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AEW by Seth Rollins - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:24:32 EST ID:cHaaZUL0 No.6197005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So how is this going to go? No television deal being announced is a concern. You'd think if they were really going to be on the CW you'd want to put that out there for maximum impact.
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Matt Hardy - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:27:10 EST ID:i+A9JH1G No.6197006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just a bunch of self-marks working a bunch of mark journalists into a worked shoot hoping to get an even higher shoot offer from a bunch of worked marks who worked some mark TV stations into mega money deals.
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JTG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:28:19 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6197007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
More info coming next week it appears.

https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1080016187424006144
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Electroshock - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:35:43 EST ID:GRv+yrgf No.6197008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stupid to put off the offcial announcement till the middle of the night on a holiday, though I'm sure everyone who'd give a damn already assumed it was a certainty.
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Bob Sapp - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:44:47 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6197010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197006
corny pls go to sleep
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Brian Adams - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:55:42 EST ID:pmP89w5U No.6197014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197006
I thought that the whole point of being a wrestler was working people into giving you their money.
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Okada - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 03:58:05 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6197017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm glad there is another place for guys to work but I'm not a fan of the Elite's self masturbatory garbage so I'll pass
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Bob Backlund - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 04:00:21 EST ID:IdOCllk4 No.6197018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kenny, Marty, Kota, Owens, Yujiro aren't part of it.
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Christie Ricci - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 04:39:53 EST ID:8kyTimBL No.6197025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197007
>Jacksonville
This pretty much confirms the Khan family is behind it too, no?
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Chavo Guerrero - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 04:43:04 EST ID:1W4lNAZm No.6197027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197025
rev up that ffUckng WAGOn
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red_ !!HIS4h8VG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 04:48:35 EST ID:fN3R5J1B No.6197028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Without TV it looks shaky. Online markets are extremely fickle and you are competing with established content on platforms that aren't dedicated/have zero interest in promoting wrestling. Just look at impactwrestling's Twitch averaging around fifty viewers that don't interact with the stream at all.

The burning question is: are fans willing to pay for this. They put 10,000+ butts in seats for a one off show, but we've not heard the buy rate and the suggestion is that number is not going to be anything to write home about. I look at the number of subscribers that Being the Elite has and the views on their videos; this is a niche product within a niche product.

The foundation looks strong but thin, it will depend on how they plan to produce shows and put out content. But this reeks very early on of Bob Ryder's "we believe there's an audience of 5 million wrestling fans who are willing to pay for a weekly alternative to the WWE". Bob was wrong guys... Bob was wrong.
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Paul Orndorff - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 04:54:51 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6197029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197025
Tony Khan is in this, yeah.
And according to Meltz, there's TV offers on the table already.
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Brian Adams - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 05:08:14 EST ID:pmP89w5U No.6197030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197028
Counter-point: that was iMPACT!
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Dolph Ziggler - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 05:43:32 EST ID:dSiCj7Ft No.6197033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197030
Counter-counter point: Impact Wrestling at its peak had more talent w drawing power in the States than anyone in the Elite (save for Chris Jericho) has ever had. And they still failed miserably. I honestly can't think of any talent they have that gets money out of your pocket outside of Kenny Omega, and even then he's had every match outside of the WWE I want to see, so he doesn't even draw my dollar at that point
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Brian Adams - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 05:46:47 EST ID:pmP89w5U No.6197034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197033
It's almost like it doesn't matter how loaded your roster is when the booking is so terrible it makes your company unwatchable.
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Owen Fart - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 05:58:36 EST ID:rDVsJxRz No.6197035 Report Quick Reply
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if they create new territories by having traveling talent and a big time traveling champ (like the nwa champ, for example) then this can only be a good thing

if they get a taped weekly show on the cw, thats huge since is basically a free channel with a ton of easy views

i wish them all the best but the cynic in me is looking at this like any other startup that gains value and eventually sells their assets to be absorbed into a larger company. then again cody seems to be extremely anti that.

a friend mentioned sorta as a goof that Cody is becoming the Kanye of wrestling. that that as you will, i think its too early to say

happy new year

more wrestling is good, keep it legit and not wrestling entertainment
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Seth Rollins - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:00:01 EST ID:cHaaZUL0 No.6197036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197007
Very notable that Kenny isn't included on the poster for next week's announcement. I thought they had a pact to stick together? Maybe NJPW wouldn't give him the okay due to the ROH relationship, or maybe they're waiting for him to drop the belt at WK later this week. I can't imagine Kenny would leave his home in Japan or Ibushi to work a start up in the US, tho.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:15:54 EST ID:b/6yrda6 No.6197041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197035
>more wrestling is good, keep it legit and not wrestling entertainment

But Cody, the Bucks, Omega and more are all about that wrestling "entertainment".
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Bob Backlund - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:17:11 EST ID:IdOCllk4 No.6197042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197036
Kenny is staying in NJPW.
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red_ !!HIS4h8VG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:32:35 EST ID:fN3R5J1B No.6197057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197030
Yep and they had: Styles, Daniels, Joe, Jarrett, Hall, R-Truth, Angle, Steiner, Sting, Nash, both Hardys, both Dudleys, Christian, Punk, Lethal, Okada, Burke, Hemme, Kong...

Like that's the star power they had. Oh and had a major television network deal. Oh and convinced that television network to go head to head with WWE.

It is possible to have every advantage and still fail to be a good business and squander those advantages.
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Curry Man - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:49:48 EST ID:ay4T8hnA No.6197063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197033
Impact was WCW 2, but with less money, it's really astounding all the dumb shit they did over the years. Personally I don't think they would've ever been a true competitor to the WWE, but they could've remained a good alternative program and maintained a strong following if they didn't burn their fanbase so much.
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Owen Fart - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:52:59 EST ID:rDVsJxRz No.6197065 Report Quick Reply
>>6197063

its always wild to me that despite all the shit booking and bullshit they they really raised the the stock of a shitload of guys that wrestled there. im glad they gave it a shot even if hindsight shows it was a half assed attempt.
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Seth Rollins - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 07:17:46 EST ID:cHaaZUL0 No.6197071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197035
>a friend mentioned sorta as a goof that Cody is becoming the Kanye of wrestling. that that as you will, i think its too early to say

WTF does that even mean?

>>6197042
>Kenny is staying in NJPW.

If NJPW stays loyal to ROH and won't use these guys, that's bad news. Kenny is essential IMO.
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red_ !!HIS4h8VG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 07:22:52 EST ID:fN3R5J1B No.6197073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197065
Don't forget the dumb shit marketing... when Dixie WORKED IN MARKETING FOR FIVE YEARS!

They would send out "fan packs" to people to give out flyers about TNA shows... but they didn't send them to towns where TNA was performing, they sent them to people in towns where RAW was being filmed to hand out.

Or the time TNA spent money on billboards in Stanford that faced the WWE building advertising IMPACT WRESTLING?!

Or the time when they went on the road they LOST money using rental trucks and lost out on the opportunity to brand their trucks.

Or the time when they bought advertising time on Sky Sports during RAW to advertise their UK Tour - great idea until you realise RAW is shown at 2am in the morning and most people record the show and fast forward through the adverts.
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Scotty Vortekz - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 07:26:32 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6197076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197028
>Without TV it looks shaky.
They've got TV offers
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Rene Dupree - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 07:37:32 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6197078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The thing i'm worried about is the production values of their product. ALL IN was more or less under ROH's umbrella when it comes to that.
With ROH no longer involved, they'll have to pull together a lot to produce something that doesn't look amateur (like NWA's PPV in October).
I can get why some fans aren't sold yet, especially from the fairly low production value of the actual reveal, but I think everyone will give it a fair chance to see what they can do.
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Owen Fart - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 07:39:34 EST ID:rDVsJxRz No.6197079 Report Quick Reply
>>6197073

All that is valid, but its in the past at this point.

At the very least, I have to believe anyone going into this project in any capacity is aware of those mistakes and at the very least may make an effort to not repeat them.
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Annie Social - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 08:10:34 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6197083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197071
In this situation why on earth do you think ROH has the leverage to dictate whether New Japan can continue using literally one of their biggest draws and someone essential to their overseas growth?
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Bob Backlund - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:00:21 EST ID:IdOCllk4 No.6197092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197071
Kenny and Roh are staying
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Jeremy Borash - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:12:50 EST ID:H0DhkjUr No.6197093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shahid Khan has more money than Vince and his family will ever see. WWE weenies on suicide watch.
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Kazarian - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:20:42 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WO recap: https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1080009547320676354

>Dave says there will be more news in the next couple of days. Cody and a couple other guys are signed to AEW. The Bucks actually aren't, but Dave thinks they will be relatively soon, in the next 24-48 hours maybe.

>Dave says AEW doesn't have a TV deal yet but there's multiple offers out there and he's more confident about them getting TV now than he once was. He stresses that nothing is done until a deal is signed, things can fall through.

>Tony Khan is indeed the head of AEW. The contracts people are being signed to are multi-year deals. Jericho is not signed with AEW but he put that picture of him up with the Khans or at a football game or whatever for a reason.

>Dave says if AEW talent can work with New Japan is completely up in the air. He says he knows the AEW guys would like to continue working there and he hopes to know more about that in the next few days.

>Dave says All In being a success was the key to AEW existing. There were people in the TV industry that were very impressed by that show.

>Dave thinks this wrestling war is the best thing for talent since WWF vs. WCW. Says ROH is in this game too, they do not want to fall to number 3 in the US. Says that them getting Bandido when everyone was looking to get him is a sign of that.

>Dave now talking about how who this war is bad for is PWG/AAW, big indies like that. Guys that get buzz at that level now are going to be snapped up by someone very quickly. Lots of stuff Dave has said before.

>Dave thinks is the best thing that has happened to wrestling since WCW died. (Which to be clear, he isn't saying was a good thing, he says that was the worst thing.) BUT WILL IT BE AS BIG AS FLOSLAM DAVE?

>There will likely be more news in the next week, AEW is talking with all the guys you probably think they're talking to. That seems about it, at least for the start of the show, they're moving on to other topics.

>So to sum up, the Being the Elite announcement was about as basic an announcement as you could get, just confirming what we already assumed/knew. Dave actually had the one bigger scoop, which is that they have multiple TV offers.

>Dave was still trying to pump the breaks about being confident that AEW will get TV, but there was a definite change in his tone from recent weeks where he would basically say he hadn't heard a thing about TV.
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red_ !!HIS4h8VG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:25:40 EST ID:fN3R5J1B No.6197100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197076
oh shi- retract everything...
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Kazarian - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:26:44 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197098
>I agree with the sentiment that competition is good for wrestling, exciting and desperately needed, but I think the flipside to that is that I don't think the current industry can support all the players now. Someone, or multiple somones, are getting eaten in 2019.
>Maybe that's as simple as Impact being absorbed by someone, but I feel like it could be more. There's not enough talent, not enough fans, not enough money to go around.
>I hope I'm wrong, but when I look at AEW and recent moves by ROH and WWE, it looks like this "war" will be over shares of the existing hardcore fans rather than something to grow wrestling's overall audience.
>It's people fighting over how big a slice of the existing pie they get, not about growing the pie. I'm just saying, if you're a wrestler, get paid NOW, don't defer it. This situation might now be so rosy for talent in a year or two.
>If you're lucky enough to be a WWE midcarder or better and your contract expires in say, the next six months or so, you are so god damned lucky right now. Basically holding a winning lottery ticket cause the moons are aligning at the right time.
https://twitter.com/TrevorDame/status/1080022288408268801
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Kazarian - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:28:09 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197101
>Apparently AEW has several million set aside for consultancy fees. Allegedly members of the media have been receiving them since August.
source: rovert
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:31:15 EST ID:nDYCLFBn No.6197106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hmm. Just how much can you stretch hardcore fans? They're the only ones that honestly will go to these shows.
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Kurrgan - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:34:37 EST ID:c/sk6+n1 No.6197107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So do you think they'll get any currently employed WWE guys before the year is over? And if so, who?
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Kazarian - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:34:55 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197102
>Consulting gigs are good if you can get them. And don't care about the conflict.
https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1079994817818619904
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D-Ray 3000 - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:47:20 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6197115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197036
>Or Ibushi
FFS HE’S NOT ACTUALLY GAY
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Midajah - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:07:47 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6197123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Double or Nothing
>actually end up with nothing
Cap this post. Zero dimes will be drawn.
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JTG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:18:22 EST ID:9P2jdKq5 No.6197125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197108
Is Sean Ross whining he has to cover more wrestling?
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El Oriental - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:19:23 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6197126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197101
>If you're lucky enough to be a WWE midcarder or better and your contract expires in say, the next six months or so, you are so god damned lucky right now. Basically holding a winning lottery ticket cause the moons are aligning at the right time.
Guess it's safe to assume the people they signed from the Cruiserweight Classic back in 2016 got the standard 3-year deal.
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Midajah - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:25:17 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6197128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is this going to out-cringe the last "invasion" they did? That's a tough feat to follow.
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Scotty Vortekz - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:27:56 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6197129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197123
they've got a cult following them wherever they go, they'll be fine.
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The Red Rooster - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:34:35 EST ID:NSI92n2Q No.6197130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197123
I wonder what posts you demanded to be capped before All In.
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Brian Pillman - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:40:45 EST ID:hQ5DimM9 No.6197131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197042
He’d be an idiot not to
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Rene Dupree - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:58:36 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6197138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197128
For those wondering, it's a five minute walk
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 11:10:13 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6197144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197005
GFW 2.0 with the Bullet Club / Elite circlejerk surrounding it. If you liked ALL IN where everyone booked themselves to get over, you'll enjoy AEW...if they get a TV deal.
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Arm Van Dam - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 11:29:33 EST ID:udjc2s5d No.6197155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Khans are literally richer than Vince
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red_ !!HIS4h8VG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 11:52:08 EST ID:fN3R5J1B No.6197160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197155
>so was Turner
>so was Carter
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Kazarian - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:07:58 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197160
>so was Carter

lol no
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:08:34 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6197166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197102
So the joke about Meltzer being paid off by the Elite is real then?
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Kazarian - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:08:38 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>A reliable source told me a few weeks ago that Cody would be the executive producer of AEW events/possible TV show and The Bucks would be the bookers, with other members of BTE serving in backstage roles (like agents).

>I’m assuming that hasn’t changed in the weeks since.

>I also know of some popular WWE wrestlers watching what happens with All Elite Wrestling very closely, as they’re unhappy creatively and looking for a change of scenery.
https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1080136216190828544
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Seth Rollins - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:14:40 EST ID:cHaaZUL0 No.6197168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197083
I said nothing about ROH having any leverage or dictating anything. I brought up NJPW staying loyal to ROH. Historically, they've been loyal to their overseas partners. There are notes in the Observer all the time about them not letting dudes wrestle AAA guys out of loyalty to CMLL.

>>6197092
I keep seeing people saying Kenny is staying in NJPW as if it's set in stone. Where are you getting this info from? If this Khan fellow was able to offer Cody and the Bucks enough to turn down 7 figure WWE contracts, why wouldn't he offer the same to Kenny and Kota? Judging by that social media post Jericho made, he's obviously in play as well, and that dude does not come cheap at all, especially if it means being in open rebellion of Vince.
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Midajah - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:21:13 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6197171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197167
*books selves to win*
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Annie Social - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:22:57 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6197172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197168
There's loyalty and there's kowtowing to ridiculous demands like stop using one of our biggest names because he works elsewhere, ROH are in no position to ask them to do so and New Japan have no reason not to carry on using him
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Delirious - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:23:09 EST ID:THYFZ44J No.6197173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197167
>Rhodes ISN'T the booker.
Is this a good omen or a bad omen, I can't tell.
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Highlander Robbie - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:25:15 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6197175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197171
>that's muh sonn
>muh sonnn
>the fruit of my loinsss
>the greatest achievement I ever done did daddy
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Boddy Roode - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:02:28 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6197191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can see Omega being saved for big events. When Kenny Omega was at Northeast Wrestling he mentioned that he was still trying to bring New Japan to the northeast and I assume that extends to the rest of the US. If AEW gets access to the bigger buildings and stadiums, that might make them a more attractive partner than ROH.

All In would make you think ROH is willing to get along, but things are different now.
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Big E Langston - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:11:27 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This guy pretty much sums it up pretty well

>No.

>All of you saying these types of things desperately need a reality check because you're setting up the company for failure before it has even began.

>The WWE is a billion dollar publicly traded media conglomerate. They have TV distribution all over the world, long term advertisers and sponsors, a worldwide touring schedule, long term relationships with buildings and regional promoters in every major market in the world, a generationally famous brand and a huge social media presence.

>This reality is often lost amongst the hard-core fans because they sort of live inside a bubble. Its like if you grew up next door to the New York Yankees and went to every game - you don't really appreciate what they mean globally as a brand because they're your local team.

>The WWE isn't some local carny production that has a TV show. It has a market cap approaching six billion dollars, it's one of the biggest content producers in the world.

>AEW is decades away from even the slight possibility of competing with WWE.

>To give you an impression, this is like 3 car enthusiasts in a garage suggesting that they're going to compete with Aston Martin. They're not. Even if they get their product quality better, which is doubtful, and the marketing or exposure, which is laughable, they won't have the manufacturing processes in order to get the cars out quick enough to be sold. They're three blokes in a garage.

>Oh and WWE is bigger is Aston Martin.

>Wrestling fans tend to make extremely poor analysts of the wrestling business because they are too close to it. For us, NJPW touring here was big and showed they're ready to be a competitor to WWE. They seemed almost like equals during that hot run.

>WWE spent more on catering last year than the entire revenue of NJPW.

>They're over 200 times the size of them.

>WWE shouldn't even be considered as part of the wrestling marketplace any more because they've transcended it. That's great. Good for them. They don't want to be wrestling and we don't want them to be here. Everybody is happy.

>The wrestling marketplace is Impact, NJPW, NWA, etc. That's who AEW should be and will be looking to compete with and that's the expectations that we should set for them
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Layla - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:17:00 EST ID:hujfT5gu No.6197195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope they scoop up enough talent for it to work. 6 dudes don't make a promotion and they borrowed alot of talent to make All In work.
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Bob Backlund - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:23:58 EST ID:IdOCllk4 No.6197200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197194
Cringe
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Vickie Guerrero - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:26:18 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6197201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197194
This. No one is going to start a wrestling promotion and immediately be on the same level as WWE. AEW is going to be competing with Impact and ROH, not WWE.

