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Thoughts on this run? by Ian Rotten - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:45:28 EST ID:6xkC7Pb/ No.6200604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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IMHO it's some of his weakest work in WWE. Punk and Jericho played this character better. Why are people praising his promos? He's the same quality he ever was. Has the quality of promos gotten so bad that Bryan is now the best in WWE?
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Bull Buchanan - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:46:45 EST ID:1pooxecV No.6200605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I praise his promos because I agree with them.
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Jonny Fairplay - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:56:46 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6200606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He is literally one of the only great things on WWE in my opinion but I'm sure that will upset people. His Brock Lesnar match was a story. He was the highlight of the elimination chamber despite kofi being the star of it. Bryan was so good. I don't watch much WWE for a million reasons but I take the time to watch a Daniel Bryan match. Especially on PPV. Only caught a few promos from youtube and what not and those were great too.

He wrestles with purpose. I hate to say it but maybe it just goes over peoples heads
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Harlem Bravado - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:07:32 EST ID:gWmWN2jl No.6200608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
Him and Ronda are the only good things in WWE right now.
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Scotty Vortekz - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:10:54 EST ID:j9w/jLM3 No.6200609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's kinda fucking bizarre how the exact same characteristics that made Vince and the Authority hate him (in kayfabe) are now cranked up to 11 and now he's all buddy-buddy with Vince over Kofi.
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Hydra - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:11:05 EST ID:JROLrWtL No.6200610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200606
>He wrestles with purpose. I hate to say it but maybe it just goes over peoples heads

Maybe it does, but the mistakes go over a lot more heads.
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Cheech Hernandez - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:12:41 EST ID:0AcdH2Qk No.6200611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's working the role well and getting reactions which these is a testament to his general skill at being a pro wrestler. The end segment of the Elimination Chamber match was the first time in a while I can remember where a real exciting match was taking place and the fans were really behind the babyface and against the heel, just classic pro-wrestling dynamic you don't always see much in this age of people being easily smart, both Kofi and Bryan are responsible for that but I put it more on Bryan. He's just a great pro wrestler, in ring technically and in working.

I hope we ditch that Nintendo Labo-lookin' belt soon though and bring something back with some nice gold..or perhaps an eagle or two. That belt has me worked brother.
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Ivan Putski - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:19:22 EST ID:reKAgFJ9 No.6200613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Punk and Jericho played this character better.
They're definitely better on the mic, but it doesn't mean that DB is putting out bad promos. As well, Punk had this problem of being put into feuds with people who have no real reason to be feuding with him. Him feuding with Jeff Hardy and Jericho make sense, their feuds had to do with alcohol. While entertaining, Mysterio himself says he doesn't disagree with Punk during their feud. Him feuding with Big Show also was extremely pointless. Jericho, during his run of acting like he was smarter than everyone, was just a typical heel with bigger words. No message to bring forth. Meanwhile, Daniel Bryan is having feuds with people who actually have real beef with him. Ignoring AJ Styles, he has a problem with Mustafi Ali because he has an SUV. Kevin Owens because he is against his vegan lifestyle. Kofi Kingston because, pancakes. They're similar characters, but DB's advantage is that he has a real message and always finds problems with people who he's feuding with relating to his character.
>Why are people praising his promos?
There are some things DB has over Punk and Jericho, and that's how he has this really condescending tone in his voice. Punk is either always very mocking or has tone where he is doing a big speech. Jericho is similar. DB while mocking, feels like he really does not care about what you think or say.

That's just my opinion.
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Jonny Fairplay - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:22:42 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6200614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It should also be said that if you're able to turn anything going on in WWE into something worth watching it's a huge credit to that person
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Tank Toland - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:34:29 EST ID:ak9L6tA7 No.6200618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's fine but he has no defining enemy

but oh well he's gonna lose to kofi kingston in a feud that has nothing to do with environmentalism
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Ranjin Singh - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:40:11 EST ID:hDFwEM0h No.6200619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He needs a good face to put over. So far even AJ was a bad face against him, all of the contenders against him feel forced and cookie cutter
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Jonny Fairplay - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:52:17 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6200622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200619
poor writing and storytelling. Like everything in WWE for maybe 2-3 years straight now? Can't think of any feuds that are memorable. Daniel tries to make every shit sandwhich wwe hands him a cake.
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Derrick Bateman - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 03:54:19 EST ID:wfj6UDkw No.6200623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
when were Punk & Jericho militant environmentalists

