>>6189202
>>6189128
>>6189438
>>6189203
>>6183443
>>6183605
>HASKINS
>HOTSAUCE
>HEFTYBOISINC
NEVERMIND GUESS I'M GETTING BACK ON THE WAGON AFTER ALL
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The Maestro - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:15:58 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6190737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ecD7WbKc5Y

Impact uploaded a video of ridiculous early TNA moments embracing how stupid Russo booking was back in the day.
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Adrian Adonis - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:53:52 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6190750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190737
Russo was only in charge of creative for a few months in 2009-2010 though.
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The Maestro - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:00:04 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6190755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190750
Russo was a creative writer for NWA-TNA when they first started in the asylum days. Impact is going back to the Asylum for the Homecoming PPV. They are showing clips from that era on their youtube channel and that compilation is clearly early Russo era.

Also Russo was in creative for TNA in 2009 era a lot longer then a few months.
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Richie Steamboat - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:42:32 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6190775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190755
He was on the team since late 2006 up until Hogan and Bischoff used him as a scapegoat for the rating troubles of the early 2010s
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Mari Apache - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:43:06 EST ID:g0JhSpRF No.6190776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190750
Russo was a creative writer during three periods:
>02-04 (asylum years)
>late 06-11 (Bruce Prichard took over)
>13-14 (working as a "secret consultant")

So Impact has plenty of material to make more top #5 ridiculous moments. Man i hated when they brought him back in late 2006. The previous head of creative was Scott D'amore and although the main event scene was not the best, both the X Division and Tag Team division were on fire. Then, suddenly Russo returns and both divisions turned to shit.
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The Maestro - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:47:36 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6190777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190776
This. I started and stopped watching TNA so quickly. It was the weirdest thing for me.

2018 was not the year I thought I would be getting into Impact but I did.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:59:35 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6190807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>yfw MLW does this match before CMLL
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CM Punk - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:14:36 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6190820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190807
CMLL's done it a few times.
Whether the mask's on the line is the clincher.
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Oz - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:22:52 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6190823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190820
>Whether the mask's on the line is the clincher.
lol. its definitely not. MLW is nice but there's no way that Bauer could afford that.
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Ricky Reyes - Tue, 18 Dec 2018 19:13:52 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6190853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6190820
Yeah lots of people have done it without the mask, and MLW will just be a USA one that does it
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Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:03:35 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6191279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so weird to live in a world where TNA has showdates secured for a whole upcoming season...
>Here is the updated schedule for the promotion in early 2019…
>12/21 – One Night Only Back to Cali PPV on GWN App.
>1/6/19 – Homecoming PPV in Nashville, TN. Live on PPV and Fite.TV.
>1/7/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Nashville, TN.
>1/11/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Mexico City, Mexico.
>1/12/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Mexico City, Mexico.
>1/25/19 – Impact Wrestling vs. WrestlePro in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn NY – live Twitch broadcast.
>1/26/19 – Impact Wrestling One Night Only: New Beginning PPV taping in Hazleton, PA.
>2/15/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Las Vegas.
>2/16/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Las Vegas.
>2/17/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Las Vegas.
>3/22/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Windsor, Ontario.
>3/23/19 – Impact Wrestling TV Taping in Windsor, Ontario.
>4/4/19 – Impact Wrestling Culture Clash in Jamaica, Queens NY – live Twitch broadcast

Also interesting that this is happening just down in the road, the night before Homecoming:
>Here is the card for the National Wrestling Alliance’s January 5th Pop-Up event in Clarksville, TN at the Wilma Rudolph Event Center…
>NWA Worlds Champion Nick Aldis vs. James Storm
>NWA Women’s Champion Jazz vs. Allie
>NWA National Champion Willie Mack vs. Matt Cross
>David Arquette to complete
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The Machine - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:16:27 EST ID:Ya69GLMh No.6191291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191279
>finally figure out how to dodge parking fees for the Impact Some
>they never return
;_;
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Okada - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:31:00 EST ID:4fbjhvX1 No.6191301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189438
>putting these two with fucking Marty
absolutely disgusting. ROH needs to go.
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Xavier - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:32:37 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6191303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6191279
It's awesome that they only do two days of tapings in places now. I can't believe they used to do FIVE(5) DAYS IN A ROW of tapings that were 4 hours each. This new Impact is better in so many ways. More then just the television but also the booking and tapings and production.

Based.
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Vader - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:38:30 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6191308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191301
__________________________________wekrtm8
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Rizokahn - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:50:56 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6191315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191279
Neat. Smart of them to do 2-3 days of tapings instead of marathoning it like before.

Also, looks like the schedule ends right before the April PPV, which I imagine will be announced during Homecoming.
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Little Egypt - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:54:44 EST ID:3rz2Kjle No.6191319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191301
Marty is good.
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Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:55:33 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6191320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191315
I was thinking about that but given the schedule, it looks like episodes would run until the very end of April ,possibly early May. They could run a PPV then (Redemption 2?) but I wonder if they hold off until Slammiversary and then load up that card.
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Rizokahn - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 17:06:40 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6191326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191320
Since last year, they've been doing a live PPV every 3 months. So most likely, it'll be either April 21st or 28th for the next show. I'm also thinking that some of the Las Vegas taping will be for the March ONO.

Also, Sam's Town must be really happy since Impact and ROH are doing shows in back to back months.
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Jimmy Garvin - Wed, 19 Dec 2018 20:17:00 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6191405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6191319
Yeah I like Marty and I hope this new stable helps solidify him as an actual Villian because so far his gimmick has been confusing because he is joking around all the time with the Elite which makes it hard to take him seriously.
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Acid Jaz - Thu, 20 Dec 2018 13:27:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6191613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6189022
>>6189039
Migrating over from this week's dirtsheet thread. which side do you believe?
> There is kind of a war of words behind the scenes between ROH and MLW. Brody King and PCO, who MLW had been pushing as key players, neith