AEW trying to take on WWE is going to go about as well as when TNA tried going head to head with Raw.
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Scotty Vortekz - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:31:18 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6197204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What is it about these guys that brings out the cringiest wrestling fans? Doesn't matter if they're attacking or defending them, it's painful to read. I don't understand it.
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Boddy Roode - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:34:42 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6197210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is why no one can hope to compete. Because everything an emerging promotion does is framed by how it fits into a narrative controlled by WWE. Remember when GFW first started being a thing and didn't even have TV or was running shows and every article about them made it more about WWE and competing with them than about GFW itself?

AEW would be smart to put the focus on themselves and what they plan on doing and outright dismissing anyone that tries making it about WWE. Refuse to talk about them outright. Hopefully Cody, the Bucks and the Khans are smart enough to realize this. They need to make the conversation about themselves.
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Paul Orndorff - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:37:12 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6197211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197144
>where everyone booked themselves to get over
Didn't the Bucks literally cut most of their shit from the main event when the match was cut for time, while ensuring that Bandido got to shine because he was the least known dude in the match?
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Masked Superstar - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:37:31 EST ID:53swlh71 No.6197212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197194
I agree with much of this until it takes a bizarre left turn into declaring that WWE has transcended it's own product and is no longer part of the wrestling market. That's just as naive as thinking AEW is going to break Vince. WWE hasn't transcended the market, it's dominates it.

To this day, WWE still buys up popular wrestlers that it has no real intention of using just to weaken the competition. For AEW to succeed, it needs to be able to create it's own brand while fending off WWE's attempts to warehouse their top talent. They aren't competing with WWE to win control of the market, they're competing with WWE to survive as a brand.
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Boddy Roode - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:40:04 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6197215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197211
This. At least it turned out well for Bandido, even if he ended up in the black hole of hype that is ROH.
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Peter Maivia - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:40:36 EST ID:lBA50pcu No.6197217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197212
>buying up talent

Knowing the WWE wont use talents, then why do they keep signing? What's wrong with income?
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Masked Superstar - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:43:05 EST ID:53swlh71 No.6197220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197217
>why do they keep signing?

Money and the fantasy of getting that Cena push.
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Paul Orndorff - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 13:47:57 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6197222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197217
>then why do they keep signing?
Outside of guys like AJ & Nakamura, they're marks for WWE & want to "work for their dream job," even if it means eating a lot of shit & not making main event-level money.
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Okada - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:04:47 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6197225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really think Meltzer has a vested interest in this
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Bastion Booger - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:11:51 EST ID:PNMApnVc No.6197231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197173
Well the last Cody match I watched was a the All In one where DDP did a run in because they had to stall for time cause Cody couldn’t find the razer to blade himself.
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Crossbones - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:14:31 EST ID:3jteiVNf No.6197232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197027
Is this like the BangBus?
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Big E Langston - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:39:28 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197217
Exposure

Look at Pac. He can draw so much more now and hes doing the King of the Cruiserweights gimmick on the indies.

This is pretty much Al Snow's philosophy on going to the WWE. You dont go there to be rich and famous. You go because its the biggest market to advertise your brand and thus just being in WWE makes you a bigger draw elsewhere.
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Crossbones - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:42:53 EST ID:3jteiVNf No.6197247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197211
THe kind of person you are arguing with doesn't care about reality and they also peddle the narrative that Cody somehow booked himself to win the NWA WHC there even though Corgan is the one who owns the belt/the branding and is the one who decides who is going to be champion. I'm sure he consluts with Lagana and others too. But the idea that Cody called him up and said "I'm winning your belt at my show" is beyond stupid. And people like the guy you are arguing with believe that because they have this irrational hatred for these guys for trying to make their own way instead of just succumbing to being a cog in a machine. Very odd kind of begrudging type person who behaves like that.
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Delirious - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:45:27 EST ID:THYFZ44J No.6197249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197217
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:47:11 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6197251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197249
kevin would make it far in the wrestling business
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D-Ray 3000 - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 14:56:07 EST ID:i/vMZ8oL No.6197259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197251
I like kevin seems like the guy who'd have the friends who helped him out murdered after he reached his goal and no longer needs them.
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Zardoz - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:01:45 EST ID:G0uyKAOX No.6197263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is pretty cool. I don't think anyone expects them to compete with WWE, but it's nice to have another option for wrestlers to make money.

I have no idea how much wrestlers on any level make, but if they can compete with the money they should be able to pick up some talented guys. Also, no income tax in Florida will help.
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Mentallo - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:04:04 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6197265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But what happens to Impact wrestling?
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Delirious - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:07:49 EST ID:THYFZ44J No.6197268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197265
It'll keep jumping from network to network, hoping each time that the next leap will be the leap home.
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:15:51 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6197272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197265
I think there might be an agreement to use Impact talent considering how it seems ROH are pissed this is going to be a thing but at the end of the day, all things must come to an end.

The saviour for them might be any TV network that doesn't get AEW but wants wrestling can always offer them something instead (the Pursuit deal isn't exclusive and all things point to it being a stop gap) but even then, the decline in viewership has been horrendous and I think it might not be salvageable no matter how different the product has been, networks will always point to how much they drew on Spike compared to how the drop has been since.

I like their PPVs, I'll watch Homecoming. That's on Sunday by the way.
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Mototsugu Shimizu - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:35:11 EST ID:7mkccnN4 No.6197279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197014

No it's to leverage your celebrity into getting you a podcast or youtube show
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Rain - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:35:49 EST ID:GQBI32Cc No.6197281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197268
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2 Tuff Tony - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:44:35 EST ID:dVvsHXyz No.6197283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197263
>I don't think anyone expects them to compete with WWE

Lol you'd be real surprised. Just take a peak at the comments on this...
https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/1080147547556069377
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Midajah - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 15:47:06 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6197285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197283
I can almost smell that comment section.
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FlashLightning - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:28:17 EST ID:SpL1EOtc No.6197308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197283
Good Lord. Let AEW get their stuff straight first. It's like "Vinny Mac should be shaking in his boots right now 'cause AEW is going to each his lunch."

We shouldn't expect the promotion to completely overtake WWE unless something drastic were to happen; and there's a whole host of other promotions that are vying for attention too.

I say it's kind of exciting being a wrestling fan now and to see how everything plays out.
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Rizokahn - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:35:50 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6197313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Already an interesting 2019.

If AEW can provide employee benefits, I can see a lot of people in WWE jumping over when their contracts expire.
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Okada - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:38:59 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6197316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197283
those comments are pure unadulterated autism
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Big E Langston - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:51:46 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197283

This is why I dont mind when im called a supposed "e-drone" or "bootlicker"

At least im not a fedora tipping autist like those idiots lol
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Paul Orndorff - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:58:33 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6197333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197313
All AEW has to do is throw real money at some of those guys. It really all depends on what Tony Khan is willing to spend.

>>6197323
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Mabel - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 16:59:47 EST ID:j9BKVdT8 No.6197335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Name and logo are still shit
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Brian Hebner - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:08:04 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6197342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197323
Seriously. I hate Raw, but If I had to choose to watch Raw 24/7 straight, or choose to side with these fatties, I'd take Raw.
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Manami Toyota - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:08:59 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6197343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197335
The logo would be decent If they just got rid of the stupid gritty texturing. Can't do much about the name, though.
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Brian Hebner - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:09:26 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6197344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197335
The name is fine, the logo does suck. I think the gold is because it's mimicking the Jags' uniforms, but it doesn't look good.
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Acid Jaz - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:11:26 EST ID:hCjxCRST No.6197347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Really hope this doesn't go the way of GFW.... I remember the hype on here and it turned out to be nothing.
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:13:49 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6197351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197347
The only thing i remember from GFW is /wooo/ books GFW and it was more hype than actual GFW.
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Crossbones - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:15:39 EST ID:3jteiVNf No.6197354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197323
You're just as big of an idiot as they are.
Two sides of the same cringey mark coin
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Paul Orndorff - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:16:57 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6197356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197344
I'm pretty sure it's based off the Golden Elite logo
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Brian Hebner - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:20:51 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6197358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197347
GFW had zero real funding
>>6197356
That's not the same gold color. That's one is much darker
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Bad News Brown - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:32:39 EST ID:lu8rAx1S No.6197369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197005

Good luck to them to be honest. Will just be something for some people to watch on the side I would imagine.
Be interesting if they actually sign people to it or they just have the odd wrestlers turn up here and there.
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red_ !!HIS4h8VG - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:32:45 EST ID:fN3R5J1B No.6197370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197351
What I remember from GFW was their roster reveal being hosted in a seedy off the strip hotel in Vegas and despite Jeff doing all this social media hype for it there were two tweets:
>We're about to start the roster reveal
>Thanks to everyone who attended

They didn't tweet out a single roster reveal... that and GFWGold
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:42:00 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6197381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197370
>GFWGold

holy smokes i almost forgot about that
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Boddy Roode - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:48:58 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6197389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197370
Yeah, that was bad. And barely anyone showed up so our first look at the roster was some random guy that took pics of the reveals. And when they streamed their first show on Periscope off some dude's phone. Which was cool because we were never meant to see them anyway, but it's not a good look.

I was rooting for it, and even went to one of their shows in Poughkeepsie. They made good use of the limited roster and I got to see Jigsaw wrestle in person so that was cool. But Jeff picked the absolute worst time to try and start up. And picked an even worse time to fall off the wagon when it looked like he'd be victorious in the end.

Jeff gets a lot of shit on here, but he's a good old school promoter and knows how to promote locally and run fun shows. One of my favorite wrestling shows I ever went to was a TNA show in a high school in the era when he ran house shows. He was woefully unprepared to launch a venture with that level of ambition in 2014. And his web and social media people were clearly some random shmucks that were plucked off the street and had no fucking clue.
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Big E Langston - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:52:39 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197381
For those unaware Global Force Wrestling tried scamming people out of money through a pyramid scheme

This is the video you got after signing up for "Global Force Gold"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?amp=&v=gDLZGSEZOmc

and here is the "Jeffs Busted" video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZp_Cy177a0
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Bobby Lashley - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 17:59:22 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6197402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197381
>Great, do you want my social security number while you're at it?
>I don't give a fuck about your autograph.
I loved that solomonster audio clip. Can't find it now, but there's the Jeff's Busted video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZp_Cy177a0
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Nick Papagiorgio - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 19:25:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/tony-khan-all-elite-wrestling/#.XCwEePlKjIV
>All Elite Wrestling was officially announced last night, and sources have confirmed Jacksonville Jaguars co-owner Tony Khan is President of the company.

>As we previously reported, the Khan family has been connected to the rumors of All Elite Wrestling since they first began. Our sources say that’s because Tony Khan is a big part of AEW, as he’ll be serving in the top role of the company.

>We’re told Matt Jackson, Nick Jackson and Cody Rhodes will serve as Executive Vice Presidents. Sources say keeping the creative team behind All In together was a huge element of the deal.

>In case you missed it, the group will be holding a rally at TIAA Field next week to announce more details about the followup to All In titled “Double or Nothing.” The rally just so happens to be within walking distance of the SmackDown taping happening on the same day.

>According to PWInsider, the group has already had conversations with multiple networks about a possible TV show in 2019 — but no word on which ones exactly. AEW is also apparently actively talking to talent about signing multi-year contracts.

>FYI — Forbes claims the Khan family is estimated to be worth $6.3 billion. They also own Fulham F.C.
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KAGETORA - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 19:27:22 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197451

So if All In was like a demo tape for TV companies, what happens if ROH and NJPW arent part of this? Lets be real, NJPW was part of the draw for All In and ROH did all of the production.
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 19:34:11 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6197468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197451

>According to PWInsider, the group has already had conversations with multiple networks about a possible TV show in 2019 — but no word on which ones exactly. AEW is also apparently actively talking to talent about signing multi-year contracts.

I wonder what talents they're after... for some reason, Shane Strickland pops to mind. Wasn't he supposed to sign with WWE like months ago but it just keeps getting held up?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 19:42:06 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6197474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197468
I mean right now he's doing a storyline in MLW that's basically a worked shoot so who knows if he'll stay in MLW or go to another promotion.
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MEN's Teioh - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:02:11 EST ID:9P2jdKq5 No.6197490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197468
Bucks have wanted ROH to sign them to a deal so they can work the US more
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CM Punk - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:06:08 EST ID:+du9gx4O No.6197497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197468
I feel Matt Cross is gonna be sought after too.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:08:36 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6197499 Report Quick Reply
>>6197497
If his LU contract is up then he'd be a good signing.
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:08:44 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6197500 Report Quick Reply
>>6197499
Talks are very close about signing a three-year contract, and have less people in MP.
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CM Punk - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:27:45 EST ID:+du9gx4O No.6197512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197499
Now that I mentioned it, haven't Lucha Bros not signed anywhere yet?
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Jim Johnston - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:31:52 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6197514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197512
they're in every promotion worth a damn already, why would they tie themselves down
just had a great match in CMLL
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CM Punk - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:33:00 EST ID:+du9gx4O No.6197515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197514
I don't know why they would, just coming up with ideas of who they might be after that were also booked on All In.
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Bill Alfonos - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:36:01 EST ID:leIT/iXA No.6197517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197500
>based NJ with the AEW scoopz
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Nick Papagiorgio - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 21:18:43 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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source: https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1080284147577323520
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CM Punk - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 21:23:11 EST ID:+du9gx4O No.6197566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A friend just pointed out that a lot of the wrestlers that are assumed to have signed already have all been people that advocated health insurance for wrestlers. Given Tony Khan is a major backer and he has ties to football, there is a chance that that might be included in the contracts. Which would be a huge reason a lot of people would sign.
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She Nay Nay - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 21:42:11 EST ID:3rz2Kjle No.6197578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197514
So they can have a "steady purpose" in their careers instead of just being used as special attractions?
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Jim Johnston - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 21:44:42 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6197582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197578
>steady purpose
like what, feuding with Cody's butt buddies eternally on WGN-3 or whatever non-channel this ends up on?
they're literally booked constantly
there's no reason they'd sign with this even if they weren't under LU thousand-year contracts
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Typhoon - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:31:20 EST ID:n0MsySuJ No.6197609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197125
It seems to be more implying that Meltz is one of their consultants and of course not actually disclosing this which puts his months and months of dick sucking of the Elite, All In and whatever in a new light since all of this has likely been in the works since at least around the time of All In if not earlier.
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Meng - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:43:00 EST ID:3jteiVNf No.6197623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197609
Big Money Meltz
only fux with billionaires
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MEN's Teioh - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:50:47 EST ID:9P2jdKq5 No.6197628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197609
To be fair, Sean Ross is still a whiny little bitch given how he literally whined about being too lazy to stream any women's wrestling in Japan and kept pushing for NJPW to start a women's division instead
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Madison Rayne - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:55:33 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6197629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197609
meltz has been giving wrestlers and promoters business advice for 30 years
this is non news, it's literally part of his job
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Jesse Neal - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:13:00 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6197636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197628
Wasn't that Bix?
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Dr. Wagner Jr. - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:26:40 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6197643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197636
Sean Ross and Bix are retarded yes
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Johnny the Bull - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 00:39:27 EST ID:cHaaZUL0 No.6197655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197115
You are techinically correct, he's bisexual.
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CM Punk - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 00:56:17 EST ID:+du9gx4O No.6197657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197655
True. He's admitted it in an interview.
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Jimmy Garvin - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 04:25:12 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6197693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As corny as BTE can be, they do a lot right with it. Using a web show to sell storylines and feuds is smart, and I'm sure it's going to be an even bigger project with AEW. Real cameras and a proper team to shoot and edit is only going to make them easier for others to get into.

If there's anyone right now who can give wrestling the shake it needs it's them. They have the momentum and they figured out a way to keep it going. Hoping for good things.
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Dragonfly - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:16:30 EST ID:v0nGhM6y No.6197725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Everytime a new wrestling company with a TV deal emerges, I'm worried about the following things:

>Jeff Jarrett being involved in some way
>It being WWE Lite
>Heavy focus on "legends"
>Hiring Ex-WWE wrestlers turned agents, bookers, etc. for new promotion giving it a WWE Stink
>The creators being active roster members booking themselves
>Hiring Ex-WWE Wrestlers and putting focus on them instead of creating new stars
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Togi Makabe - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:26:35 EST ID:THYFZ44J No.6197729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197725
I'm waiting for Cody to go down the Jeff Jarret route and make CashforGoldust.com a thing.
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Tank - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:28:27 EST ID:2gPQBPj+ No.6197731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197281
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Acid Jaz - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:42:13 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6197738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Since Brandi is signed, I assume they are gonna have a women's division. Who are they gonna fill that up with? I feel like there aren't many women left out there making any noise since WWE snagged most of the indy women and Impact and ROH have most of the rest.
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Neko Nitta - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:08:53 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6197739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197265
They'll continue their trend of hitting the reset button 3 times a year
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Gree Ant - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:38:55 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6197744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197725
>Zack Ryder debuts to a row of sweaty marks yelling HOLY SHIT and bowing for twenty minutes as he wins their midcard title
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Shelley Martinez - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:31:03 EST ID:0J/9kIpN No.6197767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197725
ex-WWE wrestlers were what made WCW the top wrestling company for a few years
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:37:08 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Tony Khan, co-owner of the NFL's Jacksonville Jaguars, is indeed involved as a top executive and as the company's major financial backer. According to a well placed source, Khan is fronting $100 million for the launch of AEW.

>Jim Ross, who has repeatedly denied involvement with AEW, will be heavily involved - both on commentary and in a backstage capacity. Ross is likely not commenting on this situation because technically he is still under contract to WWE for a few more months. JR and WWE will not be renewing their contract so you can expect that once he is officially out, his involvement will be publicized.