>>6200611
>you don't always see much in this age of people being easily smart

It happens pretty regularly in companies that aren't lolWWE
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Johnny Saint - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 05:52:49 EST ID:oougXcRu No.6200643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200623
I mean, if you didn't know any better "Straight Edge Savior" CM Punk and Luke Gallows don't appear to be too far off from "The Planet's Champion" Daniel Bryan and Rowan.
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Minori Makiba - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 07:55:02 EST ID:y7zc8k2r No.6200660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's suffering from that seth rollins heel champ booking where he'll lose to almost everybody on the weekly shows but sneak out a victory on the ppv title match
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Virgil - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:09:17 EST ID:ZKUzQR7J No.6200684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
>Punk and Jericho played this character better
Bryan's a better wrestler than them though, it evens out.
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Gran Naniwa - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:13:26 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6200685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
>Why are people praising his promos? He's the same quality he ever was.
They're praising this run because "he's the same quality he ever was". Are you implying Bryan was never good?
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Pete Rose - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:37:25 EST ID:nDYCLFBn No.6200696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200660
He straight up beat dudes at the last two PPVs. Seth had constant guys run in.
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Danshoku Dino - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:47:14 EST ID:tn184EeO No.6200697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I agree with people saying he has no big face to put over. The Kofi feud is thrown together. Even the KO feud that was slated doesn't make any sense. "You're fat so you hate the environment"? What?
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Jakob Hammermeier - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:50:08 EST ID:EKbZABJE No.6200698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200696
Yeah he comes off as a credible champ to me
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Jakob Hammermeier - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:57:14 EST ID:EKbZABJE No.6200699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200697
I woulda been fine with it.

Daniel can criticise Owens's consumption, just like he's been doing to the crowd

Fact of the matter is Kevin Owens by eating cows had a larger carbon footprint than Daniel

Meanwhile Owens could stick up for the freedom of the American Everyman

Kinda like with Styles except Owens is more likeable slob than aj styles who probably legit is a climate denier
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Earl Hebner - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:59:11 EST ID:Yao2CQHc No.6200700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200697
Mustafa Ali getting injured for a cup of coffee really threw a wrench in WWE's terrible planning I guess
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Ultimo Dragon - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:01:25 EST ID:rCNLOAE1 No.6200701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200699
I think aj is a shoot creationist so climate denier ia probably a guarantee
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Ian Rotten - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:05:07 EST ID:6xkC7Pb/ No.6200703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200684
They have five star matches and he doesn't.
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Mochi Miyagi - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:10:06 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6200705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
The hippy belt is actually a really nice color scheme and I hope a regular belt uses it with different materials somewhere down the line
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Hikaru Shida - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:05:22 EST ID:UTfYNTKg No.6200715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> He's the same quality he ever was.
Excellent? Bryan has been a great promo for like 6 or 7 years now.
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Lillian Garcia - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:26:20 EST ID:r7QqZ2U/ No.6200720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He doesn't have a white-hot babyface to feud with

His character is great, his promos are great, his wrestling is great. But modern WWE just cannot do the heat that is needed to bring his work to the next level.

There's also the problem that he hasn't had a feud based around his environmental values. By the time Rey feuded Straight Edge Savior Punk, Punk had turned into a demented cult leader that was trying to corrupt the mind of Rey's daughter.

You can't just have a babyface say "i like burgers!" Bryan needs to take more action that show he's a hypocrite because all he's doing right now is being correct in his promos, saying it in a kinda dickish way and wrestling good -- while the commentators tell you to boo him.
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Tank Toland - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:32:36 EST ID:ak9L6tA7 No.6200724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200720
>Bryan needs to take more action that show he's a hypocrite because all he's doing right now is being correct in his promos, saying it in a kinda dickish way and wrestling good -- while the commentators tell you to boo him.

