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The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:23:57 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217420
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> Raw was to be Ronda Rousey's final appearance for the foreseeable future. She’s under contract until April 10, 2021 but only committed to going hard full-time through this year’s WrestleMania. She had said numerous times she was looking to start a family, and within the company the storylines were written with the idea she was leaving, going with the impression there was no time frame set for her to return. What happens next, is largely up to her and her situation. She may come back for limited shows like John Cena, or even more limited like Brock Lesnar, or not at all.

> They were very lucky in regards to the weather. Two days earlier in New Jersey it was 37 degrees and raining in the afternoon. Seven plus hours in that weather, with the idea of it getting even colder at night, would have been disastrous. But the weather was fine. Rain was expected around midnight, and the main event was just starting. But luckily, the rain didn’t come until the show was over.

> The draft shows are 4/15 and 4/16 in Montreal and virtually nobody knows who ends up on what brand. There may be a few top exceptions, but just about every performer on the roster has no idea where they will end up and who they will be programmed with next. The only real teases were for Samoa Joe vs. Braun Strowman, which would indicate one was switching, and Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans, which could be on either brand, since Lynch made it clear in her promos that she would be working both brands as double champion.

> In theory, Smackdown needs to be strengthened because the mentality has to be for it to be the A show come October, or else they’re risking a high-profile failure. Raw can’t fail because even if it continues to fall, it’s still years of continued double digit falling away from not being one of the stronger weekly cable shows. Unless Smackdown increases its audience drastically, it will lose to everything but CW on Friday nights on the network side.

> The general rule Vince has gone by in the past is you lose on your way out of the brand. So from that standpoint, people who would appear to have the best shot at switching are The Revival, Bayley, Bobby Roode & Chad Gable, The Bar, Andrade, Shinsuke Nakamura, Rusev and The Usos. They often also switch champions, so you could have a Kingston/Rollins switch, or a Balor/Joe switch, or a Hardys/Hawkins & Ryder switch.

> As far as other WrestleMania news, the only other note is that the order of the matches changed literally after the show started. The Rollins win over Lesnar was originally slotted to go right before the women’s main event. Styles vs. Orton was booked to open the main card and everything was going to go in that order. Paul Heyman and Lesnar both pushed for Lesnar vs. Rollins to go early, as it hardly took a brain surgeon to realize it’ll come off better at 7 p.m. than at 11:45 p.m. For whatever reason, Hulk Hogan, who did a segment unannounced largely to do his posing routine, at 65, no longer taking off his shirt, was never told that Heyman was going to come out at the end of his segment for the easy heat of interrupting Hogan and set up the match right away.

> Another incident took place before the show. Pat McAfee, the former NFL player who worked on the pregame show, was told no jorts. So he came out with tuxedo pants that were cut into shorts. Michael Cole, who is in charge of the announcers, saw him in the shorts backstage and started yelling at him in front of for looking unprofessional. McAfee said he nearly quit right there. In fact, he went to his dressing room and started packing his things to leave. When somebody saw him packing and asked why he was packing before the show, he said, “You can tell Michael Cole to go f*** himself. I’m leaving. I’m not getting punked and yelled at like a child in front of everybody like that.” Vince McMahon was told about it. He called McAfee in and McAfee apparently had a photo of Lebron James wearing the same type of shorts with a suit. And well, you know, if Lebron does it, it makes it fashionable and not unprofessional. Vince claimed he knows what’s hip and told McAfee he was cool wearing them. Cole then had to apologize to him.

> WrestleMania announced 82,265 fans, up from the 80,676 number announced the last time they sold out Met Life Stadium for Mania in 2013. They pretty much had to announce a bigger number, which they called the entertainment record for the stadium. Because their stage blocks off more seating than they can add on the field, legitimately they can’t beat a pro football sellout even though they usually announce that they did. The last time the numbers were just over 74,000 fans and 68,900 paid. Given it’s a sellout of the same stadium, one would expect the numbers to be similar. I was told to expect 72,000 a few days before, but they did open up some late seating at the end so the number could be very slightly above that, probably very close to the 2013 numbers.

> The WWE’s claim is that the number announced includes paid tickets, comps, suites (which can be both paid and comps) and everyone with a credential. The announced gate was $16.9 million, the second largest in pro wrestling history, trailing the $17.3 million for the 2016 show at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX. Keep in mind that WWE figures gate as a combination of ticket sales plus the surcharges that the ticket outlet takes, facility fees and suite revenues. For a comparison, a boxing or MMA gate, and for that matter the gate for any other promotion, would just be based on the face value of the ticket, not including the facility fees, ticket outlets percentage or the suites, since the suite revenue goes to the building and not the event promoter.
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:28:23 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217423 Ignore Report Reply
> The Sports media web site “The Wrap” wrote that All Elite Wrestling was in advanced talks for a weekly television show that would likely air on TNT. The story essentially became a Twitter thing the night before when Brian McMahon, a Twitter personality who is very well connected with MMA business, who uses the name The Fight Oracle, stated that Warner Media Group (Turner Sports) will present AEW Wrestling at their upfronts to advertisers next month. The upfronts are scheduled for 5/15. This led to reports that AEW had signed with Turner Sports, with speculation the show would be on TBS, TNT or Tru TV, all under the Turner umbrella. At press time, no deal has been signed, but the story of TNT being a possible home for an AEW television deal has credence. At last report, there was a deal from within the Turner group and a second proposal from another group on the table.

> Because of the Double or Nothing show being on 5/25, and interest in streaming rights to the show, that’s something else notable as far as timing of the deal being completed. The idea is for AEW to be both for a weekly prime time television show and to also be involved with a streaming package with its broadcast partner. TNT’s streaming service, B/R Live, is a sports site built around various NBA packages, the UEFA championship league and the PGA. The idea of announcing AEW at the upfronts on 5/15 is also a timing issue of if or when the deal gets done. We’ve confirmed the deal hasn’t been signed as of 4/11. The Wrap story reported the same thing, saying the deal was “pretty complex” and the signing was “not imminent,” and that an announcement on 5/15 would be ideal, but it’s not a definite. Those at AEW have not addressed the story in any form.

> The Wrap story talked about a weekly show and threw in the idea the show would not be year-around. That would be inaccurate. As reported in the Observer previously, the plan is for a two hour live show. The last word was that the show would air on a weeknight, it would not be Monday or Friday due to WWE. If it was on TNT, it would not air on Tuesday’s due to TNT’s NBA contract. This would leave Wednesday or Thursday as the open days if on TNT. We had already reported that Tuesday, which was the plan with the trademarking of Tueday Night Dynamite, had been off the table as the likely date months ago. It could be different as far as the days of the week if it was on a different station. Reports and comments from Jim Ross and Brian McMahon that the show would start in October would be the best bet scenario if negotiations are completed soon enough to make that date viable.

> Mark Briscoe started swinging wildly with a fan out of the crowd, which turned out to be the former Enzo Amore. Amore was sitting with the former Big Cass, at ringside, surrounded by some planted fans and kept disguised. The idea was to make this look like it wasn’t part of the show. Those at ringside could immediately tell it was planned because security did nothing. Security was alerted ahead of time that an angle was being planned and to let it happen but weren’t told exactly what it is. The punches being thrown were really stiff because they wanted fans at ringside to think it was real. The idea was to fool everyone but as it turned out, while some fans were, most saw through it. They went so far as to keep this a secret from almost everyone. Tonga & Loa, who had just won, were not told, nor was anyone from the New Japan side told. They saw it, looked like they were mildly disgusted by it, didn’t fall for it and just walked away. Multiple sources have confirmed nobody in New Japan was told about it ahead of time. Tonga even tweeted sort of about it, just saying Enzo & Cass jumped the losers of the match not the winner and called it “ROH booking at its finest.” A number of people complained that this angle being booked at this time took away from the impact of the double title change.

> The two will use the names nZo and CazXL and their tag team name will be the Free AgentZ. A big brawl ensued, none of which was shown to the streaming/PPV audience with the idea of presenting it like it wasn’t supposed to happen. In addition, they sent Bully Ray out there with the idea that he’s a big tough guy and would be the guy who would handle things for ROH if it was a real fight. Security when it was over got Enzo & Cass out. The key thing is they weren’t handcuffed or kicked out. Cass looked very out of shape, and was blown up with bloodshot eyes. He may have gotten hurt because the punches being thrown were very real because they wanted the ringsiders to believe it was a fight and he got several potatoes from the Briscoes.

> The cameras pulled back and wouldn’t show any of it. The commotion continued while the focus was on the announcers killing time, and ignoring it but not ignoring it, noting how some guys were looking for publicity but they weren’t even getting on television. Regarding this situation, while it was most definitely an angle, and will play out, the two at press time had not signed contracts with ROH and have no future dates confirmed, although obviously they’re expected to appear. Withing the company, them being there was an issue that not everyone was on the same page on. Aspects of it remind me of Bully Ray’s retirement angle, which was largely his own angle. That isn’t to say this is his, but the idea of not shooting it to make it feel real, the real punches in the brawl, do come from the 90s Paul Heyman ECW mentality.

> When it comes to Love & Sky debuting as The Allure, as noted a few weeks back here, this was actually an idea that Madison Rayne first came up with when she said she wasn’t happy and they told her to come up with a suggestion. She suggested a new version of The Beautiful People with Love & Sky. It was agreed upon, and that Mandy Leon would also fit in with the group. Then Rayne decided to leave for Impact anyway.

> The paid attendance for the ROH / NJPW MSG show was 16,534, the largest for any non-WWE event in the U.S. since 1999. The gate was the largest ever in North America for any company other than WWE–the first in the U.S. ever to top $1 million, something even WCW at its peak never achieved.

> When the deal was made with Kushida the plan was always to announce him at the Takeover show in Brooklyn with the idea they’d announce the signing of one of New Japan’s big stars at the same time New Japan was running its MSG show. In fact, at the time, the idea is they would do it the same night, before WWE switched gears and moved the Takeover show up a day.

> The usual Takeover length of 2:15 to 2:30 was extended to 3:15 so every match was given ample time to be great. While the 2:30 time frame is probably best for NXT Takeovers, this show had such a strong lineup that it never dragged and the added time aided every match.
Sin Cara - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:31:16 EST ID:CRm5ohG5 No.6217426 Ignore Report Reply
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The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:33:00 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217427 Ignore Report Reply
> In an interesting stat regarding general public interest in the weekend shows, WrestleMania topped 2 million Google searches and was the single most searched topic on the Internet on 4/7. That number would be in the same range as most WrestleMania shows do. The New Japan/ROH show in Madison Square Garden on 4/6 did not crack the top 20, and No. 20 on that day was only 20,000 searches. New Japan has only once had a top 20 presence, which would have been for the 2018 Tokyo Dome show with the Kenny Omega vs. Chris Jericho match, and even that was minimal. None of its U.S. shows that were specials of AXS have ever trended. NXT Takeovers, which had never trended in the past, did so for the second straight big show, finishing at No. 19 on 4/5, with 50,000 searches. The name Becky Lynch on Friday with all her media work, was No. 14, also with about 50,000 searches.

> As noted before, the two big AEW rallies did not trend either. While non-WWE wrestling clearly has enough underground support to fill arenas with traveling fans, it’s a relatively small in numbers but high in passion and merchandise sales ability fan base. The real key for AEW at this point is whether television can build them a new audience, like it did with UFC and TNA when both started on Spike. But the world and television are very different from 2005. Still, even without television, UFC was able to do 20,000 to as much as 150,000 PPV buys for its shows and sellout Las Vegas for its biggest events. Then its popularity exploded once it got on Spike TV, to where PPV ranged by the end of 2006 were as high as 900,000 buys. Impact had TV on Fox Sports Net, doing about 250,000 viewers per week, and went to Spike and was doing 1 million in a bad late Saturday night time slot, and beat that number by a significant margin almost every week when moved to prime time until the very end of its run on the station.