>Sports agent Barry Bloom, who already represents many prolific talent in the industry, is involved from a recruitment perspective. According to our source, AEW will "go hard" at WWE for stars whose deals will be expiring and they will be "mixing in legends" as well. One name that has been brought up is Goldberg, who I believe is already a client of Bloom's. Chris Jericho - who has also been rumored to be connected to this new promotion - is going to be involved "in depth" as well, as per our source. There are other WWE employees/contractors (note, this does not necessarily mean wrestlers) who AEW is going to pursue aggressively when they are legally able to.

>It was previously rumored that AEW was working on a national TV deal. As per our sources, Khan is indeed using his connections to work on a prospective TV deal and one of the networks that they are negotiating with is Time Warner to have AEW air on TNT/TBS.

>While Cody and the Young Bucks have been announced as EVPs of All Elite Wrestling, we were told that they will focus mainly on wrestling and not necessarily in the creative aspect of the promotion.
https://rajah.com/node/jim-ross-chris-jericho-be-involved-aew-more-exclusive-news-notes
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:40:48 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All Elite Wrestling's TV Speculation: What We Know So Far
>With All Elite Wrestling being officially announced this morning, there's plenty of speculation as to what kind of television deal -- if any -- they could land.

>Dave Meltzer of Wrestling Observer stated last night that there are several deals on the table, but no names were dropped in that regard.

>What we do know is that Cody and the members of All Elite Wrestling have previous relationships established with both AXS TV and WGN America. When the initial report of All Elite Wrestling dropped in October, AXS categorically denied their involvement in the promotion. AXS has a limited reach, but have shown a willingness to expand pro wrestling content, as WOW Women Of Wrestling launches in weeks on the Network.

>I had the fortune of speaking to a couple of WGN employees who were familiar with the company's history with pro wrestling, and said that their officials and executives were very impressed with the success and delivery of All In: Zero Hour on the network. Keep in mind, this is a network that has been in and out of the wrestling game for decades, and many there thought they were sold a bill of goods on the WWE Superstars deal in 2011. That deal originally had the likes of Undertaker, Shane McMahon, Edge, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho and title matches featured on it in a prime time slot and didn't take long before the quality of programming decreased. WGN also had less-than-desirable experiences with WWF Blastoff and Wrestling With Death. They currently air Ring Warriors as well.

>When Fightful spoke to Cody Rhodes ahead of All In, he explained the situation that surrounded him as he negotiated with WGN America while its parent company Tribune Media was trying to make a merger happen with ROH parent company Sinclair Broadcast Group.

>"None of this could have happened if it were a company -- a WWE, a Ring of Honor. This happened because it was three guys. That's why none of this situation surrounding the madness (of Sinclair-Tribune) -- we were quiet. People wanted All In and Zero Hour on. We were outside of the politics. It was something that was heavily discussed. They wanted wrestling and we had the best wrestling thing to give them."

>I would be remiss to not mention TNT, as well. Although they've not aired wrestling programming since WCW left in 2001, they're very clearly open to that type of demographic now as they're at least dipping their toes into the MMA game by airing one-hour taped editions of ONE Championship MMA.

>There are also no shortage of digital platforms available to All Elite Wrestling, which is to be expected. They've filed trademarks for "Tuesday Night Dynamite," and there will be a major gap on cable and network television from Tuesday to Thursday this year, with WWE Smackdown and Impact both moving to Friday.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/all-elite-wrestling-s-tv-speculation-what-we-know-so-far
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Mankind - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:46:24 EST ID:td47sDqf No.6197772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197768
Man I really hope this is something. WWE has ignored NJPW because they're still in Japan for the most part, but another promotion with actual stability in the US is what they need to wake up. That's the only way their product will change and always has been.
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:52:01 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197772
>another promotion with actual stability in the US is what [WWE] need to wake up.
>That's the only way their product will change and always has been.

christ, why does everything have to go back to "how will this affect wwe?"

who needs to give a shit?
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Lita - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:58:40 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6197775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197774
Because WWE is the big dog in the US wrestling industry, like it or not
and they reacted to a little shit like TNA, so why wouldn't they react to this?
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Mason Ryan - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 10:03:55 EST ID:L77eUoWl No.6197776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197774
Because competition is a good thing and WWE is the drizzling shits right now, so people who used to enjoy the WWE are hopeful this might at least affect them just a little bit.
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 10:07:37 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197775
No one on this board has a financial stake in WWE. How they react to AEW *should be* irrelevant to fans' response.

AEW (and ROH and Impact and MLW) should be judged on the strengths and flaws of their product, not by how they affect the WWE's shadow over them.

And if WWE goes out of its way to kneecap AEW (and ROH and Impact and MLW) then smarks shouldn't hold it against these smaller promotions (but they do)
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Lita - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:20:06 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6197818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197777
>No one on this board has a financial stake in WWE
I never put that in doubt
Everything you're saying is true, but this board still has a lot of people that watch Raw and Smackdown even though the constantly complain about it.
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Riho - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:22:16 EST ID:53swlh71 No.6197822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197774
WWE produces 83,000 hours of wrestling a week and only one of those hours is watchable. If you made a child watch every hour of television WWE has produced, that child would die of old age.

It's not just the biggest company, it produces more hours of wrestling a week than every other company combined, and it employs most of the best wrestlers in the world.
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The People - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:32:05 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.6197832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197777
>No one on this board has a financial stake in WWE.
Holy shit, why is this always the first thing people go to when people discuss how WWE will react to shit like this. Nobody gives a fuck about how it affects their bottom dollar, it's purely about how WWE's product will (or even won't) change in the face of potential competition. People want WWE's product to be good, hell people want the wrestling industry in general to be good, they're not worried about if Vince is going to have enough money to buy another diamond statue of him and Cena coiled in a lover's embrace.
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Mister Toad !SsYwTDHDIY - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:32:44 EST ID:Z8jsFD+3 No.6197833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197777
The wrestling business isn't a vacuum. There's a finite amount of wrestlers and people possibly interested in wrestling. It all matters.
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Go Shiozaki - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:58:07 EST ID:H0DhkjUr No.6197853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who cares what effect this will have on WWE? I'm just happy to have another alternative to that shit show.
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:58:24 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197832
>it's purely about how WWE's product will (or even won't) change in the face of potential competition.
the problem with this, is that it still puts all non-WWE wrestling under the lens of WWE, as if that's the standard. Yes, they are big and rich and have been the only game in town (in America) for a generation, but there's a whole world of wrestling in other countries and for decades prior to Vince Jr's takeover that does things differently. And even if AEW is launching with ambitious plans, it doesn't mean WWE needs to immediately be brought into the discussion of its launch.

It's like comparing an indie movie to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. different projects on different scales need to be judged separately. When discussing one, you don't have to talk about the other.

>people want WWE's product to be good
correction: WWE Fans want WWE's product to be good. There are people on this board who don't give a single fuck about WWE, and don't watch it.

I'm not going to do that whole "you're not a wrestling fan, you're a wwe fan" but if your first thought to the news of a huge startup promotion is "how will this affect wwe?" it might mean you're just not that interested in non-WWE wrestling or non-WWE conversations.

>people want the wrestling industry in general to be good
and the wrestling industry can still be good, even if WWE gets richer and even creatively worse.

There is a really bad mindset in wrestling fans that came from the days of the MNW: they think there has to be a "winner" and a "loser" when it comes to wrestling promotions. There's a fixation on which promotion *has to* be in first place, instead of just... i dunno... watching and enjoying different American TV wrestling shows?

People could actually watch MLW and Impact but not ROH and WWE, or ROH and DDT but nothing else, or Hoodslam & All Japan exclusively without fixating on "but what does this mean for their competition?"
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WrestlingTheSport - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:25:59 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6197878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197853

I like how you ask who cares, then immediately show that you care.
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Jun Akiyama - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:46:42 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6197887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I guess try to enjoy MLW, Impact, ROH, PWG and others of that level this year because between AEW, NJPW and WWE there is not going to be much left for the smaller promotions. I expect companies like MLW and Impact to stay active but I also expect them to have a very different, smaller and less talented roster by 2020.
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:15:03 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197887
>MLW, Impact, ROH, PWG and others of that level
ROH needs to be in the AEW, NJPW and WWE conversation. Until actual numbers get confirmed, ROH is still bigger than AEW. They have a good stable TV presence and live event strategy... for now. We'll see how they do *without* the Elite as draws, especially going into the MSG show.

>I expect companies like MLW and Impact to stay active but I also expect them to have a very different, smaller and less talented roster by 2020.
MLW seems like it's going to grow throughout 2019: they have a seemingly good and growing relationship with their TV provider, a smart digital strategy with the free youtube replay and they're tapping into the hispanic/lucha market like others are not.

I worry about Impact more than anyone. Anthem is still paying off the debts that Dixie acquired and if they cannot get a profitable USA TV deal, I don't know how they can stay afloat, especially when Ed Norholm has been upfront about Anthem considering shutting the whole thing down after Jarrett got fired.
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Kerry Von Erich - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 13:49:43 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6197914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197854
>correction: WWE Fans want WWE's product to be good. There are people on this board who don't give a single fuck about WWE, and don't watch it.
What a bad take. Everyone in the wrestling business wants WWE to be good. The #2 promotion (whatever that is) isn't going to make any more money than the WWE. The workers want some leverage as well. This is how wrestling made so much money in the attitude era. Just like WWE had competing bids drive up the price for their TV show, workers had competing feds raising the salaries of talent. If WWE tanks, so do workers salaries. If workers can't make good money in wrestling, they'll find something else...
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KAGETORA - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:02:23 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Im going to die laughing when Cody and the Bucks start booking themselves to win numerous titles

and people will defend that shit
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:05:31 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197914
>The workers want some leverage as well.
WWE doesn't need to be good for wrestlers to have leverage. Other companies just have to be stable and offer incentives in terms of money, benefits, time off, royalties, and/or creative freedom.

>This is how wrestling made so much money in the attitude era.
big money started to come into play because of Turner & WCW. WWF didn't need to be good in order for guys to get paid.
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Jun Akiyama - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:15:07 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6197940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197896
MLW isn't going to be doing shit if AEW, WWE and NJPW sign up all their talent.
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:18:20 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197940
i don't know if AEW, WWE or NJPW are in any rush to lock up LA Park, Low Ki and Teddy Hart
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FlashLightning - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:22:35 EST ID:SpL1EOtc No.6197949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197768
I now wonder if Jamie Kellner is still the head of Turner Broadcasting.

If this is anywhere close to possible, where would they land? TBS is mostly comedy, and TNT is drama. Opposite sides of the same coin.
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Mo - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:27:17 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6197953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197940
>MLW isn't going to be doing shit if AEW, WWE and NJPW sign up all their talent.
MLW has exclusive contracts. AEW/WWE/NJPW can't sign up all their talent.

Their contracts basically work like TNA's, where they're technically contracted to MLW, but are still allowed to take bookings from other promotions (as long as MLW approves them).
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Jun Akiyama - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:28:42 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6197955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197943
Yeah I guess MLW will have to put all its in eggs in the Teddy Hart basket and Impact will have to do the same with Johnny Mundo. The rosters are going to be grim.
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El Hijo Del Tirantes - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:29:27 EST ID:SX552ZUb No.6197956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197071
I believe that his friend want to say that cody is crazy and have a god complex. Even on that scenario at least he is trying to build something. Kanye is just nuts and is not delivering nothing but passable music bc he knows that he is on a level where he can even fart in a microphone and people will consume that shit. More like Kanye is the Vinnie Mac of hip hop.
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Mo - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:31:57 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6197959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197949
It's been rumored for a bit that TBS might drop the comedy format. Turner also owns TruTV, so they may shift all their comedy focus there.
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:33:16 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197955
you say that like Teddy Hart and Johnny Mundo are bad
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:36:16 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6197963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197959
>It's been rumored for a bit that TBS might drop the comedy format
but what will this mean for Conan?!

>Turner also owns TruTV
TruTV was one of the stations that Impact was supposedly negotiating with
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Farooq - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:44:22 EST ID:c2K+GtVC No.6197968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197963
Conan's changing his show. Gonna be a half-hour. Probably will be less funny than before.
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:47:03 EST ID:oBoI/UZ6 No.6197969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197963
>but what will this mean for Conan?!
Beats me, but he is coming back later this month, and eventually all of his shows will be on his Youtube channel, which sounds insane. His podcast is pretty OK, as well.
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Farooq - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:50:37 EST ID:c2K+GtVC No.6197971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197969
>eventually all of his shows will be on his Youtube channel

Pretty sure he said there's gonna be a whole new site with all his shows on it.
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KAGETORA - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:15:05 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6197994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They are probably better off either creating their own Network like WWE Network/NJPW World or streaming on Youtube / Twitch

Television is living on borrowed time. The only reason things havent moved to all digital is because of all these old ass CEO's and shit who are desperate to keep things the way they are. They know if it goes to streaming, they are out of jobs
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:30:29 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6198006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197994
you couldn't be more wrong about all of that

>They are probably better off either creating their own Network like WWE Network/NJPW World
what's the price point? how much new content do they need to produce every month? how many subscribers do they need to break even?

>or streaming on Youtube / Twitch
how much ad revenue do these platforms bring in? does it offer more than a rights fee from cable TV? Pop TV was paying a million dollars for Impact, name a youtube channel that brings in more than that and can pay a staff of producers, wrestlers, production crew and marketers.

>The only reason things havent moved to all digital is because of all these old ass CEO's and shit who are desperate to keep things the way they are.
flat no. Cable is slowly going away but not that fast and the internet cannot generate the same revenue as cable.

literally look at meltz's notes from last week:
> Streaming is way behind in Japan from the U.S., as New Japan World has about 60,000 Japanese subscribers and for Japan, that is a monster number, because culturally they haven’t been as quick to embrace the paid subscription model.
>Impact had a Twitch show on 12/14 from Dayton. Twitch had 600 to 800 viewers throughout the show.
>there is no timetable as to when AEW would start, and really, without a significant television deal, it would be very difficult to impossible to start, and plenty of people with money and names have tried to get pro wrestling television in recent years with no luck.
>If they don’t get a significant television deal, both in terms of exposure, and enough revenue to where they can run a business without going deep in the red, then the reality is that they won’t make it.
>To the credit of the guys behind AEW, the usage of social media to have a great run in selling T-shirts and actually selling out the Sears Center instantly, and really, selling out Madison Square Garden quickly (which WWE still hasn’t done for its traditional day after Christmas show). But selling 10,000 or even 15,000 tickets or hundreds of thousands of T-shirts at Hot Topic is very different from drawing 1 million viewers or more per week, a figure a monster company like UFC now rarely tops and that nationally broadcast NBA and Baseball games often can’t hit.
>> And in a changing world, drawing big numbers to television gets more difficult by the day for established traditional shows in a world where people live by patterns. Starting with a new product in an already overexposed industry is even tougher. Producing a great product isn’t easy. Having a great product is no guarantee people will watch. But having a vehicle and having stars that can break through and marketing and producing them always has a chance. And looking at everyone from WWE to UFC to Impact to Bellator, which had that exposure, tells you just how difficult that really is.
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Vader - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:59:36 EST ID:wwKg1orB No.6198023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They better have a stacked roster otherwise this is going nowhere
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FlashLightning - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:54:37 EST ID:SpL1EOtc No.6198058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197959
I kind of forgot about TruTv. They pretty much have a diverse line up of shows outside of marathons of Impractical Jokers and The Carbonaro Effect.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:12:23 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6198065 Report Quick Reply
>>6198058
I'm Sorry is a pretty underrated comedy. Also been meaning to watch Those Who Can't and At Home with Amy Sedaris.
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Neko Nitta - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:12:34 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6198066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not interested in another weekly show.
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Cheerleader Melissa - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:14:47 EST ID:0jdy5O7U No.6198067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope it works out for them, but realistically I barely watch Impact and MLW so "Our guys and some indie guys (featuring Cody And The Bucks)" won't get to the front of the line any more than the other guys. I still got tons of lucha each week to watch.
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The Machine - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:15:29 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.6198068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198058

WTF is it with Turner owned stations and marathons of 2 shows every day?
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Nick Papagiorgio - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:50:12 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6198086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197768
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Vince Russo - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:57:14 EST ID:nvb31/+n No.6198091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bro why does people think and say AEW isn't trying to compete with WWE then why hold a rally where a SDL is taking place? Why is Tonga doing shit like block parties near WWE? Why was the MSG sell out such an important thing to brag/hype about? Why are they making up shitty WWE contract offers??

Like of course they want to compete with WWE.
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Bushwhacker Butch - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:07:49 EST ID:b/6yrda6 No.6198095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198091
Covering their asses. If it goes badly, they can play the "they were never trying to compete" card and if it goes well, they can circlejerk over AEW fighting the big bad WWE.
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Lita - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:09:03 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6198097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198091
Because TNA got squashed like bugs when they tried to compete with WWE
And what you described is not competing with WWE
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MEN's Teioh - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:17:48 EST ID:9P2jdKq5 No.6198102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198086
Sounds like Sean Ross is being a jealous bitch again
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KAGETORA - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:50:40 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6198117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198091
MSG only sold out because it had the NJPW name attached to it. People are going there to see New Japan, certainly not ROH
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Vine - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:52:55 EST ID:omjAWxe6 No.6198120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198091
>Why are they making up shitty WWE contract offers??
Expand on this please.
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Penny Banner - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:02:42 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6198129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198117

This and more specifically, they bought tickets thinking they were getting The Young Bucks, Cody, and Kenny along with NJPW. The tickets are already sold, but I'd be upset if I had to watch Beer City Brawler, Bubba Ray and Flip Gordon in prominent matches.
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Chase Owens - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:37:30 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6198146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On the way home from work was buying my usual 1.75l of Costco Vodka, clerk asked about my Pentagon jr hat, then he asked if I had heard about this. So at least somebody's heard about it.
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Papaya - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:49:18 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6198152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198058
>They pretty much have a diverse line up of shows outside of marathons of Impractical Jokers and The Carbonaro Effect.
I used to work on a TruTV show (not gonna say which, but we ran 2017-2018 and were officially cancelled a few months ago, so it's kinda obvious). Impractical Jokers is basically the only show TruTV has. Plus, because IJ is on constantly, the Impractical Jokers shitty cult of fan immediately shit on every other show, because it's taking airtime away from Impractical Jokers. We were forced to do all kinds of promotional shit with them to try and carry over their audience to our show, but their fans ONLY want to watch Impractical Jokers. They're insane. Go on the TruTV Facebook or Twitter page and look at the replies to non-IJ content. It's just lunatics begging for more IJ spinoffs.
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Penny Banner - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 19:54:30 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6198155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198152

Are you Chris Gethard?