if they showed "hidden cam" (cameraman in the distance) footage of him sneakily eating a burger when he thinks nobody is watching, that'd be the nuclear heat moment
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Earl Hebner - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:46:48 EST ID:Yao2CQHc No.6200727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200724
Yeah, when Bryan was busy cutting promos on that burger they were selling at the Rumble I was wondering when we'd get that shot of him eating it but that never happened?
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Ernie Ladd - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:48:22 EST ID:AlTW5g+C No.6200729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200724
That'd be such a boring turn.
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Shane Douglas - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:05:43 EST ID:1r5Ae4e0 No.6200736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
He's actually getting heat as a heel that isn't go away heat. It's just something rare to see in WWE. His heel work is good enough to actually get a babyface over.
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Pope D'Angelo Dinero - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:08:14 EST ID:KwLewC+N No.6200739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200736
I'd rather he just stay on this "he's right but he's a dick about it" instead of being a hypocrite about environmentalism
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Drew Carey - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:21:21 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6200758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6200604
If it's all ultimately in service of making Kofi fucking Kingston into an organic WWE Champion it'll statistically artistically & objectively have been the greatest heel champ run of all time playa.
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Smash - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:26:13 EST ID:YfWwQtT6 No.6200762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200739
He should just have the tron off and very little lighting in his entrance.
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Drew Carey - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:27:42 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6200763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200703
Is this gimmick autism or nah?
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Savio Vega - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:42:34 EST ID:Rk+z/NHG No.6200836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's wack

Joe should have gotten the title off AJ instead
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Joe E. Legend - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:53:35 EST ID:1UPJxIbW No.6200846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Heard that he turned heel because all the faces were pushing 40, so I can appreciate his effort. However, I'm tired of seeing people I want to cheer be heels in WWE, so I haven't been able to enjoy it.

>>6200606

I knew going into the EC match that Bryan was gonna put Kofi over huge like he did Santino years ago. I'm not shocked at all by anything that's happened with this Kofi push and while I'm happy for Kofi, I'm still not into Bryan's heel run.

Maybe it's because they kicked this heel turn off by giving me my dream match for the past 10 years and making heel vs heel with 5 days build. Haven't been able to get the bad taste out of my mouth.
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Jonny Fairplay - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:05:56 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6200849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you guys seriously so jaded that you have to start digging up shit to complain about? Daniel Bryan is great. Even if you don't like him right now he certainly isn't bad by any means.

Also you should probably start to put all the pieces together and realize that WWE is a fucking BAD PRODUCT and makes everyone look like shit. How many times do we need to hear "X isn't as good as he used to be. I guess X lost it". Nakamura, AJ Styles, Kevin Owens, Daniel Bryan, Samoa Joe, Seth Rollins, Finn Balor etc. etc. etc.

I bet you anything if any of those guys left WWE they would be putting on excellent matches again. Just like Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Christian and pretty much anyone who leaves the WWE. Also Daniel Bryan has had good-great matches since being back so I don't see the problem.
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Derek Sabato - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:07:14 EST ID:dNentuaJ No.6200850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200763
OP has been making this exact same thread regularly from literally the moment Bryan turned heel, that's no exaggeration, and he never takes part in any kind of discourse. Just dumps the same reworded thread and maybe throws in some low-effort bait posts like that. So I'm thinking it's autism. There's a conversation to be had on why it isn't really clicking, namely that Bryan's gimmick exists in a vacuum and nobody's really challenging it, and Kofi's just a guy who was literally thrown in so they have no chemistry, but don't expect to have it here.
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Heidenreich - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:28:25 EST ID:VIVcVSmL No.6200861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200850
He's been making these threads since the day Bryan resigned to WWE, and didn't leave to go to Japan. He's a permanently ass destroyed butthurt babby and madkes these threads weekly about how Bryan is bad now.
It's so beyond pathetic.
Imagine what he could actually accomplish IRL if he put that energy into something useful.
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Booker T - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:49:56 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6200864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200861
It's called baiting, my man
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C. Red - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:06:01 EST ID:XeLV/T4R No.6200867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200864
It’s called “not everyone is ironic in the internet”
Seriously, you give wrestling fans way too much credit
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Mister Pogo - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:15:53 EST ID:8Bhav0kI No.6200869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200864
That's such a weak fallback lol
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Ray - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:17:25 EST ID:sKcrfvFW No.6200870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200864
Yes and it's pathetic and a glaring red flag that there is something wrong with that person IRL.
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Booker T - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:26:02 EST ID:mOOTd+jR No.6200873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200869
>>6200870
Never said that makes it okay, but posters like OP usually think they're "working people" by shitposting the same thing over & over again.