> AEW has no television presence, but has momentum, popularity underground and merchandise sales and live ticket sales that blow away where TNA was when it went on Spike. It will also start immediately, no matter which of the two deals that they take that are in play, on a station far more prestigious than Spike, and in a far better time slot than TNA started with, and likely equal to what TNA had in its peak. But with so much WWE television and television itself being so much weaker than it was in 2005 when it comes to the ability to get a new audience for new shows, it won’t be as easy. In addition, when you are on a better station, the level of numbers needed are more significant. The one-time All In pre-show special that did 200,000 viewers was fine for WGN American, but that number would not be a success for a major station. But the fact a New Japan event from a sold out Madison Square Garden doesn’t register, at a time when Bellator’s big shows always do, shows that to the public at large, television is still the key more than anything else in getting a combat sports entertainment product into real mainstream interest.

> What appears to be the situation here in regards to AAA at MSG is that the Oak View Group, which was represented at the press conference by Peter Luuko, and Schramm Marketing, who promoted a Mexican World Cup soccer team game in New York in 2013, have made a deal to promote live events in the U.S. The goal is to start with this show, then run a second show at the Forum in Los Angeles, and then bring AAA into other major market arenas that the Oak View Group runs. Of course, the problem is whether it can draw. AAA had great success for a few years in the early 90s, mostly in Los Angeles and San Jose, and lesser in places like Chicago and New York. After the ensuing 25 years, they ran some U.S. shows, some of which drew okay and some of which didn’t, but obviously it was never successful enough to have staying power. During most of that period, the promotion had U.S. television with Galavision.

> If Madison Square Garden doesn’t do well, it would have a good chance to nix the rest of the tour. While we’ve seen with All In that the traditional rules of needing television to do major arenas successfully is no longer a hard and fast rule, I think All In as the exception to the rule that not that a new rule has been created. The idea here is the idea of bringing traditional Mexican entertainment to New York which happens to be wrestling, as opposed to the idea of drawing 15,000 pro wrestling fans to see AAA. It sounds logical on paper with so many tourists in town, but there is no historical precedent of this working with pro wrestling. Even in Mexico, AAA coming to town isn’t drawing 15,000 fans to a show except for TripleMania.

> There was a lot of talk of selling out the venue, although those close to the situation said that the market research done claimed that they wouldn’t sell out, but would be able to draw a healthy crowd. The costs of running MSG are so high, far more than any other arena in North America, because you’re paying for the prestige of “the world’s most famous arena,” but it also means a show doing a $300,000 gate, which is fine just about everywhere else, is a huge money loser in MSG.

> Tickets go on sale 5/5. The nature of wrestling these days is usually tickets are sold in advance, so you would immediately know how this is doing. But the Mexican market has a higher percentage of walk-ups, plus the whole idea of this show on this date is that so many Latinos and Mexicans will be coming to New York on vacation and they’ll be looking for authentic entertainment when they get there. Whether this is viable for a company without any television, and also, without the unique strong social media presence that AEW has that has allowed them to break the usual rules of promoting wrestling. When AAA was doing big in Los Angeles in 1992-94, when they were beating both WWF and WCW in the market, they had local television that was drawing 6 to 7 ratings which was a huge key, plus Lucha Libre was in a huge boom in Mexico.

> CMLL has gotten U.S. TV, starting on Univision Deportes starting late Thursday nights with a early Saturday morning replay. Both shows are in time slots people aren’t going to watch on a smaller station. The only key part of the news is that AAA was really hoping for a Univision deal to help them when it came to plans for U.S. touring, and with a Univision arm just starting with their competitor, that would seem unlikely.

> Heel ref Tirantes announced on 3/29 that he is no longer with the promotion. He’s been there for nine years after making his name as a heel ref for AAA. Since he left, his real-life son, El Hijo del Tirantes, became AAA’s heel ref. Tirantes did have heat since at times he’d end matches early with three counts, sometimes saying a wrestler didn’t kick out fast enough and he was calling it as a shoot but sometimes he was quick counting.

> A crazy story is that on the 4/6 show at Arena Coliseo, referee Edgar Noriega and Valiente nearly got into a legit fist fight. It’s not clear what happened. The main event ended and they seemed to have words and Noriega charged after Valiente who tried to kind of get out of his way. But Noriega grabbed him and drove him into a corner where both started struggling in a lock-up. It was kind of preposterous seeing the ref, who is actually much bigger than Valiente, who is a short high flyer, even though he’s almost 45 years old. It was probably the longest I’ve seen something like that go on in a ring in front of fans with wrestlers in the ring. The guys just watched at first. Atlantis made a point to not get near the fight. Finally one of the wrestlers got there and tried to get them to calm down. Neither really threw a punch at the other and once the other wrestler defused everything, Noriega raised the hands of the face team, which included Valiente, to end the match. Noriega is part of the Lutteroth family so he’s not likely to get any repercussions for this ridiculous scene.
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:36:52 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217430 Ignore Report Reply
> For the TV ratings for 3/29, AAA on Friday at 4:30 p.m. for two hours averaged a 2.3 rating and 4.1 million viewers, up 24 percent from the prior week. After seven weeks, the show has ranged from a low of 3.2 million in week two to a high of 4.4 million in week one and four, and averages 3.9 million viewers. The peak rating hit a 2.9 for the Laredo Kid vs. Sammy Guevara match. The TV main event was Rey Escorpion & El Texano Jr & Jeff Jarrett vs Pagano & Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown, which peaked at a 2.8. The reason the rating was up was because it was matches from Rey de Reyes. The viewership is 52 percent male, so they have, by percentage, a higher female viewership component than the U.S. groups and also far more children, as the audience is 24 percent 12 and under, 13 percent 13/18, 13 percent 19-29, 22 percent 30-44, 10 percent 45-54 and 18% 55+. So it skews much lower than WWE where about 50 percent of the viewers are over 50.

> CMLL on Televisa on 3/30 at 4:30 p.m. (A better station and for a 4:30 p.m. start, Saturday is superior to Friday), cut to one hour from the usual two did a 1.1 rating and 1.3 million viewers. . . Rodolfo Ramirez, the Executive Director of Azteca Deportes, said that AAA had signed a two year deal with a two year option. In an articles in Mexico’s version of Forbes on AAA getting on TV Azteca, Dorian Roldan said that AAA was doing 1.1 million viewers on Televisa, so CMLL is doing similar numbers if not better than AAA, but AAA is blowing them away by moving to a station where they are doing better.

> The story also talked about the move from Saturday afternoon to Friday afternoon, a decision by TV Azteca, which they believe has helped ratings because 30 percent of AAA’s viewing audience is children (37 percent is actually 18 and under) and that putting AAA on after cartoons aimed for children made it a strong time slot of them. Roldan also said that 30 percent of company income comes from selling content, which would be television and streaming deals worldwide. They also said they got their full-time streaming deal with Twitch after doing an experimental TripleMania show, the one with Dr Wagner Jr. vs. Psycho Clown in the mask vs. mask match, that did 90,000 viewers on Twitch.

> They are discounting tickets in Dallas for 7/6 now because the advance is so disappointing. There are very different views as it’s been expressed that doing so feels like cheapening the product and New Japan’s appeal is to a select group that is willing to pay for the tickets, but the issue is how many of them are in specific markets, especially now with the key American market draws being done.

> Hiroyoshi Tenzan underwent knee surgery this past week. We don’t have any other details past that right now, regarding the severity of the surgery.

> Hiromu Takahashi is scheduled back in action right now late summer after his broken neck.

> The participants in this year’s Best of the Super Juniors tournament are expected to be announced officially in two weeks. There was an unofficial listing that got out with 19 names announced, so it’s likely a 20 man tournament. The names listed were Ryusuke Taguchi, Tiger Mask, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, Desperado, Flip Gordon, Marty Scurll, Bandido, Jonathan Gresham, Taka Michinoku, Dragon Lee, Bushi, Shingo Takagi, Will Ospreay, Robbie Eagles, Taiji Ishimori, Sho, Yoh, Rocky Romero and Titan. I was told that Phantasmo was in this tournament a few months back and they’ve been pushing his debut, so he could be No. 20.

> There was a Bullet Club block party this past week at Redd’s Restaurant in New Jersey on 4/7 pushed as your chance to party with Jay White, Tama Tonga, Bad Luck Fale, Tanga Loa, Robbie Eagles, Taiji Ishimori, Hikuleo, Haku, Yujiro Takahashi, Chase Owens and Gino Gambino (an Australian who is a member of the Bullet Club) which included All You Can Eat with food provided by Jimmy’s Seafood, a hangout for wrestlers in Baltimore. It drew 800 paid and about 1,000 people total.

> MLW has gotten a television deal with Freesports in the U.K. and Ireland. It will air both its one hour weekly show as well as special events. The deal started on 4/9 with a two-hour special which was the Battle Riot show taped this past week in New York. The show will air weekly at 10 p.m. on Monday nights. Freesports is the station that previously ran 5 Star Wrestling and more recently did one set of tapings at York Hall with Revolution Pro, before the deal wasn’t renewed. When RevPro was on the station, they only did about 7,000 viewers per week and it did nothing to help their live attendance. A lot of that had to do with the channel being disorganized about getting trailers out. Freesports in a channel everyone gets, so MLW can claim that they are available in more homes than WWE in the U.K., which would be accurate, but it’s on a station like Pursuit that nobody watches.

> This confirms what has been common knowledge that RevPro wasn’t coming back to the station. Andy Quildan of RevPro on his podcast went into detail on this a month ago, saying he knew the project was doomed before the first episode aired. FreeSports had acquired an outside investor to work with them and RevPro to run the shows, which were called World of Pro Wrestling as opposed to Revolution Pro, with the idea that the three parties, the investor, FreeSports and Quildan would own the WOPW brand. They tried to get Quildan to sign a non-compete before the series started, which he refused to do because the way it was written, he thought it could have meant he wouldn’t be able to promote live shows. He got almost no notice when the shows were airing and had almost no contact with the channel.

> Impact announced a TV deal with 5STARr in the U.K. and Ireland. The new deal goes into effect on 4/26. The show had been airing n 5Spike. The station airs on Sky 128, Freeview 30, Freest 131 and Virgin Media 151. It will air on Friday nights from 11 p.m. to 1 a.m. The move was described as basically lateral. Both stations draw similar-sized audiences and have the same clearance and dial space. They’re on all major cable packages. Both stations average 11 to 12 times the audience that FreeSports, the station MLW just signed with, does.

> Rob Van Dam, 48, has signed an extended contract with Impact after doing his first match with the promotion in years this past week. He will be appearing as a regular for the promotion. Also signing was Cody Deaner, who was with the company in 2009 playing the boyfriend of ODB. Deaner looks to be a tag team with “brother” Jake Deaner, who came from AAW and other Midwest indies where he worked as Jake Something.
Madusa - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:38:52 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6217432 Ignore Report Reply
>The two will use the names nZo and CazXL and their tag team name will be the Free AgentZ
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:39:44 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217433 Ignore Report Reply
> The AEW company announced its announce team for Double or Nothing, which will likely be the announce team once they get television. The biggest name, to no surprise, is Jim Ross, who was announced as having signed the most lucrative contract for an announcer in pro wrestling history. Ross will both announce as be a senior adviser to the company. The basic gist is that while all of the guys involved in running the company, Tony Khan, Cody, The Young Bucks, Christopher Daniels and Kenny Omega are students of wrestling and follow it closely, they are all also new to management. Even Chris Harrington is new to actually working in the business even though he knows the business end probably as good as just about anyone who never worked in the business end. Really, aside from Ross, when it comes to the key people, only Keith Mitchell, who heads production, and dates back to the 80s and worked in production everywhere from World Class to WCW to Impact (where he worked until recently) are all new and this is a learning on the job experience. They are working with the Jacksonville Jaguars staff who would have experience in their fields but still would all be new to pro wrestling. Ross mentioned that the company would have a major cable deal that would start in October.