Btw, I gotta support IJ because it's comfy and my guy Q is on there. Army Ants represent.
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Atlantis - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:17:36 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6198166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Britt Baker has signed with All Elite Wrestling.

>Dave Meltzer has confirmed that Baker, 27, has signed with AEW. In the last year, she has worked for promotions such as Stardom, RISE, Shimmer and ROH. She also was an alternate for the Mae Young Classic and worked an NXT taping recently.

>She was also part of the All In event in September where she competed in a fatal four way that also had Tessa Blanchard (who won the match), Madison Rayne (who has now signed with ROH) and Chelsea Green (who has signed with WWE).

>Baker’s signing comes as AEW is continuing to take formative steps in establishing itself as a new promotion.

>It is already known that Cody Rhodes and The Young Bucks will have executive vice president roles within the organization. Meltzer is also reporting that Brandi Rhodes will be the key person when it comes to the women. Dana Massie, who is key to the Young Bucks merchandise business, will also be key in the merchandise for AEW.

>Rhodes, Brandi, the Bucks and Massie recently posed together in a photo, signing their contracts with the promotion.
https://www.f4wonline.com/news/britt-baker-signs-all-elite-wrestling-273676
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Silver King - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:25:10 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6198169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198152
I really dislike that show because it's the show that gets put on at family get-togethers, something mildly funny and inoffensive. And it's like, compelling enough to watch that I can't ignore it, but while watching I just can't stop thinking about how little I'm enjoying it
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Silver King - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:26:45 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6198171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198166
>Brandi Rhodes will be the key person when it comes to the women.

..................why
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Papaya - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:29:51 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6198174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198155
I didn't say I hosted the damn show, I just worked there.
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Lena Yada - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:31:34 EST ID:SPCC+l2r No.6198175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198166
>Womenshits
all over before it even began.
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Penny Banner - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:31:54 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6198176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198174

I was joking fam.
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Chase Owens - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:32:20 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6198177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198171
yeah I was thinking that too
maybe as long as she's a voice to say "I've worked matches and stuff so here's a logistical issue you might not think of, actual profession boss" then that's fine but The Guy's Girlfriend rarely works well in the long run in basically anything.
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Big Dick Dudley - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:48:40 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6198184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198166
>>Brandi Rhodes will be the key person when it comes to the women.


Reminder that Brandi Rhodes is absolute trash and hasnt been getting any better. Nepotism at its finest
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Jamie Noble - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:02:51 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6198194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope Brandi is more of a producer/booker since she is fuck awful in the ring.
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Bobo Brazil - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:08:26 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6198199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198184
I think that means "in charge of the girls and having control over the general direction of women's division" and not "the main event of the women's division".
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KC Cloudy Day - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:31:02 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6198211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198199
that doesn't sound much better
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Killer Kowalski - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:36:59 EST ID:G5mIo1Df No.6198214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198211
Hopefully she books better than she cooks.
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Togi Makabe - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:45:13 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6198218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6198166
Figured Britt was an obvious one, if WWE wasn't gonna take her. The only other one that might be obvious, that is if WWE doesn't sign her, is Penelope Ford. Though I don't know if the Elite guys will have as much interest in her now that Janela and her split.
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Irwin R. Schyster - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:09:37 EST ID:3LmwXdH6 No.6198231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE is going to go out of business. Go AEW!
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Frightmare - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 23:05:54 EST ID:pmP89w5U No.6198253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6198231
>go AEW!
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Bobo Brazil - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 04:42:20 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6198310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198091
>then why hold a rally where a SDL is taking place?
In Jacksonville, Florida? The home of their head office? GEE I WONDER WHY?
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Hikari Minami - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 09:48:02 EST ID:dVvsHXyz No.6198363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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MAYBE
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Makoto - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:02:01 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6198386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone else think that "AEW" does not role off the tongue very well? It sounds like. Having two vowels smushed together like that bothers me.
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Togi Makabe - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:06:04 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6198391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198386
It's seems fine to me. Lot better than WWE. Way too many syllables, look how much people like Kurt Angle struggle to say it in a promo.
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Berlyn - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:08:59 EST ID:hHlOW4K9 No.6198394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198391
People need to just do what Bret Hart did: slow down, say "the," then say each letter as clearly as possible. It might sound funny and make no sense (the WCW) but he never said that "dubbadub E" shit half the wrestlers do.
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Zardoz - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:54 EST ID:W5DM9sAK No.6198405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198386
Just call it All Elite.
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Chase Owens - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 13:20:28 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6198449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198386
yeah neither AyyEEdubyou nor Allah-leet sound very catchy
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Atlantis - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:24:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6198477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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KC Cloudy Day - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:27:49 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6198480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198477
>rovert

Stop giving this geek attention
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Hamuko Hoshi - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:39:42 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6198490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198477
>rovert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfu39kzXTTQ
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Sunny - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:49:15 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6198495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198449
>Allah-leet
For chanting it would be ALL-E-LEET

At least that's the best way to do it, maybe they'll chant AYY EEEE DUBYA but that would sound terrible
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Togi Makabe - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:50:26 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6198497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Skinner - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 15:04:19 EST ID:3ayx20MU No.6198502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198477
I don't give 3 fucks about Rovert (or Meltzer etc) but it's funny when he says stuff everyone shits on him but he's just as accurate as anyone else.
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Atlantis - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 15:07:22 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6198503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198502
he's obsessive and if the stories about him stalking becky lynch are true, that's hilarious. BUT he clearly is connected to some kind of twitter DM gossip and he loves to parrot it, so it's fun to check out his page for all the dirt. he definitely got ahold of roh dirt in the past too.

I can't remember the last time he said something egregiously wrong -- and I'm keeping my eye on his most recent claims that Impact is facing a "fork in the road" in March. whatever that means.
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 15:08:04 EST ID:tn184EeO No.6198504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198495

All Elite is probably going to be the go-to chant. It's easy enough
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KC Cloudy Day - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 15:21:27 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6198508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198386
the fans are gonna chant AYY EEE DUB AYY EEE DUB
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Sunny - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 15:37:09 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6198517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198497
>Stephbrandie McRhodes
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Extreme Tiger - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:51:05 EST ID:pjZle1B0 No.6198571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198504
Or they will use the "The Elite, The, The, Elite" chant for the whole promotion.
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She Nay Nay - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:04:31 EST ID:M+4Be14c No.6198579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197768
>rajah.com still exists
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Jamie Noble - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:22:33 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6198589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198571
I thought it was "be elite."
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Gedo - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:31:28 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6198594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6198497
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DJ Hyde - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:57:12 EST ID:hj11i0MX No.6198603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198171

As long as she doesn't turn into Stephanie.
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Big Dick Dudley - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:02:41 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6198604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198497
How cute, she thinks shes actually worth something in the wrestling industry

Cant wrestle

Cant talk

Married into the business

Nepotism giving her anything she wants
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Extreme Tiger - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:03:48 EST ID:pjZle1B0 No.6198605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198589

Might be, fucked if I can tell.
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Atlantis - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:14:29 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6198611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Ax - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:22:57 EST ID:/xss1Gjk No.6198618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrhRzxoFH-4
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:33:18 EST ID:yypNZRct No.6198621 Report Quick Reply
>>6198611
Well he was on the money there
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Nevaeh - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:49:33 EST ID:X4UarrFy No.6198635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198611
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
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Charlie Haas - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:31:43 EST ID:s9GAaDkv No.6198654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What are the chances they write him a blank check to join their roster?
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Attache - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:37:15 EST ID:92QWCM8C No.6198655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198654
Low. By the time they're ready to go they'll be able to get him for a blanket and a warm meal.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:37:26 EST ID:yypNZRct No.6198656 Report Quick Reply
>>6198654
I would think even they know that unless he's motivated to come back and really make a go of it (which he doesn't seem to be), it wouldn't be worth the low return on investment.
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Octagón - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:41:10 EST ID:Ue4rbUhC No.6198659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198654
His wife's a bigger draw.
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Terry Funk - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:50:07 EST ID:i/vMZ8oL No.6198667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198654
You'd think with all the mma training he's been doing for like 3 years now he'd look a bit fitter you know maybe atleast have abs. He looks like someone who's only been doing light cardio 3 days a week for 3 months rather than any serious training for years.
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Extreme Tiger - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:53:36 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6198669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I worry for independent wrestling.

I think that the concept of indie promotions being truly independent, and truly embodying the spirit of Punk Rock (True Punk Rock, not that bullshit lie that Jim Smallman promotes PROGRESS as), is going to go away.

It was bad enough to have WWE constantly intruding, but now we have AEW. I think we're gonna see a lot of indies start pairing up with the likes of WWE, ROH and AEW. I hate to say that, but I don't see it happening any other way. There's just too many major companies. As soon as anyone gets any buzz, those promotions are going to be fighting each other to sign them right away.

I hope that AEW will allow guys to work indies. It could be the one company that actually gives a shit about the scene. It could be a bonus to signing with AEW over WWE or ROH. Like, if you work AEW, you can work anywhere you want as long as it doesn't interfere with AEW's dates, and as long as it's not WWE or ROH since they're the competition. With the Young Bucks having such a strong connection to the indie scene, you'd think they'd allow that. If AEW is gonna be yet another TV Wrestling company to sign everyone up from the indie scene, leaving other promotions to die, then I'm gonna be on the "Fuck The Young Bucks" wagon that everyone else has been on.
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The Great Khali - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:58:57 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6198673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198669

Don't be so dramatic. There will always be new, young wrestlers needing places to work and there will always be a small company around to give them the opportunity. If these guys end up getting promoted on TV or on a streaming show and get to perform in front of bigger audiences, that's best for everyone.
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Extreme Tiger - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:11:02 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6198682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198673

I couldn't give a shit less about AEW's success. I want strong indies.

The indie scene has been diminished constantly ever since WWE started intruding with more frequency in 2011. The indies have survived in spite of them. When you now have two companies doing the same thing, it's going to be even tougher. Especially when you consider that these companies are competing against each other. For years, WWE has signed these guys, but they'd usually give them a year or two to hone their craft before moving in on the signing. They won't have this luxury anymore. Guys aren't even going to have that span of time because someone is going to want to sign them before it's too late. The indies are going to be left with the scraps. No one on the scene will truly be able to be a megastar like Danielson, Nigel, Hero, etc. because they'll be signed before they can produce a good body of work.

What you're basically saying is "Don't worry. The indie scene will survive because guys will always step up." I want more than survival. I want them to thrive. I want top-notch ROH 2006 tier quality. Tired of the indie scene being everyone's little bitch.
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2 Tuff Tony - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:18:51 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6198687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198654
Depends how much money they've got.

If AEW genuinely wants to compete with WWE, that's only going to happen if they scoop up actual big names casual audiences know, like CM Punk, Batista, Goldberg, etc. They're not going to bring in WWE's audience with a bunch of indie guys they've never heard of.

Casual fans and smarks have been talking about Punk since he left. If AEW signed him, it would definitely make headlines.
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Sirelda - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:25:56 EST ID:pmP89w5U No.6198694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198667
>abs = fitness

This is not inherently true Vince
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Ace Steel - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:38:33 EST ID:S9+zyNNU No.6198701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6198694
Abs dont make the man
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Rikishi - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:21:20 EST ID:bGUkRD0H No.6198720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198701
DC and Keith Lee should be a tag team
and fight Heavy Machinery
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Muhammad Hassan - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:48:24 EST ID:8wB6SdxZ No.6198729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198667
Show muscles =\= fitness
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KAGETORA - Thu, 03 Jan 2019 23:45:47 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6198791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198729
Only queers like Vince McMahon think bodybuilder bodies are indicative of strength
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Tank Toland - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 00:45:41 EST ID:HjRcAeU0 No.6198809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198701
I want to rub and kiss DC's belly while he's sucking on them Popeye's
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AKIRA - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 06:39:39 EST ID:8D8rWYQt No.6199004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6198791
It dates back to before Vincent K. McMahon but not to before homosexuality. And while Vince has certainly pushed the idea, gays still come in all shapes and sizes, pun intended.

After the turn of the last century, print advertising, movies, and eventually television had more and more and more impact on the popular accepted standards of masculinity and feminine beauty. Johnny Weissmuller and the producers of the first Tarzan films are more guilty than wrestling promoters of the time of pushing and popularizing a look, and judging by the quality of The Rock's movies versus the size of his paychecks, I'd say Hollywood is still at least as big a culprit as WWE, if not bigger. We can't really know if Vince even commits as hard to Hulk Hogan if Hogan wasn't on the silver screen towering over a ripped-up Rocky Balboa.

From Weissmuller and Charles Atlas to Stallone and Schwarzenegger to The Rock and Jhon Cean, the mentality that muscles equal manliness has been the zeitgeist of the last 100 years and isn't going away. Chris Pratt was a schlubby funny guy, Guardians blew up, and he's on the cover of Men's Fitness the next month. Blame Joe Shuster and Jack Kirby and Jim Lee and Rob Liefield. Blame Bowflex infomercials. And blame Vince too, but recognize that he's just a small part of a bigger thing that isn't going away easily.
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Atsushi Kotoge - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 07:10:23 EST ID:THYFZ44J No.6199045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6198791
Then how could Lex Luger powerslam Yokozuna when no one else on the roster could even come close?
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Ring Ryda Red - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 07:19:50 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6199061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199045
Tatanka tried and caught a big leg for his troubles
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AKIRA - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 09:16:44 EST ID:8D8rWYQt No.6199134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199045
That was the power of Americana.
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Big John Gaburik - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:09:35 EST ID:67ZrIBBL No.6199178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198497
Since when did she become black?
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Zelda The Brain - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:23:25 EST ID:X4UarrFy No.6199197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199178
Since she was born?
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Minori Makiba - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:49:40 EST ID:ay4T8hnA No.6199207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198701
goddamn DC is so thicc
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Christian - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:24:56 EST ID:S3PIn8fG No.6199317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The name of this company sounds so retarded

Ayyy-W
AE DUB

like why
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Kevin Nash - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:32:23 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6199324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Cody is going to be the face of this promotion after that garbage match at WK

into the trash this promotion goes
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Atsushi Kotoge - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:29:27 EST ID:THYFZ44J No.6199353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199317
>Wrestler comes out
>Theme music doesn't start
>Henry Winkler hits the production truck
He'd be the best GM ever.
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Ric Flair - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:30:50 EST ID:2z20etJG No.6199355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199317
Just call it All Elite you whiny baby.
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Wifebeater - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:31:22 EST ID:MQCOkdji No.6199356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199353
General Manager Fonzie would be mostly great
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Zelda The Brain - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:42:35 EST ID:X4UarrFy No.6199363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199317
>All-E-lite
Wow that was hard.
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Bo Dupp - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:56:49 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6199370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199317
Imagine being this salty over The Elite existing.
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Arnold Skaaland - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 18:04:00 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6199374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199317
>>6199363

All E-lite All All Elite

That's basically the same Elite chant they have going right now
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Chris Benoit - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 18:46:39 EST ID:y73oDH6a No.6199395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199356
Not like the Fonz never did wrasslin'.
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Christina Von Eerie - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 19:13:40 EST ID:DgXYk514 No.6199415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199317
Yeah, because

DUB DUB E

Was such a smart idea for chants.
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Tomko - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 19:45:55 EST ID:rDVsJxRz No.6199430 Report Quick Reply
>>6199415

chanting the name of the promotion you're watching was always fucking retarded
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Stan Lane - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:35:49 EST ID:ljrru5B8 No.6199439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have this weird gut feeling like the bucks and cody will go over...like a lot
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Drew Carey - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:39:01 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6199441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199439
This isn't like Jarrett in TNA from 2002 to 2006. The Bucks and Cody are actually over and draw so they should have the belts.
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Stan Lane - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:42:46 EST ID:N5ewRDhl No.6199442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Soon, brothers.
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Byron Saxton - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:48:40 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6199443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199441
>Cody
>over
shut up Brandi
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Chi Chi - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:08:52 EST ID:gLFNjJ1l No.6199447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199441

>cody
>over

Where the fuck is that laughing Nash gif when I need it.
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Michael Cole - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:08:55 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6199448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199441
Ehhh, I think people might be getting sick of the Young Bucks. They've been doing the same shtick for years now.

Obviously that won't matter in AEW though. Anyone that's excited for AEW is probably already a fan of the Bucks and Cody anyway.
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Toshie Uematsu - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:13:02 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6199450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199443
>>6199447
Yeah, everywhere books him because he isn't over.
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Drew Carey - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:13:57 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6199452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199443
>>6199447
Cody is a shit wrestler, but he's undeniably over in the US.
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Britani Knight - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:29:39 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6199456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199447
Cody gets booked everywhere, makes big money and sells lots of Merch

How is he not over
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Isis The Amazon - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:50:04 EST ID:pmP89w5U No.6199501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199447
Nash? Probably in the bargain bin where he belongs
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:28:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>All Elite Wrestling had offered both contracts to Pentagon and Fenix last week. Impact Wrestling said not so fast, and offered the two low six figure numbers per year and would control the outside booking of talent from Impact. Impact would get an obvious cut from these booking dates from outside their company. However, as of yesterday, the Elite tripled the Impact offer to try and land exclusive deals and rights to Pentagon and Fenix. AEW would like to have them at their press conference, along with others in Jacksonville on Tuesday, near Smackdown Live. Pentagon and Fenix will look at the contracts and figure out what deals work for them personally. This is just the beginning for companies starting to lock up talent for their 2019 roster.
https://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wnw-premium/exclusive-while-all-elite-is-securing-talent-bidding-war-begins-for-pentagon-and-fenix
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Dolph Ziggler - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:34:44 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6199530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199528

Wait, I just realized that Penagon and Fenix were signed with IMPACT.

So, IMPACT guys are allowed to work indies? They both have done PWG while under contract.
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:36:12 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199530
>IMPACT guys are allowed to work indies?
it's been that way for awhile
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Dolph Ziggler - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:38:09 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6199532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199531

So is WWE the only company that doesn't allow guys to work indies (except for those they've aligned with)?