Only way to make it stop is to not reply to the troll.
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Derek Sabato - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:37:32 EST ID:dNentuaJ No.6200882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200873
I've been worked into thinking he's insane, for what that's worth. If it was some routine copypasta I'd get it, the fact he rewords this same post ever so slightly each time is the kicker. I like to think he honestly believes 'this one'll get 'em" every time and is just stuck in a loop.
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Tank Toland - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:38:37 EST ID:ak9L6tA7 No.6200886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200873
jeez who cares if people are actually talking about the subject

the only off-topic shit in this thread are people worrying that OP's motives are
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Starman - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:22:24 EST ID:qr5WY268 No.6200916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200763
Nice rebuttal. Punk has two five star matches. Jericho has one. Bryan has zero. How can you say Bryan is better when he's never achieved a five star match?
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Jonny Fairplay - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:29:41 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6200921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200916
I only like thing Meltzer likes as well.
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Apple Miyuki - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:31:48 EST ID:1Rq5kJ0B No.6200922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200916
If you want to play stupid games, Bryan has an awards category named after him.
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Marc Mero - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:39:11 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6200924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6200916
>using one mans judgment as a measure of someones skill

come on now
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Machete - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:44:31 EST ID:7tPyBNGm No.6200926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200916
>doing the concern trolling gimmick of "guy who takes Melzter star ratings literally"
Later on this same guy will be complaining about fans who take Meltzer ratings as gospel. This is beyond sad.
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Stan Lane - Thu, 14 Mar 2019 22:40:41 EST ID:wfj6UDkw No.6200995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200724
Your idea's bad and you should feel bad
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Zach Gowen - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 04:37:24 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6201040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6200916
I'll take that as a "no".
Not a gimmick.
As you were.
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Player Uno - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 05:02:39 EST ID:NW1RCTuQ No.6201043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200916
You
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Dude Love - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 05:37:20 EST ID:4TpjDQa4 No.6201046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
the only WWE I watch at this point is when they upload his promos to YouTube
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Mad Man Pondo - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:39:53 EST ID:QSGu3A37 No.6201077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200916
http://woooterioncollection.tumblr.com ( though it's not complete)
It was basically the dickbutt awards
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Pitbull - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:14:44 EST ID:28uEu7rC No.6201172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201077
>http://woooterioncollection.tumblr.com/post/146225607823/entry-140-moose-cholak-vs-larry-chene-c
MOOSE
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Lance Storm - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:56:16 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6201191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200618
>in a feud that has nothing to do with environmentalism
You can't have a feud like that because the heel is 100% correct in this case and there's no way to make a face sound like anything other than a prick arguing against him.
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Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 16:00:15 EST ID:oCJgISH5 No.6201193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201191
You can have the heel be a prick about it or go too far with his arguments, calling for mass genocide as an example.
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Lance Storm - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 16:16:23 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6201201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201193
>You can have the heel be a prick about it
already doing that, doesn't make him wrong
>calling for mass genocide as an example.
imagine pitching that bullshit in the writers room.
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R.D. Evans - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:15:00 EST ID:dNentuaJ No.6201234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201191
Bret circa 97 and Jericho circa 08 come to mind as great heels that were 100% right, all you need for the formula is a borderline tweener on the other side that the fans love enough to look past their faults and root for them in spite of what the heel points out. The fans love Kofi, sure, but he's legitimately done nothing wrong. There's nothing for Bryan to latch onto and thus no dynamic, they're just two dudes.
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Rick Steiner - Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:42:36 EST ID:wfj6UDkw No.6201406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6201193
>Bryan as THE UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST

Just take all of my fucking money
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Mona - Sat, 16 Mar 2019 03:09:41 EST ID:Iqewxee/ No.6201466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6200604
That is some trolling there, OP, I applaud your efforts.
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Luther Reigns - Tue, 19 Mar 2019 12:08:14 EST ID:FT7fbyfG No.6202855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just like the evil hippie character. Just one of those many cases where a heel run is revitalizing a stale character overall. I'd say the promos are MUCH better than usual. Usually they're typical face shit, and he does typical face shit ok and everything but was still typical face shit.
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Michael Elgin - Tue, 19 Mar 2019 12:27:22 EST ID:lryKf4Le No.6202856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6201406
>I SHALL BECOME SUPER DANIELSON, MASTER OF RING OF HONOR, NEW JAPAN, WWE AND CMLL!!! AHHAHAHAHAHA,!!!
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Kanyon - Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:11:18 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6203007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6202856
>ANSWER ME, DERRICK!


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