> As far as the announcing team goes, Ross will do the shows, and I’m not certain if he’ll do the complete shows or just the major matches to get them over as special. The their play-to-play guys are Alex Marvez and Excalibur. I’ve known Marvez since he was 16 and he was even involved with the Observer web site before we joined with Bryan Alvarez. He was one of the leading NFL reporters in the country and of late has had a pro football show on Sirius XM. He was the former President of the Pro Football Writers of America. He, like the rest of the guys, knows the wrestling business and was actually really perceptive on it even as a teenager, did one of the best wrestling newsletters in the country when he was very young, and has done plenty of television and radio for football. But he’s never done pro wrestling announcing. Another of Ross’ roles will be to mentor both Marvez and Excalibur.

> On the video where they announced his signing they showed him practicing calling matches which he’s been doing for some time. Marvez hosted both AEW live event rallies with Conrad Thompson. Excalibur, who is one of the key guys in PWG and their announcer, has plenty of experience announcing big matches with the most modern style wrestlers, so he’s well versed on moves, backgrounds and modern psychology. Of late he’s been announcing with New Japan World as well. The big question regarding him is do you go on a major national cable station and a major worldwide station with the announcer wearing a mask or not. He’s good, but they also want to do a sports-oriented wrestling presentation and the masked announcer is campy. Then again, with some of the signings, there is clearly going to be a campy element to the product.

> Alicia Atout will be dong the backstage interviews and Justin Roberts will be the ring announcer. Atout had been working with Impact and she’s a fan, and enthusiastic. Roberts is an experienced top caliber ring announcer.

> Chris Jericho announced the guest list for his 1/20 to 1/24 cruise. Jericho has said the cruise, based on word of mouth from the first one, is already 81 percent sold out and this was before announcing this round of guests. Myself and Bryan Alvarez will be on the cruise and we will be doing our audio shows live for cruise guests. AEW will be part of the cruise and they list AEW talent as being there without listing specific names at this point. The names will be announced closer to sailing but most of the roster will be on the cruise including all of the company’s top guys. All of the matches on the cruise will be filmed for broadcast. Names listed are Ric Flair, Jericho, the band Fozzy (who will be playing), Vickie Guerrero, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, Booker T, Jake Roberts, DDP, Eric Bischoff, Conrad Thompson, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Sharmell, MVP, Lisa Varon, Shaul Guerrero and Ted Irvine (former NHL star and Jericho’s father).

> The 6/29 show in Daytona Beach, which will be the promotion’s second event, is being called Kenny Omega’s Fyter Fest (a spoof of a Netflix movie “Fyre” about the “Fyre Festival,” a disastrous 2017 concert about a totally messed up luxury promotional concert in the Bahamas), a combination gaming and pro wrestling event in conjunction with CEO, the gaming convention that takes place that week. Last year Omega promoted a show at the Ocean Center with New Japan that drew 2,350 fans. They did some very clever marketing around models in bikinis all over the trailer, basically the same trailer as the Netflix movie, with the words that it is unlikely any of these women would be at the event. The show will be an AEW promotion with a main event of Young Bucks & Omega vs. Pentagon Jr & Fenix & Pac. At least as of right now, Jericho wasn’t asked to do the show. His contract has a specified number of dates maximum.

> In Japan, it was reported that Hikaru Shida has signed, which the company confirmed a few days later. I do know that there is a mentality that once they get television that the Japanese women’s style will become the new big thing introduced similar to Nitro with the Mexican stars. That’s the mentality behind the recruitment of Japanese women to the promotion. Shida, 30, is close with Kenny Omega. She was a teenage actress in Japan more than a decade ago who was part of a teen idol group on a popular television show called Muscle Venus in 2008-09, so she was a pop star outside of wrestling before wrestling. The group also recorded one single. Later she did a movie about pro wrestling called Three Count where she had a starring role. She learned pro wrestling for her part in the movie and liked it so much she became a regular pro wrestler. She’s moving to the U.S. so this will now be her base. Hopefully they can get some dates on Meiko Satomura, because she’s an incredible worker and will make everyone she’s in the ring with look that much better.

> Brian “Road Dogg” James stepped down this past week as the co-head writer on Smackdown. James was co-head writer with Steve Guerrieri, better known as Steve G. Steve G rarely went to television, and worked out of Stamford during the week while James would take care of things at television. James wasn’t in the office all the time, but one person in the company noted that he become increasingly frustrated with the hours. He would split time between home in Pensacola and skyping into the meetings that would take place all night, or being in Stamford and attending them live until all hours of the morning. The belief is he became frustrated with working so hard all those hours in putting together a show, only to have the show torn apart and changed by Vince at the production meetings the day of the show. Also, Vince had dressed down James more than once about continuity issues on th show or if someone would point out a problem in the show and he would try to defend it. Vince was riding him hard because James wasn’t able to mask his frustrations while at the dais and the last few weeks in particular were very hard for him.
Brock Lesnar - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:39:57 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6217434 Ignore Report Reply
> the idea the show would not be year-around.
If if does end up seasonal like that it's going to probably die the same death as Lucha Underground
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:42:39 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217436 Ignore Report Reply
> Paul Levesque officially announced the new weekly FS 1 WWE news show that had been talked about since the signing of the FOX deal. The show will air on Tuesday nights and will cover WWE news. As noted before, this is really tricky because ESPN tried a weekly WWE news segment and ended up giving it up because of criticism of being a news channel and not covering actual news. Essentially, the show is the replacement for UFC Tonight. UFC Tonight covered only UFC, not other promotions, but did delve into real news issues such as drug testing, or the class-action lawsuit against the company, even if it was usually with a pro-company slant. But historically, while UFC hardly has the best track record when it comes to coverage as compared to most sports, they are far ahead of WWE in that regard. But any questions about the credibility should be answered ahead of time since there’s no way WWE would allow outsider views or opinions and no way FS 1 will try and be any different.

> It was a well known story that for whatever reason, the star news reporter no UFC Tonight was Ariel Helwani, and one day, for whatever reason, Lorenzo Fertitta wanted him gone, and called up FS 1, and they fired him, which is exactly the opposite of what a real news organization would do. And also it came out it was UFC and not FS 1 that was paying the FS 1 on-air talent on the show, which is something that isn’t supposed to happen on a legitimate news show. But they’ll probably use the show to break some matches and do somewhat out of character while remaining in character interviews. I can’t imagine they’d pretend wrestling was real on such a show, nor would I expect them to slap the audience in the with the idea it isn’t real. But we already saw when Vince McMahon nixed the Talking Smack show because of the feeling guys were being too real, and this would be in front of a much larger audience, so if anything, he’d be more vigilant about it.

> Just days before his daughter went into the WWE Hall of Fame, Alan “Al” Wilson passed away. He was believed to be about 77 years old. Al Wilson was actually a memorable WWE television character in 2002 and 2003. Torrie Wilson was feuding with Dawn Marie and they came up with the idea of a character of Torrie’s father, who Dawn Marie would seduce and it would wind up with a wedding, with the idea that Dawn ends up as Torrie’s stepmother. In the angle, the idea was that Al would die of a heart attack from sex on the wedding night, which would make the feud bigger because Dawn killed Torrie’s father. It was noteworthy because it was one of the first fake deaths of a character in modern pro Wrestling, a business at the time rife with real deaths. Torrie recommended that they use her real father in the role, which lasted abut nine months from introduction to worked death.

> While this has not been confirmed, within the industry the belief is the Usos have signed or at least are staying. One person high up used the term “fairly certain” when talking about them signing a new deal and staying. WWE was offering much bigger money than in the past for talent whose deals were expiring because they can afford it and because of the AEW competition, and the Usos, as a great tag team, were in a great leverage position, as was the recently-signed A.J. Styles. With the kind of money WWE is now offering, I don’t see main roster guys who are in the thick of things leaving in great numbers. There are a few who are tight with AEW management or who are really into wanting to be featured and create a legacy of being top stars and feel that’s not going to happen with them on the main roster who have at least some interest. There are also some in NXT who feel they are more likely to be used well in AEW than the main roster who have expressed interest. A few are leaning toward going when their deals are up, and others are taking a wait-and-see.

> As noted before, the smart play is to wait and see how AEW does on television. If they do well in ratings and present a good product that looks stable, it’s a viable option, but WWE is a lock to make good money and isn’t going anywhere, and they don’t get rid of talent except usually for disciplinary reasons. So if you’re a solid performer and you stay, especially if you’re older and with a family, it’s a solid job to not leave. But people are wired differently and some grew up as WWE fans and only know WWE, and others grew up watching other places, and wanted to be top pro wrestlers and not necessarily “WWE superstars,” but until recently, WWE superstars was the best option unless you weren’t making it there, and liked your New Japan gig or saw the writing on the wall in WWE that you weren’t going to make it and had enough experience, confidence and connections to make it outside on your own.

> Regarding the John Oliver piece from last week, and our article in last week’s issue, Chris Cruise, the former WCW announcer who is also a shop steward for the American Federation of Government Employees union and an active member of SAG-AFTRA since he’s a professional broadcaster, said when I said unions are not the only thing or necessary the key thing, that what I was proposing, which was a more manageable schedule on the main roster and some form of system to cover medical bills later in life from injuries that relate to their wrestling career, a pension plan, and expanding rehab to cover mental issues as well as just for drug addiction, Cruise said he agreed all of those things should be covered, but none of them will without a union. He said he’s continued to push SAG-AFTRA publicly and privately to consider trying to organize pro wrestlers to join the union. He also said it would make sense for wrestlers to try and join the stuntman’s union.

> Howard Finkel, 68, who hadn’t been seen in a long time, was at some of the WWE festivities this past week. He’s wheelchair bound. It’s been known his health situation is pretty bad although it’s largely been kept secretive what happened past Jerry Lawler saying on his podcast that Finkel had suffered a major stroke. It was described to me that everyone was very happy to see him, but also sad because of the condition he was in.

> Arash Markazi of the Los Angeles Times reported the new football stadium in Los Angeles is the frontrunner to get the 2021 WrestleMania.

> The new videos that started this week on television were to build for the return of Wyatt. On the Raw after Mania, they also brought back Zayn and Lars Sullivan and had a cameo of Undertaker. Zayn returned and got the expected big reaction that somebody gets when they come back and are over to the hardcore fan base, worked a match with Balor as a babyface, and lost. Then he did a promo where he turned on the fans. It’s a similar character to Bryan, although Bryan blames the people for eating bad food and ruining the planet while Zayn blames the people for being judgmental and being critics because they’ve never done anything with their own lives. Some fans still cheered him with it and you never know, but that stuff worked to turn Bryan. Zayn was a heel when he left and the way things are right now, he’d have a better shot for being higher on cards as a heel. Sullivan laid out Angle with the freak accident and diving head-butt off the top rope after Angle was getting revenge by putting Corbin in the ankle lock. As noted before, he was scheduled for a huge push at Mania, and most likely was beating Cena on that show. He’s got the look and athletic ability. Undertaker laid out Elias on the show. The feeling was Undertaker’s return would foreshadow his match at the 6/7 Saudi Arabia show but after he basically destroyed Elias like nothing, it’s not like that got me excited to see that match. That said, Undertaker looked in much better shape than in his matches in Saudi Arabia and Australia last year, but he’s still 54 and loaded with decades of injuries.
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:44:57 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217439 Ignore Report Reply
> A&E and WWE are partnering to produce five two-hour pro wrestling documentaries as part of the A&E Biography series. A&E and WWE Studios will be working together on the projects. The five subjects of the films are Randy Savage, Roddy Piper, Booker T, Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels and will air in 2021. Billy Corben, who directed Cocaine Cowboys and Screwball, will direct the Savage film. Joe Lavine, who has won a previous Emmy, will do the Piper piece. George Roy, who directed The Curse of the Bambino and Mayweather and also has won both an Emmy an Peabody, will do the Booker T story.