If so, this gives me hope that AEW will follow the trend that others do. I'm paranoid about them behaving like WWE and restricting guys.
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Masahiro Chono - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:48:31 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6199534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199532
I think that would be stupid, restricting people outside of their biggest stars when theyre literally nothing fed right now
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The Esperanza - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 02:16:58 EST ID:y2u4pFA4 No.6199538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199448
They need to break up the Young Bucks for a while.
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Superstar Billy Graham - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 03:21:09 EST ID:nPrKbm+6 No.6199547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198611
>in b4 he signs all of them to AEW
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Dolph Ziggler - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 04:06:24 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6199552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199547

>Claudio signing with AEW, effectively freeing him to work indie dates again
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Tito Santana - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 09:19:28 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6199634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199528
Didn't MLW do this storyline last year, while irl they're still under billion year LU contracts or something?

That said a press conference angle with Pentagon wrecking shit would be really cool.
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Jimmy Jacobs - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 10:00:17 EST ID:J6aLKJKh No.6199643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198659
this lmao
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Will o' The Wisp - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 10:23:48 EST ID:EVCGtoEm No.6199649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199532
ROH doesn't either. Yet people still consider ROH an indy fed while it's backed by a huge corporation and has exclusive deals.
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John Cena - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 10:32:18 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6199650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199649
ROH wouldn't let the Bucks and Scurll wrestle at Northeast Wrestlng's Wrestling Under the Stars show so they just showed up, walked through the crowd and hyped up All In. Was annoyed that was the extent of my first time seeing them in person.

I would hope since Cody and the Bucks have a good relationship with that promotion, they'd allow their talent to work NEW shows. ROH has never come around upstate NY except for Lockport near Niagara Falls. So fuck them. I hope no one I want to see goes to the black hole of hype that is ROH.
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Phineas I. Godwinn - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:24:21 EST ID:i/vMZ8oL No.6199660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When im watching a show or movie and someone does a suplex or power bomb instead of saying "oh he's going wwe on his ass" i say "oh hes going AEW on his ass" or "that's some AEW shit right there". Just doing my part to help spread the word.
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Tito Santana - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:37:42 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6199664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So let's read some tea leaves here, if the dirtsheet there is correct in that AEW is going to have a storyline about the Lucha Bros and Impact that puts AEW pretty firmly in the MLW/Impact/AAA orbit of companies rather than the ROH/CMLL/NJPW, assuming ROH keeps anybody working with them
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Dolph Ziggler - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:37:57 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6199666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199649

ROH lets guys do PWG though right? Is that the only promotion they allow?
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Britani Knight - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:42:00 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6199669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199666
As far as I was aware the talent are free to work for other promotions as long as it's not TV and doesn't interfere with their ROH schedule. I may be wrong though
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Vampiro - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:46:46 EST ID:HereF5KN No.6199671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197057

fair point, but Punk and Okada weren't stars yet and

>Christy Hemme
>Burke
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 11:56:30 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199669
>>6199666
There are varying types of ROH contracts.
The low level contracts allow talents to work for indies; I'm not sure how many talents are on those deals though. Jonathan Gresham is the most visible performer on that deal because he still works NOVA Pro, Beyond and the PowerbombTV shows. Scorpion Sky was another b/c he could still work for Joey Ryan's Bar Wrestling.
Flip Gordon and the Kingdom were on those deals but they recently signed the higher level exclusive ROH deals and wrapped up their dates with NEW.

The high level ROH contracts are exclusive for North America. Talents can still do UK/Australia bookings on their own and technically Mexico, but ROH has pushed their guys to not upset the relationship with CMLL. And I wonder if it could affect the UK in the future, if the NJPW-RevPro deal gets stronger.

Working for PWG was a special exception that the Bucks negotiated for themselves. They had the top tier ROH contract which would have blocked them from working PWG but they negotiated the exception and its unclear if ROH will continue to allow that exception for guys like Brody King, Jeff Cobb and Bandido.
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:02:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199676
Should also add that Cody has done press talking about ALL IN and the NWA 70th Anniversary PPV: he had to get special permission from ROH mgmt to work all that out. ALL IN was a one-shot and he needed to drop the title back to Magnus asap because he was never going to start touring with the NWA.

As part of the arrangement, he got "loaned" to a show last month in Puerto Rico; the one where Magnus defended the title against Billy Gunn.
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Duke Droese - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:07:45 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6199680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Corporate ROH is about as unfriendly as non-WWE companies get which I can't see a long-term relationship between them and a company like AEW that has the exact same goals in the US working out
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:09:31 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199528
Court Bauer (sort of) comments on the situation:

>Virtually everything in that blurb (https://twitter.com/fdpodcast69/status/1081538670891581444) is wrong except the LU deal but that’s even wrong on the years. Also, MLW allow talent to be on 99% of promotion’s TV & streaming.

>Wrestling is moving at hyper speed right now which is a lot of fun but at this pace a lot of facts aren’t vetted.https://twitter.com/courtbauer/status/1081552068853354496
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:19:46 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Dave Meltzer mentioned on Wrestling Observer Radio that the AEW rally being held on Jan. 8, the same night as SmackDown, was coincidental. It was just the earliest it could happen after Wrestle Kingdom.

>He also says Double or Nothing is likely happening in April and will likely take place in Las Vegas, Nevada. They expect to outdraw ALL IN.
source: cageside seats
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Michael Cole - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:35:18 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6199688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199530
They've always been allowed to work indies. Since the NWA-TNA days. Where the hell have you been?

Impact's talent is technically exclusive, but they allow talent to supplement their income by taking indie bookings as long as they approve. That's why back in the 2000s, wrestlers like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, etc were in both TNA and ROH. Then TNA suddenly decided their talent can't take ROH bookings anymore (after the RF incident).

They were most strict about outside dates during the Hogan/Bischoff era, and limited guys to only the super tiny local indies (because it was essentially advertisting for TNA).
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Michael Cole - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:41:41 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6199692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197063
>Personally I don't think they would've ever been a true competitor to the WWE
Bischoff insists the reason TNA never took off because Spike never advertised it. TNA had next to no marketing budget themselves and really need Spike to pick up the slack. He said something along the lines of, "If you have a wrestling show with Hulk Hogan, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, Ric Flair, all these big names, and you're only pulling in a million viewers, something is wrong."

It's insane to look back on. I remember marks on Facebook and Youtube commenting on WWE's stuff asking "Where's Jeff Hardy?" "Where's Kurt Angle?" They didn't even know TNA existed.

But also, Bischoff was EP, so of course he'll never blame TNA's issues on shitty booking he signed off on.
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Duke Droese - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:47:29 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6199695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199692
if there's one thing you can rely on it's that every failure in Eric Bischoff's career is someone else's fault
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Tomoka Nakagawa - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:47:40 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6199696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do hope there's some way AEW and TNA can work together. Though I haven't watched TNA in years I do feel like this is a nail in the coffin for them and it's sad to see all that history die. Some form of continuity from one to the other would be good.
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Wahoo McDaniel - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:49:20 EST ID:Et7bpkP9 No.6199698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199692
It could also be the fact that the TNA product at the time was complete and utter garbage and no one wanted to see washed up fucks anymore

but nah, lets blame the marketing
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:50:45 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6199692
>Bischoff insists the reason TNA never took off because Spike never advertised it.

>SpikeTV and TNA Wrestling have unveiled a huge billboard in New York City's Times Square to promote the upcoming Monday 4th January 3-hour LIVE Monday Night "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV. The billboard is located at 1500 Broadway in Times Square. If you are visiting New York City in the next few weeks, be sure to check it out.
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Sean O'Haire - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 12:53:40 EST ID:hCjxCRST No.6199701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199692
That's on Dixie. Spike picked up all those contracts, not TNA. Spike was paying Hogan, Angle, Bischoff and Flair, themselves. I agree that they needed advertising, but in general, it reminds me of Heyman talking about hypothetically booking Impact and he highlighted everything that was wrong with them, by criticizing all of the RVD's, Hogan's, Flairs, and Bischoffs that they had. Look at what's getting the most buzz right now, it's a bunch of Japanese guys and Kenny. Heyman was always forward thinking, Bischoff and Hogan only looked at what worked in the past and tried to do things the same. It was Bischoff that made them leave the impact zone to tour live (Which cost them money). It wasn't just Russo's booking, it was Bischoff and Hogan that decided to book the show around ... 60-year old Hogan. They did more damage than Russo ever did, and I say that as someone who can't stand Russo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXSTkYSJ3z0
This is the Heyman interview in question. Mind you, this was a couple of months after Hogan and Bischoff were brought in, proving that TNA realized quickly how it wasn't going to work. I believe Viacom was willing to meet most of his demands but Dixie nixxed it because he would outrank her.
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Masahiro Chono - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:07:55 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6199706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199699
>Bischoff is full of shit
whodathunk, this is the man that insisted that Death of WCW is absolutely false and bullshit without ever actually reading a single page.
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Lin Bairon - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:16:55 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6199782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199699
One billboard doesn't make up for them being shit at advertising. I live in Nashville and had no idea TNA had a PPV there until three nights before hand. If it were a WWE show, you'd know about it. Billboard everywhere, radio appearances, the works. For TNA there was a billboard on a shitty side of town with just Hulk Hogan on it, and nothing else. No date, no venue. Just an image of Hogan. For reference, Hogan did fuck all at Lockdown.
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Toshie Uematsu - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:25:02 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6199784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199699
I mean, the one and only show that was properly advertised was comfortably their highest ever rating
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Magnus - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:43:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6199797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199782
>If it were a WWE show, you'd know about it.

WWE also has a much larger marketing team with decades of experience.

How big was TNA's publicity department during the Dixie era?
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The Patriot - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 17:16:02 EST ID:47rXDtfH No.6199858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199797
>How big was TNA's publicity department during the Dixie era?

Don West's screamin' range
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Yumiko Inoue - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:03:49 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6199888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199797

Dixie Carter got involved with TNA because she was the head of a marketing and publicity company. It's no excuse. She owned the company five years before Hogan got onboard. If you don't know how to build a street team or to get your wrestlers on local radio, you're just lazy.
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Beulah McGillicutty - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:11:10 EST ID:/LMUJzdn No.6199892 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199528
Wrestlers finally gettin big bread

it feels nice
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Rorschach - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:29:18 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6199902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199528
How does this work with MLW too?
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Byron Saxton - Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:43:23 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6199906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199528
It's a lot of smoke. AEW's pretending to be a big deal when there's zero guarantee of any return to cover the costs of hiring talent, while Impact is still dying a death and likely wouldn't offer big-dollar contracts to a tag team that appeals to a niche audience.

Comparing the two offers, I'd walk away from both, especially with how bad Impact is with actually paying their talent in a timely manner.
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Stacy Carter - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 05:56:27 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6200904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199676

What about IMPACT?

Isn't IMPACT why Eddie Edwards hasn't been in PWG in like forever? It's strange because I know Penta is signed with IMPACT, but he still works PWG and other places like AAW.
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Billy Kidman - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 06:04:28 EST ID:H0DhkjUr No.6200906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199906
>especially with how bad Impact is with actually paying their talent in a timely manner.
I wish I was still living in 2015 too fam
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Bob Sapp - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 06:55:01 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6200919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199797
I live in the South. TNA was literally born in the same town. Go on 102.9, go on 105.9! Those two rock stations use wrestling themes as bumpers constantly. The DJs talk about wrestling on air! It's super easy to say "Hey, we were founded in Nashville ten years ago, we're holding a Pay Per View, we have Sting, Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, and Kurt Angle! Want one of them on a radio station, give away 20 tickets, and give us some pub?"
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Rikidozan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 08:58:23 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6200970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199906
>especially with how bad Impact is with actually paying their talent in a timely manner.
name the last talent that had an issue with getting paid on time
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Chris Sabin - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:14:57 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6200977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200970
Wasn't there that one guy on food stamps working there

Also that woookie who attended as a paid audience member and didn't get paid for ages

And then got paid for not even attending, man I miss that thread it was amazing
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The Rock - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:28:45 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6200981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sADnhR8NyNQ
Posting the latest BTE because it pertains to AEW to an extent, and there's a really cute scene of Okada playing with Matt and Nick's kids.
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Rikidozan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:29:19 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6200982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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RIP
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Stacy Carter - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:32:56 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6200984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200977
That was ages ago, but yeah, that thread was top lel.
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Al Wilson - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:37:42 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6200986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6200982
*kills indie wrestling with daddy's money in your path*
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Stacy Carter - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:49:23 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6200994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200982

How exclusive? Can they work indie dates?
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Mokes - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 10:33:56 EST ID:8hfgqu5h No.6201034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200982
>competitors
When are these doofus feds gonna realize nobody cares about them fighting over second place? Unless they work together WWE will just continue to throw its giant cock around.
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The Dog - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 10:38:16 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6201039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Everyone knows what a monumental, difficult task toppling the WWE would be. They have the history. However, disregard history, and what you have now is a mind-numbing, IQ-sapping TV show that is killing itself.

But let's try being optimistic about AEW. What if they actually do their thing whilst ignoring the WWE? What if, thru their product, proper management, and marketing, they actually begin stealing the audience of the WWE?

I know we will never ever get a Monday Night Wars thing again. However, I believe that with the perfect combination, one can at the very least present a strong challenge to the WWE in its current state.
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Repo Man - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 10:44:17 EST ID:4CWnwFjn No.6201043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200982

Welp, this isn't good. I'm not even sure who's in bigger trouble from this, depending on how things go with the AEW TV deal ROH may have just pissed away some desperately needed exposure. I guess that's the wrestling industry for you, with WWE dominant for so long it's easy to forget they got that way through the incompetence of others, case in point shit like this.
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The Rock - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 10:44:32 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6201044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200986
Vince shouldn't be the only one who gets to.
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The Berzerker - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 11:01:51 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6201057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200982
No he didnt. He said they decided to continue supporting ROH but he never said that they WILL NOT work AT ALL with AEW. There was an implication of that, and he said that it would be better if they all worked together because RevPro would also join up, but he never said NJPW is completely burying AEW forever.
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El Hijo Del Tirantes - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 11:05:01 EST ID:VCV4Znpr No.6201059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198654
He already got a tv contract at beast master i guess, so he being a regular tv face which is something he always wanted since he left wrestling will keep him at home watching TWD and reading some cool comics.
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Chessman - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 11:27:26 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6201071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200982
This ain't a surprise, they won't work with Impact despite Don Callis and they certainly aren't going to work with Cody and Friends' circlejerk promotion.

NJPW knows that they're pretty much drip feeding ROH at this point anyway.
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Jimmy Uso - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 13:14:04 EST ID:IdOCllk4 No.6201118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6197005
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Beulah McGillicutty - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:15:30 EST ID:gXVSLY0L No.6201178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201057
They should work together, AEW with ROH and RevPro and NJPW, make some unified body of different feds like NWA but across the globe, make it one unifying force, like you know, a global force of wrestling of some sorts.
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Rikidozan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:28:59 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201178
what's in it for ROH to work with AEW?
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Jimmy Superfly Snuka - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:39:09 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6201201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201187
stars
consultation from bookers that are at least somewhat competent
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Beulah McGillicutty - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:39:49 EST ID:gXVSLY0L No.6201202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201201
>Stars
>Competent bookers
>Cody and the Bucks
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Jimmy Rave - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:45:57 EST ID:Qhrr1hOX No.6201211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201202
They spent the better part of a year building to a big show using weekly 20 min segments on YT and other social media, leading to them selling out a 10,000 seat arena in 30 mins with a show that completely satisfied their audience and everyone raved about after.
How can you describe that as anything other than competent booking?
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Rikidozan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:49:50 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201211
>completely satisfied their audience and everyone raved about after
[citation needed]

>They spent the better part of a year building to a big show using weekly 20 min segments on YT and other social media, leading to them selling out a 10,000 seat arena in 30 mins
and how many sell outs have they booked since then?
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Jimmy Rave - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:53:56 EST ID:Qhrr1hOX No.6201228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201219
Just because you didn't like All In doesn't mean it didn't completely satisfy the BTE audience. I saw almost no complaints or negativity from their target audience online after All In was done. Their audience was satisfied by what they delivered to them.

>how many sell outs have they booked since then?
How is this even relevant? It's literally one week since their company was founded.
Don't act like Double or Nothing won't also sell out as well. That would be a real foolish hill to die on.
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Wendi Richter - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:10:23 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6201241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201211
Because none of that is booking
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Angel de Oro - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:14:56 EST ID:S/hA6bo4 No.6201245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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24 HOURS
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Jimmy Rave - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:15:01 EST ID:Qhrr1hOX No.6201246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201241
Now this I gotta hear.
Please tell what you think booking is.
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Rikidozan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:19:09 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201246
technically it was promotion

ALL IN was a display of their booking
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Jimmy Rave - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:22:11 EST ID:Qhrr1hOX No.6201259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201253
Expand on this please.
Tell me what you think booking is.
And how what they did was not actually booking.
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Rikidozan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:27:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201259

>Tell me what you think booking is.
the setup of matches?
I didn't say ALL IN was bad, its just the only example of their booking.

BTE and 10 Pounds of Gold and all the social media were promotion for that event. If anything, ROH was responsible for the booking buildup because they used their show to hype up Cody vs Aldis.
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Harlem Bravado - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 20:14:09 EST ID:ZVrO5QZ9 No.6201379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So is the press conference going to be streaming anywhere or is it just something we'll have to wait and hear about from journos who are there?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 20:18:17 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6201383 Report Quick Reply
>>6201379
It'll be on the Being The Elite Youtube page, which we'll show in /wooo/tube 2.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 07-01-2019 20:22:45
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DASH Chisako - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 20:46:34 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Pro Wrestling Sheet has learned Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky aka SoCal Uncensored have inked deals with All Elite Wrestling.

>Sources tell us the group’s signing is expected to be announced at tomorrow’s “Double or Nothing” rally taking place in the parking lot of TIAA Bank Field.

>The rally begins at 5pm ET and streamed live on Being The Elite’s YouTube channel. Same for All Elite Wrestling’s Twitter page, The Young Bucks Facebook page and Brandi Rhodes’ Instagram.