> A correction from last week. The Fastlane PPV in 2020 will be on 3/15 from Philadelphia, not Toronto. Toronto will be on 3/13, which is the Smackdown show leading into Fastlane.

> Oliver Luck announced an XFL rule change. There will be no kicking for the extra point after touchdowns. Instead, there will be one play from scrimmage. The team has the choice to ask for the ball on the two yard line, which would be worth one point if they score; the five yard line, which will be worth two points; or the ten yard line, which will be worth three points, after the six points for a touchdown.

> Pro Wrestling Sheet reported that Dasha Gonzalez, 30, better known as Dasha Fuentes, was released by WWE, which has been confirmed. They’ve brought in Kayla Braxton and Sarah Schreiber in recent weeks to the main roster to fill her interviewer spot.

> Something is going on with Banks. She missed Raw on Monday and had been scheduled, although schedule changes happen every night. But then she missed an appearance on the Wendy Williams show which she said was due to personal reasons. Then she wrote this: “There is something about the way life happens today that makes it hard to look ahead. There are things that make it difficult to laugh, difficult to live the way you want. There are things that make it almost impossible to trust where you are, or to believe in where you want to be. You look around and life is happening way too fast. Sometimes it feels like the moments are gone. We’re marching towards a destiny we cannot understand, towards the kingdom of convenient. Then one day you look up and you can’t find the meaning. Your crisis of purpose and passion is acting up, but they tell you that that’s supposed to be normal. Well...I don’t want normal. I want magic; cause that’s the place that feels like home to me. That’s the place where I remember what dreams look like, where meaning is effortless, and purpose is simple. That’s the place where love still matters. I want that feeling of coming home again. I want to feel like myself...I want that magic.”

> The people at the Wendy Williams show told the New York Post that she pulled out at the last minute with no good reason and that they would never book her on the show again. “She won’t be booked again,” they quoted someone with the show. “She didn’t give a real reason for canceling, and she did it only hours before the show tapes, so production was left scrambling to fill her spot. Wendy ended up doing an extra segment of Hot Topics instead.” Williams herself on the air said that Banks wasn’t there because of a family emergency and would be invited back. She is right now apparently on a vacation with her husband in the Dominican Republic. .

> According to one person high up, Banks tried to quit over the weekend, as she felt blindsided when finding out at the last minute that they were taking the tag team titles from her and Bayley. She had thought that the two of them would be given a chance to have a strong run and bring credibility to the belts and establish them as serious belts. Then the decision was made to go to the Iiconics, who as champions, could only make the belts seem like gimmick comedy belts. Basically she has been given a few weeks to think things out before sticking to a choice the company believes may have been made as a rash decision. Anyway, that’s been largely confirmed by others but probably will be denied very quickly. A second person said she’s been given time to figure out what she wants to do, whether stay or go, but couldn’t confirm the reason why, but said that she probably wouldn’t have known the finish of that match until late and did believe she and Bayley were going to be given a shot at making the belts mean something. It was noted in particular that the storyline of defending them on Raw, Smackdown and NXT started, so it was logical for them to assume a run of defending in all those places. A third person just said she was clearly unhappy.

> WWE announced that a number of matches taped at Axxess would be on the network over the next few weeks in different forms. On 4/14 at 8 p.m. Eastern a show called NXT vs. NXT Alumni will feature Roderick Strong vs Tyler Breeze, Dominik Dijakovic vs. Harper, Sanity vs. Undisputed Era and Aiden English vs. Kassius Ohno. 4/17 at 9 p.m. will be a cruiserweight show with Tyler Bate vs. Brian Kendrick, Akira Tozawa vs. Jordan Devlin, Flash Morgan Webster & Mark Andrews vs. Ariya Daivari & Mike Kanellis and Albert Hardie Jr. vs. El Ligero vs. Gran Metalik. 4/24 at 9 p.m. will be Women Collide with Io Shirai vs. Deville, Toni Storm vs. Nikki Cross vs. Bianca Belair, Piper Niven vs. Vega and Candice LeRae vs. Kay Lee Ray. 5/1 at 9 p.m. will a Battle Royal with wrestlers from 205 Live, NXT and NXT U.K.

> Regarding the Bret Hart vs. Tom Magee match, WWE has asked for the footage and wants to do a feature on it. Mary Kate Anthony, who has the VHS tape (Bret Hart should have the DVD) said that as long as Hart is fine with the footage being shared, since it’s his tape and she was just there to transfer it to DVD many years ago, then she would do so and send it to WWE. The thing is, Hart doesn’t own the rights to his WWE footage as far as I know, unless they made some sort of a deal, nobody owns WWE footage rights other than WWE. WWE did give Hart a copy of it for his own personal collection and then apparently somehow either lost or got rid of it. The only tapes Hart owns are the Stampede Wrestling tapes that feature him, since Ross Hart and the family were not allowed to sell anything regarding Bret, because of Bret getting ownership of it in a deal with his father, when the collection was sold to WWE. That held up a lot of the release of Stampede shows that feature Bret on them.

> Zack Ryder (Matt Cardona, 33) and girlfriend Chelsea Green, 28, were engaged this past week. The two have been a couple for some time. Green, who is out of action after wrist surgery, made her name in Impact and recent started with NXT.

> William Regal was scouting at the Bloodsport show in New Jersey this past weekend. Dean Ambrose was also at that show.
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:46:21 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217440 Ignore Report Reply
> The WWE did a fan focus group on 4/8 after WrestleMania . They only invited eight fans to participate, and as it turned out, two of the eight were Observer subscribers. All eight were said to be very smart to the business, all huge WWE fans and all were aware of the company’s faults, and none of the eight came off like fan boys based on what we were told. The main discussion was what happened during the week. The general consensus of the group was that the New York/New Jersey location was bad, due to hard to navigate public transportation, that Fan Axxess on the Brooklyn Pier was in a hard to get to location. The WWE was asking questions as to how important they felt the Hall of Fame was to the weekend, which is notable because next year they have to decide whether to hold the Hall of Fame on Thursday, Tuesday, or do it at another time of the year or in a different type of setting. As one would expect, the main take across the board was that the show was too long and the post-show public transportation issue was a nightmare.

> The latest advertising for Extreme Rules on 7/14 in Philadelphia is Rollins vs. McIntyre for the title and Reigns vs. Corbin.

> The stock had a big week, whether it was WrestleMania momentum making the company look stronger or analysts thinking it would top $100, but it’s back up to $94.18 per share, giving the company a $7.350 billion market value.

> The most-watched shows on WWE Network in the week where viewership is by far the highest was: 1. WrestleMania; 2. WrestleMania kickoff show; 3. Hall of Fame; 4. Takeover New York; 5. How Sting debuted in WWE; 6. Ride Along with New Day, Andrade and Zelina Vega; 7. WWE Chronicle: Charlotte Flair; 8. Hall of Fame red carpet ceremony; 9. Table for 3 with Johnny Gargano, Adam Cole and Ricochet; 10. NXT pre-game show. With all the Mania, Hall of Fame and Takeover related programming, the viewership for the regular weekly shows was way down. NXT on 4/3 was only in 15th place, behind lots of old shows as well. 205 Live on 4/2 was in 17th place and WWE U.K. on 4/3 was in 19th place. The only real key take is that the Hall of Fame beat Takeover in viewership, but that also could be because the Hall of Fame ended up being a legit national news story because of the attack on Bret Hart would curious people to watch the replay. But still, the Hall of Fame pre-show beat the NXT pre-show.

> Brandon Thurston at Fightful.com did an analysis that it would cost the company $28.5 million annually (which is actually a high estimate as we’d have it at $22.6 million) to make their wrestlers employees rather than independent contractors, like athletes in the major sports leagues are listed as. Given the WWE’s $178.9 million in OIBDA, a number that many analysts believe will top $500 million in 2020, that would be an easily affordable expense. Using the IRS’ ten-point test to determine whether someone is an independent contractor or an employee, pro wrestlers with WWE qualify on eight of the ten points, and debatably on a ninth, when generally, five or six of the ten makes you an employee. As noted before, the number of WWE pro wrestlers in the grand scheme of things is so small that it’s a fight that nobody has bothered in politics to touch because they’d be accused of wasting their time worrying about such a small number of fake actors.

> If we go with the idea that wrestlers are getting eight percent of the current revenue, which would make a $72 million payroll, the contributions to FICA tax, Medicare tax, unemployment tax and Connecticut state tax would be $2.36 million. Howard listed $3.6 million when he figured his numbers based on $118 million in salary payments to talent., estimating it at 13 percent. He estimated giving the wrestlers health insurance would be $25,000 per wrestler per year with 215 wrestlers under contract, or $5.4 million. If a retirement plan consists of five percent, when he figured it based on $118 million in salaries as just under $6 million, although it’s more likely closer to $3.6 million. He estimated $8.3 million in 401K based on seven percent, but seven percent of $72 million is $5 million.

> He also estimated based on the number of performers on the road, based on numbers of $315 per night for a hotel room (which sounds extremely high to me on average), $100 per day for meals (also high, as wrestlers are usually not eating in fancy restaurants regularly since the majority watch their diets closely and dinner at Chipotle’s a favorite of a lot of the talent because it’s quick and healthy, is not that expensive), $65 per day for rental cars (again high since most don’t travel on their own and usually travel in groups cutting way down the average expense per day although the per day for the car would actually be higher if someone travels alone), $28 in fuel and tolls (again a high number on average because of people traveling together) and $15 per day for gym fees they would list $5.23 million.

> This is harder to estimate but my feeling is the total would also be significantly lower. One WWE star told us the daily hotel average is about $150, the food estimate isn’t that far off, rental cars can be higher, plus even though plane tickets are covered, talent has to pay baggage fees to check bags for the trip which would be about $25 per flight, there are either parking fees at the airport or Uber fees going to and from the airport which would be $50 to $100 per week, not to mention wrestlers being unique for uniformed and costumed performers as far as having to pay for their own gear and boots, plus there is the expense of makeup and tanning no the road and clothing because WWE requires having to look professional on the road and show up at the arena in dress clothes unless you are a performer with a gimmick that gives you an exemption.

> The NXT crew, because they earn far less in salary, when they go on the road outside of Florida their expenses are taken care of as far as hotels, as the company has them all staying at the same hotel, like a sport team would, and picks up the bill. They are also bussed together going from city-to-city, again, just like a sports team would be, so the idea that it can’t be done or there is something wrong and wrestling is different, God only knows why, is more because even though nearly every touring sports and entertainment like franchise of even close to the same market value does exactly that, WWE’s main roster doesn’t simply based on the idea when wrestling was a hand-to-mouth business they didn’t do it that way and, like with pay based on the houses, it’s a system that made sense but hasn’t for a long time but simply never got changed.
The Mantaur - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:56:45 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217448 Ignore Report Reply
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> Tony Nese beat Buddy Murphy to win the cruiserweight title in 10:42. ***1/2
> Carmella won the women’s Battle Royal in 10:25. **1/4
> Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder won the Raw tag titles over The Revival in 13:18. ***
> Braun Strowman won the Andre the Giant Battle Royal in 10:21. *1/2
> Seth Rollins pinned Brock Lesnar to win the Universal title in 2:29. ***1/2
> A.J. Styles pinned Randy Orton in 16:11. ***1/4
> Jimmy & Jey Uso retained the Smackdown tag titles in a four-way over Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura, Aleister Black & Ricochet and Sheamus & Cesaro in 10:06. ***3/4
> Shane McMahon pinned The Miz in a falls count anywhere match in 15:25. *3/4
> Billie Kay & Peyton Royce won the women’s tag team title in a four-way over champions Bayley & Sasha Banks, Natalya & Beth Phoenix and Nia Jax & Tamina in 10:46. *1/4
> Kofi Kingston pinned Daniel Bryan in 23:44 to win the WWE title. ****1/2
> Samoa Joe retained the U.S. title over Rey Mysterio in :59. NOT RATED
> Roman Reigns pinned Drew McIntyre in 10:07. **
> HHH pinned Batista in 24:43 of a no holds barred match with HHH’s career stake. **
> Baron Corbin pinned Kurt Angle in 5:51. *
> Demon Finn Balor pinned Bobby Lashley in 4:01 to win the IC title. *1/4
> Becky Lynch won a three-way over Raw women’s champion Ronda Rousey and Smackdown champion Charlotte Flair in the winner-take-all title match in 21:27. ***

> Jenny Rose & Kagetsu & Hazuki beat Sumie Sakai & Stella Gray & Hana Kimura in 6:46. **1/4
> Kenny King won the 31 man Honor Rumble in 42:21. *
> Jeff Cobb pinned Will Ospreay in 12:52 in a match for both Cobb’s ROH TV title and Ospreay’s Never Open weight title. ****
> Rush pinned Dalton Castle in :15. NOT RATED
> Kelly Klein beat Mayu Iwatani in 10:38 to win the WOH title. **
> Mark Haskins & Juice Robinson & Flip Gordon beat Bully Ray & Silas Young & Shane Taylor in a street fight in 15:04. *1/2
> Dragon Lee won the IWGP jr. title in a three-way over champion Taiji Ishimori and Bandido in 8:54. ****
> Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa retained the IWGP tag titles and won the ROH tag title over Brody King & PCO, in a match that also included Mark & Jay Briscoe and Evil & Sanada in 9:45. ***1/2
> Zack Sabre Jr. beat Hiroshi Tanahashi in 15:14 to retain the U.K. title. ****
> Kota Ibushi pinned Tetsuya Naito in 20:53 to win the IC title. ****1/2
> Matt Taven won a ladder match to take the ROH title from Jay Lethal, in a three-way with Marty Scurll in 29:35. ***1/2
> Kazuchika Okada won the IWGP title from Jay White in 32:33. ****3/4

> War Raiders retained the NXT tag titles over Ricochet & Aleister Black in 18:38. ****1/2
> Velveteen Dream retained the North American title over Matt Riddle in 17:32. ****1/2
> Walter won the NXT U.K. title from Pete Dunne in 25:30. ****3/4
> Shayna Baszler retained the NXT women’s title in a four-way over Bianca Belair, Kairi Sane and Io Shirai in 15:39. ***3/4
> Johnny Gargano won the vacant NXT title beating Adam Cole in a 2/3 fall match in 38:07. *****1/2 FIVE AND A HALF STAR MATCH

> Masato Tanaka pinned Eddie Kingston in 8:00. **1/2
> Fenix pinned Pentagon Jr. in 7:00. ***1/2
> Tajiri & DJZ & Puma King & Samantha Heights beat LAX & Sammy Guevara & Diamante in 12:02. ***1/2
> Robbie Eagles won a three-way over Arez and Flamita in 6:51. ***1/4
> Jushin Liger & X-Pac & Hurricane Helms beat Caleb Konley & Jake Manning & Zane Riley in 13:36. **
> Dragon Lee pinned Cavernario in 12:21. ****1/4
> Zack Sabre Jr. beat Shane Strickland in 16:41. ***3/4
> Christopher Daniels & Scorpio Sky & Frankie Kazarian beat Orange Cassidy & Chuckie T & Baretta in 18:20. **1/2
> Will Ospreay pinned Bandido in 16:48. ****3/4
Call-Me-Kevin - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:57:20 EST ID:pL74TnH+ No.6217449 Ignore Report Reply
>those star ratings

I don't really give a poop about Dave's opinions, but Gargano/Cole being the highest rated WWE match ever is insane to me. He's way too generous with these NXT/WM snowflakes.


lmao please leave. Good riddance. Enough of this mark.
The People - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:00:55 EST ID:2LWV59Kv No.6217454 Ignore Report Reply
Carmella winning a shit battle royal was better than Roman/McIntyre and Haitch/Batista
No image can properly showcase how many keks I have right now
Greg Gagne - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:00:59 EST ID:CwL37hf7 No.6217455 Ignore Report Reply
>Lesnar match rated higher than Miz match

Meltzer has lost his damn mind.
New Jack - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:04:53 EST ID:rWWSIM8P No.6217460 Ignore Report Reply
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dat Haitch rating
Rowdy Roddy Piper - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:05:49 EST ID:cgormx+g No.6217461 Ignore Report Reply
Did Meltzer even watch Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan?
Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:07:47 EST ID:aYdd1DeT No.6217462 Ignore Report Reply
>Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder won the Raw tag titles over The Revival in 13:18. ***
Now that's a burial.
Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:12:00 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6217465 Ignore Report Reply
>the highest rated WWE match ever
It's all on a curve though. It's not judged against Austin vs Hart. It's judged against it's contemporary matches. This basically means it's better than okada vs white, but they're both must watch matches.
Tony Mamaluke - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:16:53 EST ID:js2f5CY0 No.6217467 Ignore Report Reply
I may have missed it but did Dave rate any other shows during Mania weekend?
Hercules - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:17:50 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6217469 Ignore Report Reply
I really liked Gargano/Cole and all but no way was it better than Kofi/Bryan
Call-Me-Kevin - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:23:57 EST ID:pL74TnH+ No.6217477 Ignore Report Reply
kind of ridiculous logic that no other media or art uses, but ok. Fair. I don't even think it's better than its contemporaries, though. But whatever, Dave gonna Dave.
Consequences Creed - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:26:20 EST ID:yXwqW08L No.6217480 Ignore Report Reply
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According to Slice Wrestling, AEW have offered Dean Ambrose a $6 million a year contract. Meaning he’d be earning more than both Rollins & Reigns
Call-Me-Kevin - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:29:03 EST ID:pL74TnH+ No.6217483 Ignore Report Reply
>Slice Wrestling

Huh? Anyways, please no. I want to be able to watch AEW and enjoy it. Bad enough that Cody is gonna be all over it.
Steve Corino - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:29:19 EST ID:yCw7X2Jg No.6217484 Ignore Report Reply
hahhahhah based
Big John Studd - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:29:40 EST ID:xx3O85Ks No.6217485 Ignore Report Reply
Cool. Hopefully this means Seth and Roman get even more the next time they're contacts are up.
Tursas - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:34:53 EST ID:5FfIaySb No.6217490 Ignore Report Reply
>According to Slice Wrestling
Don't we have enough dirtsheet generators role-playing on twitter already?
Spice - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:35:26 EST ID:epto/g1+ No.6217492 Ignore Report Reply
I don't know if you're upset because your favorite match didn't get enough snowflakes or if you're too dumb to understand what Dave's ratings represent.

How many stars did the Mona Lisa get? What about the persistence of memory?
Call-Me-Kevin - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:39:46 EST ID:pL74TnH+ No.6217494 Ignore Report Reply
lmao shut up, dork. I don't even give a shit either way. Did your gay-for-Meltzer radar go off at any vague criticism? Insufferable wrestling nerds are brutal to interact with.
Hardcore Holly - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:44:14 EST ID:FmMQahHC No.6217497 Ignore Report Reply
a lot of music and movie critics use the star system review
Latin Lover - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:45:48 EST ID:ViO7GDWz No.6217498 Ignore Report Reply
You obviously do. Get help man. Seriously.
Shawn Michaels - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:47:59 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6217501 Ignore Report Reply
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>The two will use the names nZo and CazXL and their tag team name will be the Free AgentZ

Tursas - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:51:26 EST ID:5FfIaySb No.6217503 Ignore Report Reply
>IWGP Tag Champions Free AgentZ
Kerry Von Erich - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:02:26 EST ID:bAtnIUbl No.6217523 Ignore Report Reply
>How many stars did the Mona Lisa get?

2 1/2 from Dave Meltziorri, Renaissance Observer Newsparchment
Anthony Nese - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:07:02 EST ID:xSwEo6lu No.6217528 Ignore Report Reply
>Slice Wrestling

I'm 99% sure the owner of this shit once came to /wooo/ and larped as some super insider.

Either way, fuck off.
Jimmy Jacobs - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:10:43 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6217529 Ignore Report Reply
The funniest shit about this gif is they have her fall a few from a long ways up from a parking lot and the guy comes up to her and goes "I thought you were dead"

Ric Flair - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:13:42 EST ID:QfdOh4Ns No.6217530 Ignore Report Reply
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>Lesnar/Seth, HHH/Tista, AJ/Orton, and Roman/Drew matches higher than Miz/Shane

This guy is literally insane. Also putting the Lesnar/Seth match above the Raw tag team match is a fucking joke.
Shawn Michaels - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:18:22 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6217532 Ignore Report Reply
The Great Kabuki - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:18:35 EST ID:kNrN83D/ No.6217533 Ignore Report Reply
Was I missing something with The Miz match? It was a nice change of pace on a card that was all essentially the same, but that doens't mean it was any good. It had Shane McMahon throwing punches. That automatically starts in the negatives.
Jetta - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:18:38 EST ID:xVJd62f9 No.6217534 Ignore Report Reply

> While this has not been confirmed, within the industry the belief is the Usos have signed or at least are staying. One person high up used the term “fairly certain” when talking about them signing a new deal and staying.

I thought it was official that Usos re-signed
CIMA - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:24:27 EST ID:kCVS6iB5 No.6217537 Ignore Report Reply
> Another incident took place before the show. Pat McAfee, the former NFL player who worked on the pregame show, was told no jorts. So he came out with tuxedo pants that were cut into shorts. Michael Cole, who is in charge of the announcers, saw him in the shorts backstage and started yelling at him in front of for looking unprofessional. McAfee said he nearly quit right there. In fact, he went to his dressing room and started packing his things to leave. When somebody saw him packing and asked why he was packing before the show, he said, “You can tell Michael Cole to go f*** himself. I’m leaving. I’m not getting punked and yelled at like a child in front of everybody like that.” Vince McMahon was told about it. He called McAfee in and McAfee apparently had a photo of Lebron James wearing the same type of shorts with a suit. And well, you know, if Lebron does it, it makes it fashionable and not unprofessional. Vince claimed he knows what’s hip and told McAfee he was cool wearing them. Cole then had to apologize to him.

WWE needs more guys Pat McAfee. The locker room must be completely spineless outside of him.
CIMA - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:25:20 EST ID:kCVS6iB5 No.6217538 Ignore Report Reply
and inb4 "he's not in the locker room" i know, but you get my point nb
Steve Corino - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:26:06 EST ID:yCw7X2Jg No.6217539 Ignore Report Reply
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LOLROH, LOLELIDRAKE and LOLSASHA up in this bitch.
L89 - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:49:03 EST ID:FOMu6lSt No.6217556 Ignore Report Reply
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I did it again, guys!
CIMA - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:50:11 EST ID:kCVS6iB5 No.6217559 Ignore Report Reply
>[Rousey] may come back for limited shows like John Cena, or even more limited like Brock Lesnar, or not at all.