>As we previously reported, Kenny Omega has confirmed he’s taking time away from NJPW. The latest episode of Being the Elite seems to tease he’ll be signing with AEW.
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Doink the Clown - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 20:49:57 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6201413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201408
any word if there's exclusivity on any of these, yet?
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Mt. Fiji - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 20:51:18 EST ID:i2PDpYUR No.6201415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201408
Congrats they signed old dudes
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David Flair - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:05:49 EST ID:Nw2t7Ind No.6201429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201408
I already don’t want to watch whatever this will be
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Ricardo Rodriguez - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:12:10 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6201434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201408
hyped to watch The Young Bucks' brand new promotion, ROH From Last Month
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Doink the Clown - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:18:17 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6201440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201434
if it's ROH From Last Month vs Those Guys Who Work Everywhere (except ROH) it might not be bad
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Bobby The Brain Heenan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:31:54 EST ID:i7KfAH6c No.6201450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201408
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Maven - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:34:29 EST ID:TGlo5uD9 No.6201451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201408
They really should've prepared with some trainees to debut for the fed or something.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:51:10 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6201456 Report Quick Reply
>>6201451
I think eventually AEW will partner with a wrestling school or at least run their own school.
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Hajime Ohara - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:55:23 EST ID:fRkxX2q7 No.6201461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How long until they announce Priscilla Kelly’s signing?
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Bull Buchanan - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:56:17 EST ID:ziwXhU1c No.6201463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201461
they should sign the bloody tampon
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Io Shirai - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 22:32:20 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6201501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201461
pretty sure she is headed to NXT.
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SoCal Val - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 22:39:35 EST ID:dbz9LkHz No.6201512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201501
lol not anymore she ain't
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Tony Atlas - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:13:25 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6201533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201512
AEW should pair her up with Joey Ryan. Not only giant inflatable dicks, but huge walking bloody tampons too.
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Io Shirai - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 01:10:19 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6201600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201512
Becky Lynch, Seth Rollins, Finn Balor, among others did apartment wrestling. Candice Michelle did foot fetish porn, Mickie James did actual porn.

A tampon spot is not going to rule out her WWE run.
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Tank - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 04:16:47 EST ID:5TKMkrDb No.6201647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201600
>Mickie James did actual porn
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Io Shirai - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 04:43:50 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6201652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201647
Google it. That shit's been out there since like 2004ish? I remember finding links in middle school.
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Test - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 04:52:41 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6201655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201652
I think by "actual porn" you'd expect Sunny type shit
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Tank - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 05:18:59 EST ID:5TKMkrDb No.6201662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201652
Like >>6201655 said, if it's just the photo shoot I'm aware of it
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Madison Eagles - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 05:35:25 EST ID:qoIql1PV No.6201669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201662
There are at least 2 shoots, but they're usually bundled into one set.
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Angelina Love - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 05:45:52 EST ID:q2PTa6Zn No.6201672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn’t realize people were thinking about Arby’s this much anymore.
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Headbanger Mosh - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 05:48:09 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6201673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd still lick that hell out of that roast beef vag. All day.
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Johnny Rodz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 06:25:05 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6201677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201662
There is an old porno of a cheerleader fucking a black dude in a locker room that people claim is her, but it's not.
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 06:44:23 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6201686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201246
Promoting an event ≠ booking.
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Madison Eagles - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 06:55:19 EST ID:qoIql1PV No.6201692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201677
According to Limewire, it's either Her, Victoria, Trish or Steph. all the same flick. lol.
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 09:42:13 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Dave on tonight's Observer Radio basically confirmed what he was hinting at earlier: New Japan wants so badly to keep Omega that they're now having second thoughts on not working with AEW. The chances of them working together are now "very good" although not a done deal.

>Dave thinks that Kenny is going to AEW, in case you needed more confirmation. A WWE source told Dave that they really wanted Kenny but indicated it's not going to happen.

>Dave also says that while Jericho's New Japan contract expired they really want to keep him and Jericho would like to stay as well. They want to run Tanahashi/Jericho this year.

>Dave on the AEW deals being signed: "They're big deals". Says that a few of the very top guys like the Bucks and Cody are signing FIVE YEAR deals.

>Dave says the New Japan office found out that Kenny was leaving in that Tokyo Sport article like everyone else did, and they were upset by that.
@trevordame
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:06:55 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
THE KHANS RELEASE STATEMENT ON WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM ALL ELITE WRESTLING
>Ahead of today's rally in Jacksonville, FL All Elite Wrestling sent us the following statement:

SHAD KHAN STATEMENT ON AEW, Tuesday, January 8, 2019
>I am the lead investor, a supporter and a backer of All Elite Wrestling, and I anticipate great things today and into the future for AEW and everyone who has worked passionately on this week’s launch. I know AEW will be welcomed by wrestling fans here in the U.S. and throughout the world who are ready for something new and authentic. AEW will work hard to deliver on that promise.

>As important, I am the father – the proud father – of Tony Khan, who will serve in a leadership role at AEW during the 2019 launch and in the years ahead. Tony will assemble a great team to take AEW over the top, for the benefit of everyone who loves the wrestling industry, while continuing to serve in his current capacities with the Jaguars and Fulham.

>AEW will operate as an organization completely independently from my other interests. It will not deter attention or divert resources from any of my businesses, teams, projects or investments. At the same time, AEW will enjoy the same full commitment I given to everything and everyone in my life – my family and friends, my business and, in recent years, to sports, hospitality and now entertainment.

TONY KHAN STATEMENT ON AEW, Tuesday, January 8, 2019
>Wrestling fans are a community unlike most others. I’ve been a part of this community since I was 7 years old, and I can tell you that wresting fans see the world every day through a special lens. We see wrestling in Hollywood films and tv shows, we see elements of wrestling in the presentation of sports and in the marketing of grandiose star athletes, and we certainly see wrestling in politics.

>The wrestling community is a constant; its members are diverse, we are physically located on all corners of the planet, yet we are constantly connected. Recently, a new family has formed, bonded by love and respect for wresting but armed with a vision and resources that have never before been available to the wrestling community. Our objective is to connect our community closer than ever before through All Elite Wrestling, or AEW.

>AEW does not mean any less of a continued commitment to existing obligations and duties that I have, or my family has, to our business and sports interests. That will never be the case. What’s important is that every individual decision we make as family, whether it’s ownership or investment in a team or property, is 100 percent beneficial to those specific interests. I will always welcome that accountability and responsibility, as nothing is more important than serving our supporters and friends.

>AEW will launch with a roster of the top wrestlers in the world. While they’ll clash in what will be some of the most intense and fast-paced contests ever sanctioned in the squared circle, they’ll also share a common goal: to make this the true golden age, to make this the greatest time ever to be a wrestling fan. Likewise, as a business, by treating our wrestlers with respect and warmth, we also seek to make this the golden age for the performers themselves.

>I urge everyone who believes in what we’re doing, or wants to believe in dreams coming true, to support AEW by spreading the word and passing the wrestling bug onto someone else. My message: Get in on the ground floor with AEW today and help lead our movement to grow the wrestling community and ensure that the voices of the wrestling fans, their creative minds and their remarkable ideas, will always be heard.
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Ricardo Rodriguez - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:29:20 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6201747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Omega doing this LeBron James The Decision shit is real goofy
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Terra Ryzin - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:39:07 EST ID:H0DhkjUr No.6201755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder if they'll have an off-season? If rumours are to be believed then they will have a TV deal, but it seems risky to start putting out 50 weeks of content off the bat. People might get burned out fast
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Bullfight Sora - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:55:34 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6201770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201736
What a mark.
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Tank - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 11:35:14 EST ID:5TKMkrDb No.6201790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201044
Yeah the indie scene is already fucked as it is. We might as well give a shot at the "what if there was another company with a millionaire behind it" thing, fuck it
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Goldust - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:25:22 EST ID:y2u4pFA4 No.6201835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6200986
Aside from GCW, the indie scene has sucked for a couple of years now anyway.
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Bullfight Sora - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:28:51 EST ID:iNnC4hm7 No.6201840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201790
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Wade Barrett - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:29:28 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6201841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201724
I'm waiting for the swerve of the century and Kenny Omega ends up signing with 魔界
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Michael Nakazawa - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:30:00 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6201843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201840
>Jeff Jarrett
>having anything more than zero dimes, let alone dimes to fund a wrestling company


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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:35:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201843
Jarrett is loaded. He is such a brilliant carnie because he never spends any of his *own* money.
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Michael Nakazawa - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:40:33 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6201857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201851
You've got a point there.
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Maven - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 14:27:32 EST ID:TGlo5uD9 No.6201922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201841
The real swerve of the century is when he returns to DDT as a member of DAMNATION next month in Sumo Hall.
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 14:46:16 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>spend money to make money
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Michael Nakazawa - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 14:47:35 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6201929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201928
>the same jet the jags fly their first round picks on

That statement made me more angry than it should have.
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The Warlord - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:16:16 EST ID:2TXSmINF No.6201951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201928
>prowrestlingtees
God I fucking hate them. I made one order back in October, half the shirts were fucked up and it took OVER A MONTH for them to fix it because they literally stopped responding to me (and no, I wasn’t an asshole so there was no reason for them to do that). I wish NJPW had another US supplier.
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Super Hentai - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:25:40 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6201954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201951

How were the shirts messed up? Did they ship the wrong shirts?
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David Flair - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:37:58 EST ID:Nw2t7Ind No.6201959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201951
you kinda sound like an asshole tbh
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:42:39 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6201963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The Ultimate Money Mark himself just arrived.

https://twitter.com/attitanium/status/1082734020352532480
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:49:35 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201963
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:50:11 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6201967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201966
>Alex is supposedly going to be an AEW announcer. Him, JR and Excalibur are muted to be the crew.
source: rovert
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:51:21 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6201968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201966
Oh god, no. If Conrad's involved in any kind of full time broadcaster role in AEW, I'm out. I can't stand him.
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The Red Rooster - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:57:04 EST ID:lwx/eJlM No.6201970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201954
One the print was crooked, one there was a print error that made a dark mark on it, one the print was super cracked/distressed, and then I got an LIJ and Evil shirt that were both the wrong color. The Evil shirt, which was supposed to be purple, was fucking cobalt blue. And to top it all off, they then said that they COULDN’T print it in the correct color? Why the fuck are you selling them, then?

>>6201959
Only because of all the absolute bullshit I went through, man. Maybe I should finally go through with posting the whole saga on Twitter or something. Just fucking bothers me that they gave me piss poor customer service with zero repercussions.
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Excalibur - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:59:05 EST ID:S3PIn8fG No.6201971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I present a story from a fan and his girlfriend who was at the rally earlier today
Warned
User has been warned
Warned by: Celt
Message: Unless this guy posts a source for this, don't buy it for a moment
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Damien Demento - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:01:58 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6201973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201971
Almost certainly bullshit. Elite fans don't have girlfriends and wouldn't dare approach a woman
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:02:50 EST ID:oX940ptu No.6201974 Report Quick Reply
>>6201971
Unless you post a credible source on that image I'm just going to delete it because reads like super obvious bullshit designed to shit on AEW marks
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:03:15 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6201975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201971
I don't think this happened but I wouldn't put it past BC marks. They are all virgins.
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:05:39 EST ID:TPuYAoNt No.6201978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In other news, I went to plebbit for the first time in forever & looked at the circle jerk there and jesus, this thing might actually take off because those betas will throw money at them for no reason at all.
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David Flair - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:06:09 EST ID:Nw2t7Ind No.6201979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201971
>elite fanboys are typical incel rapists
No one should be surprised
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Damien Demento - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:10:50 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6201980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201951
RIP Yottsume. I wish I'd ordered more stuff from him before he got murdered by the Yakuza.
The official NJPW shirts he sold were so fucking nice compared to the shit that PWT sells. My Shinsuke shirt is legit one of the comfiest tees I've ever bought and the print hasn't worn off at all.
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Mitch Ryder - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:16:00 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6201983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201971
Do people really act like that (talking about the guys towards the girl)?
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Lex Luger - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:25:23 EST ID:6MaQFSmH No.6201988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201747
NJPW doesn't want to lose their top gaijin star. ROH doesn't want to lose their main claim to legitimacy as a company. WWE loves taking other people's toys. AEW has Kenny's friends and a money smark (plus his billionaire dad, from the looks of it) bankrolling the promotion. Kenny knows he's worth a lot of money to a lot of people.

Doing the Decision shit makes him worth more money, because AEW, WWE and NJPW are all now having to play against each other. It also potentially makes NJPW work with AEW, which would be a huge money move.

For all people shit on the Elite dudes for being flippy marks or whatever, they have the Kevin Nash money and miles ethos down to a science.
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:26:41 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6201989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what time is the AEW rally and will it be streamed here?
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Mike Tenay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:27:40 EST ID:mPg+sg1x No.6201990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201983
>hurr i believe literally everything i read on the internet
Hey did you know that if you like wrestling you have to give me $10?
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Mitch Ryder - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:30:16 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6201991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201990
aw man, What's your paypal?
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:30:47 EST ID:wfgzIc7W No.6201992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Am I the only one that hates the name? Makes it seem like the Elite are the only important guys in the company.
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:31:25 EST ID:TPuYAoNt No.6201993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201991
It's also penis inspection day!
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Zardoz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:32:46 EST ID:rxIFjo4g No.6201994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First big PPV will be headlined by Goldberg vs. Hangman Page in a submission match.
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Akeem - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:42:10 EST ID:3+wb16LX No.6201996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201992
At the end of the day, they may very well be. They would need to make some big splash signings to deflect that criticism, and Kenny doesn't count. How many big names are out there that could make that kind of splash? Punk? Dwayne?
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:44:50 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6201997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201996

>How many big names are out there

GOT ONE RIGHT HERE BABY
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Savannah - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:45:36 EST ID:txkSbKoG No.6201998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201978
go back to plebbit, mark. Everyone knows plebbit is e-drone central. This is a pro AEW board now and forever
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Lex Luger - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:47:31 EST ID:6MaQFSmH No.6202001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201996
Goldberg?
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:48:20 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Apparently there's been a HORRID BASTARD sighting in Jacksonville...

https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=123049
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Godiva - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:49:59 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6202003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/GIFSkull/status/1082741042921627648?s=09
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Headbanger Mosh - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 16:55:09 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6202007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dug his return promo but Goldberg makes me go meh. This whole thing gives me "Turner/Hogan press conference at Disney" vibes when Hogan went to WCW.

Why isn't this on in the tubes?
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The Warlord - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:00:54 EST ID:2TXSmINF No.6202009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>stream quality is crap, goes down at 4:59
Off to a great start, I see.
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Jamie Knoble - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:03:18 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6202012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
are they going to have a tank and invade smackdown
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early90spants !3JaKKiV9jI - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:03:45 EST ID:7+QsKrXD No.6202013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That Arby's story was posted in a private Facebook group I'm in. He since updated the post to say he met with police but decided not to press charges, though the Arby's apparently trespassed the people. I'm skeptical of the legitimacy of the post but the group is generally a no-nonsense rational group of people so I'm inclined to believe at least PART of it is true.
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Tony Atlas - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:04:19 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6202014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stream is fixed now.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:07:39 EST ID:oX940ptu No.6202015 Report Quick Reply
>AEW's first "killer" signing is SoCal Uncensored

Guys, c'mon, the format is so simple:
Open with a big announcement, then cycle through your midcarders, and then end on another big announcement to end on a high note

So yeah, off to a slow start
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Headbanger Mosh - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:10:57 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6202016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201992
I like it. Obviously, it's a play on the Elite as a group but promises "elite wrestling" as a company focused on the wrestling. Right there it's a mission statement in a name. They embrace the wrestling part of their identity.
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Mike Tenay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:11:59 EST ID:mPg+sg1x No.6202017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202013
>someone fucking around in a group known to be rational and serious
>unheard of
You mean a prime target for fucking with d00d?
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:12:28 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>this audio
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Jessie McKay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:14:22 EST ID:SgNh5nNf No.6202021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201967

I remember Dave saying awhile back that Alex basically quit watching wrestling ten years ago. interesting that he goes from that to commentary.
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Headbanger Mosh - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:15:09 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6202023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>wins and losses matter

I like the idea, but they better not have a points system or anything stupid. It accomplishes nothing besides booking yourself into a corner.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:19:26 EST ID:oX940ptu No.6202024 Report Quick Reply
CIMA CONFIRMED FOR AEW
CIMA CONFIRMED FOR AEW
CIMA CONFIRMED FOR AEW
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Atsushi Kotoge - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:19:46 EST ID:cMAKDCuK No.6202025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202024
YSSSSSSSSSS
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Christie Ricci - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:19:48 EST ID:BdhX044k No.6202026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202024
CIMA AND THE CHINESE BOYS ARE COMING
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Jessie McKay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:19:56 EST ID:SgNh5nNf No.6202027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>CIMA working with the Bucks
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:19:56 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OWE confirmed
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Rizokahn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:22:05 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6202029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Double Or Nothing confirmed for MGM Grand on May 25th
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Alicia Fox - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:22:33 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6202030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I rike cola
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Brian Adams - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:22:50 EST ID:CmTdC5yI No.6202031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh shit. You boys ready?
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Dusty Rhodes - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:22:51 EST ID:nPrKbm+6 No.6202032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>making a deal with CIMA for the memes

based
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Jessie McKay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:25:03 EST ID:SgNh5nNf No.6202035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202029

interesting get since WWE runs the other MGM-owned arenas like T-Mobile and Mandalay Bay.
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Rosa Mendes - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:25:07 EST ID:lRA9jTIa No.6202036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202032
fuck why couldn't it be Kenny Omega or one of the Young Bucks?
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:27:42 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Britt Baker

wow it's nothing
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:27:49 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>disregard NJPW obtain friendship with OWE and Dragon Gate
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Daisuke Harada - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:29:01 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202040
Don't get worked brother, OWE is pretty much separate from DG
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Jessie McKay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:30:00 EST ID:SgNh5nNf No.6202046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wasn't OWE working with Future Stars of Wrestling in Vegas?
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:30:39 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>MJF

why? please fuck off
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:30:56 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>MJF BTFO MLW
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:31:37 EST ID:9P2jdKq5 No.6202050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202046
Sort of and I believe CIMA tried to bring the OWE guys but the Visa issues prevented them to work in the US
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:33:21 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thank you MJF for breaking up this circlejerk
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Gran Naniwa - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:33:34 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6202054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Brandi Rhodes said that the women of #AEW will be paid equally as the men.
Isn't this impossible by definition, since every wrestler there will be an independent contractor?
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:34:52 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ALL ELITE
ALL ALL ELITE
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Rizokahn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:34:57 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6202057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's Joey Janela!
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:35:47 EST ID:oX940ptu No.6202060 Report Quick Reply
Joey Janela and Penelope Ford confirmed for AEW
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:36:31 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Joey Janela AND Penelope Ford