That really narrows it down, Dave.
Icarus - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 23:03:10 EST ID:1AnDr3ro No.6217565 Ignore Report Reply
>slice wrestling
literally fucking who
Rain - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 23:07:35 EST ID:1fiOQWrJ No.6217567 Ignore Report Reply
No Sistine Chapel.
Madusa - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 23:31:41 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6217575 Ignore Report Reply
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I would like to nominate my bigfoot-style creepshot of Meltzer I took at one of the mania-related shows a couple of years back
Madusa - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 23:32:29 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6217577 Ignore Report Reply
oops didn't finish
for an upcoming Metlzer/sheetz thread, I mean
Ricky Steamboat - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:13:51 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6217666 Ignore Report Reply
watch out you've criticised Dave's illogical rating system. The Meltzer defence force have been alerted
Blackjack Lanza - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:23:36 EST ID:Pg7lBld+ No.6217667 Ignore Report Reply
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>ACH vs. El Ligero vs. Gran Metalik
Alberto Del Rio - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:56:01 EST ID:Jq9kpJZ4 No.6217681 Ignore Report Reply
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>Heel ref Tirantes announced on 3/29 that he is no longer with the promotion.
Trish Stratus - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:40:49 EST ID:cvrgFYsJ No.6217694 Ignore Report Reply
>muh defense force strawman
Yeah, because anyone that dares to disagree with an idiotic take must be part of a defense force
Hulk Hogan - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:57:47 EST ID:Xa7kTuH3 No.6217700 Ignore Report Reply
SoCal Val - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:22:34 EST ID:c1XNQb/6 No.6217727 Ignore Report Reply
>not wanting to watch an unshackled Deano

Gerald Brisco - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:34:54 EST ID:vNMLKmU6 No.6217732 Ignore Report Reply
Five star pic right here
Starman - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:37:44 EST ID:FT7fbyfG No.6217736 Ignore Report Reply
uh, explain joke? Please?
Gerald Brisco - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:39:50 EST ID:vNMLKmU6 No.6217737 Ignore Report Reply
Watch yer Bigfoot tapes kid
Super Strong Machine - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:45:22 EST ID:g5pcRLn8 No.6217744 Ignore Report Reply
>ratings come out
>people say they don't matter and are just his opinion
>event happens
>people wait for his ratings
Al Snow - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:20:04 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6217761 Ignore Report Reply
>They saw it, looked like they were mildly disgusted by it, didn’t fall for it and just walked away.

>Tonga even tweeted sort of about it, just saying Enzo & Cass jumped the losers of the match not the winner and called it “ROH booking at its finest.”

Little Egypt - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:48:32 EST ID:q76WYIAV No.6217781 Ignore Report Reply
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Marchie Archie just got fired from WWE because Vince is petty.

>Fightful.com noted the following regarding WWE creative team member RD Evans being fired by WWE for producing Bret Hart's speech that included a reference to Vince McMahon:

>"When Evans found out that McMahon was upset that he was mentioned, he walked into Gorilla position, shook Vince's hand and quit."

>One person in attendance told F4WOnline.com that Evans quit first when it became apparent that he was about to be fired. The belief is that the fan attack on Bret Hart made a tense atmosphere backstage even worse.

>F4WOnline.com also noted that Vince McMahon gave D-Generation X permission to make fun of the situation.
Anthony Nese - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:52:11 EST ID:xSwEo6lu No.6217784 Ignore Report Reply
as stupid as that seems, she's suppose to review the scripts before he sends them out. if Vince doesn't want his name mentioned, he's suppose to stop Bret from mentioning him
Midajah - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 11:14:07 EST ID:uCowfzEY No.6217791 Ignore Report Reply
RD quit before Vince could fire him. Massive dick energy move right there, stealing that gratification and power from Vince. Based Archie.
Chris Benoit - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:30:00 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6217823 Ignore Report Reply
He said he quit, and Alvarez reported that multiple sources told him that he quit.
Kharma - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:05:04 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6217869 Ignore Report Reply
>Pro Wrestling Sheet has learned Nia Jax will be out of action for awhile due to injury.

>According to sources, Jax is suffering from ACL tears in both of her knees and she’ll need to go under the knife to repair them.

>No word on how long she’ll be out, but it sometimes it takes up to nine months before full range of motion and stability is regained in the knee joint.

>Jax tweeted a photo of herself on Friday and captioned the picture, “I’ll be gone for a while. Here’s something to remember me by.”

>Nia was last in the ring at WrestleMania in a fatal four-way match for the Women’s Tag Team titles.
Gerald Brisco - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:08:35 EST ID:umVpROFo No.6217871 Ignore Report Reply
Whata fuck is going whit WWE? Bodycount of WM is massive. AJ, DB, Big E, Nia, Sasha( not injured but out). Then there is previus ones.
Gorgeous George - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:10:14 EST ID:N/yqlAdc No.6217872 Ignore Report Reply
>claims to be the safest style in wrestling
>has more injuries than any other promotion
Stop making wrestlers work several matches a week Vince you dipshit retard.
Larry Zbyszko - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:16:41 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6217874 Ignore Report Reply
A net gain for the women's roster in terms of injuries.
Little Egypt - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:19:22 EST ID:q76WYIAV No.6217875 Ignore Report Reply
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just think about how fat she's gonna get sitting on her ass for the next year
P.N. News - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:23:03 EST ID:ilAsJXML No.6217878 Ignore Report Reply
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That's what happens when women use their knees in ways God didn't intend.
El Mesias - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:44:49 EST ID:Lm7TyJE7 No.6217884 Ignore Report Reply
Is Bryan confirmed injured?
Brock Lesnar - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:58:25 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6217889 Ignore Report Reply
I didn't see the match, did she have a brutal landing or something?
Danny Doring - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:15:44 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6217892 Ignore Report Reply
>Tamina passed on her knee injuries to her tag team partner
Bruno Sammartino - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:48:05 EST ID:GlDHuoLX No.6217902 Ignore Report Reply
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>just think about how fat she's gonna get sitting on her ass for the next year
>nia jax coming back with an even fatter ass

good fucking lord.
Tursas - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:57:59 EST ID:5FfIaySb No.6217905 Ignore Report Reply
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I vaguely remember Nia Jax actually attempting the top turnbuckle frog splash that Tamina uses.

All that weight isn't good for the LAYGZ either way.
CIMA - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:05:22 EST ID:kCVS6iB5 No.6217912 Ignore Report Reply
damn she's got Gumby legs
The Great Kabuki - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:19:51 EST ID:kNrN83D/ No.6217921 Ignore Report Reply
Fucking Based. Keep her as a PR person for positive body images or whatever, but keep her ass out of the ring.
The Mantaur - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:44:51 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6217934 Ignore Report Reply
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Fuck off with that positive PR shit. She's morbidly obese and a dangerous worker, only given a chance and brought up to the main roster quickly because of who she is related to. Enough is enough, time to get rid of her.
The Rock - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:52:21 EST ID:8Ke2r6W+ No.6217940 Ignore Report Reply
There's literally nothing positive about being fat.
Starman - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:54:22 EST ID:FT7fbyfG No.6217942 Ignore Report Reply
AJ, DB and E are injured? What?
Tursas - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:58:36 EST ID:5FfIaySb No.6217946 Ignore Report Reply
Sprained back, should be back in action soon
Went home after Mania according to Meltzer, no word on what's happening with him.
Meniscus injury, out of action for a month or so.
Damien Demento - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:02:40 EST ID:Exyn5/Kp No.6217949 Ignore Report Reply
Wrestlemania Week Injuries list:

Ronda Rousey
Big E
Rey Mysterio
Nia Jaxx
Chris Benoit - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:10:58 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6217955 Ignore Report Reply
If injured feelings count, you can add Sasha to the list
Starman - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:49:07 EST ID:FT7fbyfG No.6217973 Ignore Report Reply
Jesus christ. I don't remember this kind of PPV fallout since that once early 10's chamber match where everyone was banged up, Kofi cut up his head on the outside steel part of the chamber, Punk cut his leg somewhere and some other shit happened.
The Mantaur - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:57:35 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6218044 Ignore Report Reply
The longer the show, the more the injuries.
Tony Schiavone - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 20:07:05 EST ID:kNrN83D/ No.6218053 Ignore Report Reply

I fucking agree, but they literally put her over at Mania 34 so she can be a "positive, alternative role model" for children. I'd rather she do shit like that for the company than stink up the ring.
Necro Butcher - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 20:22:08 EST ID:X/HyVc9O No.6218064 Ignore Report Reply
But she'd be the exact opposite of a role model. She needs to come back thinner (ie healthy) and then she can be a role model. Being fat should never be something associated with the word "positive", let alone be encouraged.
Tony Schiavone - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 20:27:19 EST ID:kNrN83D/ No.6218069 Ignore Report Reply

Now don't actually watch this shit, but it's clear they love her size for interviews and Be a Star speeches. Remember the promo she cut at Backlash after she beat Alexa?
Tully Blanchard - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:57:43 EST ID:/IlaUcjc No.6218121 Ignore Report Reply
She got booed out of the building for that promo
Fatt Lardy - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:08:51 EST ID:E7Bn/lFw No.6218190 Ignore Report Reply

As are the fans who think they're better than others because they disagree with them.
Sarita - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 13:24:23 EST ID:qmaPPgS2 No.6218357 Ignore Report Reply
Weird that Dave rated Walter vs Dunne higher than Dream vs Riddle. He seemed kinda unimpressed by Walter vs Dunne on WOR.
Ernest The Cat Miller - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 14:42:47 EST ID:xSwEo6lu No.6218370 Ignore Report Reply
I thought Walter Dunne was 5 stars easy
Lena Yada - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 16:10:15 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6218399 Ignore Report Reply
The last quarter or half of the match was 5 stars. The beginning was not.
Bob Backlund - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 17:01:27 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6218413 Ignore Report Reply
>gargano/Cole is the best match in WWE history

Oh Dave
Mt. Fiji - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 20:32:56 EST ID:bpwUf1a3 No.6218490 Ignore Report Reply
haven't had internet in a week
is gargano/cole really the best match in wwe history
Kevin Thorn - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 20:36:50 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6218493 Ignore Report Reply
Objectively no
Michael Tarver - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 20:38:47 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6218494 Ignore Report Reply
subjectively yes
Jun Akiyama - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 20:40:27 EST ID:5FfIaySb No.6218497 Ignore Report Reply
morally maybe
Akebono - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:08:27 EST ID:KppEo4Ev No.6218505 Ignore Report Reply
Quantumly both yes and no
Grizzly Redwood - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:14:35 EST ID:ECPVV2LS No.6218845 Ignore Report Reply
The playlist. SHES GONE.
Icarus - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:36:44 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6218866 Ignore Report Reply
just came here to post that
real dad deleted it again
Michael Tarver - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:42:26 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6218869 Ignore Report Reply
>The playlist does not exist.
Shikamaru !rpuvCQools - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:51:31 EST ID:/xFUVGX9 No.6218872 Ignore Report Reply
Today was my binge catchup day.

X-Pac - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:53:32 EST ID:dy5bnKju No.6218874 Ignore Report Reply
spergs reporting stuff, current files still up in the tube for now
Serena Deeb - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:19:11 EST ID:HF7Nhajt No.6218884 Ignore Report Reply
Honestly, with the last 15-20 it could be, but the first 2 falls being absolutely nothing bring it down some.
Dean Malenko - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 21:02:33 EST ID:L3V1MOPK No.6218918 Ignore Report Reply
I assume you mean wootube but /r/R_Dad tube is password protected
Dump Matsumoto - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 21:57:14 EST ID:fttKGfEO No.6218942 Ignore Report Reply
I haven't read this thead yet or any posts in it. That being said, how does it make you feel that Rousey is a future hall of famer?
Luke Gallows - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:22:08 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6218949 Ignore Report Reply
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tbh she's the 4th most deserving celebrity after Lauper, T, and Donald
Giant Baba - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:29:24 EST ID:rrDA6lpg No.6218954 Ignore Report Reply
Doesn't bother me. She was a big name, came in and worked more than other celebrity/sports people of her stature do in wrestling. Not a lot to complain about.
Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:29:27 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6218955 Report Reply
Petey was still attacking me somehow.
Jimmy Wang Yang - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:32:31 EST ID:1x1xN/No No.6218959 Ignore Report Reply

No she's not. Rousey was an actual wrestler, a champion, had a win streak, wrestled on multiple PPV's, and main evented a Mania. Even if that means nothing, in the WWE, she's the most legit celebrity they've ever had.