>Impact BTFO
>MLW BTFO
>EVOLVE BTFO
>NXT BTFO
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:37:29 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202062
what does this mean for GCW?
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Brian Pillman - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:40:08 EST ID:XW6fM5Ki No.6202065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202063
They've still got Gage and deathmatches to rely on.
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Johnny Rodz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:40:11 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6202066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202063
I'm sure AEW will be willing to work with some indies. Hell, even WWE works with some indies these days.
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Christie Ricci - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:14 EST ID:BdhX044k No.6202068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
HOLY FUCK THEY GOT PAC!?
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Rizokahn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:19 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6202069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's that bastard PAC!
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:22 EST ID:oX940ptu No.6202070 Report Quick Reply
THE BASTARD PAC CONFIRMED FOR AEW
THE BASTARD PAC CONFIRMED FOR AEW
THE BASTARD PAC CONFIRMED FOR AEW
THE BASTARD PAC CONFIRMED FOR AEW
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:28 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What a BASTARD
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:37 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202042
But we have PAC, MOTHERFUCKER
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:48 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PAC AKA """"""""""""""NEVILLE""""""""


HE'LL FINALLY BE BOOKED AND USED PROPERLY


FUCK THE WWE
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:41:51 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6202074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Bastard PAC

This is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge fucking deal for AEW
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:42:49 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PAC CONFIRMED

Does this mean Dragon Gate is gonna work with AEW
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Godiva - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:43:49 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6202079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>THE DREAM GATE CHAMPION IS IN AEW
And there's the link to Dragon Gate
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Christie Ricci - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:44:48 EST ID:BdhX044k No.6202082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who the fuck else are they gonna pull out of their hat next? They won custody of the Lucha Bros or something?!
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Jessie McKay - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:45:05 EST ID:SgNh5nNf No.6202083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PAC vs Hangman is a pretty smart first title feud for a fed.
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Dean Malenko - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:45:09 EST ID:S/hA6bo4 No.6202084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Audio issues and lack of crowd micing completely killed this. What a clown show.
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:48:11 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Jericho

yay more boomers
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:48:22 EST ID:oX940ptu No.6202089 Report Quick Reply
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
JERICHO CONFIRMED FOR AEW
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:48:35 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BASED BOOMER IS THERE
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:48:42 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Y2AEWJ
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:49:10 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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THE GOAT IS HERE
THE GOAT
IS
HERE
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:49:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I'll never wrestle on US soil for anyone except Vince

LOL
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:50:12 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Buy a t-shirt!
>Subscribe on YouTube
>Follow us on Social Media!
>Here's some indie guys and washed up WWE wrestlers
>Buy a t-shirt!

Where's the "announcement"?
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:50:27 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202094
Then Fandango happened
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Rosa Mendes - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:51:21 EST ID:lRA9jTIa No.6202097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202095
the second show
No tv though
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Daisuke Harada - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:51:24 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202095
h*lla freaking epic my dude
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:51:54 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202097
That was announced weeks ago
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Human Tornado - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:52:28 EST ID:Wjy4zemn No.6202100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202096
More like Saudi Arabia happened.

>"Hey Vince, you wanna pay me a lot for one show? Sure!"



>"WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED?"
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Rosa Mendes - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:53:08 EST ID:lRA9jTIa No.6202102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202099
I mean the third show
The show after the one they were promoting
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:54:33 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Rizokahn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:55:07 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6202104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One thing I got out of it is that the Khan family are extremely serious about this promotion being a major league. It will be an interesting year.
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Flip Kendrick - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:55:25 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6202105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy fuck, what a disappointment. The best announcement was PAC.
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:55:25 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103
Ahahahaha
the salt is real
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:55:33 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is that it?
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:56:02 EST ID:o+8CNab9 No.6202108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103

Jericho hasn't been in WWE since the Greatest Royal Rumble last year. They just now moved him to the Alumni page?
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Flip Kendrick - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:56:39 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6202109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202106
He was moved to the alumni section. They didn't benoit him. He's an alumni now. He's signed to someone else
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Will o' The Wisp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:57:10 EST ID:K1O37tzk No.6202111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103
and people wonder why they hate WWE.
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:57:44 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103
they should have done that ages ago when it was clear he wasn't coming back
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:58:08 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>all the money for the rally went to pyro rather than a decent audio setup.
Hopefully production value goes way up with the budget they have
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:58:15 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really don't think WWE is going to miss Jericho all that much. WWE is finally realizing fans want new talent and new matches. All Jericho ever does in WWE these days is little 3-6 month stints where he jobs to upper midcard guys WWE wants to get over. He hasn't been involved in a major storyline in years. He's not a huge loss, and WWE fans are sick of seeing part timers anyway.
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Michael Nakazawa - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:58:23 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6202116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202111
Why the hell would they keep him under the active competitor when he kinda just showed up and left at random? not to mention he's under contract with a different company.

Of all the things to bitch about for WWE, this ain't one of them.
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Flip Kendrick - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:58:32 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6202117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202111
But he is an alumni though. Why would they keep him on the superstar page if he doesn't work there or there is no plans to have him back?
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:59:02 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202113
Vince was hanging on to the thought of: "M-maybe Jerigoat will come back to us and be the most entertaining thing in this shitty show, r-right son Hunter?"
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FlashLightning - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:59:06 EST ID:27/cTEJk No.6202119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103
That was fast.
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Ivory - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:59:28 EST ID:OIAM1651 No.6202120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103

This is bullshit. I was actually looking at WWE.com superstars earlier today and he wasn't there.
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:59:57 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202100
I mean, he worked elsewhere before that but I'll go with yours
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Shane McMahon - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:00:44 EST ID:rgxBz+Rx No.6202124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103
petty.
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Giant Bernard - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:00:51 EST ID:dVvsHXyz No.6202125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Would you say this was better than the first GFW press conference?
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Dean Malenko - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:01:11 EST ID:S/hA6bo4 No.6202126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't understand the timing of this in hindsight. I would have waited until they had Omega free and clear to hold this thing. If they were going to announce TV starting imminently I could understand wanting to do it now, but no Omega plus no TV deal made this thing seem unnecessary, like they were tipping their hand too early. Jericho was a decent surprise, but overall the whole thing was underwhelming. The production was also very minor league. Can't call this a win.
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Jim Powers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:01:20 EST ID:unEIf/RV No.6202127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202103
>BAH. WE’RE NOT WATCHING THIS SECOND RATE INDY CRAP. -WWE probably

>Quietly moves Jericho to the alumni section immediately after he debuts for AEW

Fuckin’ kek
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Flip Kendrick - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:02:05 EST ID:xWBoLMFC No.6202128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202124
It's not petty, He doesn't work for them anymore and apparently he was already moved
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:02:36 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202111
...who is "they"?
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Kenny King - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:03:01 EST ID:ezWbeT03 No.6202130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202127
I love how you're getting angry at things that exist in your own mind
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:03:08 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202126
Keeps the hype up by not just immediately blowing your load. Everyone knows there's more to come
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Kofi Kingston - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:05:19 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202127
cringey as fuck
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:05:21 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
#AEWRally trending
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:05:36 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>CIMA and OWE confirmed
>DG partnership very likely with fucking PAC showing up
>Brandi hinting at Joshis coming over
>Jericho ripping Vince's heart right out
How much paniv do you think is going on over at Titan Towers?
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:06:01 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:06:04 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202132
This.
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:06:11 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT

This promotion is 8 days old

Wrestling fans are so fucking entitled
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:06:19 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202138
panic*
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Ivory - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:07:10 EST ID:OIAM1651 No.6202143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202127

This didn't happen now. This is pure bullshit.

It happened before today!
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Kenny King - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:07:32 EST ID:ezWbeT03 No.6202144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202138
>>6202142
Why would there be panic?
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:09:21 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>dumbfucks in this thread actually think Jericho didn't tell Vince he was heading to AEW beforehand
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:09:42 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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HOLY SHIT

HE DESERVES THIS
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Kurumi - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:09:55 EST ID:u5SX3vsM No.6202152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202138
>>6202141
If they get Kenny then it's seriously game on. The fact that he (maybe) hasn't already made up his mind to join his friends here when even Jericho showed up...is concerning.
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Damien Demento - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:09:57 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6202153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202138
The only thing here which could make Vince panic is OWE, and that's only if it ever blows up in China which I doubt. Otherwise there's nothing to trouble WWE
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:09:59 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202144
Because someone told Vince he can't have all the toys to play with.
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Kaitlyn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:12:17 EST ID:2dnmVYX1 No.6202156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I could only half listen because I'm at work, did they address if these guys are exclusive or if this is like the AAA/Impact/MLW orbit?
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:12:51 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202152
Kenny isn't going to say anything until his NJPW contract expires. 100% sure he's going to AEW and will be the 1st AEW champ.
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Daisuke Harada - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:12:58 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202152
he's under contract to the end of January
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:13:44 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202152
Either Kenny really is going to WWE, or they're saving him for the actual event. AEW isn't even a full thing yet and they're already making wrestling exciting when it comes to this type of thing.
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Kenny King - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:14:22 EST ID:ezWbeT03 No.6202163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202154
Again, why would he panic at all about this? Nothing you listed would be any cause of panic to Vince or even make him care. He doens't want the competition but I doubt he's panicking.

I don't know what's wrong with you people, you guys make up this things in your mind, claim them as fact, and you that as a reason for outrage or laughter.
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:15:08 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202152
Isn't Kenny still signed to NJPW? Even if he has signed to AEW, it'd be lame to just say that they have him on lock, versus having him appearing.
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Giant Baba - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:15:37 EST ID:hUI88j7i No.6202167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's no "panic" to be had here. Vince can just snap his fingers and level this promotion in a second if he wanted to.
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Damien Demento - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:15:38 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6202168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202162
>Either Kenny really is going to WWE, or they're saving him for the actual event
OR he's still under contract to NJPW until the end of January and whether he's agreed to sign for AEW, WWE, TNA, FREEDOMS, Ice Ribbon, whoever, he can't announce it until his contract is out
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:16:03 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202163
You're taking the shitposting too serious.
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Kenny King - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:16:15 EST ID:ezWbeT03 No.6202170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202156
They are exclusive
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Jesse Neal - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:16:34 EST ID:O7NPePMJ No.6202171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202138
I doubt there's much panic.
AEW will probably be a better wrestling show but it won't actually be a "threat" to WWE, it's too big at this stage.
It's like even if someone comes along and makes the craziest best smartphone ever, iPhone will still outsell it by a lot because it's been established as the big brand for so long, and is from a massive company with endless money.
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:17:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202150
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:18:14 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202167
The last time Vince took on another billionaire he very nearly lost
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Michael Tarver - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:19:09 EST ID:sgTYGybZ No.6202178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202175
That promotion had TV and major star power.
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:20:02 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202178
This one has potential for both
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:20:08 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202172
>it's already happening
How long till Bischoff comes oozing in?
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Michael Tarver - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:21:32 EST ID:sgTYGybZ No.6202183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202181
Potential
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Johnny Rodz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:22:14 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6202185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Personally I'm feeling more confident about AEW now than I was pre-rally. It all really comes down to what t.v. deal they get, if they can get one.
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:26:35 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202167
>Vince can just snap his fingers and level this promotion in a second if he wanted to.

HOW?!
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Sheamus - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:27:25 EST ID:kJMaDdnx No.6202191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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We are going get PAC vs Omega at some point!!!!
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:27:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Independent Contractor Status

B T F O
T
F
O
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Derrick Bateman - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:31:18 EST ID:Y2UyFroI No.6202198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202189
If he can do it with a snap of his fingers then magic's my guess.
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:31:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202192
>rooting for this to fail so the wrestlers can't get healthcare
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:31:44 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202192
This is actually huge. Very enticing for other wrestlers.

>>6202185
I think that having the Khan's behind them are enough to definitely get a TV deal. The thing is - what network? I really hope that it's a National one and not some shitty no-name network like Pop or whatever other bullshit.
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:32:23 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202192
>wrestlers getting benefits
About time. I feel for some of them when they get injured and can't cover themselves.
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Chiva II - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:33:07 EST ID:K/HyVPyy No.6202203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201971
Not buying it. Your typical BC/Elite fan isn't the frat type.
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:35:29 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Siri, please play Shook Ones by Mobb Deep
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:36:09 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202200
Do the Khans have any shares in any networks? If not, my guess will be possibly TNT, TBS, or Spike if cable or CW if basic channels.
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Derrick Bateman - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:37:54 EST ID:Y2UyFroI No.6202209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202207
Al-Jazeera
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Dump Matsumoto - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:39:00 EST ID:HCzYR1fY No.6202211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202206
lmao what a bunch of bitches
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Jay Lethal - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:40:08 EST ID:PdM+LM41 No.6202213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202206
Based WWE making sure the odor in the venue is manageable
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Buddy Rogers - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:41:45 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202213
>thinking WWE fans don't smell just as bad if not worse
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Nova - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:42:30 EST ID:iS5Lqr5H No.6202218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202206
It's afraid.
>>6202209
>Al-Jazeera has an American channel
Well there's an interesting home for wrestling.
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Buff Bagwell - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:42:35 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202183
Well yeah, it literally just started but they're backed by billionaires
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Mitch Ryder - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:42:41 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6202220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202209
nothing about that on his Wiki page
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DASH Chisako - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:45:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202218
>Al-Jazeera has an American channel
>Well there's an interesting home for wrestling.

*ahem*
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Terra Ryzin - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:45:11 EST ID:H0DhkjUr No.6202225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds pretty damn neato so far.
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Wade Barrett - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:47:54 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6202227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202191
Yo fuck that shit
We're getting Omega vs CIMA at someday soon!!
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Daisuke Harada - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:50:26 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202191
Pumped for Omega v Janela tbh
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Derrick Bateman - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:52:01 EST ID:Y2UyFroI No.6202231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202220
I stopped at the picture and just assumed.
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Trent Barreta - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:52:29 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202206
Nice. So this means that they're actually considered competition.
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Beef Wellington - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:52:57 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6202234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202206
>the WWE marks in his replies
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Berlyn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:54:47 EST ID:+s+cjw5G No.6202236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6198363
Why does Goldberg follow you?
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Giant Bernard - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:57:06 EST ID:dVvsHXyz No.6202240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202236
He doesn't. I think it was Ryan Satin who posted that screenshot originally.
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Lince Dorado - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:59:32 EST ID:MYLVlk8q No.6202245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202230
PAC vs Janela
T-Hawke vs Cody in a "who can /woo/ hate more" match
Penelope vs Linda
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UltraMantis Black - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:01:56 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6202251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202227
Oh god oh god
Y2J vs CIMA
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Johnny Gargano - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:12:53 EST ID:gXVSLY0L No.6202260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Equal pay to male wrestlers
>Possible benefits for healthcare
>decent to good booking
Please Khans, grab my girl. Fedoraman is a poorfag and lost his mind long ago.
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Retail Dragon - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:17:07 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202260
according to the new Breaking News WOR they've apparently tried to get Mayu
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Johnny Gargano - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:19:22 EST ID:gXVSLY0L No.6202267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202265
And what happened? Please tell me there's a chance.
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Pedro Morales - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:21:20 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6202271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1082793353845133312
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Scotty Vortekz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:26:05 EST ID:b/6yrda6 No.6202274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202260
>Equal pay
>In an industry where people get paid more for being bigger stars compared to those that aren't
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La Parka - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:31:20 EST ID:TGlo5uD9 No.6202275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202265
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Nick Papagiorgio - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:32:03 EST ID:ZYKZppsK No.6202277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202274
you're right. mayu is bigger than jericho and deserves to be paied more!
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Tony Schiavone - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:34:12 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cribbing these recaps from twitter:
>dave says he thinks jericho is not exclusive with respect to new japan

>‘pretty darn clear that kenny omega js gonna be part of the group’ - ‘lot of people in wwe that want to explore their options if not GO’

>choosing between two strong tv deals

>marketed as more sports-oriented. dave’s comparison is mid-south wrestling. very strong on the tag team division. OWE is a ‘really big get’ and dave puts over t-hawk

>recruiting women from all over. viper bound for wwe not aew

>dave says mayu was approached within the last week but she’s booked for msg!

>brandi is the shoot point person for the women’s deals, same with the bucks w/r/t tag teams. dave thinks women will be paid equally relative to their spot on the card
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Nidia - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:34:21 EST ID:sgTYGybZ No.6202281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202277
Honestly, they should just give millions to Natsumi Maki.
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Rizokahn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:34:29 EST ID:REbSzboT No.6202282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202192
>>6202199
Crazy to think that healthcare is a gamechanger in this day and age, but that's where we're at.
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Derrick Bateman - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:36:20 EST ID:HCzYR1fY No.6202284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202227
>Omega vs CIMA
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Jay Lethal - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:37:08 EST ID:cMAKDCuK No.6202287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202280
>dave puts over t-hawk
T-HAWK WINS LOL
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Meng - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:39:22 EST ID:ZPKWnmYG No.6202288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202274
I imagine it's a meaningless statement, where they'll still revert to paying according to drawing power. It gets them brownie points, and they might be able to point at a few big name females as being paid more than some lower card dudes as 'proof'.
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Lance Storm - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:39:32 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6202290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202280
>dave thinks women will be paid equally relative to their spot on the card

Amazing insight David Meltzer.
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UltraMantis Black - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:40:36 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6202292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202199
>>6202282
So if wreslter's in AEW are labeled as employees and can get healthcare
Does that lead to a class action lawsuit for the boys in WWE to finally get their healthcare?
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Prince Iaukea - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:44:26 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6202297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
AEW should take advantage of the whole WWE shirt fiasco by offering to send anyone who can produce a ticket for Smackdown a free shirt or something.
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Scotty Vortekz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:44:43 EST ID:b/6yrda6 No.6202298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202292
No, independent contractors are different legally, plus WWE has this weird ability to kind of stay under the radar on these types of things.
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Atlantis - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:47:38 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6202300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202297
>carnies giving out free merch when they can bilk the marks out of every dollar
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Lance Storm - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:49:31 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6202301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Jay Lethal - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:52:11 EST ID:cMAKDCuK No.6202302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202301
Lmao WWE drone lies
https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1082793350351093760
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Prince Iaukea - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:52:19 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6202303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202301
A security guard is on camera confirming the original order to not let them in.
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Tony Schiavone - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:53:15 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202301
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Misutero - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:53:29 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6202305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202280
>marketed as more sports-oriented. dave’s comparison is mid-south wrestling.
>mfw FOX drops wwe for AEW
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Retail Dragon - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:54:59 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202301
it's incredibly clear some of y'all don't use twitter, almost all of the people disputing this with shit like this are well known anti smarks and WWE fanboys, this guy especially
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Vince Russo - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:55:05 EST ID:/80Ev4J1 No.6202307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202304
Well clearly John Pollock and arena security are in on this ruse.
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Tony Schiavone - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:57:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202306
>well known anti smarks

lol humanity is fucked
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R.D. Evans - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:00:54 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202305
I don't know if the average person is going to buy wrestling-as-a-sport. ROH has tried it several times and it just leads to a boring product.

And if you think Fox is going to drop WWE for AEW, you're delusional. To the casual audience, the biggest name involved is Chris Jericho, and he hasn't been a main eventer in WWE for like 10 years now.
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Chief Jay Strongbow - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:01:15 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6202312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>njpw desperately wants to keep omega
>they work with AEW to keep him happy
>AEW has OWE and pac, maybe working with dragon gate in the future
>tfw the junior division gets LIT
have fun on 205 live kushida
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R.D. Evans - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:04:13 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6202316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6199699
Sorry to bump an old post, but I should clarify, in the interview where Bischoff said Spike never advertised TNA, he did actually say they never advertised them EXCEPT for that first episode of the Hogan/Bischoff era. There was no follow up.
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:08:11 EST ID:mPg+sg1x No.6202320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202316
>bump an old post
You must be new here.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:08:56 EST ID:qE0Hxhq0 No.6202321 Report Quick Reply
>>6202311
Maybe they could try the MLW approach of having a sports presentation and focus on wrestling in its product but also have some aspects like angles and storylines that are more sports entertainment like we've seen with the Low Ki-Tom Lawlor feud even though that stabbing angle was pretty dumb.
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Tony Schiavone - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:12:23 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>this fat cukk already deleted the tweet

10 years later, employed by the wwe and he's still butthurt about roh
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:41:20 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6202346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cody just confirmed the following:

>Anyone hurt in a WWE ring will be "covered"
>Joey Janela will be allowed to keep working with GCW, and put on Spring Break shows
>Jericho will be allowed to keep doing the JeriCruise
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WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:42:20 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6202347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202346

>WWE Ring

I'm an idiot. an AEW ring. I will put myself in the shame cube immediately.
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StannisTheMannis !/R33EULsds - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:45:30 EST ID:y17TEJ74 No.6202350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is an exciting time to be a wrestling fan, guys. Enjoy it and live it up. It's only going upward from here.
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Tursas - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:52:42 EST ID:rgxBz+Rx No.6202354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wwe not allowing people with aew shirts confirms that vince is physically upset that another kid has come to play in 'his' sandbox.
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Jazz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:01:09 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6202360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202354
people wear AAA merch in Arena Mexico and nobody cares
maybe when Vince isn't running a tiny little baby promotion he won't be so scared
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:01:14 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6202361 Report Quick Reply
>>6202360
Remember them firing him because he can't or won't put the effort into getting heat.
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Jazz - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:02:46 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6202363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202361
>Big Scoop NJ with the history lesson about Vince getting shitcanned from CMLL
you're always educational, broham
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Michael McGillicutty - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:05:39 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
KENTA fucking when? He's almost at 5 years in WWE. Contract up this year maybe?
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Tokyo Magnum - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:52:26 EST ID:BLsuG4IT No.6202393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202365
Soon. What a waste of time and talent in the WWE. Dude probably wants to get the fuck out of there asap.
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Pedro Morales - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 22:00:32 EST ID:RHbsK6aP No.6202400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202365
I feel like at this point he'd just go back to Japan. If he's been miserable in a foreign country for that long.
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Amish Roadkill - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 22:27:34 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202365
he should think about retirement tbh, he's broken down now
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nowah !gJyJMqu4hs - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:00:26 EST ID:OcFr27aJ No.6202434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202365
>KENTA has been in NXT for five years

I don't think I've ever felt time fly in such a way.
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Danny Doring - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:31:03 EST ID:MYLVlk8q No.6202449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202434
>It's been five years
My brain hurts a lot.
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Nidia - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:35:53 EST ID:sgTYGybZ No.6202451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202400
How do we know he's miserable? He's got a family that has made a living in America now. It's the same with Shinsuke. People always go on about these guys pushes and shit and don't bother to think that they actually have families.
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Hamuko Hoshi - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:43:22 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6202453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202451
>People always go on about these guys pushes and shit and don't bother to think that they actually have families.
Maybe some people go on about these guys pushes because Hideo would make more money as a prominent act on the main roster, instead of being a geek on a half-dead brand?
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Saba Simba - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:03:09 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6202459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This shit is going to suck by 2021.

Lets go MLW and Impact. Fuck WWE and Fuck AEW.
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Dave Taylor - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:07:03 EST ID:3rz2Kjle No.6202462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The ELITE showing up in DDT will be gold for the Puro Twitter reaction alone.
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:09:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202462
>AAA

RIP Imoact
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Hamuko Hoshi - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:20:32 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6202470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202462
>PWG
DDT I can believe, especially given Omega's history there, but besides Excalibur for commentary, who could count as a PWG guy?
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Averno - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:22:23 EST ID:N80saJ5A No.6202472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202459
god damn, can it debut first?
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Retail Dragon - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:29:23 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202470
They've signed Super Dragon brother
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Anthony Nese - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:29:39 EST ID:eKeszhZE No.6202478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202470
Super Dragon would be the only pure PWG guy.
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:29:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202470
>>6202462

How many talents are "exclusive" to DDT and W1?

Are we sure this isn't just a mistranslated way of explaining how they're bringing in Excalibur, Michael Nakazawa, and Penta & Fenix?

It might also mean the Elite tours these promotions to work with their friends.
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Horace - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:32:07 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6202481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202470

I think it's more that AEW will get first crack at the young Cali guys PWG use in exchange for The Bucks or Kenny appearing every once in a while.
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Saba Simba - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:32:51 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6202482 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202472
Wrestling isn't going to be fun anymore. It's going to go back to the cut throat WCW vs WWE days which a lot of people seem to be excited about but I'm not. I like having variety. AEW is going to create another era of massive egos and bad locker rooms because of money and competition. Indies are going to die under the weight of WWE and AEW.

I know this is what people want but I don't like corporate wrestling. I guess I am in the minority. I enjoy watching smaller companies figure their shit out and gain traction. It bums me out when everything is a big shit flinging money fucking pop contest. I don't want to choose between Pepsi and Coke. It's not up to me though. Wrestling fans have spoken. They want Kid Rock AND Limp Bizkit.
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Retail Dragon - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:34:33 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202481
>I think it's more that AEW will get first crack at the young Cali guys
Considering the last time they booked young cali guys only for 3 of the 4 to never get booked again I'm not sure they care about that too much
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Madison Eagles - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:34:40 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6202484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202479

>TBS and TNT

He did it again, you guys.
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Madison Eagles - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:36:13 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6202485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202482

I agree with you 100%

Again, I'm hoping AEW will allow guys to wrestle indies. That's literally the only thing I care about. Won't ever watch AEW regardless, but at least I'll know if they're friend or foe.
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Jazz - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:38:09 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6202486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202479
yeah I'm not sure how much they've got working relationships vs having exclusive working relationships
if they've got Lucha Bros on US tv as far as anybody knows AAA has to at least give an okay and get their cut of the money, but that hasn't been an exclusive thing yet nor has it kept CMLL Guy Rush from working MLW
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Stone Cold Steve Austin - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:42:17 EST ID:/LMUJzdn No.6202487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202479
Really hope its TBS because they'd get fucked by NBA if they're on TNT
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Nova - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:46:24 EST ID:u5SX3vsM No.6202489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202482
Dude, AEW or no AEW, WWE's goal was monopolizing wrestling to be #1 in the world. They were "taking the fun out of wrestling" anyway by scooping up everyone that became a blip on their radar, cutting deals with indies to make them official feeders, and so forth, in efforts to move toward reaching that goal. At least now there may be some counterweight, another avenue. And we still don't know what the contracts are going to be like exactly for AEW talent i.e. how exclusive they'll be.
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:51:22 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202481
>AEW will get first crack at the young Cali guys PWG use in exchange for The Bucks or Kenny appearing every once in a while.

  1. what young Cali guys? you mean Bar Wrestling?
  2. its not like PWG has exclusivity on their talents, so all AEW can do is scout them at events like anyone else
  3. I thought the only thing stopping the Bucks from appearing at PWG was their NJPW schedule? They were pretty much already working at PWG whenever they had time.
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:00:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202462
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Amish Roadkill - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:04:39 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6202494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We can all agree that this is great for the business though right? Despite my hatred for the Bucks and Cody as in ring performers, more places for guys to get work and get paid well is a positive.
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Silver King - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:08:51 EST ID:4hmXfykw No.6202496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202494
Yes and only dipshit retards think otherwise. I don't like them either, but I hope this succeeds.
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Madison Eagles - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:15:01 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6202497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202494

Good for the wrestlers.

Potentially good for the fans, depending which side you're on. Potentially bad if you like indie wrestling. Though the exclusivity of contracts isn't clear, so it could be a good thing.

Potentially bad for promoters. Again, if AEW restricts contracts, indie promotions will suffer harder than they ever have before.
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Brian Gewirtz - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:19:10 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6202498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202280
>viper bound for wwe not aew
can't wait for her match with Nia Jax

it will be the Daddy/Haystacks of our age
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La Parka - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:26:39 EST ID:TGlo5uD9 No.6202501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202479
I'll wait and see on that DDT thing.
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hi - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:31:52 EST ID:VT/8RKg0 No.6202504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder i they could pull Generico back
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hi - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:49:34 EST ID:VT/8RKg0 No.6202509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So i'm guessing Double or Nothing card is like

Page vs PAC for the championship
Janela vs MJF
Bucks vs China team?
Cody vs Jericho?
Britt Baker vs Brandi

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
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Ayako Hamada - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:56:45 EST ID:BtqqTwSQ No.6202512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62024620

> TNT or TBS may already be final

> OWE office member is the source

Yes, because someone from OWE is going to have details on AEW's potential TV contracts. Meanwhile, Rovert is trying to say AEW's going to get a "near $100 million TV deal" when there's no market for new wrestling programming out there.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 01:58:49 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6202514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202227
>The Omega Man vs CIMA
My cock is tungsten hard.
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Nidia - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:08:24 EST ID:sgTYGybZ No.6202518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202453
Uh yeah..maybe, but the solution is always "Go back to Japan!" and again, the dude has a family. Up and leaving isn't that simple.
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Ricardo Rodriguez - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:25:21 EST ID:JQHSqoPx No.6202522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't see any future for AEW and I think Cody is just a smart enough guy to get paid millions of dollars for something that will flop and then get to be treated like a big deal by WWE when he re-signs in 5 years time.
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Retail Dragon - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:29:55 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202501
I feel like if anything in that would be correct it would be the DDT one, potentially putting the fear in New Japan that if they don't partner with us Kenny could potentially go to DDT could be a big motivator
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CRAPCOM !SNGayGTIcE - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 03:43:36 EST ID:oBoI/UZ6 No.6202535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so how many carrot-dangling micro-pushes is WWE going to give/giving "deserves better" wrestlers in order to sucker them into re-upping this year
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Retail Dragon - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 03:59:00 EST ID:ZDnvGHyN No.6202542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202535
Only basing this on what I've seen people say but haven't they pretty much already done this with the Revival?
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Vin Gerard - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 04:13:30 EST ID:fZ+rMcta No.6202545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202206
If you still had doubts about Vinnie Mac being fucking terrified of anybody getting even the thinnest chance of fucking with him again
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Jim Ross - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 04:33:59 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6202547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202100
What's hilarious is this is basically it. He said so in an interview this past summer.
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123 Kid - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 05:00:34 EST ID:4CWnwFjn No.6202552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202547
He recounted the two long plane rides he was unable to drink on like they were Vietnam stories, dude loves the sauce.
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Kamala - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 05:20:40 EST ID:qoIql1PV No.6202557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201983
Some do, had a guy from another table in the pub try to muscle in on my ex when I went to take a piss one time.

He wasn't as aggressive as these guys apparently were, and BTFO when I returned, but still, folk will try all sorts of BS when you've got your back turned.
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Don Harris - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 05:27:59 EST ID:FDPlQwWq No.6202559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202552
It could be for many reasons, but he does have that weathered face I'd associate with an alcoholic, and sometimes his eyes are bloodshot like he just woke up from a bender. But hey more power to him if he can drink whatever amount works for him and also be one of the most important wrestler going as well as being a succesful rock star...that some people enjoy. Hell I'm pretty sure Fozzy has three radio songs in the past 2 years.
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Juventud Guerrera - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 06:07:11 EST ID:TPuYAoNt No.6202571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201983
Not wrestling related but yeah, they do. I was at a white trash local karaoke bar with my gf & went to take a piss. In those 3-4 mins it took me to piss & wash my hands, I felt my phone buzz & saw the text from her, "get back here asap."

3 dudes were surrounding her on the patio, chatting her up, telling her they'd give her a good time, while also arguing among themselves about which one was better. She's cute but not a 10 or anything but these dudes were ready to fuck & thought she'd leave me right there.

We haven't been back since.
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Greg Excellent - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 06:38:43 EST ID:cqsD7/Wg No.6202579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think they start off with big shows every couple months then they work for that TV deal. Which is fine.
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Bobby Dempsey - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 08:16:04 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6202590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202094
I mean I think we all knew that was BS, but I do think that's the last time Vince ever gives his blessing for anyone to work Japanese promotions

The way I see it, Jericho's stories of calling Vince to get his blessing are true, and now Vince will feel burned

Or Vince never gave a shit and just told Jericho "sure what the fuck do I care" and Jericho dressed the story up in interviews
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Christina Von Eerie - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 08:26:52 EST ID:qqRmEptO No.6202591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202095
>PAC is "washed up"

It's not your fault.
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Bobby Dempsey - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 08:31:31 EST ID:0502YOVz No.6202592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202095
I mean compared to Jeff Jarrett's announcement of GFW which was literally "I'm gonna travel the world making partnerships"....
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:29:08 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202579
Someone pointed out something interesting yesterday: they never said Double or Nothing was a PPV

They could be working out a TV show deal, but I wouldnt be against the first year being a year of ALL IN style touring: super cards in 10,000+ seaters.

AEW is following a bunch of arenas on Twitter; they clearly saw the opportunity to take the success of ALL IN and tour with it.

If they can get a broadcaster for those events, its another win
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Tony Schiavone - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:44:04 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6202613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If anyone listens to Wrestlenomics (https://audioboom.com/channel/wrestlenomics-radio), Mookie the co-host is working for AEW as financial advisor.

Between AEW working with the media & Impact hiring Alicia Atout and Garrett Kidney, this is the year when Wrestling promotions co-opt and hire the IWC.
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Mister Pogo - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 10:51:07 EST ID:5c53MKzZ No.6202630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202213
this one doesn't make sense, the AEW shirts are new so they'd smell better than a Bayley fag's shirt
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Juventud Guerrera - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:01:40 EST ID:TPuYAoNt No.6202635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202608
>they didn't follow my local arena

WE USED TO BE A BIG TERRITORY BACK IN THE DAY!
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Frightmare - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:07:18 EST ID:J6VNXlmc No.6202638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202608

WWE can't even come close to selling out LCA in detroit. it would be hilarious if AEW did.
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Kamala - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:23:36 EST ID:qoIql1PV No.6202643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6197738
She'll win the women's title in a tournament in Rio, then defend it less than Moolah and Stephanie McMahon combined.
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Robbie E - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:27:28 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6202645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202311
>I don't know if the average person is going to buy wrestling-as-a-sport.
Dave just said "more wrestling oriented", its not going to be a shoot promotion or anything. Im expecting it to be more Japan-like promotion.
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Robbie E - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:38:09 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6202650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202361
So thats why hes overcompansating with the heat nowadays eh, thanks NJ
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Jazz - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 11:56:59 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6202656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202638
It would be interesting to start a list of how much [venue X] sells for modern lolWWE vs nonWWE promotions, like how that ROH/NJPW show sold out MSG
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El Hijo Del Tirantes - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:12:47 EST ID:VCV4Znpr No.6202663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6202171
well with that logic this means that AEW and something else will be a strong competitor in a near future.
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Danny Doring - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 13:34:07 EST ID:MYLVlk8q No.6202725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202613
Didn't WWE hire the guy who made Janela's hype videos too?
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Michael McGillicutty - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 13:41:54 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6202732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wish Jericho and his new Steven Seagal hair all the best
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Bo Dupp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:28:24 EST ID:zp5stWQ1 No.6202799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202725
Yes they did.
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Jim Powers - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:36:27 EST ID:q1lGM/Cg No.6202800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Being so petty that you’re afraid of an upstart wrestling company’s merch appearing on your airtime.

Petty McMahons are always a treat.
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Damien Demento - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:41:36 EST ID:WUqGnfHF No.6202804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202800
Were there AEW shirts in the crowd?
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Jim Powers - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:49:31 EST ID:q1lGM/Cg No.6202806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202804
If there were they were quickly escorted out of the building. They weren’t even offered a WWE shirt to wear instead, just straight kicked out. Dickheads.
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