Only Lauper and Mike Tyson added actual value to the show and brought eyes to the product. Donny hosted a few Manias and was involved in a few dumb angles, but did nothing to truly shit up the show, other than taking a lousy stunner and being total shit at worked punches. Mr. T boxed and hung out with Hogan and then shit it up 15 years later in WCW.
Barry Windham - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:54:12 EST ID:dy5bnKju No.6218966 Ignore Report Reply
youre in the old channel
Lin Bairon - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:04:46 EST ID:FPl27Zlh No.6218968 Ignore Report Reply
whats the new one
Luke Gallows - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:19:08 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6218971 Ignore Report Reply
I'm not a fanboy of Donald but he was a big money draw that mania
Ronda didn't bump views nearly as much
I forgot about Tyson, I'll rank Ronda 5th then
Leatherface - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:12:26 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6218983 Ignore Report Reply
What about L.T.?
Barry Windham - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:25:07 EST ID:dy5bnKju No.6218985 Ignore Report Reply
Dawn Marie - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:24:49 EST ID:UPNMb1UH No.6219102 Ignore Report Reply
Could you reword that for morons like me
Jimmy Jacobs - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:17:28 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6219119 Ignore Report Reply
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Rovert lore I saw on squaredcircle
Top kek
Michael Nakazawa - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:34:18 EST ID:jCH8J3Fu No.6219121 Ignore Report Reply
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So did ANYTHING happen with this other than a few talents renewing their deals?
Homicide - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:46:02 EST ID:JSKdsWJp No.6219125 Ignore Report Reply
I can’t figure out what to do with this. Goes to a weird subleddit.
Kofi Kingston - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:26:23 EST ID:50s7N3fT No.6219138 Ignore Report Reply
What the fuck is Real Dad's problem?
Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:29:35 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6219141 Ignore Report Reply
cytube, not taima

his shit gets reported by narcs, he has to remove them and what not.
WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:51:33 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.6219151 Ignore Report Reply
Punishment Martinez has undergone a name change: he is now Damien Priest

That's a step up if you ask me.
CaliJester - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:05:56 EST ID:Mno4Uvlm No.6219156 Ignore Report Reply
What a great name.
Luke Gallows - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:07:17 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6219160 Ignore Report Reply
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Disagree, new name is same tier as pic related
Jimmy Jacobs - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:07:57 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6219162 Ignore Report Reply
meh, a step down for me
Hajime Ohara - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:09:58 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6219165 Ignore Report Reply
well it's better than Jaxson Ryker
Mikey - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:14:40 EST ID:bf8hQfxC No.6219168 Ignore Report Reply
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> Legal representation for Anthem and Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Entertainment had a telephone meeting this past Friday 4/12 in an attempt to come to a settlement in the lawsuit Jarrett brought against Anthem last year but were unable to do so despite "a good faith attempt to resolve this case", PWInsider.com has confirmed. The day before, Thursday 4/11, Jarrett's legal team responded to Anthem's latest attempt to have the lawsuit dismissed from the Tennessee Middle District Court.

> In that response, Jarrett's team noted, "This case presents a unique issue. In anticipation of a merger that ultimately failed, Defendants came into possession of the only copies of master recordings of the sixteen (16) one-hour episodes (the “Episodes”) of Global Force Wrestling (“GFW”) AMPED content (the “Masters”) at issue. There is and can be no dispute that Defendants (1) had the only copy of the Masters and (2) destroyed the Masters. Plaintiffs have alleged each one-hour episode in the Masters is worth up to $300,000." It was noted that Jarrett's attorneys attempted to find a similar case on record and was unable to do so. It was noted that the damages exceed the jurisdictional amount for diversity jurisdiction and argued that even if other aspects of the lawsuit are dismissed, that allegations of conversion and negligence should be allowed to stand and go forward.

> In regard to Anthem's claim that they had an implied license to use the GFW Amped masters, Jarrett's attorneys argued that Anthem "must carry the burden of proving the existence of an implied license as an affirmative defense to Plaintiffs’ copyright and trademark infringement claims, which they have failed to do." Jarrett's attorneys stated, "The only reason Defendants ever came into possession of the Masters was in anticipation of a merger that ultimately failed. In addition, Plaintiffs have always exclusively owned the GFW marks. Plaintiffs’ Masters and trademarks are being used without payment or Plaintiffs’ involvement in a manner they never intended. Neither the allegations in the Second Amended Complaint nor the evidence submitted by Defendants permit or support an inference of an implied license. At best, such question is not one appropriate for a Rule 12 motion without the benefit of discovery and may even be a question for trial."

> Jarrett's attorneys also argued that the claims brought by Jarrett about the trademark to his name, which Anthem currently legally owns after ownership of existing trademarks held by Impact Wrestling were transferred to Anthem after they took control of the company from Dixie Carter after calling in debts Carter's company had accrued following loans should be heard. They argued that Anthem hasn't attempted to use the trademark in several years and have no intentions to.

> Jarrett's attorneys also argued, "Defendants fail to address the distinction between a trade name and Mr. Jarrett’s actual identity. Although Defendants refer to “Jeff Jarrett” as a fictional “character,” “Jeff Jarrett” is Mr. Jarrett’s real name. This different from a character such as “Hulk Hogan” whose real name is Terry Bollea.2 Mr. Jarrett’s right to control the use of his real identity is exactly what the Personal Rights Protection Act serves to protect, regardless of whether a trademark was assigned to Defendants for use in connection with certain sales of certain goods and services."

> Jarrett is also arguing that Anthem has never had exclusive rights to the usage of his name, pointing out that he wrestled for WWE well before his time in TNA/Impact, that he was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame last year and that he has appeared and competed for WWE since. Jarrett's attorneys noted that WWE have been utilizing his name in YouTube videos and on WWE programming as proof that Anthem/Impact do not have exclusive rights to the name and trademark.

> Jarrett is also arguing that Anthem's claim that they are utilizing his name on video as proof they are utilizing the trademark fails, noting, "As a preliminary matter, there is a disputed question as to whether such content actually falls within the goods and services identified in the registration. The content (namely, videos) is neither an actual wrestling exhibit nor performance; does not provide wrestling news and information via a global computer network;” and is not a “toy action figure or accessories therefore.” Accordingly, the video content does not fall within the scope of the registration’s goods and services."

> For those reasons, Jarrett's attorneys argued that Anthem's latest attempt to dismiss the lawsuit should be denied. With the attempted settlement discussions ending with no resolution, the case will continue to wind its way through the courts.
USApe - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:16:48 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6219171 Ignore Report Reply
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You now remember GFW
Ace Steel - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:28:10 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6219179 Ignore Report Reply
Double J can seriously fuuuuck offf with this stupid GFW stuff. GFW sucked and your shitty tapes suck too.
Hajime Ohara - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:41:54 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6219188 Ignore Report Reply
hey anon, are you interested in some gold?
WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:56:42 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.6219197 Ignore Report Reply

I mean on a personal level I'm always interested in gold, but if only I had a way to get gold that could also turn my SPENDING HABITS into SAVING HABITS while still getting paid in cash!
Doug Basham - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:42:41 EST ID:Qe3t6wW6 No.6219223 Ignore Report Reply
If I subscribe to f4w, can I download all the episodes in the archive and cancel after 1 month?
Homicide - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:53:40 EST ID:JSKdsWJp No.6219229 Ignore Report Reply
Yes I did this last time the playlist disappeared. But I used a weird app to covert the files in browser to mp3s on my phone.
Jimmy Jacobs - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:23:32 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6219249 Ignore Report Reply
I may subscribe in that case, there are some older episodes of B&V I want to get
Sara Del Rey - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:38:51 EST ID:xSwEo6lu No.6219256 Ignore Report Reply
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yes, but they have a fucking ass load of shit.
They have that already on XWT up to like 2015.
Vin Gerard - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:40:17 EST ID:xiKMXycW No.6219257 Ignore Report Reply
I don’t even remember if any talent did renew
Tim Donst - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:46:18 EST ID:3ayx20MU No.6219262 Ignore Report Reply
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>the weather could have been bad, but it was good
>12.99 please
Sara Del Rey - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:49:01 EST ID:xSwEo6lu No.6219267 Ignore Report Reply

I may be missing one or two, but those are the only credible wrestling journalist out there. That's it
Jimmy Jacobs - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:56:09 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6219269 Ignore Report Reply
Satin gets a lot of shit because, well, he's a shit stirring faggot. Bad enough where Jericho had to bury him multiple times.

Wow, a post as dumb as booker t is behind the gimmick.
Kenneth Omeggle - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:05:54 EST ID:7LNkx38S No.6219274 Ignore Report Reply
Sean Ross Sapp too.
Allison Danger - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:08:17 EST ID:ha/NejaS No.6219276 Ignore Report Reply
satin is fine... when he doesnt go into TMZ mode and come out looking like a dumbass
Nova - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:26:12 EST ID:Xg0Wg5/C No.6219282 Ignore Report Reply
>The Observer News Letter finally found the Private Playlist that /wooo/ and /asp/ was dumping all the illegal torrents of all the Bryan/Vinny/Craig Retro Shows, The Observer, Figure 4 and Filthy 4 Daily

Sunday was a dark day so whose gonna make the new playlist?
2 Tuff Tony - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:50:24 EST ID:mco52Dzj No.6219287 Ignore Report Reply
>spooky tall Latino
should have been Taco Taker
Peter Maivia - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:01:44 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6219289 Ignore Report Reply
You're missing Mike Johnson, the #2 guy behind Dave in terms of credibility.
Sugar Dunkerton - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:03:31 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6219291 Ignore Report Reply
More like the beanertaker
Tomoka Nakagawa - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:43:43 EST ID:L4YJHN0X No.6219427 Ignore Report Reply
Judas Devlin was a fucking great name
The Blue Meanie - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 03:51:16 EST ID:AnR4+abJ No.6219564 Ignore Report Reply
I want the people in this thread to answer this seriously

Has Dave Meltzer gotten so numb to WWE's decades worth of bullshit that he refuses to actually go hard on the product because he thinks there's no point. I'm so sick of him acting like every Raw was just a show. Raw is a bad product but Dave makes it sound like it's more boring then bad which is not true.

A boring show is NXT UK. A Boring show is 205 Live. Raw is a bad show. It feels like the only people working at the observer who're calling Raw a bad show are Bryan Alvarez and Lance Storm who're the only hyper critical people rightfully calling Raw what it is. What's it gonna take for Dave to not see that Raw has become WCW. Just because Russo isn't throwing the rule book in the trash compactor twice a week from Nitro to Thunder doesn't mean Raw is not at the same quality WCW was

You want a fucking time lapse. Raw is 99 WCW bad. Kevin Sullivan levels of dumpster fire
Mike Enos - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:08:08 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6219567 Ignore Report Reply
shut the fuck up >marky
Headbanger Trasher - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:19:58 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6219568 Ignore Report Reply
>Has Dave Meltzer gotten so numb to WWE's decades worth of bullshit that he refuses to actually go hard on the product because he thinks there's no point. I'm so sick of him acting like every Raw was just a show. Raw is a bad product but Dave makes it sound like it's more boring then bad which is not true.

Pretty much. Alvarez is also guilty of this. I think a few months ago he went on a rant against subscribers who said it was worse that WCW. They don't go hard because if they say it's worse than WCW that would imply they are spending time and their subscribers are spending money on recaps of the worst wrestling show ever.
Vader - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:26:42 EST ID:xDnB90wy No.6219569 Ignore Report Reply
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Any playlist yet?
The Blue Meanie - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:47:46 EST ID:AnR4+abJ No.6219575 Ignore Report Reply

Hopefully in the morning. The observer is my alarm clock
RationalRetard - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:30:55 EST ID:5Imy9+3d No.6219650 Ignore Report Reply
I can't believe the playlist lasted as long as it did.
Did Vinny ever review Wrestlemania?
Delirious - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:33:42 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6219651 Ignore Report Reply
A lot of people, myself included "watch" WWE via their recaps these days so its not that. People have even called into WOL saying as much and Bryan has noted a number of times their subscribers increase when a really horrible PPV is put on. I think its more their (justified) hateboner for Russo.

Every time they hear the comparison they think people are talking about Russo era. Some are but I think the majority are thinking along >>6219564 lines that it's '99 WCW bad. Just a jumbled mess of characters the audience has no idea who to cheer for.
Barry Windham - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:45:06 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6219659 Ignore Report Reply
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>Young also talked about when Triple H made him cry backstage. Young said he was told he couldn't use the Crossface Chicken Wing because it was a dangerous hold, only to find out it was being saved for Asuka.

>"It's unfortunate that someone didn't have my back because when I was having my last feud with The Miz, I was told I couldn't use the Crossface Chicken Wing because it was a dangerous hold. Legit," Young said. "I said I know what I'm doing, I'm not going to kill anyone. Fast forward and I found out the move was being saved for Asuka. The Miz pointed that out to me in the locker room weeks later and I was like 'I f*cking knew it!' It broke my heart. I've got pictures of him on my wall in my childhood room. It broke my heart. I cried like a baby backstage and he came over and was like 'Darren, why are you crying?'"
Faby Apache - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:49:19 EST ID:4h4IIY1g No.6219661 Ignore Report Reply
Darren, come on
Prince Devitt - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:54:24 EST ID:c1XNQb/6 No.6219662 Ignore Report Reply
Daffney - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:55:44 EST ID:D6kdXL/3 No.6219663 Ignore Report Reply
Would anyone actually think this was a bad thing for WWE to do?
Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:57:51 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6219664 Ignore Report Reply
no new playlist for a while.
but what you are looking for may still be in the hideout, which despite it's name is not all that hidden, it's not a "super sekrit club." how to get there is pretty easy and already explained in this thread.
Faby Apache - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:07:21 EST ID:4h4IIY1g No.6219667 Ignore Report Reply
In what way?
Brock Lesnar - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:14:53 EST ID:AllRx9GT No.6219671 Ignore Report Reply
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lol what a little bitch
Jamal - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:15:59 EST ID:IEQWWi/I No.6219672 Ignore Report Reply
Darren comes off as the most sensitive and unlikable dude whenever he gives interviews. I remember when he was offended that he wasn't invited to be in Balor's LGBT entrance at Wrestlemania despite not being remotely important to the company's history. He thinks just because he's a gay wrestler he should've been treated like a bigger deal.
Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:36:43 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6219681 Ignore Report Reply
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Sugar Dunkerton - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:54:50 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.6219683 Ignore Report Reply
>I've got pictures of him on my wall in my childhood room. It broke my heart.

The Great Sasuke - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:07:50 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6219686 Ignore Report Reply
FFS Darren, "It's all about pain and who's gonna make it". Not you, you crybaby bitch.
Peter Maivia - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:08:32 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6219687 Ignore Report Reply
It's bad that HHH is too big of a wimp to just come out and tell the truth to his workers.
Damien Demento - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:15:11 EST ID:UmBBfj1+ No.6219689 Ignore Report Reply
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*Bullies Gay People in your path*

Oh boy, can't wait for the SJW's to get a hold of this story. Darren Young is about to be very famous and probably re-hired by WWE to keep him quiet.
Stone Cold Steve Austin - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:27:37 EST ID:FCG7qXYl No.6219695 Ignore Report Reply

why is HHH too big of a pussy to tell him that they're saving the move for Asuka? why make shit up?
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:31:00 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6219696 Ignore Report Reply
carnies gotta carnie
Eric Bischoff - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:34:23 EST ID:HbZDzls0 No.6219701 Ignore Report Reply
what a bitch. no wonder he's gay.
Dino Bravo - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:56:17 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6219716 Ignore Report Reply
the wor experience
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:12:41 EST ID:GXHNtkkw No.6219721 Ignore Report Reply
wait, are we referring to Trips or La Cena Negra?
Xavier - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:26:26 EST ID:kNm/841R No.6219726 Ignore Report Reply
Hm, won’t work on iPhone.
Peter Maivia - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:31:57 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6219727 Ignore Report Reply
Xavier - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:44:17 EST ID:kNm/841R No.6219731 Ignore Report Reply
Found this on /asp/
Major Tanya - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:26:32 EST ID:kCVS6iB5 No.6219745 Ignore Report Reply
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Marc Mero - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:36:14 EST ID:dy5bnKju No.6219750 Ignore Report Reply
Xavier - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:37:58 EST ID:kNm/841R No.6219752 Ignore Report Reply
Works fine for me on my phone. Try clicking the download link, not the Dave experience link
Truth Martini - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:00:18 EST ID:nHR0Lv82 No.6219845 Ignore Report Reply
RAW Ratings
>8 pm - 2.76 million
>9 pm - 2.69 million
>10 pm - 2.54 million

>Overall - 2.67 million

Down from last week's 2.92 million.
Slightly up from the go home RAW (2.64 million).
Topped by NBA for the night.

Dr. Cube - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:31:53 EST ID:PXGCx5jx No.6219875 Ignore Report Reply
>alvarez isn't there to fucking bury THE VIKING EXPERIENCE
Tugboat - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:56:26 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6220211 Ignore Report Reply
He did a solo show instead just so he could do that. It wasn't a legendary rant or anything, it was more just an exhausted, despairing rundown of Raw.
Giant Bernard - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:44:07 EST ID:xDnB90wy No.6220231 Ignore Report Reply
Got a link?
Krazy K - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 03:52:56 EST ID:dy5bnKju No.6220290 Ignore Report Reply

you kids play nice now!
Jamilia Craft - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 04:55:32 EST ID:Xa7kTuH3 No.6220298 Ignore Report Reply
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Eric Young - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:38:45 EST ID:fGQsAqCS No.6220478 Ignore Report Reply
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Jimmy Rave - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:37:36 EST ID:3fBloh8p No.6220542 Ignore Report Reply
Why don't you stay on asp then
Teddy Long - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:40:14 EST ID:vC+VvUge No.6220545 Ignore Report Reply
Are you seriously complaining where he got an illegal download from?
Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:06:22 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6220555 Ignore Report Reply
while your assessment that it's silly to complain where you get stolen content from is technically correct
asp narcs out content they find on /wooo/ simply because it was posted on /wooo/. it really is that stupid and simple. So we don't have to be happy about resorting to asp for things.
Allison Danger - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:12:38 EST ID:kNm/841R No.6220556 Ignore Report Reply
Alright I’ll just not post it next time and y’all can wait for the fourth playlist.
Jervis Cottonbelly - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:16:02 EST ID:O9UNFXgQ No.6220557 Ignore Report Reply
Allison Danger - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:34:46 EST ID:kNm/841R No.6220566 Ignore Report Reply
Can’t believe you guys just keep console warring even when someone is giving you free shit. Total fucking nerds.
Damien 666 - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:36:05 EST ID:7gfAz06f No.6220567 Ignore Report Reply
Despite living in the most technologically advanced age known to man, humans are still primal and tribalistic as fuck. We're all still cavemen way down deep.
Dr. Cube - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:02:05 EST ID:48MhtoIF No.6220577 Ignore Report Reply
Evolution gave us a clock thats always winding down.
Shane Matthews - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:26:21 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.6220587 Ignore Report Reply
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Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch duuuuun daaa naaaa
Obariyon - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:55:02 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.6220617 Ignore Report Reply
Shane Strickland and Garza Jr. just signed

Sakura Emi - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:10:43 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6220689 Ignore Report Reply
per fightful:

>WWE has a Superstar Shakeup this week, but there could be a shakeup happening in Ring of Honor's offices as we speak.

>Fightful Select reported this week that there is some angling and shuffling going on as it pertains to Ring of Honor.

>Monster Factory's Danny Cage was cut from Ring of Honor after joining the company in early December. From what we're told he's still being paid by the company, and had a lot of ideas how to shift ROH and Future of Honor's production, which was met with heavy resistance. As for the split, we're told that ROH is still planning an event at Monster Factory this Spring, and Cage is on good terms with Delirious. Joey Mercury is taking over his role.

>Speaking of Joey Mercury, Fightful reported this week that he was instrumental in getting Sons of Savagery signed by the company, and has pushed for Maria Manic to come in as well. All of which are alumni from MCW, where he's served as a trainer.

>Mercury and Bully Ray are said to be gaining influence within Ring of Honor, while Delirious' (Hunter Johnston) creative input has decreased. Those that we spoke to expected this to accelerate as time moves on. It could be seen with Enzo and Cass, as well as Velvet Sky and Angelina Love being brought in. There were a few names on the NJPW side of things who told us they had no idea Enzo and Cass would be on the show at G1 Supercard.

>Those we spoke to in ROH say that there was some heat on any number of people who made the All In deal a reality, as the company ended up helping give crash courses to their upcoming competition for talent.

I feel like the shit with Enzo and Cass has Bully's fingerprints all over it. Muh "heat is heat"
Rizokahn - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:42:20 EST ID:hTSUcuhc No.6220700 Ignore Report Reply
That and anything Velvet Sky related were definitely Bully's call.

At least Mercury is using his influence to sign some newer promising talent than retreads.
David Hart Smith - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:47:05 EST ID:1x1xN/No No.6220701 Ignore Report Reply

Maria Manic is absolute garbage, so I guess she fits perfectly in with WOH.

Poor Mayu.
Sakura Emi - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:15:43 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6220713 Ignore Report Reply
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>Meltzer casually saying that ROH has no buzz on the latest WOR
It's just accepted now, isn't it?
Mitsuharu Misawa - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:16:55 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6220715 Ignore Report Reply
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Report: Daniel Bryan & Sheamus Dealing With Undisclosed Injuries
>Fans may have noticed that Daniel Bryan has not appeared on television since losing the WWE Title to Kofi Kingston at WrestleMania 35. According to PWInsider, Bryan was not at television this week and is currently dealing with an undisclosed injury. The report states that "the nature of the situation has been closely guarded."

>Furthermore, Sheamus is reportedly dealing with an undisclosed injury as well. Sheamus was noticeably absent from last night's SmackDown as Cesaro teamed with Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura with Sheamus nowhere to be found. Sheamus last wrestled on the Apr. 9 episode of SmackDown, teaming with Cesaro & Drew McIntyre against The New Day in a six-man tag team bout.

>There is no timetable for the return of either superstar.
Joey Ryan - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:26:08 EST ID:4hhHNdNo No.6220716 Ignore Report Reply
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>tfw Bryan is concussed & Sheamus's spine is fucked
Lizzy Valentine - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:31:26 EST ID:UmBBfj1+ No.6220717 Ignore Report Reply
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Jesus. Wrestlers are about as tough as tissue paper these days.
Jimmy Superfly Snuka - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:44:35 EST ID:7gfAz06f No.6220719 Ignore Report Reply
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>There is no timetable for the return of either superstar.
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:47:53 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6220721 Ignore Report Reply
pls not again daniel.
Naomi - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 23:04:35 EST ID:7kiEmjyM No.6220724 Ignore Report Reply
It's gotta be anal bleeding.
Ranjin Singh - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:34:25 EST ID:EvYXc0Fp No.6220759 Ignore Report Reply
>image of wrestler who was functionally retired by age 33 because his body couldn't handle wrestling
Irwin R. Schyster - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:13:49 EST ID:7gP4X5YH No.6220843 Ignore Report Reply
i had this dream where they gave shane strickland a soundcloud rapper gimmick but then he got like super over
Dakota Darsow - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:24:39 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6220846 Ignore Report Reply
That's a good gimmick for Lio Rush actually.

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